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So like.. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is a amazing built tablet and all but the little problems that acer has are horrible.. As in sleep wake/off, updates, battery drain by a phone app.. And etc.. Now im thinking about all of this and im thinking do any of you think it would be a good idea to return and wait til the new samsung or toshiba come out? Tomorrow i should be in work and i will be asking my manager if they got a release date on the samsung or toshiba tablet.. Since i work at staples and we should be getting the samsung nd toshiba from what i know.. Now im wondering everybody explain why acer should be kept because from the prices samsung is only a 50$ difference thats not a lot.. So lets hear it? I think the updates and bootloader being locked are my two biggest concerns about this tablet because im a crackflasher on my phone i wanna do the same on my tablet =]
AH! ****.. Somebody please move this to general i thought i was in the general section..
I returned mine today
Loved the tablet bur dreampt of unlocked recovery. I miss it already, hefty tab but so many ports
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Yeah i know im thinking about returning or keeping.. I need more input come on =]
Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
It's technology. It's a moving target. Remember your first blu-ray player?
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The will always be "the next best thing" the samsung is nice and thin but lacks ports. The toshiba is a bit of an unknown at the moment, and afaik this is there first step into the android os and cell/mobile market, so even more bugs are likely. I've had 2 Acer android cellphones, and there updates and stability was superb. In a few weeks we will have 3.1 and I'm quite sure most if not all bugs will be fixed. Just look at the bugs the xoom had when it was released...... not even a working sd card. And now there quite happy with there little tablet. The iconia is still brand spankin new, let Acer iron out the bugs....... they will
Yea but the stupid.. Phone and Tele app that eat battery nd mess up updates is freaking retarded.. The toshiba should be coming early june i could return my tablet for a while since i work at the store i bought it from and my manager will take it back so lets see.. Im trying to give Acer a chance since i own a Acer netbook and Computer and both are great.. Never bought a Acer phone but the tablet is built amazingly just what they did with software is horrible..
I was at Best Buy today bringing my A500 for an exchange for another A500 due to the HDMI port was kinda loose, and when touching the cable the pictures/video would go off on the monitor. I'm digging the Acer..
My cousin has an Asus transformer 16gb .... I made fun of him when I pointed out that his Asus didn't have flash, a low resolution front cam ... OH , when I was there, in the same spot where they stock the tablets, I saw at least three or four Motorola XOOM..... all was open box.
IMO .. all I care for is specs...and it seems that majority of the new tablets including the acer has really close in hardware specs, besides cosmetic.
The only thing giving me pause is lack of recovery. I'm used to being able to fix stuff myself. If tis thing goes tits up I have to rely on my retailer to take care of me.
Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Lol we chased samsung john away with pitchforks and torches. That whole thing was a total sham.
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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Lol.. The way you put it it sounds horrible.. Lol but no the etc i mean locked bootloader, no recovery, you cant delete specfic apps because if you do and try to restore you get a brick, updates mostly international, and **** like that the acer is built good and i know theres always something new around the corner because i have had android since the g1 days and getting a new phone like every 3 months i know about the new things lmfao so im just thinking on if acer will make it better in the next couple weeks because if they do and they fix everything i would happily stay with acer because right now i dont want to risk anything on the tablet try to do anything because i know theres no way of returning it to stock at the moment if i eff something up i just want that satisfaction that if i **** something up i can fix it myself and not call acer and send it out and have them fix it..
I hear ya.
I don't consider the locked bootloader, personal recovery option and inability to remove pre-installed apps as 'issues'. And, really, it isn't. At least, not for those of us who just use it as it was intended to be used.
Yes, the a500 needs a little tweaking, however it's mostly Honeycomb and all minor. Unlike some tabs that have glaring hardware issues, the a500 leads the pack in quality and consistency. IMO, anyways (; (sure I'm biased but I have played with other tabs)
Don't get me wrong, I see the value in being able to recover on your own (if something goes awry) but in the end, it went that way because of user error (or bad mod, whatever the case may be) and because it was unlocked / rooted - It's no fault of Acer and it shouldn't be held against them or the tablet. Like all other tablet manufacturers, they wouldn't support that even if they did release the key. And in the end, all we'd really get out of it all are more people bricking their tabs, Acer getting screwed over by people lying and returning their tabs - all for the ability to what? Delete or rename a few files? Get back maybe, 100mb on a 16gb tab with microSD and USB?
