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I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
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I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
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The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
Same for the Euro N8010 Wifi only version. No dev either...
Entropy512 said:
The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
I'm so looking forward to the boost CM will give to this tablet judging from my experience with CM9 giving new life to my old Galaxy S Epic 4G.
This device should be quite popular with Developers due to the s-pen. I am betting we have roms galore in about 30 days,
We have root already at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152.
It just released, give it time.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
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Apps with the S-Pen SDK - No.
Apps that use the standard ICS Pen APIs - Yes - these are becoming more and more common. PS Touch may even be in this category, I won't know until I've tried. I had a bunch of N7000/I777 stuff to do this past weekend so didn't even start on CM10 bringup.
Built-in features such as stylus gestures and an included note-taking app - There was work started on this, the Note 10.1 will make it more important to get this stuff finished. Google dropping JB kind of put a hold on the "new CM features" stuff as we tried to un-break all the old ones.
Might I just say, it is [email protected] good to see you here, Entropy.
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One thing, as far as CM on the N80xx:
I probably could have had CM booting and mostly working with only a few hours of work. However, there's the "quick way" and there's the "right way". The "quick way" would've gotten my N8013 working without providing any benefit for N8000, and without leveraging I9300 commonality. The "right way" takes quite a bit more time - but leverages commonality with the I9300. I'm REALLY hoping we can use the same smdk4412 kernel source tree as the I9300 with just some patches, as it makes maintenance MUCH easier, but could take some time to initially pull in all the right patches.
Similarly, getting an N8013 device tree would've been easy. Having a "common" tree takes more time but means all N80xx devices will pretty much all be maintained to the same degree. See P51xx/P31xx...
Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Seeing alot of well known Dev's.. This is great and very encouraging. The hardware on this device is awsome, only complan and minor one at that is the screen resolution. In all honesty though it really doesnt bother me much as there ins't much jaggy endges.
As is usual - Whenever Samsung releases a new device (or even a major upgrade to an old device - See I9100 ICS cpufreq derpage which took multiple kernel developers 2-3 weeks to figure out), there's some really derped-up **** in the source.
Right now, any source-built kernel has massive issues with wifi - The SDIO interface just seems to shut down and the chip drops off the face of the earth. This does not happen in the stock kernel.
This one's gonna be a pain in the ass to figure out.
See attached dmesg for an example of the fun...
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Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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So modest
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So modest
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Lol viperboy has no cause for modesty
We look forward to his always excellent work.
I wonder what this will overclock to when they have the kernel figured out?
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HI my note 10.1 is the shw-m480w is the wifi version bough tin korea
how does translates to the other code names so i can flash a custom rom?
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Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
Gilbot said:
It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
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I feel for them
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You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
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I don't seem them releasing an update now with Nexus 7 3G-wifi coming out soon, everybody will jump on it just as they have with wifi Nexus 7
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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True enough.
But when all is said and done.....even stock ROM ICS gives us a damned great tab. We can always hope (delusionally perhaps) Samsung will release a JB update.....but even if not, I quite look forward to years of enjoyment with my 7.7.
i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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In Romania they removed it from the site, and also no support given to it.
This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
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5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
Please write via PM.
You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
Entropy512 said:
Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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g.lewarne said:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
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I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.
Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -
Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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i am not a developer. from what i know from flashing ROMs, phones that have a single chipset (like the HTC one with snapdragon, vs Galaxy S3/S4 tha thad exynos/snapdragon variants) attract more dev support b/c ROMs can be flashed across all carrier versions.
and along with official bootloader unlocking, it appears HTC would attract more devs. i think it will also depend on who releases source code quickly.
again, this is just conjecture based on experience.
I believe I read that HTC already released the source code for the one.
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If I'm not mistaken the galaxy series' are easier to develop for. Having said that I think the one will receive much love just because it's a freakin awesome phone and everybody is going to have on a like Steve.
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It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
A Galaxy series phone is always guaranteed to have a lot of dev support and from the devs already supporting the One, with more to come, this will have great continued support aswell.
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Really should be in the Q&A
But should receive a generous amount of dev. CM creator Steve put out a wonderful review of the unit. I would suspect this and the S4 will be the major units of 2013 dev wise.
No support for exynos devices. Team hacksung already stated that none of them will buy Samsung phones. They are frustrated due to lack of sources. They already moved to Xperia Z.
Of course, snapdragon version will get support
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Also Koush said on G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will have locked bootloaders. It took a lot of work for Adam Outler and others to get the bootloader unlocked for the Note 2 & S3.
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It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
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Most of so called "development" is copying other people's work, changing some icons and other images and zipping it up and making a cwm file. There are very few unique and useful mods.
Once some most glaring problems with a phone are fixed, development's job is finished. The rest is photoshopping and winzipping.
I say HTC One has already recevied almost enough development support. Volume button wake is implemented to fight the stupid power button placement problem. Most ROMs have already removed the annoying menu bar. Once custom kernels solve the rest of the problems like slow charging, what else is needed?
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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nitinvaid said:
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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It doesn't matter if the One has less AOSP ROMs than the S4 because as long as they're both high end phones and both have high quality ROMs to choose from, what else matters?
The One will get plenty of AOSP ROMs anyway. Any phone can be used for this following example;
CM is usually one of the first ROMs to be released on a phone, whether that be officially or unofficially. Once CM hits the device, a lot more ROMs appear because a lot of people base their ROMs right off of CM.
Even if CM isn't one of the first ROMs, the only ROMs we'll really see before it are stock based ROMs just like we have in this forum.
Quality NOT quantity!
And proper development doesn't mean AOSP because it wouldn't exactly be hard for me to make a ROM from an existing AOSP ROM. Just add a few simple features and done. That's not proper development in the slightest.
