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Figured I would try here....ive searched google and I cant get I answer...some say no...some say yes...some say mybe...
Android 4 is a deciding factorin what tablet I will buy next weekend..
I woot root my tablet so interested in offical one
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I don't understand what you're asking ???
I think you're asking if there's going to be an official ICS update, which there will be sometime in the first half of the year. Why you're on XDA and against rooting I have no idea but you can always return to stock if you ever need to return it or have it serviced. and try proofreading next time ...
cathryes said:
Figured I would try here....ive searched google and I cant get I answer...some say no...some say yes...some say mybe...
Android 4 is a deciding factorin what tablet I will buy next weekend..
I woot root my tablet so interested in offical one
Thanks
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Well you definitely didn't search google too hard, I found a source in a few seconds. So yeah, Samsung has stated that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will get their official version of ICS (supposedly in Q1 2012). http://androidadvices.com/samsung-confirms-ics-40-galaxy-s2-note-tab-101-tab-77/
I would seriously recommend you to look into rooting and booting up a custom ROM, they are usually WAY better then what Samsung offers us (if you're worried about stability and similar stuff, CyanogenMod has been around a long while and has had over 1 million(!) user installs to date. So it's definitely a good and stable ROM).
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
Thanks
zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
Thanks
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You could install whatever ROM on your Desire, but there is always the chance that something that doesn't work quite right; like BT not working, or WiFi broken or some other odds and end.
One thing I learned from owning Nexus's in the past is that many times you'll see that everything is 100% working more often than not. And that makes it worth it to me.
Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
I don't think it's easy to understand how good a Nexus is until you use one.
That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
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But the Desire was a more "hacker friendly" device than others... follow the woes of getting CM9 (and 10) on the Galaxy S2 (I9100) or follow the drama that is the One X (AT&T.... root on the newest software version took forever; there is still no official bootloader unlock from HTC). The One X+ (on AT&T) might be the same... no ability to root or official unlocking of the bootloader for quite a while. The Verizon SGS 3 had its bootloader locked by Verizon (brilliant minds were able to bypass this, however..).
the moral of the story? the Nexus devices are able to have 1). quicker software updates because the carrier and phone manufacturer aren't involved and 2) can be rooted and bootloader unlocked right out of the box, ready to flash that custom rom that you always wanted.
that's not to say you can't have CM10 or any other custom rom on a phone that's not a Nexus, but anymore, restrictions and the refusal to release some bits of code, drivers, etc. from manufacturers can keep custom roms (at least ones built from AOSP) from functioning 100% on some devices (again, see I9100 development).
The nexus line gets the update on day 1.
Look how long it took to get cm 9 onto the contemporaries of the galaxy Nexus (gs2,g2x,sensation,etc...)
If you don't mind waiting 2-3 months, go for one of the other phones.
I've owned all of the above... And I'll never buy a non nexus again.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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It's good that I didn't waste my time explaining to someone like you then.
lazarat said:
I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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Why are you even buying the N4 then?
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zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
Thanks
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Depending on where you live, the N4 is the least expensive. So more money in your pocket.
I've used nearly every single Android phone T-Mobile has to offer including the HD2 (winmo 6.5) and as far as I can tell, imo... no device has ever ran aosp or cm as smooth and flawless as the Nexus devices I've owned. I've always has the least amount of problems with a Nexus device.
Also, I hate waiting months for updates, I prefer to have my phone updated with the latest software when it's released. If you never owned a Nexus before, I recommend getting one now, it's the best time and this is definitely the best Nexus of them all...obviously since it's newest, but you get my point.
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock.
While Nexus updates are awesome, keep in mind that Google has a pattern of discontinuing updates for its Nexus phones once they are two years old. Examples: Nexus One didn't get ICS (2 years after release) and Nexus S didn't get Jelly Bean 4.2 (again, 2 years after release). Galaxy Nexus is next in line.. I doubt it has anything to do with whether or not the hardware can support the new OS. Seems like it's just a rule they follow.
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You would still indirectly profit due to the updates being 1) instant, rather than having to rely on leaks until the "official" oem release, 2) open; for example, samsung not releasing the exynos 4 sources led to cm10 being very buggy
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tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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Could anyone confirm that? I would really want to root the phone.. and if that means I would have the same "update troubles" as with any other rooted/custom room device, then this would be a big minus point
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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As far as I know you will get OTA if rooted as long as you have stock rom and recovery, but I don't know for sure
Why arent there any AOSP ROMs yet? Most devices have a couple within the first month of release, yet the N3 doesn't.
Rule #1: Don't ask for ETA's
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Rule #1: Don't ask for ETA's
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I think it's a legit question and I've been worried about that as well. But I think the reason is solely because of knox. It will take some extra time to figure it out and once it's done there will be plenty of roms. I know for example that a guy is working to get his rom for Galaxy S II, S III and Note 2 to Note 3 as well. But it would just take some (like Christmas or something)
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Why arent there any AOSP ROMs yet? Most devices have a couple within the first month of release, yet the N3 doesn't.
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yeah the "most" devices you are talking about are ones that already run AOSP or are really close to AOSP, sammy phone susually start getting AOSP roms in about 2 to 3 month after release, or atleast that was the case with the s4.. i remember back in the s2 days when the first cm build showed up after about 6 or 7 month of release and even that was unofficial LOL
I just started a topic with pretty much the same discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512263
Possible AOSP development discussion
I remember a photo of the n3 running CM from Steve whatever his name is (running CM) so there is some hope. Personally I'd like to see an OMNI room ROM before I get it (for the AOSP multi window). Was going for nexus but the battery life seems pathetic.
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I am currently using a Galaxy S5 on t-mobile and cannot wait for cyanogenmod to release a nightly build. I see there are a couple of cyanogen based roms available now but there is no working camera. i was just wondering what is wrong with the development issue for a working camera. i love everything about aosp roms and was actually considering switching to a nexus 5 just for the pure android experience, but figured i would hold off a little longer to see whats in store this fall with the next nexus or silver or whatever theyre planning on calling it. its a dumb question i know and i just have to be patient. thanks in advance
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I am currently using a Galaxy S5 on t-mobile and cannot wait for cyanogenmod to release a nightly build. I see there are a couple of cyanogen based roms available now but there is no working camera. i was just wondering what is wrong with the development issue for a working camera. i love everything about aosp roms and was actually considering switching to a nexus 5 just for the pure android experience, but figured i would hold off a little longer to see whats in store this fall with the next nexus or silver or whatever theyre planning on calling it. its a dumb question i know and i just have to be patient. thanks in advance
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devs are working hard for it , and don't forget that this device is only months released its totally new, so as you said you have to be patient and let the devs do their jobs
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I am currently using a Galaxy S5 on t-mobile and cannot wait for cyanogenmod to release a nightly build. I see there are a couple of cyanogen based roms available now but there is no working camera. i was just wondering what is wrong with the development issue for a working camera. i love everything about aosp roms and was actually considering switching to a nexus 5 just for the pure android experience, but figured i would hold off a little longer to see whats in store this fall with the next nexus or silver or whatever theyre planning on calling it. its a dumb question i know and i just have to be patient. thanks in advance
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CM doesn`t even have a stable version for Hammerhead (Nexus 5) as we speak
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CM doesn`t even have a stable version for Hammerhead (Nexus 5) as we speak
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true but a nexus is pure android...which there is no going wrong with. just tired of the touchwiz/samsung control. even after rooted and debloated and custom rom it seems to haunt me. i just must be patient considering the carrier in which i am currently with does not even offer the 32GB version. even more control issues there. alas i will wait
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true but a nexus is pure android...which there is no going wrong with. just tired of the touchwiz/samsung control. even after rooted and debloated and custom rom it seems to haunt me. i just must be patient considering the carrier in which i am currently with does not even offer the 32GB version. even more control issues there. alas i will wait
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I like AOSP too, don`t get me wrong but it becomes boaring to me after some time. And anyone knows Samsung has bloatware installed (which most you can turn off though) so that shouldn`t come as a surprise
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I am currently using a Galaxy S5 on t-mobile and cannot wait for cyanogenmod to release a nightly build. I see there are a couple of cyanogen based roms available now but there is no working camera. i was just wondering what is wrong with the development issue for a working camera. i love everything about aosp roms and was actually considering switching to a nexus 5 just for the pure android experience, but figured i would hold off a little longer to see whats in store this fall with the next nexus or silver or whatever theyre planning on calling it. its a dumb question i know and i just have to be patient. thanks in advance
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The issue is there is no camera module or something. I think it will be fixed reasonably soon but obviously there's no way to say for sure.
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Always wanted a Nexus but availability issues has stopped me. The 6P will be the first Nexus to launch locally and I really want to get it. However, I've heard ParanoidAndroid(fav. custom rom) is no longer in the scene and are working with OnePlus now. What other customs roms are still operating other than Cyanogen? Which would be recommended for Nexus devices? I know PA was more or less exclusively on Nexus/OnePlus devices.
Go look in the nexus 6 section for an idea of what will be here
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akellar said:
Go look in the nexus 6 section for an idea of what will be here
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Nice, why didn't I think of that. I suppose CM is the most popular rom for N6?
Cm would be popular but most ROMs are going to layers instead of cm theme engine as it's native in marshmallow on nexus ... So a lot of ROMs like slim and pure nexus are very popular
6.0 also has native multi task
Pa still has builds but not much going on there as a lot of their big things never got merged
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sacredsoul said:
Always wanted a Nexus but availability issues has stopped me. The 6P will be the first Nexus to launch locally and I really want to get it. However, I've heard ParanoidAndroid(fav. custom rom) is no longer in the scene and are working with OnePlus now. What other customs roms are still operating other than Cyanogen? Which would be recommended for Nexus devices? I know PA was more or less exclusively on Nexus/OnePlus devices.
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Check out Chroma. By far the best Nexus 6 rom and he has bought a 6p and will be updating the rom for it.
Nice rom from what I can tell. Any word if zeph will be updating it to 6P?
EDIT : Seems like he bought a 6P and will be developing for it. Excellent. Might have just confirmed by purchase.
sacredsoul said:
Always wanted a Nexus but availability issues has stopped me. The 6P will be the first Nexus to launch locally and I really want to get it. However, I've heard ParanoidAndroid(fav. custom rom) is no longer in the scene and are working with OnePlus now. What other customs roms are still operating other than Cyanogen? Which would be recommended for Nexus devices? I know PA was more or less exclusively on Nexus/OnePlus devices.
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PA is dead since nexus 4 days.
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ambervals6 said:
PA is dead since nexus 4 days.
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Yea that is sad. Was my favourite custom rom for a long time though curiously, I've never owned a Nexus.
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Nice rom from what I can tell. Any word if zeph will be updating it to 6P?
EDIT : Seems like he bought a 6P and will be developing for it. Excellent. Might have just confirmed by purchase.
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This is excellent news!
There are many nice roms in the Nexus6 section that will be over here. Like Croma, Pure, N6Shamu, etc...
What are the chances of getting Miui?
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Check out Chroma. By far the best Nexus 6 rom and he has bought a 6p and will be updating the rom for it.
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Nice rom from what I can tell. Any word if zeph will be updating it to 6P?
EDIT : Seems like he bought a 6P and will be developing for it. Excellent. Might have just confirmed by purchase.
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I made my purchase the first day in which preorders became available, it'll arrive by October 27-28. Marshmallow will be coming out this week, so I'll be working on Marshmallow when I have the time, Nexus 6 (2014) should start receiving builds and once the 6P arrives (I selected 1 day shipping), I'll start working on making the ROM compatible with N6P which shouldn't be too difficult.
Hope to see you there
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I made my purchase the first day in which preorders became available, it'll arrive by October 27-28. Marshmallow will be coming out this week, so I'll be working on Marshmallow when I have the time, Nexus 6 (2014) should start receiving builds and once the 6P arrives (I selected 1 day shipping), I'll start working on making the ROM compatible with N6P which shouldn't be too difficult.
Hope to see you there
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The 6P will be the first Nexus we will be getting locally but I don't think it will be as fast as the US. I suspect builds will already be out before I get it. Looking forward!:good:
@sacredsoul the roms and development will be endless for 3 to 4 years maybe for the huawei 6p. Endless!
Questions about warranty: Will we lose our warranty status when we root it or flash roms? - SG member here too, waiting for Huawei Singapore to release it
Cfly said:
What are the chances of getting Miui?
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Slim to none....i think they don't even have a phone officially running lollipop ....it never got to n6 because their phones were running kitkat and n6 never had a build of kitkat ...don't hold your breath for it anytime soon
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Rom affect camera functionality Google intended?
I'm new to rooting, does installing a new ROM affect the camera functionality and quality the way google have wanted it from a nexus phone?
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I'm new to rooting, does installing a new ROM affect the camera functionality and quality the way google have wanted it from a nexus phone?
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No, and its app is available on Google Play. Welcome to XDA!
Definitely looking forward to getting back to using custom roms after being unable to with my last 2 phones having a locked bootloader (so they were limited).
Really disappointed Android Pay won't work with Custom Roms, but holding out hope someone will find a workaround.
Chroma and BeansTown(purenexus) ROM would probably be the best top two for customization and stability. And it looks like Chroma ROM will be coming for N6P =]