Database Users

Tethering limit?

Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
Edit: Summary of this Thread:
Kubernetes said:
I hit 10GB last month (don't ask; had to travel a lot and no free wifi access) but never experienced any throttling. I didn't go over by much, but I never got a message and a check on speedtest showed full throughput.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for you input, now we know for sure. So, the changes is from 10 GB no throttling to 5 GB with throttling.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

PaiPiePia said:
Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010

laristech said:
Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

PaiPiePia said:
Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?

skesseks said:
What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Carrier should be doing that in the first place. A recent FCC ruling made it mandatory for ATT to warn the customer when they are about to go over the limit.
I know I will never use the 10 GB (even though the thread title is tethering limit, I actually do not tether), but having something that I used to have (paying for), ripped out of my hands just like that just doesn't feel good.

We don't have a tethering limit, you can blame those that do tether excessively for the reduction in the limit

I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this

anthonys2r said:
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.

From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

PaiPiePia said:
It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)

ward360 said:
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..

I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
/vent

Its unlimited, just not full speed after 5gb.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant.

anthonys2r said:
It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, I hear you there, between my wifes phone and my phone we drop alot on mobile internet, and I do tether when needed, but I by no means abuse it, I use about 200 megs a month, through tmoble. I use anywhere from 5 to 60 gigs through my home internet, comcast caps you at 250 gigs a month.
Both companys are just trying to hold up the abusers, file sharing is a major issue, (if I hit anywhere over 10 gigs at home it is because of file sharing)
The abusers are the issue, when one person uses as much as 200 other users it becomes an issue.
I don't agree with it, but I can totally see why they do it. It won't affect 99.99% of user's. And the ones that it does are probably doing things they aren't supposed to.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't believe T-Mobile ever condoned the use of tethering on any of their devices.
anthonys2r said:
https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.

I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

TheAdictsPunk said:
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The call center reps are not qualified to make that distinction because of their lack of knowledge about the terms of agreement that you had to sign. They will tell you anything to make you happy, that is their job. This is not limited to T-Mobile of course. If you want to a definitive answer then just check your contract. It will state what restrictions there are for the data plan. I had to pull out the contract to make sure I followed the terms of agreement when I was messing with the firmware on a Clear modem they sent me so I could use it with my router and accidentally bricked the modem. I argued for 30 minutes with the rep for a new modem because she believed that messing with firmware for the modem constituted to abusive use of their devices without stating what is abusive use. She sounded pretty new to the job too.

frankwhitten said:
Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).

anthonys2r said:
Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nothing is stopping you or your family and friends from changing providers. That is why there is a free market, don't like on service provider go to the next and so on and so forth. I am not trying to cause an argument, but the old adage, you can't have one's cake and eat it too, applies here.

anthonys2r said:
I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
/vent
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are not doing much because (which I just learned the other day) that taxes on cell phone usage (monthly plan) where I live is stunning 18%.
FCC probably want your bill to be as high as possible.
Now, this thread isn't really about tethering, I started because of the fact that T-mobile is reducing the amount from 10 GB to 5 GB. I understand the fair use policy so an artificial cap is fine with me, but don't lower the cap for everyone just because a few people are tethering to their phone, scale those who use more and charge them more.
Now, you might ask: If you never needed more bandwidth, why do you care?
There's distinction of being punished because you did something wrong yourself and there's being punished as a group because of someone else' mistake. If I can have 10 GB a month, I want to keep it at 10 GB a month irregardless of whether I used it up, it's the principle that counts: I signed up knowing there's 10 GB a month of bandwidth and it needs to stay that way.

Hack evo for free hotspot

Ok so I just got the evo and I'm I. Love I had a moment b4 this and the the pre and the moment was very disappointing but the evo defined did the trick for Mr any way I'm very new to this whole rooting and hacking so I don't kno to much info or where to go get the info I was wonder if there there was a way I could use the hotspot feature without paying 29.99 so if anyone has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be great thanks in advance
Sent from my HTC EVO using XDA App

You would need to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
Please read up on it before you actually do it. Read the stickies at the top of each forum.

I did this literally 5 minutes ago. I have all the recent updates, and used unrevoked.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Download that .apk, install and boom.

Thanks for the info fmedina2, im new to the evo and everything 2, but since the link is currently not working. If I root my phone is there a possibility my phone could break or not work properly?

Sprint really doesn't bust users for pulling down hotspot quantity data-activity without paying the $30/mo Mobile Hotspot fee ?

I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.