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Right now Note 3's been out for several months but the development sub-forum's still pretty dead as compared to S4, Note 2, and S3 (which have been out for a longer time). I'm thinking of buying a Note 3, but 3rd-party development is a pretty big factor for me. So I'm just wondering, in the future, will Note 3 development increase? Or will it plateau once the new line of S5 and Note 4 comes out?
fterh said:
Right now Note 3's been out for several months but the development sub-forum's still pretty dead as compared to S4, Note 2, and S3 (which have been out for a longer time). I'm thinking of buying a Note 3, but 3rd-party development is a pretty big factor for me. So I'm just wondering, in the future, will Note 3 development increase? Or will it plateau once the new line of S5 and Note 4 comes out?
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what thread you looking at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/themes-apps
not that bad at all
jaythenut said:
what thread you looking at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/themes-apps
not that bad at all
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It's not bad, compared to some of the more obscure phones in the market
But vs. the no. of threads in the development forum in say, S4 i9505, it pales in comparison, no doubt.
I'm just curious if the level of activity of developers for Note 3 will still increase even after the launch of new phones
fterh said:
It's not bad, compared to some of the more obscure phones in the market
But vs. the no. of threads in the development forum in say, S4 i9505, it pales in comparison, no doubt.
I'm just curious if the level of activity of developers for Note 3 will still increase even after the launch of new phones
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yeah should do
Once a Kitkat kernal source is released etc compatibility with new boot loader and other factors. We will start seeing more and more development and mods. Since Kitkat has been released/leaked it has kinda halted development due to boot loader and kernel. Once devs get a good grip on it boom amazing things will happen
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Once a method to root, install revovery, custom rom, without tripping knox comes along, itll be crazy in here!
This is my first Samsung phone, having previously had various HTC and latterly the Nexus 5.
Given the fact that Note 3 is reported to have sold over 10 million units, I have also been surprised at an apparent deficit in custom roms and general customisation compared to for example HTC One.
I do hope this will improve in time
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Sources for KK were released today, including the Kernel Source.. SO should make things more interesting,
Quality over quantity surely.
With the Note 3 and probably future Samsung devices, Samsung is making them harder to mess with , hence comment a few posts back. Samsung with kitkat has introduced code to make fake s view covers stop working. It's a similar thing to made for Apple, Samsung is starting the same stuff.
Im quite happy with the development for the Note 3!
Got KK running nicely, option of CM, root is working. Lots of nice Xposed modules...
Its all looking nice.
That is for the N9005 though... Not sure about other variants...
Reminds me of a saying " Quantity doesn't represent Quality ! "
I'm quite happy with how things are coming along with the Note 3, I've come from a Note 2 and Galaxy S2 so Yeah i have been used to a mass supply of Roms on previous devices, But currently im testing out the new CM 11 builds ( nightlies) and X-note....Both are Fantastic roms!
My advice would simply be : Buy the Note 3 you wont regret it , You cant look at tech like it'll be supported forever.. just enjoy it whilst its here
Look at all the older devices that are still supported on XDA - Note 2 for example; its bigger brother is out and yet he's still getting some love
I am happy with current development of Note 3.
Lots doesn't means great.
Important is development quality.
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Once a Kitkat kernal source is released etc compatibility with new boot loader and other factors. We will start seeing more and more development and mods. Since Kitkat has been released/leaked it has kinda halted development due to boot loader and kernel. Once devs get a good grip on it boom amazing things will happen
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I see, so you mean that development has slowed down because devs want to wait for kitkat and develop for it?
fterh said:
I see, so you mean that development has slowed down because devs want to wait for kitkat and develop for it?
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I'd say so, Yes.
The good news is Samsung has released there kernel source for Kitkat now it's only a matter of time till we start seeing custom kernels and custom roms with full customisation. Give it less then a week and we will see our first custom kernel for Kitkat then the ball will start rolling
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souljasteve84 said:
The good news is Samsung has released there kernel source for Kitkat now it's only a matter of time till we start seeing custom kernels and custom roms with full customisation. Give it less then a week and we will see our first custom kernel for Kitkat then the ball will start rolling
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Hmm... then how come there are KitKat ROMs for Note 3 (Cyanogenmod nightlies) even before Samsung released the source? From what other posters have replied I gather it's not possible to develop a ROM without access the the kernel?
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Hmm... then how come there are KitKat ROMs for Note 3 (Cyanogenmod nightlies) even before Samsung released the source? From what other posters have replied I gather it's not possible to develop a ROM without access the the kernel?
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Well hmmmm lol yes there are custom kit Kat roms and yes they are great but no custom kernels for kit Kat, for me I am excited about custom kernels more then custom roms. So with the kernel source release kit Kat can finally have custom kernels which is great for development
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souljasteve84 said:
Well hmmmm lol yes there are custom kit Kat roms and yes they are great but no custom kernels for kit Kat, for me I am excited about custom kernels more then custom roms. So with the kernel source release kit Kat can finally have custom kernels which is great for development
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Hmm I'm confused ><
I thought you need the kernel to have a ROM? If the KitKat kernel is not released, how do ppl develop KitKat ROMs? o.o
fterh said:
Hmm I'm confused ><
I thought you need the kernel to have a ROM? If the KitKat kernel is not released, how do ppl develop KitKat ROMs? o.o
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Devs can still develop Kitkat roms but before the kernel source release only stock kernel was and could only be used. Now they can add custom kernels they build to the already built custom roms
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Devs can still develop Kitkat roms but before the kernel source release only stock kernel was and could only be used. Now they can add custom kernels they build to the already built custom roms
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But how do you use the stock kernel without knowing the source? Don't you need the code to be able to incorporate it in your ROM?
Sorry if my questions are silly but I'm not very well versed in the technical aspects of Android