If some mod came out that flipped HC on it's head and created a user experience that surpasses all others, then, and only then, would I ever consider rooting (ROM hacking etc ((if that ever becomes possible)) Until then, what few and silly 'root req' apps there are and minuscule returns one gets are far too insignificant for me.
But, you know. In the end, it about what you want. If modability is a prerequisite, you probably should have waited. If you take it back, you might want to consider waiting until you know for a fact that all those features are available in the next tablet du-jour.
I get what ur saying.. But heres the thing ive played with the xoom and asus and everything there built great as well just those little features that i wont use like usb support are the only thing missing on those other tablets.. I like root because it can help me get rid of the stuff i dont use and is running the background.. also the custom roms are usually a lot better than what the manufacturs usually release with the hardware.. So idk im gonna wait til the new thing comes out and see what the developers do with it.. Since i only had the tablet for a week nd 2 days.. I have a while to return =]
return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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+1, I only wish I were more development savvy side to help out...
I'm merely a lowly Oracle/MSSQL server, EMC SAN?NAS admin.....
Well i have no idea why i switch so much maybe i just like that new phone/tablet/computer feeling lol but hey you guys do put up some good points so lets see what happens..
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
Greetings Dorset,
Enjoy your Nexus One
Yours Sincerely,
Surrey.
P.S Good choice of phone, but look after that power button! (Trackball wake is a must).
Yeah the Power Button issue definitely concerns me, but I'll probably root after a few months, just so I can be sure that the rest of the hardware is okay.
In terms on Custom ROMs, everyone seems to have CM7 on their N1. Is this generally considered to be one of the best ROMs, or is there another reason for its popularity?
Oh, and Hai Surrey
Also make sure to make use of changing the color of trackball notifications. I don't one an N1 anymore [ I went to an HD2 since], but I loved the notification light on the trackball more than any other phones notification LED.
I'll definitely be making use of Trackball notifications for sure.
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In terms on Custom ROMs, everyone seems to have CM7 on their N1. Is this generally considered to be one of the best ROMs, or is there another reason for its popularity?
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Basically, this phone is too underpowered for properly running Sense builds, and the ones that were ported have always been with problems, the only relatively stable one being Froyo Sense 1 build ported from Desire by eViL D:.
This leaves it with stock, CM7 and MIUI.
Personally, for this phone I prefer MIUI - IMHO it's far more useful than CM7, containing many nice Sense bits while being small and fast (smooth).
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Basically, this phone is too underpowered for properly running Sense builds, and the ones that were ported have always been with problems, the only relatively stable one being Froyo Sense 1 build ported from Desire by eViL D:.
This leaves it with stock, CM7 and MIUI.
Personally, for this phone I prefer MIUI - IMHO it's far more useful than CM7, containing many nice Sense bits while being small and fast (smooth).
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I beg to differ.
HyperSense is perfectly stable, as is Revolution (though he continues to add features and change things up so issues could arise in new builds). I use HyperSense as a daily with absolutely no issues.
As for MIUI, I'd agree that its a great choice also...though i ALWAYS install LauncherPro because i love the features MIUI packs but absolutely derad the iPhone look.
Just my .02.
Welcome to XDA man!
phone is not underpowered main disadvantage is it lacks internal memory when talking about sense roms.Despite of this many people have successfully ported gb sense to n1 without graphical glitches ( thanks to kernel developer fogot name ) other bugs.go ahead and try;u will definately love them
amolji said:
phone is not underpowered main disadvantage is it lacks internal memory when talking about sense roms.Despite of this many people have successfully ported gb sense to n1 without graphical glitches ( thanks to kernel developer fogot name ) other bugs.go ahead and try;u will definately love them
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I happened to have N1 and MT4G at the same time (now the N1 is gone), and I can compare their performance first hand.
N1 is seriously underpowered, graphics-wise and storage-speed-wise, to run Sense.
Internal memory disadvantage can be overcome by various SD-EXT utilization techniques.
And Sense doesn't have trackball wake.
dbasabe did great work, but it doesn't turn N1 into a capable Sense device.
