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Samsung has a great tablet but it is rapidly falling behind others in the updates.
And the BS about only rolling in certain markets to alienate customers.
Who does that?
Who in their right mind thinks that is a great idea?
So everywhere else your paying customers don't get the update they deserve.
Also we still don't have touchwiz, but Samsung is rolling out updates to certain people wtf? Some got Touchwiz, some got Google Movies, mine shows jack / nada / zilch.
Honestly, I don't know what Samsung's logic is for all this but it just sucks.
Stop whining.
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Samsung has a great tablet but it is rapidly falling behind others in the updates.
And the BS about only rolling in certain markets to alienate customers.
Who does that?
Who in their right mind thinks that is a great idea?
So everywhere else your paying customers don't get the update they deserve.
Also we still don't have touchwiz, but Samsung is rolling out updates to certain people wtf? Some got Touchwiz, some got Google Movies, mine shows jack / nada / zilch.
Honestly, I don't know what Samsung's logic is for all this but it just sucks.
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I only see Xoom and TF having HC 3.2 so far. Everybody else is still on 3.1.
It just came out...geez cry me a river...return and get a bulky tab with crappy screen....u sound like those guys on vibrant forum...go pout somewhere else! And most of us are running touchwiz...spend less time complaining about the best tab out and learn to flash.
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take it back and go get yourself an Ipad then
You sir need an I pad..
And you still got a GT 10.1 because...?
i do totally agree with you about Samsung really, really sucking it in the update department. The problem with Samsung is they build really awesome and powerful devices but they just don't build the software to match up with them. That is why we have XDA. Dude you can run touchwhiz and you can update. Just give it some time and you will see some better things on here that Samsung can't even come close to touching. This is a brand new tab and only a few weeks old. Give everyone a chance to pick one up and then this forum is going to blow up.
OP Samsung is a hardware company, google is the one who developed android. Because android does not belongs to Samsung thats why samsung cant do anything about updates and stuff. You can see Apple's updates moves fast because they are both hardware and software manufacturer so they can do fast updates they have one device to fix it. Google has so many devices to take care of and so many regions to consider. So it will take more time than usual. As you can see on samsung website that they uploaded the new drivers for pc and mac which was fast update because that update was in their hand. Samsung has nothing to blame about update if you want to blame then blame google.
Once ics comes out and the source is released there won't be a problem.
you are right about google
But the hardware vendors are responsible for the updates.
So it is Samsung.
Google has no idea how they are going to enforce update policy and there is no guarantee Samsung will even upgrade the 10.1.
i don't understand way people complain about updates. If it is that important root and flash.
A little game I play with fellow android users is ask them what version are they running most don't know or even know how to look.
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A little game I play with fellow android users is ask them what version are they running most don't know or even know how to look.
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I bet most of them would be able to tell you what features are buggy on their device though
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i don't understand way people complain about updates. If it is that important root and flash.
A little game I play with fellow android users is ask them what version are they running most don't know or even know how to look.
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What don't you understand? That I am a tech savy individual but want to have the most up-to-date software on my device in a timely time-frame? Or that I DO NOT want to Root or Flash my Tablet? Be serious. Your telling him to basically get a iPad because they offer updates across the board. That's not a good thing for Android.
DO NOT WANT TO ROOT OR FLASH !!?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON XDA THEN ?!! LOLZ
you guys are funny to post these complains here, if you want something official ?
go on Samsung's website/facebook or just send them a bunch of hate mail.
jeeez
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OP Samsung is a hardware company, google is the one who developed android. Because android does not belongs to Samsung thats why samsung cant do anything about updates and stuff. You can see Apple's updates moves fast because they are both hardware and software manufacturer so they can do fast updates they have one device to fix it. Google has so many devices to take care of and so many regions to consider. So it will take more time than usual. As you can see on samsung website that they uploaded the new drivers for pc and mac which was fast update because that update was in their hand. Samsung has nothing to blame about update if you want to blame then blame google.