IFMISM said:
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you root then apply Calkulin's usb tether fix, it will also make the native Hotspot app work. The fix disables authentification for both wired and wireless tethering.
Personally, I think that the way these phones hog data out of the box that it would be hard for sprint accuse you of unauthrized tethering unless you were doing something like using the phone as your primary internrt connection.

I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're absolutely right. I'm rooted, and CAN tether for free, but I pay the $29.99 anyway because it's the right thing to do. If you are using it for a lot of data (your main connection), you should pay for it.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you do ghetto things like that, you'll live just that kind of life.
good luck with that...

sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get ready for tiered data plans.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Hahaha you should pay for it? Why because they tell you too? Hey simple man root your phone thru unrevoked(easy as hell) then use pdanet or caulkins method or flash a rom that has it already integrated.
Hey your paying an extra $10 for extra bandwith so use it. Why pay $40 more now to stream on your phone..hey AT&T is 15 a month for dsl a year...so it may be right but it ain't smart..... Also I believe unlimited bandwith is for aircards and not for wireless. There is a thread discussing that. At the end of the day too each his own....
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

P.S. I don't abuse or really use tethering but I don't see the problem. I don't use 90% of the internet based stuff on my phone but I pay the $10 and don't complain...
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth[/url].
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
david279 said:
Get ready for tiered data plans.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason I came to Sprint is because they allow it, and every rep I've talked to knows this. What good is the ability to push unlimited data (which, please, most people here can burn 11GB in a day, let alone a month) if you're morally restricted to limiting yourself to the competition's tiers anyways? Sprint's angle against the Big Two has been unlimited data for a long time now, and they're not going to switch it. If they do, I can promise you that the reason is NOT some guy using PDANet and watching a lot of streaming football while he's at work.

My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Kcarpenter said:
My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right in that 2GB really is nothing nowadays. Sprint offers On Demand television, live sporting events, and devices with screens big enough to actually utilize these things; and when Netflix comes to Android, do they really think users will stay within 2-5GB?
Even without Netflix or tethering, Evo can burn through caps like noone's business on push alone. The phone was built and marketed as a multimedia powerhouse - stream HD, refresh your FriendStream every 15 minutes, push the news, get your email, upload huge photos from your 8MP cam, all within a few swipes.
It makes sense for Sprint to cap the non-premium data users, and just use that as an incentive to make $10/mo from that many more customers. But seriously, companies really should start focusing on making the network's capacities better - not limiting the consumer.

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second that!!

We aren't losing unlimited bandwidth. We pay extra for not having 4G in our areas aka a 'richer data experience'.
This is that richer data experience. Tether it up.

Verizon Throttling Speeds

Did anyone else read the article on engadget about Verizon throttling data speeds. Apparently this is effective immediately.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

yup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
Although I haven't tried this since I'm using a theme. Also this only applies to the top 5% of bandwidth users right? Anyone know that approximate number? I'm at around 2-3gigs a month which doesn't seem all that excessive.

coltronathon said:
I'm at around 2-3gigs a month which doesn't seem all that excessive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
??!?!??!?!!
I've been averaging 100 to 150 megs per month max, but then again, I'm almost never away from a WiFi network.

This was covered on our local news. They said the throttling only applies to NEW contracts (ie.iPhone), and not preexisting customers. Hopefully that is the case.

I really don't like how Verizon keeps screwing over the consumer more and more recently.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

I have experience with it at work. It says they "can". I would imagine if it doesn't look like you're running a server farm from your rooted wifi tethering droid they're goona leave you be. I mean do you really need to download the latest justin beiber video while you're driving to work?

iTz Nicholas72 said:
I really don't like how Verizon keeps screwing over the consumer more and more recently.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They throttle starting at 10 gigs. You can't really blame them since we all root and tether for free rather than paying to use the bandwidth. Its a simple choice really. Root and get throttled after 10 gigs for free or pay $20 for 2 gigs and $20 per gig after that.

iTz Nicholas72 said:
I really don't like how Verizon keeps screwing over the consumer more and more recently.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How are they screwing over the customer? I'd be willing to bet the people this is going to apply to are those that are breaching their contract and tethering with their phones as I see no way you could ever get over 5GB of data usage otherwise. There are people here reporting consistently going over that. If you don't like proper network management, I'm sure AT&T will be looking for new customers next week...
This is just proper network management and doing this will ensure that all users get more consistent speeds. Also, no data throttle hack you do to your phone is going to by-pass it either IMO as this is all going to be done on the network side.