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Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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Congratulations!
Not many people would like to buy a cellphone which was released one year ago since more and more new devices come out in a real fast way.
But believe me, you won't regret for this and hope you can enjoy it, if you have any problems in using your cellphone, you are welcomed to this forum!
I agree on the post above. I just decided to buy a Nexus one despite of all the high-powered android devices nowadays. I guess I just simply love the look and feel of this phone.
Anyway, welcome to the forum! A lot of good and helpful folks are here. Cheers!
Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
dionix05 said:
I agree on the post above. I just decided to buy a Nexus one despite of all the high-powered android devices nowadays. I guess I just simply love the look and feel of this phone.
Anyway, welcome to the forum! A lot of good and helpful folks are here. Cheers!
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Awesome! Glad I'm not the only one buying this phone after so long.
So far I am loving it. And considering the price of new phones, I really don't think you'd be getting much more over the N1 for what you get with new phones.
I will use this phone for at least 1 year.
I have the nexus since it's release to canada by google, no power button issue at all, cyanogen is one of the best rom for a lot of device, on the nexus it manage memory well so it's a good choice.
As far as this phone is concerned, it may not be dual core, but it's fast and the only missing feature compared to newer phone are 4G and near field communication, unless you need those you should be happy with the nexus one despite is age!
I personally doesn't see any justification to upgrade yet
besides the touchscreen failures .. its a great phone despite its age
creebefu said:
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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I'm in exactly the same position as you! (and what's more, I'm also from Dorset ) Except my Nexus One came today! It's beautiful! I got mine for about £109 from ebay and I'm also hoping to root and install CM7, as that's what I had running on my old Motorola Milestone (which died and was the reason I bought this) Good luck with this device!
One of the reasons why CM7 is so popular, is because it is pretty much the only truly custom build based on AOSP out there. There are a lot of AOSP builds that are very basic and don't deviate much from stock, and then there are a much larger amount of builds that are based off the CyanogenMod code base. MIUI is one of those.
But MIUI does make a ton of changes to the CM base, just as CM makes a ton of changes to the AOSP base. It does make MIUI stand out of the pack of CM-derived ROMs out there. While it did start with the CM codebase, they have done an excellent job of distinguishing themselves and giving a completely different user experience than someone running CM.
There are definitely a lot of different builds out there for our beloved N1's, but the two that tend to push the envelope the most and add the most new features are CM and MIUI. Try both out and see how you like them.
And I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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One of the reasons why CM7 is so popular, is because it is pretty much the only truly custom build based on AOSP out there. There are a lot of AOSP builds that are very basic and don't deviate much from stock, and then there are a much larger amount of builds that are based off the CyanogenMod code base. MIUI is one of those.
But MIUI does make a ton of changes to the CM base, just as CM makes a ton of changes to the AOSP base. It does make MIUI stand out of the pack of CM-derived ROMs out there. While it did start with the CM codebase, they have done an excellent job of distinguishing themselves and giving a completely different user experience than someone running CM.
There are definitely a lot of different builds out there for our beloved N1's, but the two that tend to push the envelope the most and add the most new features are CM and MIUI. Try both out and see how you like them.
And I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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miui is off of AOSP, not CM.. IIRC
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miui is off of AOSP, not CM.. IIRC
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Negative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI
MIUI is based on Android 2.3.7 and CyanogenMod 7.1 sources
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I have the nexus since it's release to canada by google, no power button issue at all, cyanogen is one of the best rom for a lot of device, on the nexus it manage memory well so it's a good choice.
As far as this phone is concerned, it may not be dual core, but it's fast and the only missing feature compared to newer phone are 4G and near field communication, unless you need those you should be happy with the nexus one despite is age!
I personally doesn't see any justification to upgrade yet
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^completely agree with this guy here. I purchased my N1 (US though, not Canada ) at release. I've had not a single issue with power button or anything for that matter. Out of the "common" N1 issues, the only one I encountered was small dust or dirt particles under the screen. That's kind of my fault because I work outside and I keep my phone in my pocket where stuff does get in my pocket on occasions. I plan on eventually researching how to take the screen off and clean that stuff out.
