In my experience, a real Samsung device will have the model # as the first few characters of the baseband, am I right or wrong?
My question is about determining fakes: Will a fake device have a baseband set up to look like a real Samsung baseband or will the fake device always have a baseband that looks nothing like a Samsung version?
I saw this webpage about fakes appearing in Thailand: http://www.soyacincau.com/2014/04/2...d-in-bangkok-and-it-looks-like-the-real-deal/. The basband shown in the photos looks nothing like anything I've ever seen on a Samsung device. I was just wondering if that holds true for all fakes - basically, would checking the baseband be the absolute fool-proof way to determine a fake device?
I live in Vietnam and Samsung makes their phones here. I see mobile store buying parts (still the exact parts from official phones) from unofficial sources, put it together and copy the official imei of an official phone to cheat the customers. Then they put them in boxes with seal and papers look exactly like a new phone...Those Samsung phones (most popular is note2 s4 note3 s5) works like **** and often have China battery and other parts.
The stores often tell the customers that those phone is carried from abroad and sell it at a cheaper price. (I bought mine at Samsung showroom for 800$ and they sell theirs for 600$)
It's best to buy from certified retailers.
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i have just ordered a note3 but when i watched the videos of the phone booting up it says SM-N9000Q. I checked the sammobile but there is no firmware or no model like that. Is this only for Turkey like Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N8005?
In the other hand is this a bad or good thing to have N9000Q?
Does anyone know something about this model? what is the differences from N900?
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46218461#post46218461
only thing that i really want to know is shall i cancel my order and order a SM-N9000?
it depends... first of all what do you expect? n9000q has a sticker on the box stating it is aimed to use in several European countries but as far as we read it seems like they sell it only at Turkey. so probably this means we will get updates later then other models and probably they will stop updating device while others got their updates. we have n8005 and n7000 as an example (n8005 fits this situation more and i don't have n7100 so don't know what is going on about it).
i wish samsung will correct this in note 3 but this is just a wish and if they don't.... for most this will not be a problem because they will never know if there is an update that their model haven't received and for some it again will not be a problem because they will root and install custom roms. others will have to live with it or sell the phone early then they planned to.
just broke my old faithful s3 ,never bothered with the s4 ,so looking to buy an s5 , whats the main diffences to spot on the latest clone s5 as these are getting very good copies. are all clones still usb 2.0 or are there any usb3.0 clones available ?
is it possible just by checking the device firmware/software or are they now up to date with roms etc .
any advice would be appreciated.
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Most clones use the Mediatek SoC because they are cheap, apps like CPU-Z will show this under the hardware setting eg MT65XX (MT=MediaTek)
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The best way is to check if the fingerprint scanner works because it's highly unlikely a copy would have it.
Best weapon to prevent buying a fake device is only to do business when with a bill a purchase with corresponding Imei number when you meetup with a seller, btw if its seems too cheap it usualy is
gee2012 said:
Best weapon to prevent buying a fake device is only to do business when with a bill a purchase with corresponding Imei number when you meetup with a seller, btw if its seems too cheap it usualy is
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managed to get one with recipt payg phone unlocked mint condition for£260 gold,black root and firmware modding herei come ,cant get use to the new layout prefered the old settings system.
People still forge receipts to make phones look genuine so still check everything mentioned, because £260 is the perfect price for a copy to be just expensive enough to seem like a genuine bargain.
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in the market there there is some manufacturers of same model any quality difference and which one is better : made in korea ,made in vietnam , made in china , made by samsung also what is manufacturer of last one is it also made in korea please explain all.
FARSHOOD said:
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in the market there there is some manufacturers of same model any quality difference and which one is better : made in korea ,made in vietnam , made in china , made by samsung also what is manufacturer of last one is it also made in korea please explain all.
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lol.
I haven't heard or read the last one. All of samsung product is made by samsung, you won't find galaxy note 4 made by apple or sony. x.x
I believe that is their strategies to reduce shipping cost and import taxes in some country..
Later, you will also find made in indonesia because samsung has plan to make their factory in indonesia. But still don't know when that will happened and what they made in the factory, it can be their phone, tablet, tv, home appliances, etc.
ar216893 said:
lol.
I haven't heard or read the last one. All of samsung product is made by samsung, you won't find galaxy note 4 made by apple or sony. x.x
I believe that is their strategies to reduce shipping cost and import taxes in some country..
Later, you will also find made in indonesia because samsung has plan to make their factory in indonesia. But still don't know when that will happened and what they made in the factory, it can be their phone, tablet, tv, home appliances, etc.
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dear sir thank you for your reply my mean is any quality difference between all country assembling mobiles(cellphones) under licence of samsung if yes which country made is best excluding korea
FARSHOOD said:
dear sir thank you for your reply my mean is any quality difference between all country assembling mobiles(cellphones) under licence of samsung if yes which country made is best excluding korea
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I can't tell you for sure, all samsung phone and tablet that comes to my country is made in vietnam, but it should be no difference if they have good quality controls.