Monthly data usage

How many did you use?
The past 3 months I have an average of 22 gigs per month used on my Rogers bill. I got a promotional 3 months of unlimited data.
To test how unlimited it really was I stopped using my laptop and only used my Atrix for EVERYTHING! Having tha lapdock made that easy. Torrents, videos, browsing, streaming online radio. Anything that could use data.
According to 2 reps at Rogers its the most they have ever seen. Makes me proud! haha

i'm sure your fellow rogers customers would like to graciously thank you for HOGGING bandwidth just because you can. congratulations.

That's not TOO much...Last month I used about 15 GB on my Atrix, only tethered a few times when necessary plus my normal usage. I've heard of some ridiculous people, however, that have managed to use 60+ GB of data in a month. AT&T promptly told him to stop using that much or else he would be cut off completely.

This its the first month I've broken 500 MB....usually around 350. 22GB...damn.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

I've yet to go above 50mb/month. Partially because there's wifi most of the places I go, and partially because I use Opera Mini with images set to low quality when there's not. I wouldn't even have a data plan if AT&T allowed me to go without one.
You grandfather'ed unlimited users are lucky. I know I'm always going to be terrified of using my phone away from wifi no matter what my cap is.

And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.

10 gb last month...about to hit another 10 his month. No tethering.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

rusreid said:
And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're not an asshole if you use 15 gigs the legit way man.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk

rusreid said:
And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, it certainly isn't because they want to do as little as possible to improve their infrastructure to support such amounts of data properly.
Not to be rude, but there's a lot more to the situation than what the carriers are trying to make us think of it. If theres something to be blamed, its the lack of any real competition, not users using a network in completely expected (on a consumer level) ways. If their contract says unlimited, then they get unlimited. End of discussion.

Back when I had T-Mobile with unlimited data plan I used to push just how far I could go with it. I would tether and download huge files constantly. They didn't seem to care, but then again, their speeds don't match what im getting now on at&t
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App

Jotokun said:
Yeah, it certainly isn't because they want to do as little as possible to improve their infrastructure to support such amounts of data properly.
Not to be rude, but there's a lot more to the situation than what the carriers are trying to make us think of it. If theres something to be blamed, its the lack of any real competition, not users using a network in completely expected (on a consumer level) ways. If their contract says unlimited, then they get unlimited. End of discussion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can I buy you beer?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

Hell, i thought that using 1.5 gigs was a lot...

mobile data is now crack for the masses and the carriers are holding all the crack. the biggest and smallest crack dealers are trying to merge. just what gsm needs in america. a global standard with no competition. if i wasn't getting a decent discount because of my employer i probably wouldn't have data, and they did away with discounts on text, and are fixing to give us the option of all or nothing. and then they whine about we're not making enough profit, say their infrastructure is great and fast, shove 3g+ down our throats as 4g and the guys in red are considering putting android on the backburner for apples.

I use 2gigs a month only because its my cap... and I have to force myself to be conservative at times... wish I had unlimited data. Back when I was with Verizon I'd do about 10gigs a month
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

Glad to know I won't be in the top 5% of unlimited users to get throttled! =)
~Sent from My Unlocked, Rooted, Shady Blued, and Pi-Crusted Atrix 4G~

Never say... never...
I never used it
Sorry

Clienterror said:
You're not an asshole if you use 15 gigs the legit way man.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah but the guy saying he used 22gb was also downloading torrents! And just pushing it. I understand that it is unlimited data but shouldn't abuse it because of it. Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate it that carriers are limiting the data. But it really is people like this that drove them to that. I mean can you imagine if the other 95% of data subscribers also tried using 22gb or even the 15gb stated? I doubt any wireless network in the world can maintain stability under such demands.

The most I've done was 10 gigs. No tethering.. it was all streaming music with rhapsody and movies with subsonic. I can see doing 20 gb if I streamed movies all the time. I currently average about 4 now
Sent from my NINJATRIX

I for one do not mind in the slightest when users push the boundary of practical usage. If every att data subscriber stayed clear within the norm of data usage, and no one strayed beyond it, where is the motive for a carrier to expand or increase the network capability, or offer larger data plans or better rates? (hypothetically, of course.) I'm a 500mb per month user myself, however if I could hit such usage without the autonomous fees, I certainly would. I respect the heavy user! Besides, a handful of people using such data amounts are not affecting the majority of 98,000,000 MILLION USERS.