As for everything else he said, spot on. Phone functions plenty fast enough and internet moves quick enough for my taste (and I use my internet A LOT including teethering to my PC as my main source of internet use). Though I would love to get a Galaxy Nexus, I don't think I can justify to myself (or my wife for that matter! haha) the need to spend $700 on a new phone.
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besides the touchscreen failures .. its a great phone despite its age
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Never encountered any such issues.
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...I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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^this guy is right as well. I use to work for U-Haul and I had my N1 for maybe 2 months, didn't know anything about rooting and such as it was my first serious smart phone (I came from an LG Vu) when some younger guy came in with an N1 (only one I've ever seen in person by the way besides mine, to this day) and we started talking about it and he asked me if I had force updated my phone and such. He told me about XDA, I joined up, and here I am today. I force updated with the update.zip that was on here, learned about rooting, and within a week after that I had my phone rooted and never looked back. Did a lot of CM nightly testing and such. I've used CM, MIUI, Sense...you name it...from developers new and old (still miss Evil's work!) and every kernel you can think of.
I'd highly suggest rooting ASAP and taking full advantage of this amazing phone
creebefu said:
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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Your unlucky...
The newer Nexus S is £199 Sim free at carphine warehouse!
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Soooo, I recently purchased a Note 3 and I'm MOSTLY happy with a lot of things about the phone... BUT the idea that we may never get an unlocked bootloader (SOOO annoying, had a Thunderbolt for the last two years and was really looking forward to getting CM again!) is making me question whether I should stay with my new phone or not. Looking for a little advice on keeping the N3 or getting something new:
Pros:
1.) The hardware is incredible. Coming from the Thunderbolt, this thing is insanely fast.
2.) The screen is awesome. The size doesn't bother me at all.
3.) Battery life!
Cons:
1.) Touch Wiz. I used to own an original Droid and LOVED the OS, eventually switching to CM for added features. Most of the stuff I dislike I can turn off, but there's a lot of bloat and dumb ideas here. (Why Samsung makes me turn up the volume and say I won't explode my head every time I plug in headphones is insane... I'M PLUGGING IT INTO MY CAR AND I'M NO LONGER 12 YEARS OLD.)
2.) The screen isn't big enough to use as an e-reader. This is not a huge issue, I had just HOPED it would be... BUT, since that's the case, I could easily switch to another phone and get a tablet too and not feel bad about it.
3.) Gaming... again, I had hoped the N3 would be able to provide gaming and e-reader and phone all into one device, but Android games are really just too shallow for me.
Soooo, what it really comes down to is if you guys think this device will be unlocked down the line OR if you think I could adjust it to make a more stock android/ AOSP/ CM type experience. If I was able to put CM on here I would be sitting pretty. I'm just worried it will turn into a situation like the Thunderbolt with limited updates and no real way to get new software...
If I did get a new phone, what would you guys recommend? I'm looking at the HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2 and Galaxy S4. I haven't yet looked into which ones have fully unlocked bootloaders with decent roms, but that would be a deal breaker.
Thanks for any and all help, you guys are awesome!!
It sounds (to me) like you should get rid of it and get a phone that you can put CM on. I, personally, have never been a fan of CM. I like miui (haven't had that working 100% on a phone for probably 3 years now though) or heavily modded stock roms more. But as far as speed and battery life. This thing is awesome. Big screen is a + for me too. And it's got more features than I care to use or learn which is also a + I guess.
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Ultimately it all comes down to what you want. I mean, if it doesn't live up to your standards why keep it? It's your money to spend how you see fit. Buy something you feel will be worthwhile. If you're looking for the original Android experience the Moto X is a sweet phone and easy to carry and use.
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Just a little FYI, i came to the note 3 from a razr maxx, also a locked bootloader using safestrap. It is an officially supported device in the CM build. Sure an unlocked bootloader is great no matter the phone, but a really solid phone can sometimes trump that one little perk. Just a different opinion for your process. Good Luck.
This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
changt34x said:
This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
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I have to agree. I love the phone but my flashaholic status is slowly going away. When I had the TP, TP2, Evo, Evo 3D and Rezound I'd have a new rom almost every three days. Depending on what the devs put out. I have never been an AOSP guy so CM never really meant alot to me. I understand that guys want flexibility. I have heard guys say they couldn't stand sense on HTC just as people want TW off their phone. I love the N3 and it's a nice step up from the S3 I had previously. I might kingo and safe strap once I'm done moving just because but I'm really kinda liking not wiping and restoring my phone all the time too. I may have to change my xda button in my signature to just senior member..