But as far as I read here (for note 4 ,correct me if I'm wrong), device made in vietnam have better screen curvature so TG will fit easily, I only bought 1 TG and has no halo since day 1, not like most people over here that already bought many TG.
And I also never have to return my device like few peoples experienced over this forum, so maybe I'm just lucky, or device that made in vietnam has best quality control.
And that is my experience with my old s4, my dad note 3, my note 8.0 tablet, my gf s5, and my note 4. Never had hardware issue until now, and all of them is made in vietnam.
That's just my experience though, need confirmation and experience from people that get product made by samsung factories in other country.
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I need advice. I bought a Samsung S4 phone from a canadian merchant, but I doubt it's an original, but it's a not a cheap copy as I seen on web. It's a SGH-i337, from A&T. Samsung told me IMEI is genuine, but out of warranty.
In fact, everything inside seems true. I run test with CPU-Z (screenshot in link), tried an app Genuine Galaxy, many codes (like *#0#) are working. All of this said is genuine.
BUT, I couldn't find any serial number. The tag below the battery doesn't have samsung logo. And the brandname Samsung in not on front of the phone. And a detail, the black phone was sold with a white charger (pictures in the link)
Does someone within AT&T could take pictures of their phone so I can compared? As I'm in Canada, anyone have AT&T phone.
Should I worry or not?
All pictures are there (sorry for the cut link, I'm still at <10 posts) : dropbox DOT com /sh/t7gnwpsw1y4haom/AADgHOqcATFeB2TVzAzglnu1a?dl=0
Thanks
Mel
Pictures here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7gnwpsw1y4haom/AADgHOqcATFeB2TVzAzglnu1a?dl=0#
Sounds legit if it says sgh-i337 in about phone and it's running touch wiz I'm sure it's genuine it's pretty hard to make a clone of touch wiz and port it to unsupported hardware
It certainly appears to be authentic, despite the odd sticker. Perhaps at some point in it's life the screen/frame were replaced and an aftermarket sticker was generated.
I have in my possession a clone phone and you can spot the differences when you compare it with your photos. I think you are safe.
Hallo.
Just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from an e-Bay trader. I think the dealer has a Chinese seat but the phone was shipped from England.
Please have a look at the photos. I also have a box of the original Polish version. It is in both cases the Exynos variant: SM-N910C.
The boxes are slightly different in the color of the printing: Polish ink is slightly darker than the new variant. On the back side of the package the dubious box has "WiFi Certified" instead of "HD Voice", which is labeled on the Polish box. Everything else is equal.
If the device is nominally a SM-N910C model, however it is sold for the Arabic market, can I assume that this device still is technically strictly equivalent to the variant for the European market never the less? Could it be that different or inferior components are used for different Markets? Does Samsung use different tolerances for different markets? Or is the device absolutely identical to the European variant?
Is there a way to check whether this device is an original Samsung Note 4 without opening the box?
Thanks for the hints!
You could watch a youtube video over the fake differences with the clones.
Just boot into download mood
take a look here,and fill out the IMEI nr
https://support-ca.samsung.com/secaew/consumer/ca/findwarranty/warrantyinfo
In which country is the Note 4 being produced? I know that the Polish Variant of the Model SM-N910C is produced in Vietnam. My Model is produced in China however. So is it a fake or is the Note 4 being produced in both countries? How does the SM-N910C from Vietnam differ from the SM-N910C from China? Are they technicaly identical? Is one country better" than the other? Are there different parts and tolerances being used?
Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
If the s-pen works while hovering above the screen then it's a real note 4.
If you turn it on, you will see right away the on the screen.
Replicas will never have SAMOLEDs and you will see right away the difference in colors and they are so obvious.
The Polish C-version, which is manufactured in Vietnam and no doubt original, has an internal memory of 24,65GB (according to Kies and Windows). The new Arabic C-version, which has been manufactured in China, has an internal memory of 24,57GB (again, according to Kies and Windows). Could this be a sign for a fake phone or are such minor differences and fluctuations normal and due to the manufactoring process?
CPU Z and Phone Info show absolutely identical hardware, only the internal memory is slightly smaller in the China-manufactured device. The China-version is slightly faster in the Antutu and Geekbench benchmarks however. So, can I now finally and definitly be SURE that the nev, China-made Note 4 is an original, genuine Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910C and is definitly NOT a fake ?
Hmm .. Could all you Note 4 owners write here which version you have, where it was manufactured and how big the internal memory is.
Many many thanks!
P.s.: Where is the N910F (Snapdragon-Version) being produced?
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Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
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Yes, just instal free "Phone Info" from play store, we'll know it fake or not.
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
pimpl said:
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
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Told you....if it has SUPER AMOLED (PURE BLACKS)...and S-pen hovering works....then its deffo an original phone.