[Q] Root problems - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm having problems with my root on the Canadian model of the S5. My phone is for sure rooted but only some apps that I grant root permission to actually get it. For example, Power Toggles gets the root access that it's granted but GameCIH doesn't. Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it?

Trying flashing the supersu or superuser zip file instead. I used to have these troubles :S

Hellscythe said:
Trying flashing the supersu or superuser zip file instead. I used to have these troubles :S
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Sorry, should have included that I'm using SuperSU already. I flashed superuser via zip file anyways. I tried different ROMs that were prerooted but the same thing happens still.

AWildTone said:
Sorry, should have included that I'm using SuperSU already. I flashed superuser via zip file anyways. I tried different ROMs that were prerooted but the same thing happens still.
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hmmm, try disabling knox? I heard a few people say that knox interferes with root, not TOO sure about it. But worth a try i guess

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[Q] Changing Superuser

Hi
I have been using clockworkmod superuser on stock 4.3 with no problems. However I have just flashed a new kernel and am now getting the message that the SU binaries are out of date. I have tried re-flshing the superuser.zip with CWM but still have the same message and of course no root. Is it possible to replace superuser with the latest supersu and see if that gets my root back. If so how I do it and will I then be able to unistall the clockwork superuser app once supersu is up and running.
Thanks
Andy.
g1dtf said:
Hi
I have been using clockworkmod superuser on stock 4.3 with no problems. However I have just flashed a new kernel and am now getting the message that the SU binaries are out of date. I have tried re-flshing the superuser.zip with CWM but still have the same message and of course no root. Is it possible to replace superuser with the latest supersu and see if that gets my root back. If so how I do it and will I then be able to unistall the clockwork superuser app once supersu is up and running.
Thanks
Andy.
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just flash the latest supersu flashable. search google for supersu, youll find it asap. its better than the latest superuser.
simms22 said:
just flash the latest supersu flashable. search google for supersu, youll find it asap. its better than the latest superuser.
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cool wikll give it a try once flashed will it replace the current superuser app or will i have to uninstall remove it manually?
g1dtf said:
cool wikll give it a try once flashed will it replace the current superuser app or will i have to uninstall remove it manually?
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itll add the supersu app
simms22 said:
itll add the supersu app
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By that do you mean it replaces the superuser that is currently installed or adds it as an additional app. Sorry for the confusion but still a little confused with the various methods of obtaining root with the various superusers etc.
g1dtf said:
By that do you mean it replaces the superuser that is currently installed or adds it as an additional app. Sorry for the confusion but still a little confused with the various methods of obtaining root with the various superusers etc.
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itll add the supersu app, youll probably have to uninstall the superuser app by yourself.
simms22 said:
itll add the supersu app, youll probably have to uninstall the superuser app by yourself.
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Thanks for the help and will let you know how I get on once I get it downloaded and installed.
Installed the zip and everything is now working ok and I have root back. The supersu app replaced the origional superuser app so nothing to uninstall/delete.
Thanks Again
Andy.
g1dtf said:
Installed the zip and everything is now working ok and I have root back. The supersu app replaced the origional superuser app so nothing to uninstall/delete.
Thanks Again
Andy.
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sweet