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I came to the note 3 from note 2. I want super impressed coming from n2, but ultimately will keep the n3 and sell my n2. I have to all out because every time I touch my n2 I miss it. I just think it feels better in my hands them does the n3.
I'm so over flashing. I was flashing a new rom at least twice a week. I'm happy with tw. Flashing, imo, is a complete waste of time. To me it kind of sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of the Galaxy Note 3 and into a different phone simply because the boot loader is locked. If that is the case then yes I would try a phone that you could flash. I happen to have a Galaxy Note 2 with an unlocked bootloader and a stock rom on there if you are interested and it has all kinds of accessories.
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There are some great points in this thread. I have a note 2 that is pretty new to me. I absolutely love the phone and while I like the unlocked status, I feel I can get most of what I want from a phone with root and xposed modules. I like CM and AOSP ROMs, but the camera quality and options never seem as good with those builds. As a father, the camera has become one of the most important features of my smart phone. That said, I'm considering selling my N2 and HTC One and getting an N3, essentially committing to no more flashing.
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profman03 said:
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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You had the exact same phones as me minus the tp.
Tp2, evo, evo 3D, rezound, N3.
Galaxy Note 3, HTC Rezound, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Evo, HTC Touch Pro 2, LG Voyager
Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
From what I have seen so far with this phone is a root with some theming is plenty. Just flashing kernels never really (to me) felt like they did anything. I came from the s3, so just rooting debloating with some greenify makes this phone amazing.
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I say keep your Note 3, root it, freeze/remove bloatware, and customize with Wanam Xposed. As far as your "CONS" go, it sounds like you're going to need a tablet in addition to the Note 3. What kind of gaming are you looking to do? Do you just want something that has a bigger screen/better hardware?
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Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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Just rooted, put xposed on there and wanam. Now I'm adjusting settings and debloating... things are looking up.
I'll sell u my mint verizon note 2..already unlocked running beans right now.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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+1 Imo custom stock roms were never considered actual developing in the early android days. They were more so considered themes and the guys creating them were called Chefs. Something changed in the last couple years...however AOSP is were "real development" exists. Xposed app has pretty much shifted things back the other direction allowing the end user to modify a stock rom fairly easy. That combined with a few apps like Ninja morph to modify the framework.res files and the end user can create a custom stock rom fairly easy. I mainly run beans because of the AOSP themeing and I tweak the rest in myself. Dont take me wrong I appreciate guys like Beans because its time consuming doing the things he does.
Anyone interested in trading for a verizon lg g2? Already rooted, too...
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After messing around with root, and xposed for a while, I'm less concerned that there won't be enough support on this device to do the things that I want. I do have a few more questions, though:
1.) Has anyone started a list of all the apps that come on the stock rom and which we can freeze or delete entirely? (I will happily start this thread if there's interest and support for it.)
2.) Does anyone know how to prevent the volume getting reduced after plugging in headphones? I use my phone for music in my car and would really appreciate it if I didn't have to turn up the volume every time I plugged it in. (Wanam has an option to prevent the warning pop up, but the volume still gets reduced.)
Now that we have unlock, custom bootloader and root, when will we start seeing custom ROMs for the MPE?
Are we waiting for Google or Moto to release the factory ROM file? Any guesses on timing?
I am excited to see all the wonderful customization that can be done for this developer friendly phone!
My 64GB MPE is scheduled for delivery by October 1. Ordered on Sept 10. I doubt this schedule will be met since there seems to be shortage of 64GB phones.
By the time you get your phone we should have something. Devs got one booting. Bunch of bugs though. In do time.
Builds are being tested. It shouldn't be too much longer.
I've done one, pretty stock just deodexed etc and some minor mods. If I get a chance to work on it should be available in a day or 2
Phone is at my doorstep today. Tonight I will be unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP, backing-up the default image, rooting and installing Xposed.
I was hoping to have a custom ROM, but am fine with waiting a bit for the magic to happen.