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Actually 8. 2 iPhone's, 2 iPod Touches, 4 iPad's. #justsayin
Android is to college as the iPad is to high school. It's more work but the rewards are greater.
There are plenty of people happy with the iPad. Personally, I'm not going to settle for a device that my grandmother can use.
I'll never understand why people are so hell bent on having the latest upgrade of the OS on the devices they use. It's an over the top emotional quest for some.
The Galaxy Tab is a tool, a means to the end. It's not the end itself.
These are the same people that get a new car every two years because their car looks dated. It's a status thing that makes no sense.
If you can run the apps you need on the Galaxy Tab then it matters not what version Android is installed.
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I'll never understand why people are so hell bent on having the latest upgrade of the OS on the devices they use. It's an over the top emotional quest for some.
The Galaxy Tab is a tool, a means to the end. It's not the end itself.
These are the same people that get a new car every two years because their car looks dated. It's a status thing that makes no sense.
If you can run the apps you need on the Galaxy Tab then it matters not what version Android is installed.
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I'm sure that's the case for some and I agree with some of what you say, but I can say for me, however, that it is the allure of the promise of improved functionality. Anything that makes my device harder, better, faster, stronger is all right by me. Of course, roms can do that too, but some prefer "official" whether the reason is snobbery, stock OCD, timidness, what have you.
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I'm sure that's the case for some and I agree with some of what you say, but I can say for me, however, that it is the allure of the promise of improved functionality. Anything that makes my device harder, better, faster, stronger is all right by me. Of course, roms can do that too, but some prefer "official" whether the reason is snobbery, stock OCD, timidness, what have you.
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I look outside my office and see 10 cubicles, all with PCs running Windows XP. It's stable and runs like a work horse. And, you know what? They get their job done every day and go home at the end of the week with a paycheck. Never once have they asked for Windows 7.
I simply can't imagine what the next version of Android, or Touchwiz, will do for the average user to make it worth venting about on a public forum simply because they didn't get it NOW.
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
i hope i wont get decent scratches on my gorilla glas :O
but u should be always know that samsung isnt the fastest in updating phones
when getting my galaxy s1 i got the update after 6 months promising that the update will come blabla..
i wont rely on samsungsupport anymore cous we have great developers bringing out better roms then samsung ever can!!
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Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Totally agree with you...but about the call recording issue try to flash non stock rom...
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Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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You must understand that its not just Samsung that controls the roll out of the updates, they have to coordinate with operators around the world to roll out any updates because of so much operator specific **** that comes along with the phones.
Yes, Samsung can do better but name one OEM who has done better? HTC? Sony (Ericsson)? Motorola? Its all the same in Android club, sir. Only if you have a Google AOSP phone, you can rely on fast updates.
Begs a question- All competing platforms are calculated and reserved with updates- Why does Google has to release one major
OS release every 6 months? Why can't they have consolidated single annual update cycles?
Anyway, you are at XDA- the motherlode! Why do you wait for official updates when there are several talented devs bringing you top notch releases before OEMs do. Just root it and forget it!
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Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.we all agree
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it. never buy something for what it might become
Having an outdated OS sucks,95% of android devices outthere actually run GB I wouldn't call tht outdated or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.Samsung doesn't give credit so i guess you'll stay with your old phone
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.it seems to bother you if not why inform the world
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Those are all beta, so not perfect
Ics makes a few tweaks thats all not end of the world so what we have to wait im sorry but the phones is excellent regardless its not like ics will make this phone earth shattingly better it will make stuff all difference in the long run.
I cant wait until they release ics. Because i promise you this we will see this type of thread disappear to be replaced with. "why did samsung release this when it has bugs" or "when do we expect jelly bean" or " "Now we have ics do you think samsung will abandon the note with jellybean"
Im sorry to be negative but the note forum has jsut turned into a whinging forum.
Maybe mods could set up a vent your rant thread as not to over inflate this forum any more than it is
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What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
The majority of users are not the ones that frequent XDA. The majority of users
just use the phone as a phone, email & internet device.
The "1%ers" try to squeeze every little bit out of it.
I use around 2400 minutes a month on the phone, 2-300 text messages & around 100-200 emails. No games, no huge amount of data. Maybe 1-2 gig per month.
Personally, I'm holding off on ICS until it's been "official" for a few weeks.
GB is tweaked to the point, at least on my device, that it is fast & stable.
You know ICS will need a few revisions before it is really as stable as GB.
If it wasn't for the "1%ers", I doubt these devices would be as good as they are, but, for the majority of users, I just don't see ICS being that big of a deal.
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Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
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sorry I forgot to thank you for pointing out that "Samsung doesn't give credit". Did someone say smart-ass?
peace
OMG not again... just install a custom rom and enjoy ICS. There are a few that are quite stable with S Memo working....
More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!
Yet another "fkn samsung where's my update" thread... can't you people just wait a month more ? It's just a software update, it's not like your phone is useless without ICS...
Samsung said you will get ICS and you will, Gorilla said the glass is scratch resistant and it is.
So...You are waiting for ICS and you have discovered scratch resistant is not the same as scratch proof.
You seriously need to lighten up.. its a phone dude, not life and death
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Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
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Maybe not flawless, but at least i'm happy with what i bought in december .
So maybe ICS will make it better or maybe not. Maybe tomorrow or
maybe June 30, no need to whine over a top class phone
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What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
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Support for Android 3.x and 4.x apps. DriveMount really cool thing. With DosBox Turbo you can play DOS games with USB or Bluetooth mouse at ICS. And many more 3.x and 4.x great apps...
New many awesome settings, like "Hovering pen icon". It's amazingly cool helping feature, I really like it! Of cause other functions like "Force GPU rendering" and other from Android 4 also very helpful. Windows and transition animation scale settings will make a pleasant view for menus and other animations...
Also ICS is incredibly smooth!
I hope someone will fix Tablet mode for samsung stock ICS roms. AOSP good, but it kills many Note features, like stock camera, hovering pen icon, s planner, s memo and other samsung good things...
you know what? I take it back. both the hostile replies against friedje and the whining about not having ICS.
I was just in a mood to express my opinion after logging in every few weeks to check for an update.
all the best everyone!
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More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.
hey, chill...
dont you see the OP man'd up and apologised?.. he deserves props for that, not an ongoing diatribe.
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.
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Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.
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Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.
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It's still there, but it's nowhere near as bad.
I feel like the biggest reason we haven't seen the update is simply incorporating the driver's for the S-Pen and it's related things. Also the Galaxy Note runs at a unique resolution compared to everything else so that will cause some differences. If you've used any of the leaks they're pretty close, but they're still far from what I would consider something that should be released for everyone. I went back to CheckRom for my Note and for GB it runs really good. I was using CM9 which ran great, but I missed having the SPen and related apps as that was part of the reason I got the note. I would love ICS to be released right now, but even with GB the Note is still by far the best phone I've used. I love using my Note with Gingebread and Touchwiz more than using my Galaxy Nexus with 4.0.4
I'm trying to get a date for the KitKat update, has anyone heard anything? I'm so on the fence about this device.
Hi,
We'll update with an ETA once we're a bit further through with development.
Very glad to hear that there is development on building out a Kit Kat update.
It's a console, i don't think you really need kitkat..
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It's a console, i don't think you really need kitkat..
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It's an android device. KitKat contains bug fixes, scaling optimizations, new ui features, bluetooth 4.0, among many other things. You definitely want the latest version of your OS.
Come on brah.
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It's an android device. KitKat contains bug fixes, scaling optimizations, new ui features, bluetooth 4.0, among many other things. You definitely want the latest version of your OS.
Come on brah.
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Also, in KitKat fullscreen apps can hide the navigation buttons.
Okay, it is now February 3rd.
Where is GameStream and KitKat?!
I'm ready to buy it, but I need these 2 things. And all I'm hearing are "it's coming soon! "
Bah.
I'm getting antsy for it as well. I'm not rooting until after KK comes...just to avoid any unnecessary hassle. The more I use it, the more I enjoy it. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you went ahead and got one.
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I'm getting antsy for it as well. I'm not rooting until after KK comes...just to avoid any unnecessary hassle. The more I use it, the more I enjoy it. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you went ahead and got one.
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I'd love to get one. But not for $300.
Weren't you going to take Pleiades up on her $170 offer? For that price it's a steal.
As I've previously indicated, we'll give a more concrete ETA on KitKat and Gamestream once we're closer to their release.
Haha, yep at that price I'll get it for sure.
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Haha, yep at that price I'll get it for sure.
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How long does it really take to implement KitKat though? It's an upgrade to the OS. What are the barriers right now?
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How long does it really take to implement KitKat though? It's an upgrade to the OS. What are the barriers right now?
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:laugh: jjprichards, have a break, have a kitkat
Seriously, you not motivating them to finish it faster with your constant asking about kitkat.
KitKat is sufficiently different to not be considered "just an upgrade" - there's some major changes to the OS going on in there.
Plus, we can't just build it and release it - with an Android device there are so many variables that need testing and retesting; then, once we're happy it has to go to Google for certification... Basically a quick turnaround is not something you're looking at here!
I dont want to bash mad catz cause their a hardware company not software and i believe they had the best intentions at heart from the start, but would it not make more sense to just bite the bullet and admit this has been a massive flop and give out 30 units to the elite development teams that are well renowned on xda and just let them sort the console out. Pretty sure they could make this devise epic in a matter of days rather than us having to wait until 2042 until any kind of releases are available which will probably be totally underwhelming
at least that way you might shift a few more units once its actually up and running correctly.
I remember when i got my jxds7300, it was a bag of crap pretty much like the mojos current state cause of the software being so poor, a few devises went to some decent devs and the source code accidently got leaked. litteraly within a day we had 2 custom roms with major major improvement virtually all bugs were fixed, compatability went up ten fold, a built to purpose key mapper for the devise and loads of cool tweeks became available, along with cwm.
i know jxds chinese and dont play by the rules but if you cant beet'em join'em. Its not mad catz fault if the source codes accidently leaked onto the web
But seriously look through every devise on xda and theirs so many cool tweeks and projects going on for virtually every devise made. Then you get to the m.o.j.o and its almost like its considered the total outcast no one wants to touch with a 10ft pole even the 3rd party charged with the android build dont appear to want to go near this console. they might be doing something but 6 months is a hell of a long time in the world of android for nothing at all which would suggest its pretty much been given up on.
Also it didnt do any harm for me, but isnt using a male to male usb to root kinda a dodgy way of us having to make this thing work? if their both usb males surely powers being sent both ways through the cable creating the potential to fry both the mojo and computer under the right circumstances. or am i being dumb again not an expert on electricity. I mean theirs a fing sd card slot. hows their not a built in bootlader that accesses the micro sd slot thats totally insane and asking for trouble
Soz if this comes across as a rant which it kinda is, but everything around the mojo seems a complete farse looking in from the outside so far. which is a massive massive shame as it had the potential for such great things. With out the xda devs on board this thing will always be mediocre
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Soz if this comes across as a rant which it kinda is, but everything around the mojo seems a complete farse looking in from the outside so far. which is a massive massive shame as it had the potential for such great things. With out the xda devs on board this thing will always be mediocre
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:highfive:
I heard about it pre-launch and thought it was cool, had forgotten about it until recently, but IMO this is no where near the price point to where people will pick it up, while this is worlds better than ouya, even ouya is still overpriced at 100 bucks when you have major competitors like amazon fire tv. the mojo has teh specs and some other perks but at 200 bucks it just makes far more sense to buy the much more supported fire tv and use controllers on that.
We don't care what the box looks like and what's in it. Also we've seen plenty of Lollipop walk-though videos, we don't need another one.
Here's what we DO care about:
A good description of the color, especially the midnight blue model
What the backing material feels like. References to other materials would be helpful
For god sakes, play a youtube video or music so you can report back on how the FF speakers perform. Maybe a comparision to HTC's boom sound?
Please USE the camera in your videos so we can see how fast the autofocus and shooter is.
That is all. End of rant
There is a very tight double embargo on the Nexus 6. A number of sites came out with unboxing and 'hands on' in which they were not allowed to show any of the things you mentioned. The actual reviews will come soon when the 2nd embargo lifts.
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There is a very tight double embargo on the Nexus 6. A number of sites came out with unboxing and 'hands on' in which they were not allowed to show any of the things you mentioned. The actual reviews will come soon when the 2nd embargo lifts.
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Did not know this! Have been wondering why so many hands on, but no reviews.
I guess that makes sense especially if there's OTA firmware coming over the next few weeks to address last minute issues.
Yeah, was listening to the android central podcast and Phil Nickinson said they have an embargo with the N6 and there are thing he can't say or discuss right now.
I'll have to echo ECrispy on this. Many of the reviewers couldn't even log into their google accounts from the device.
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Yeah, was listening to the android central podcast and Phil Nickinson said they have an embargo with the N6 and there are thing he can't say or discuss right now.
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I seriously don't understand the "embargo" on certain topics.
What, is discussing details about performance going to stop people from buying the device? Oh! That is right...you can't buy the device or even pre-order it until lord (Google) knows when. So Google is intentionally stopping people from buying their device AND stopping people from talking about it...for no reason whatsoever.
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I seriously don't understand the "embargo" on certain topics.
What, is discussing details about performance going to stop people from buying the device? Oh! That is right...you can't buy the device or even pre-order it until lord (Google) knows when. So Google is intentionally stopping people from buying their device AND stopping people from talking about it...for no reason whatsoever.
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Yeah i dont agree with it either and wang to see some full reviews instead of unboxing videos only, i mean the droid turbo is getting more hands on and feviews that the N6.
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Yeah i dont agree with it either and wang to see some full reviews instead of unboxing videos only, i mean the droid turbo is getting more hands on and feviews that the N6.
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It would be one thing if Google were making like Santa Claus and making an in-order-or-receipt list of pre-orders to fill, and 20,000 people could cancel if they didn't like the first impressions/reviews.
But when Google knowingly and actively prevents 90%+ of people from forking over money who are otherwise willing customers *and* embargoes actual reviews...it is just stupid.
The Verge was able to use the camera and talk about it, albeit briefly. I guess the rules same don't apply to everyone?
I noticed a flood of hands on impressions posted right when the N6 was available for pre-order so I assume the first embargo was lifted on Wed AM. Big question is - When is the 2nd embargo lifted??
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We don't care what the box looks like and what's in it. Also we've seen plenty of Lollipop walk-though videos, we don't need another one.
Here's what we DO care about:
A good description of the color, especially the midnight blue model
What the backing material feels like. References to other materials would be helpful
For god sakes, play a youtube video or music so you can report back on how the FF speakers perform. Maybe a comparision to HTC's boom sound?
Please USE the camera in your videos so we can see how fast the autofocus and shooter is.
That is all. End of rant
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1) not sure if color is the easiest thing to describe... since what might look good to one person might not look good to the person sitting next to them.
2) Pretty sure i've seen hands-on videos and write-ups that mention it having a soft-touch plastic back.... but then again, some say it's more of a slippery plastic... so who knows. Probably all depends on what they consider "soft-touch".
3) So... you want them to record a video of how dual front-facing speakers perform, with a camera that more than likely only has a single microphone to begin with? How would that help with trying to see how good it sounds? If anything, it'll sound WORSE than it would in person.
4) Again... another thing i'm pretty sure i've seen in a video... but can't seem to find right now.
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It would be one thing if Google were making like Santa Claus and making an in-order-or-receipt list of pre-orders to fill, and 20,000 people could cancel if they didn't like the first impressions/reviews.
But when Google knowingly and actively prevents 90%+ of people from forking over money who are otherwise willing customers *and* embargoes actual reviews...it is just stupid.
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This is my first time buying a nexus phone and so hyped about it by being introduced to aosp on my oneplus one, this nexus is what i wanted in a phone and though because it's a nexus that it would be more hyped up by google but they seem to think differently. Sstayed up all night and didnt get much work done the next moring trying to pre order but we all know how that went. I did however preorder with expansys as a backup. I have watched the unboxing videos some much just to get a fix until i can get it. Come on google take my damn money already.
elementaldragon said:
1) not sure if color is the easiest thing to describe... since what might look good to one person might not look good to the person sitting next to them.
2) Pretty sure i've seen hands-on videos and write-ups that mention it having a soft-touch plastic back.... but then again, some say it's more of a slippery plastic... so who knows. Probably all depends on what they consider "soft-touch".
3) So... you want them to record a video of how dual front-facing speakers perform, with a camera that more than likely only has a single microphone to begin with? How would that help with trying to see how good it sounds? If anything, it'll sound WORSE than it would in person.
4) Again... another thing i'm pretty sure i've seen in a video... but can't seem to find right now.
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1) Not looking for subjective reviews on the color, but rather a comparison to perhaps another smartphone with the same hue (if possible)
2) I remember reading reviews of the while N5 when it first launched. Several people compared the texture to that of the Mac keyboard which I found spot on.
3) Obviously we won't be able to hear the speakers from our perspective. Looking to get initial feedback (from the reviewer) on the volume and clarity of the speakers which are important to a lot of us. I find the speaker in the N5 to be lacking.
OP chill out. Google has chosen to give people phones to check out and get an overall feel of the device. Hardware is final, software is not. Hence the reason they dont want people throwing up reviews and knocking Lollipop with unpolished software. Obviously there will be a OTA pushed out the day before the Embargo is lifted. Then you will get more full reviews then you can shake your stick at. Patience!!
This needed a thread... Really?
Think you're getting confused with unboxing videos and review videos.
Two completely different types of videos.. hence the name
FYI - Android police just posted an initial impressions piece that addressed a lot of my questions. Kudos to them!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
2nd embargo lifted Nov. 12th? http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/
Skripka said:
I seriously don't understand the "embargo" on certain topics.
What, is discussing details about performance going to stop people from buying the device? Oh! That is right...you can't buy the device or even pre-order it until lord (Google) knows when. So Google is intentionally stopping people from buying their device AND stopping people from talking about it...for no reason whatsoever.
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The fact that many people will jump to a conclusion and potentially not buy a device if a reviewer has something bad to say about a bug or something similar without giving Google a chance to fix it.
Fairly certain that the last bullet point is specifically restricted by Google's NDA agreements, as well as more detailed reviews. Gotta wait till Nov 12 before we can get our fill of stuff
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Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
Some interesting points made, but also nothing specific mentioned about the X and an irrelevant comparison against the car industry, or if you must compare, then pick something like built in Sat Navs which are ludicrously expensive and rarely updated ( or at least for a reasonable cost). Current car is the first car in 10 years i have owned where the updates are free and available when I want. But even so, I can download a free app that does much of what my expensive sat nav does and sometimes more.
The whole technological world has conditioned us to be satisfied with poor products for years and arguably Apple did a lot to improve things for all of us. I have not owned a single device of any nature where I have not cursed the makers for some omission that seems important to me, or failure to update the software or some inherent bug. Couple that with the throw away culture of those of who who have the luxury to do so and you have the current state.
So what are you referring to with regard to the x that is not working and waiting for a bug fix?
As you say these devices have a very short shelf life and an equally short design, prototype, build, test period. With an open platform and variety of hardware options, issues are inevitable and Windows did a good job of conditioning us to that.
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Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
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Your're right, but I think the main problem is Android.
Everyone who is going to buy an Android is going to be a beta tester. None of the phones I've had was stable. Every phone had problems.
Oneplus must fix the main problems, but if the base isn't bugless, we can't expect that Oneplus or other producers can make a software totally free of bugs. (Ex. LP is one of the worst versions of Android, even if one the most looking version).
You guys are right! But i m still happy
I bought the opx seeing its spces, i knew oxygen os wil be a problem but still i got it becoz i knew that theres gona be a ton of roms for this phone!
But i believe its bad of oneplus ,to not provide a well finished(stable) software!
Totally agree with many of you guys. Dropped some "likes" here and there.
Really, waiting for some serious custom juice to flow soon. [emoji16]
So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
Well I can give you more relative comparison. I have both the base models of the Alcatel idol 3 5.5 and the zenfone 2 2gb variant and both perform pretty much rock solid. The idol 3 does have some lagging here and there but that is known with the 615 chipset. However all major functionality works on both phones. Asus as been pushing out refinement updates about every 3 weeks and marshmallow is due out very soon. Both phones are under 250 and with the holidays around you can probably get them in the sub 200 USD range. We could make the argument that these companies are much bigger and have been around the game longer. But we also must remember that this is OPs 3rd phone now. And that OP is run by a bunch of ex OPPO executives. To top that off OP had major dealings with CM in the initial OPO and borched software and updates. They simply have not learned and continue to throw out half baked cheap products. Forcing their customers into a "wait and pray it gets better mindset".
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So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
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Everything works, but there are some problems:
- proximity sensor too lazy when you are calling.
- light sensor lazy
- vibration soft
These are for the most annoying problems
Your points are solid. I wholeheartedly agree
To be honest I didn't have any problems. After one OTA the SD card wasn't visible in the System settings, but, at least for me, it was accessible. Since the last OTA this is restored, and there's also App to SD functionality.
Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
Android is too fragmented to expect a flawless experience. Hardware is too widely varied and the manufacturers push for new devices too quickly for the fine tuning to ever happen. If Android controlled the hardware like Apple does , you could see polish and refinement. Too many models, too many updates, many issues. It's easier to make it good enough and move on to the latest and greatest.
My OnePlus X should arrive early next week!
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coolasnju1993 said:
i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Yep you do.
Quasar said:
Yep you do. [/]
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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coolasnju1993 said:
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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From the vendor blobs.
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Dude apple earpods are the suckiest pair money can buy. If you love your music, buy new ones. Btw I got Brainwavz m2 and they are awesome
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Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
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Yes, indeed they are fast in fixing issues, but 1) we're talking about OOS specific bugs and 2) we're still talking about weeks, potentially months before it's all fixed. They definitely listen more to the users than other companies, but just today, I updated to the latest OOS version and suddenly there is lag when scrolling in the browser (NBPro, when swiping up/down it literally stops after just some millimeters) and the display seems less reactive in general, especially when using gestures on the lockscreen.
I've read about the same issues here on xda and on the oneplus forum and yes, maybe I can solve it by wiping or resetting, but I don't want to have to do that and spend more time than necessary on it, I didn't sign up to be a beta-tester for OOS.
Again, I'm happy I bought it and I will be patient (CM is close..) but it feels that with each update they fix some issues but create some new ones.
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The SD card issue was only a visual one,"
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That might be true, but as a customer I expect 100% perfect device since I paid 100% of the price.