root and superSU

I was updating superSU on my note 3 after root. I tried to use game killer, only to get the message that root wasn't available. I loaded up superSU and was told that the binary couldn't be found... I downloaded a root checker and it said that root access was there... So I unrooted and re rooted. Same deal.
I'm not sure how to fix the issue.
Can anyone please help
(SM-N9005)
BallaratBloke81 said:
I was updating superSU on my note 3 after root. I tried to use game killer, only to get the message that root wasn't available. I loaded up superSU and was told that the binary couldn't be found... I downloaded a root checker and it said that root access was there... So I unrooted and re rooted. Same deal.
I'm not sure how to fix the issue.
Can anyone please help
(SM-N9005)
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Somethings wrong with your su I think. Have to given privillages to game killer in su?
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thahim said:
Somethings wrong with your su I think. Have to given privillages to game killer in su?
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005
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I have given it privileges. But when I open supersu says there is something wrong with su binary.
BallaratBloke81 said:
I have given it privileges. But when I open supersu says there is something wrong with su binary.
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Have you deleted then given Super SU privileges back? I find installing a new rom can sometimes screw with them....
ultramag69 said:
Have you deleted then given Super SU privileges back? I find installing a new rom can sometimes screw with them....
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When I first got the phone it had a rom full of provider bloatware. I flashed another stock Roma to get rid of it. Then I flashed xnote and decided OT wasn't for me, so I went back to stock (without bloats)
BallaratBloke81 said:
When I first got the phone it had a rom full of provider bloatware. I flashed another stock Roma to get rid of it. Then I flashed xnote and decided OT wasn't for me, so I went back to stock (without bloats)
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Delete the apps from SU then when prompted give them permission again - like normal you will need to re-open them again and get the "Grant root access" prompt from SU...This may work, has for me everytime...
Only other thing I would do if this didn't work would be re-stock and start from scratch...
ultramag69 said:
Delete the apps from SU then when prompted give them permission again - like normal you will need to re-open them again and get the "Grant root access" prompt from SU...This may work, has for me everytime...
Only other thing I would do if this didn't work would be re-stock and start from scratch...
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Yes hello, can someone please upload the note 3 4.3 touchwiz apk, i accidentally deleted mine, so please.
ultramag69 said:
Delete the apps from SU then when prompted give them permission again - like normal you will need to re-open them again and get the "Grant root access" prompt from SU...This may work, has for me everytime...
Only other thing I would do if this didn't work would be re-stock and start from scratch...
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I have already reflashed stock back to my phone, re rooted and the problem still exsists
Currently I'm on stock again (downloaded from sammobile)
Every time I open superSU, it tells me there is a problem with the SU BINARY (when I was rooted. I'm not trying to use super SU unrooted lol)
Just rooted again and its still the same...
Reflash stock, full wipe from stock recovery, reroot.
Or u have done a full wipe from stock recovery after flash stock firmware?
Sent from N9005, somewhere on this earth.
antique_sonic said:
Reflash stock, full wipe from stock recovery, reroot.
Or u have done a full wipe from stock recovery after flash stock firmware?
Sent from N9005, somewhere on this earth.
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Yeah, done all of that. Is there a way to manually wipe the SU binary and reinstall? The root checker app says root access is allowed
Is there another way to see if it's the SU binary or game killer having issues?
BallaratBloke81 said:
Yeah, done all of that. Is there a way to manually wipe the SU binary and reinstall? The root checker app says root access is allowed
Is there another way to see if it's the SU binary or game killer having issues?
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If you attempts to fix root access denied on game killer then it won't work. Gamekiller/gamecih/gameguardian doesn't work with android 4.3 and above.
I however tried gamecih with cm based rom last week & it worked
Rosli59564 said:
If you attempts to fix root access denied on game killer then it won't work. Gamekiller/gamecih/gameguardian doesn't work with android 4.3 and above.
I however tried gamecih with cm based rom last week & it worked
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OK, so you're saying those kind of apps will no longer work?
What about the SU binary issue?
BallaratBloke81 said:
OK, so you're saying those kind of apps will no longer work?
What about the SU binary issue?
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Its not a superSU issue, guess the dev needs to update the gamekiller app. Do you have root privileges with other root apps?
gee2012 said:
Its not a superSU issue, guess the dev needs to update the gamekiller app. Do you have root privileges with other root apps?
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Not as of yet. The photo of the warning I posted, comes up when I open SuperSU
BallaratBloke81 said:
Not as of yet. The photo of the warning I posted, comes up when I open SuperSU
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Try unrooting superSU from the app itself and reflash the latest (1.94 i think) superSU.zip in recovery or with Flashify (if compatible ,Playstore) flash CF Root in downloadmode. Hope that helps.
gee2012 said:
Try unrooting superSU from the app itself and reflash the latest (1.94 i think) superSU.zip in recovery or with Flashify (if compatible ,Playstore) flash CF Root in downloadmode. Hope that helps.
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I can't even get into the app to unroot
BallaratBloke81 said:
OK, so you're saying those kind of apps will no longer work?
What about the SU binary issue?
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Your SU binary got issue but yes even you solve it those apps won't work.
Try uninstall it from playstore. There is also flashable supersu
http://download.chainfire.eu/204 but I never use it either or maybe reroot
gee2012 said:
Try unrooting superSU from the app itself and reflash the latest (1.94 i think) superSU.zip in recovery or with Flashify (if compatible ,Playstore) flash CF Root in downloadmode. Hope that helps.
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ES explorer can't get root access either.
Should I flash superSU.zip straight over the top using recovery? Or is that not a good idea?
Rosli59564 said:
Your SU binary got issue but yes even you solve it those apps won't work.
Try uninstall it from playstore. There is also flashable supersu
http://download.chainfire.eu/204 but I never use it either or maybe reroot
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I have unrooted (flashing stock rom using recovery) and rerooted (using CF auto root... Or whatever it's called) many times.

[Q] 0x0x KNOX and Towelroot success....but SU binaries issue.

Who knew it would be that simple? Towelroot has rooted my Note 3, I'm finally back with Titaniuam Backup Pro and Knox is 0x0!
Amazing.
However I've installed CF's SuperSU and it fails to update the binaries.
I've frozen KNOX in Titanium and rebooted but they still won't update.
Do I even need to update them?
Also, if I try to install CWM will that trip KNOX?
jonboyuk said:
Who knew it would be that simple? Towelroot has rooted my Note 3, I'm finally back with Titaniuam Backup Pro and Knox is 0x0!
Amazing.
However I've installed CF's SuperSU and it fails to update the binaries.
I've frozen KNOX in Titanium and rebooted but they still won't update.
Do I even need to update them?
Also, if I try to install CWM will that trip KNOX?
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Download http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r5.zip . Don't flash it. Unzip it. Then go to /common folder and install superuser.apk. Run SuperSU from App Drawer, and let binary to update. Now you have it working. And don't worry about disabling KNOX. Just disable it.
By flashing CWM you will trip knox.
alexpowermetal said:
Download http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r5.zip . Don't flash it. Unzip it. Then go to /common folder and install superuser.apk. Run SuperSU from App Drawer, and let binary to update. Now you have it working. And don't worry about disabling KNOX. Just disable it.
By flashing CWM you will trip knox.
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Fantastic. thank you Alex. That worked perfectly. As you're in the know I'll ask you another question (or two)!
Because I don't want to trip knox I won't install CWM. As such I can't make a nandroid backup. I want to install the xposed framework and Wanam modules...but it strongly recommends a backup. Is it risky for me to do this?
Any idea what happens when an OTA update is release by Samsung?
jonboyuk said:
Fantastic. thank you Alex. That worked perfectly. As you're in the know I'll ask you another question (or two)!
Because I don't want to trip knox I won't install CWM. As such I can't make a nandroid backup. I want to install the xposed framework and Wanam modules...but it strongly recommends a backup. Is it risky for me to do this?
Any idea what happens when an OTA update is release by Samsung?
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I took the yolo approach and installed xposed and wanam with no problems. As you say don't want to risk loosing warranty but knox is still fine and now I have a customisable phone.
No idea about ota samsung update sorry.
pjtb said:
I took the yolo approach and installed xposed and wanam with no problems. As you say don't want to risk loosing warranty but knox is still fine and now I have a customisable phone.
No idea about ota samsung update sorry.
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Hahaha, I too have just taken the YOLO approach (as much as I hate that phrase!). Thanks mate!
jonboyuk said:
Hahaha, I too have just taken the YOLO approach (as much as I hate that phrase!). Thanks mate!
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Actually you can make nandroid backup without costume recovery. Just use Online Nandroid Backup. It makes nandroid backup in CWM or TWRP formats.
And then you can use Nandroid Manager to restore your backup. Although I still can't figure it out on how to restore a backup if you soft brick you phone.
alexpowermetal said:
Actually you can make nandroid backup without costume recovery. Just use Online Nandroid Backup. It makes nandroid backup in CWM or TWRP formats.
And then you can use Nandroid Manager to restore your backup. Although I still can't figure it out on how to restore a backup if you soft brick you phone.
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Cheers, not heard of that before. I'll have to look into it!
alexpowermetal said:
Download http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r5.zip . Don't flash it. Unzip it. Then go to /common folder and install superuser.apk. Run SuperSU from App Drawer, and let binary to update. Now you have it working. And don't worry about disabling KNOX. Just disable it.
By flashing CWM you will trip knox.
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Not quite sure what to do here. I've ODINed twice and just tried this approach, but I cannot get the binaries to update successfully. I keep getting the failure. Any ideas?
danjng said:
Not quite sure what to do here. I've ODINed twice and just tried this approach, but I cannot get the binaries to update successfully. I keep getting the failure. Any ideas?
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Now you can install SuperSU from play store as it was updated and now it should update binaries without a problem. Install SuperSU, open it, press "update binaries", use "normal" method (not CWM/TWRP), when it will ask you to disable knox, press "disabled knox" and then reboot.
I'm having a similar issue that's pretty frustrating. I root my phone and install supersu, asks to disable knox and everything works great until about a day after, I try to open Supersu and it says I need to update binaries but it will not update. So I have to uninstall supersu, root again then install Supersu again! Right now it's working fine but I'm scared to open Supersu in fear that it will happen all over again. It's been a pain! I even tried flashing the supersu zip through Safestrap to see if it helps but it did the same thing. Is anyone having a similar issue or can anyone help with this?
alexpowermetal said:
Download http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r5.zip . Don't flash it. Unzip it. Then go to /common folder and install superuser.apk. Run SuperSU from App Drawer, and let binary to update. Now you have it working. And don't worry about disabling KNOX. Just disable it.
By flashing CWM you will trip knox.
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Isn't the point of using towelroot to prevent tripping KNOX? When trying to update my SuperSU binaries it asks me to disable KNOX, won't this trip it?
toews said:
Isn't the point of using towelroot to prevent tripping KNOX? When trying to update my SuperSU binaries it asks me to disable KNOX, won't this trip it?
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As far as I understand, it disables software part of knox, so it (knox) wont prevent you to update binaries. Anyway it won't trip knox.
Binary issue
fsolares said:
I'm having a similar issue that's pretty frustrating. I root my phone and install supersu, asks to disable knox and everything works great until about a day after, I try to open Supersu and it says I need to update binaries but it will not update. So I have to uninstall supersu, root again then install Supersu again! Right now it's working fine but I'm scared to open Supersu in fear that it will happen all over again. It's been a pain! I even tried flashing the supersu zip through Safestrap to see if it helps but it did the same thing. Is anyone having a similar issue or can anyone help with this?
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I have the same problem with binary issues on the towelroot method. It works at first but after a reboot it says "Update binary files" So i do that and then it says "Failed" I have the verizon Note 3 on 4.4.2. I found a temp fix for this when having issues with binary update. You don't have to re-root your phone.
1. Save the apk super su to your phone.
2. After having problems with binary then uninstall the supersu app from your phone
3. Install the supersu apk using "ES File Explorer" Then load the app it'll still say failed.
4. Reboot the phone and open up Supersu and you won't get the binary issue
I know its annoying work around but its what i have figured out and it works.
Guys, can you help with 2 questions please?
I have a I9505 with 4.4.2 branded rom (ZTO) with towel root (know still 0x0) and disable OTA updates, I can't find a perfect custom rom (always a feature not working, missing or the interface it's a mess/colorfull), now I just want the stock unbranded rom.
1 - What is the safest way to flash the stock rom without trip knox?
2- After that, can I enable back OTA updates with root?
Thanks!
fsolares said:
I'm having a similar issue that's pretty frustrating. I root my phone and install supersu, asks to disable knox and everything works great until about a day after, I try to open Supersu and it says I need to update binaries but it will not update. So I have to uninstall supersu, root again then install Supersu again! Right now it's working fine but I'm scared to open Supersu in fear that it will happen all over again. It's been a pain! I even tried flashing the supersu zip through Safestrap to see if it helps but it did the same thing. Is anyone having a similar issue or can anyone help with this?
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Why are you re-rooting?
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jashton23 said:
I have the same problem with binary issues on the towelroot method. It works at first but after a reboot it says "Update binary files" So i do that and then it says "Failed" I have the verizon Note 3 on 4.4.2. I found a temp fix for this when having issues with binary update. You don't have to re-root your phone.
1. Save the apk super su to your phone.
2. After having problems with binary then uninstall the supersu app from your phone
3. Install the supersu apk using "ES File Explorer" Then load the app it'll still say failed.
4. Reboot the phone and open up Supersu and you won't get the binary issue
I know its annoying work around but its what i have figured out and it works.
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Same phone and carrier. Thanks for this. :good:
alexpowermetal said:
Download http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r5.zip . Don't flash it. Unzip it. Then go to /common folder and install superuser.apk. Run SuperSU from App Drawer, and let binary to update. Now you have it working. And don't worry about disabling KNOX. Just disable it.
By flashing CWM you will trip knox.
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I downloaded SuperSU from the link your provided, copied just the superuser.apk from /common folder to my Note 3 and then install.
Run SuperUser, which asked to disable KNOX (I clicked OK). KNOX disabled.
However, there is no prompt for the binary update. Am I doing anything wrong?
you could also flash the zip with mobile odin pro (available in play store)
*flies away*
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Killberty said:
you could also flash the zip with mobile odin pro (available in play store)
*flies away*
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Wouldn't this require TWRP? I don't have that, since installing TWRP will trip KNOX.
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but if i post something, you should read it, and maybe you are even smart enough to type in "mobile odin pro" in that play store instead of just commenting - if you had done that, you'd have seen that no custom recovery is required for flashing
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[Q] stump root being weird? any help appreciated!

hi people,
i am on firmware 800d20y, just bought the d800 today. i did the 'brute force' method, which initially worked, but after a short while, i lost root access. I literally have no idea what happened, the stump root app still says 'device is rooted', but the root checker app says i don't have root access. I tried a couple of different apps to check for root access, but to no avail.
any help, ANY at all to get root would help immensely! I'm trying to get a custom recovery (prob twrp) so i can flash a cm12 nightly rom...
im still a little new to this, any help would be appreciated!
You could try LGroot
samalamadumalama said:
hi people,
i am on firmware 800d20y, just bought the d800 today. i did the 'brute force' method, which initially worked, but after a short while, i lost root access. I literally have no idea what happened, the stump root app still says 'device is rooted', but the root checker app says i don't have root access. I tried a couple of different apps to check for root access, but to no avail.
any help, ANY at all to get root would help immensely! I'm trying to get a custom recovery (prob twrp) so i can flash a cm12 nightly rom...
im still a little new to this, any help would be appreciated!
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Did you install SuperSU from playstore after you rooted?
Really now said:
Did you install SuperSU from playstore after you rooted?
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yup, right after the root checker.
samalamadumalama said:
yup, right after the root checker.
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look if supersu is perhaps blocking all the apps.
wulsic said:
look if supersu is perhaps blocking all the apps.
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no, it keeps asking to update the binary, which never works.
samalamadumalama said:
no, it keeps asking to update the binary, which never works.
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Try to flash supersu through recovery
Do you mean through a custom recovery, or the stock one? I'm only asking because I don't have a custom recovery yet. And if you mean through the stock recovery, I don't know how to do that :/

super su

Anyone know why it wont stay
Ssys no batty
Says no binary installed
pbedard said:
Says no binary installed
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1st, did you flash the SU file? 2nd, what rom are you on?
Yes 5 times 2 im using dev digitals rom im on sprint
pbedard said:
Yes 5 times 2 im using dev digitals rom im on sprint
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The latest SU File? which is SR3 2.79? if it didnt work try the Unsu.zip file to remove SU and then flash the SU file again. see if that works.
Devdigital help me thanks
pbedard said:
Devdigital help me thanks
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did you flashed the unsu file then flashed the Su file?
Devdigital tols me replash the rom cause ite not using super su its using majiskSU
pbedard said:
Devdigital tols me replash the rom cause ite not using super su its using majiskSU
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AAhh i see. Now i know where you are standing at. you are using magisk. But do you have magisksu ? or keep having supersu as main root but magisk installed? . What i mean to say is, when you go into the magisk app, in the 2nd box of the main screen, does it shows supersu as root method? or magisksu? if it is magisksu then you dont need supersu, now, if it does says supersu, then you do have to fix the issue of supersu to unroot by using supersu function and then go directly into recovery mode and flash magisksu once again.
It says majisksu
pbedard said:
It says majisksu
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then you dont need su (unless you want it). It is because you already have magisksu (which is pretty much doing the same as su). one overrides the other and then one gets thrown out. Usually to install magisk manually, one does as follows:
1) install magisk app from playstore
2) give supersu access (granted to magisk su)
3) use unroot function in supersu
4) flash magisk zip in recovery mode.
Now, there are other methods to achieve magisksu but the point is that maisksu has changed the binary (which is what SuperSU is telling you that you dont have).But that doesnt mean you are not rooted. you are already rooted with magisk and can achieve pretty much anything that you could achieve with supersu. (it will ask you for prompts asking you whether you want to give su access to "x" or "y" app. etc... Now, if you want SuperSU, you could try to flash the magisk uninstaller. Then do the process of rooting that has been specified for your phone. That should return the SU binary to normality . (this assuming you try to unroot and then flash SU back but didnt work)
hey guys bought my ls997 used. has root because i get the flash screen (untrusted)and twrp is installed and working. how do i find out which to flash ? any advantages to use supersu over magisk ?
i installed magisk manager and it states no root found.
Majisk u have to turn root access on majisk works alot better
@pbedard
Did the help @jinkerz9430 gave work for you?
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