I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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I really hope the openness of this phone draws development. I went with this over the N5X due to the memory card slot. Plus, my wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.
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My wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.
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Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.
dclutter1 said:
Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.
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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.
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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.
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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.
I'm just thinking out loud but I don't see the new Nexus being worth the money. No sdcard is a real killer for me. The camera probably won't be that great. Hopefully an update will fix some of our camera woes. I could care less about a fingerprint reader. I'm hoping some developers will not be crazy about the new Nexus and switch over to this phone. Hash is working on the CM but I have not heard anyone else say they planned on doing much with this device. Hopefully after the dust settles on the Nexus launch we might get more developers. This phone is a dream for many users and developers with the ability to be unlocked. Lenovo dropped the ball not giving this "Developer's Edition" status. I'm really pleased with it so far for the money.
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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.
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Yeah, I went with 32gb, and a 64gb card. If the new Nexus had a 64gb model, it would help sway me, but I'm going to have to think long and hard with 32gb being the largest.
I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being
Keep at it, it will come eventually.
-Funk
Aridon said:
I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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It'll have more than a few ROMs. Being that it's the same phone across the board, it'll have more development than nearly every other phone (other than the Nexus devices, obviously). I have absolutely zero worry that lack of development will be an issue for the Pure. The complaints you see around here most likely won't scare devs off. They're smart enough to know you get that with almost every phone.
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I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being
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Cheers bro lots of people counting on you
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When? Now, cm running here very well. Any doubters out there, devs hustled and already an excellent first pass!
I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...
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I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...
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Glad to see so many familiar names committing to this phone. I love your blue themes.
When its ready... I think.
Yeah~
Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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In short, it's still Awesome to me!
The best thing is; there's so many stable ROMs to try, I don't think much of 2013 device has any development going now at all. So yeah I'm pretty satisfied.
I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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Try CM11 by Bagyusz [v150826] if you haven't yet.
It's the smoothest 4.4.4 ROM I've ever used!
I have never even flashed phone than the SP.
The only reason i still have it, i like the colour lights.
Soooo sloww, android 6 rom fixed it but maybe too late?
I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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could you just try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/general/lagfree-want-lagfree-4-days-battery-t3245164
Sometimes I don't like how it lags.
But it's cool to use custom Roms on it.
I have it since 2013, but I want to buy a new one, lag free.
as long as i get new ROMS to try .. i love xsp
using one right now, rooted but with JB 4.3 and stock ROM. it gave me quite a headache at first due to some lag/freezing issues. was able to resolve those issues after deleting the built-in Facebook app.
I love it. It might not be the best phone but I love it. It can easily cover my needs ( mainly lots of video streaming) and I recently went back to stock 4.1.2 (from a 5.1.1 rom) that I've modded on my own. I just can't find something really bad to say about this phone. I'll keep using it as my daily driver until it can't cover my needs.
I have been using mine for 2 years and it is still a really good phone, yes it sometimes very occasionally gets the yellow fading and the memory management could be a bit better but in general it does everything you can ever need. Recently I have been a bit a bored though as I have had no justification to get a new phone So just started playing with the lollipop roms. Definitely given it a new lease of life!
Well i have this phone for a little more than 2 years i fell in love with it's compact design and of course the unique illumination bar,
it's still like day one on the outside, i bought it because my Neo V had dropped of my pocket and went to heaven.
But after 2 years i really got bored with,i didn't have many lags maybe because i don't use it more than average but the worst was that the keyboard kept disappearing and it didn't show up.
With XSP i am doing my first steps at heavy modding flashing etc,i remember those day that i was super happy cause i did made it to change the menu icons in my K800i and i was showing of at school ,anyway,i am afraid to get it bricked but i read tons of pages with one purpose the goal for me with custom roms is to find the battery drain, and the stability (ok ... sort of) of the original version, hopefully.
I definitely won't regret buying it, it worth's it's money, i comfortable keeping it even more, and i am still angry with Sony for not getting 4.4kk .
Peace !
I have it since last 2 years. Sold it last month to try Xperia M5, returned M5 (Because its a horrible phone) and re bought my SP with loss of 10 pounds
Best feature Notification LED and yup Gaming on XSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M5
very laggy phone, would not recommend it to anyone