Life much???
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

[How To] Save your unlimited data plan after tethering notice

I was using about 70-90 Gb data a month for the past few months, mostly because of tethering. I recieved the first warning, and then yesterday the final notice stating i WOULD be changed to 45$ 4Gb tethering plan next bill. Well i spent hours and hours calling back different times with different point. most being legality, and privacy issues. Nothing worked, UNTIL i got a very nice man who was describing tethering to me and how watching netflix on ur phone then attaching hdmi is still condisdered tethering. I told him i have CM7 and that it was a non-stock os, and that all i have been doing is watching netflix or hulu on my tv via the hdmi port and mirroring. he extended my cut off date to right after the conversation, so that as long as i did not tether after that (connect my phone to my tv, lamo!) i would no longer be switched. he gave me a third chance and i am very thankfull. if you do not get the response u want to hear, try, try again..generally with a different rep, but they HAVE HAVE HAVE to be in the tethering watch dept. i believe he said its called "EOS" dept. I also filled a complaint with the better business bureau, but im positive just a bluff would do the trick.
just remember, make sure you are speaking to the right department before you get all down and dirty into why you believe this is unjust, and use the TV excuse and dont ever tether again unless u wanna loose to AT&T
This ****s real, one you get your first notice, be smart, unlike me and stop effing tethering...unless u r on a tiered data plan....then tether away amigo

I have been using 40gb up to 70gb since i got my unlimited data back 2-3 months ago. Never gotten an notice. Been doing the same thing as you, plus using pdanet to use my computer and torrents.

Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!

CaelanT said:
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?

mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

I am happy when I see threads like this. People complain about AT&T having ****ty service, but it is out of their control when people are hogging 50-100 GB over a wireless connection. Wireless is shared bandwidth, unlike a wired connection, so the network performs worse for other users when somebody it using massive bandwidth.
Unlimited doesn't give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.

mandrsn1 said:
Unlimited does give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i'm assuming you meant DOESN'T give you the right...?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

People certainly have the right to complain about AT&Ts new practices but 40-90 gb is overkill. Its hard to sympathize with you guys. I got the notice and I've only used 5gb of data.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya well 4G isn't 4G with them either. The point is that everybody else has to suffer by paying more, AND dealing with a more congested network.
Tethering was really meant for emergency purposes, or when the local coffee shop is closed and you need to be online browsing/checking email for a "short period of time"...
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium

Just saying..
ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..

jpinoy said:
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the point people are making. I have unlimited also, but I don't abuse it by using my cell phone data plan as I do my high speed internet at home. Tethering isn't the issue, ludicrously high data usage is because it affects every user.

jpinoy said:
Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ha. yeah you're right in that aspecto. i was just trying to point out the blatant lack of consumer responsibility.
i, too, have unlimited data. i stream music, netflix, google navigation.
and i don't hit 5gb a month. I don't even typically hit 2GB. it's the people who constantly abuse the unlimited data plan so that are causing AT&T to imposed stricter and stricter regulations on their customers. Granted, there's greed thrown in there as well. but until every single one of us customers isn't doing anything irresponsible, then collectively we look like ignorant customers. i'd understand if all customers used 5gb and AT&T was behaving as they are now, then I, too, would be pissed.
your car tops out at 140mph. you don't drive it that fast all the time out of courtesy to others on the road and you just knowing you shouldn't. you can. but you shouldn't.

ifalldownalot said:
..... you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to burst your bubble about no data cap on home internet. I was issued a Notice that I exceeded my data usage cap with Cox Communications last month in San Diego (premier 25mbs/sec plan). I have 3 TVs all hooked up to either pandora, Netflix, Hulu +, or Playstation Network. (Normal computer web surfing as well).
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium

ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

kyevey said:
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

mac208x said:
Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB cap.
---------- Post added at 07:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:31 AM ----------
mac208x said:
I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a privacy issue when the data usage is provided by them. You expect them not to know how much data you use? Also, if you are referring to tethering, they don't have to do anything but look at the information you actually agree to providing them to determine packet usage. Without packet usage you can have no data, and TTL (Time To Live) is a timestamp embedded in all data. When you use their service you freely agree to them knowing this in order to provide said service, and thus give them the authority to see what you are doing regarding packet hops.

And I thought I was an ass just for using 6GB. OP, you're ruining it for all of us. But that's bull crap that AT&T considers mirroring and the like "tethering." Is it also considered tethering to use Google Music with your car?

CaelanT said:
Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

mac208x said:
if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get better internet then.

I got the notice using my 5 GB a month tethering. To heck with AT&T! That being said, some of you guys are clearly abusing the system and deserve the consequences!
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium