If anyone is paying attention to the main production thread, the post has been edited.
What we've done is dramatically increase the amount of 64GB Sandstone Black models in our production plans, while producing 16GB Silk White as long as they don't delay the time to market for Sandstone Black.
Our production schedule is as follows:
Ready now - 100 for phone smashers
Mid to late May - Larger batch 16GB Silk White for the first batch of invites
Late May to early June - Larger batch 64GB Sandstone Black
Later in June - Increased general availability, people who want it should be able to get an invite without much trouble in June
Update May 6: After seeing how popular the 64GB version was compared to the 16GB, we have pushed back the production of the 16GB Silk White in favor of getting the 64GB Sandstone Black out quicker.
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So, good news for those of you who want to get your hands on the 64.
Great news!! :good: :good: :good:
Quite honestly, I'm angry about the delay of the 16 GB model. However, OnePlus is appealing to the majority of their customers, who want their 64 GB model. But in all honesty, this doesn't make a bit of difference. Chances are incredibly slim that any of us will get one of the early invites in late May/early June. We're all most likely going to get the phone in late June when it is finally given "general availability". And by that time, they should have 16 GB and 64 GB to sell to us. In all likelihood, this is just a marketing tactic to make the company seem more consumer-oriented (which isn't to say they aren't; they're still great in my eyes.) Just my two cents on the situation. The people on the OnePlus forums are practically going to war over which version should be released first. Just keep a level head, and we should all be happy and satisfied by late June
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Quite honestly, I'm angry about the delay of the 16 GB model. However, OnePlus is appealing to the majority of their customers, who want their 64 GB model. But in all honesty, this doesn't make a bit of difference. Chances are incredibly slim that any of us will get one of the early invites in late May/early June. We're all most likely going to get the phone in late June when it is finally given "general availability". And by that time, they should have 16 GB and 64 GB to sell to us. In all likelihood, this is just a marketing tactic to make the company seem more consumer-oriented (which isn't to say they aren't; they're still great in my eyes.) Just my two cents on the situation. The people on the OnePlus forums are practically going to war over which version should be released first. Just keep a level head, and we should all be happy and satisfied by late June
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I agree with you 100% all this is just a strategy from Oneplus and I have my hopes for late June. The early invites will be very difficult to get unless something very odd happens like Oneplus delivering high availability. But I understand that it's a new company with a different marketing approach to what we are used to here in the west.
My gut feeling is it will be screwed initially like it was during initial nexus 4 launch.. Fingers crossed!
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u would still need an invite to buy the 64gb
vineet381 said:
My gut feeling is it will be screwed initially like it was during initial nexus 4 launch.. Fingers crossed!
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Nexus 4 debacle all over again.
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They should've had one version with 32 GB internal storage and a micro SD card slot to avoid these kind of problems.
no they shouldnt have. the production cost between 16gb and 64gb is about $50. if they did a 32gb model, there would be even less of a reason to get that as the price would be closer to the 64gb. since their goal was to get a model phone below $300, having 16gb model alongside the 64gb makes sense. the nexus 5 doesnt have an sd card card reader, and you shouldnt expect a less expensive phone to have it. if you want that functionality, buy an otg adapter. otg exists on phones for a reason.
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no they shouldnt have. the production cost between 16gb and 64gb is about $50. if they did a 32gb model, there would be even less of a reason to get that as the price would be closer to the 64gb. since their goal was to get a model phone below $300, having 16gb model alongside the 64gb makes sense. the nexus 5 doesnt have an sd card card reader, and you shouldnt expect a less expensive phone to have it. if you want that functionality, buy an otg adapter. otg exists on phones for a reason.
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I believe what Invalid-GR is saying is that instead of having 2 models (16 and 64GB) they should have just produced one (32GB with uSD slot.) I would agree. 64GB is good enough for me at this point, but the option of expanding is great to have. Reason I haven't updated to the Moto X, or the G2, or the M7, is the fixed storage mostly. I'm not interested in storing my media files in the cloud and streaming it on demand since I don't always have good cellular access. But this dang SGS2 is on its deathbed!
Personally I feel people need to quit with the complaining, you're getting 64GB for only $50 more. That's still a far better deal than even a Nexus 5 with just 32GB in it. They are a SMALL company, so going with what is more popular and more in demand is the best thing they can do. Why produce a mountain of 16GB when the majority wants the 64GB? I'd understand your complaints if it were against Samsung for not putting out a 32GB S5 for the US ( Which they haven't ). For me I'm going 64GB because it's a better deal all the way around. I wouldn't touch ANY phone with 16GB and no microSD, because that's just too little storage overall anymore. Far as I'm concerned they really should start making the low end storage start at 32GB instead of 16GB.
theyre not going to make a 32gb version cause then it would be about $325-$330 and there would be even less of a reason to buy one. and they are not going to add an sdcard reader for the same reason the nexus's and iphones dont have one.
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Personally I feel people need to quit with the complaining, you're getting 64GB for only $50 more. That's still a far better deal than even a Nexus 5 with just 32GB in it. They are a SMALL company, so going with what is more popular and more in demand is the best thing they can do. Why produce a mountain of 16GB when the majority wants the 64GB? I'd understand your complaints if it were against Samsung for not putting out a 32GB S5 for the US ( Which they haven't ). For me I'm going 64GB because it's a better deal all the way around. I wouldn't touch ANY phone with 16GB and no microSD, because that's just too little storage overall anymore. Far as I'm concerned they really should start making the low end storage start at 32GB instead of 16GB.
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Everything you told is correct. But since one of their major investors is OPPO, they are not small let alone "SMALL". They should ramp up their production and make it available worldwide.
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Everything you told is correct. But since one of their major investors is OPPO, they are not small let alone "SMALL". They should ramp up their production and make it available worldwide.
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Investors mean they are backing them financially, doesn't mean we know how much and to what extent. Investors put their money behind you to do what you can with how much they give. They don't do your work, production, shipping, orders, etc. That's all on you, it's a sink or swim deal there. So if they don't wish to drive the cost of the device up, which it would if everyone here got their way and they did everything a lot of you think they should. Instead of $349 it would be more like $549 or even higher. They're doing everything they can to keep out third party companies, distributors and the like. This keeps the device's cost down considerably. So what they need to do, is continue with what they're doing.
They've already stated that in late June ( Which is just around the corner here ) they will begin to roll out invites much faster as they ramp up production based on demand. Remember, Google had a major disaster on their hands with the Nexus 4. Look how much money that company has, how big they are and yet they still had one of the biggest pre-order muck ups in recent history. So I can understand OnePlus wanting to tread lightly. Problem is, so many people have this me me me disorder. Everything has to be right now, right then or I wont do business with you. You'd think after all this time, we'd learned to have at least a little patience and give others a chance to see if this works or not. Just because a few people get their panties in a bunch, doesn't mean their system doesn't work.
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Investors mean they are backing them financially, doesn't mean we know how much and to what extent. Investors put their money behind you to do what you can with how much they give. They don't do your work, production, shipping, orders, etc. That's all on you, it's a sink or swim deal there. So if they don't wish to drive the cost of the device up, which it would if everyone here got their way and they did everything a lot of you think they should. Instead of $349 it would be more like $549 or even higher. They're doing everything they can to keep out third party companies, distributors and the like. This keeps the device's cost down considerably. So what they need to do, is continue with what they're doing.
They've already stated that in late June ( Which is just around the corner here ) they will begin to roll out invites much faster as they ramp up production based on demand. Remember, Google had a major disaster on their hands with the Nexus 4. Look how much money that company has, how big they are and yet they still had one of the biggest pre-order muck ups in recent history. So I can understand OnePlus wanting to tread lightly. Problem is, so many people have this me me me disorder. Everything has to be right now, right then or I wont do business with you. You'd think after all this time, we'd learned to have at least a little patience and give others a chance to see if this works or not. Just because a few people get their panties in a bunch, doesn't mean their system doesn't work.
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Maybe you got offended. First thing I am happy the way they are working because at least they came up with an idea of a cheap phone with great hardware. They are doing a fair job. Secondly Oneplus is more of a subsidiary company to oppo, that is how much they own it. And I am just a little disappointed that my country did not make it to the first list in spite of it being such a huge market. And people who are complaining have no right to complain since it's all the company's decision to whether launch a phone in a particular market or not or at what price and in what way. I am just hopeful of it's earliest availability to everyone in the future and not just the already listed countries.
No offence bro if I again wrote something offensive.
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Maybe you got offended. First thing I am happy the way they are working because at least they came up with an idea of a cheap phone with great hardware. They are doing a fair job. Secondly Oneplus is more of a subsidiary company to oppo, that is how much they own it. And I am just a little disappointed that my country did not make it to the first list in spite of it being such a huge market. And people who are complaining have no right to complain since it's all the company's decision to whether launch a phone in a particular market or not or at what price and in what way. I am just hopeful of it's earliest availability to everyone in the future and not just the already listed countries.
No offence bro if I again wrote something offensive.
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No no, not offended at all man. Seriously lol it's all good
NinoDolce1 said:
I agree with you 100% all this is just a strategy from Oneplus and I have my hopes for late June. The early invites will be very difficult to get unless something very odd happens like Oneplus delivering high availability. But I understand that it's a new company with a different marketing approach to what we are used to here in the west.
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Between mobile carriers, manufacturers and whoever/whatever marketing strategies; I"m sick of all of them...I could not find any specifications in regards to a microSD expansion slot but at first glance it looks to be pretty good at the $349 price mark for the 64GB device, a solid $300 cheaper than any other 64GB device out there. I'm beginning to believe there is no such thing as a perfect device; too many hands in the cookie jar.
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Between mobile carriers, manufacturers and whoever/whatever marketing strategies; I"m sick of all of them...I could not find any specifications in regards to a microSD expansion slot but at first glance it looks to be pretty good at the $349 price mark for the 64GB device, a solid $300 cheaper than any other 64GB device out there. I'm beginning to believe there is no such thing as a perfect device; too many hands in the cookie jar.
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Yes, you are right like on everything else in life there is no perfect device. This one is really good for this price. I hope this becomes a trend.
Nothing is perfect!
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Between mobile carriers, manufacturers and whoever/whatever marketing strategies; I"m sick of all of them...I could not find any specifications in regards to a microSD expansion slot but at first glance it looks to be pretty good at the $349 price mark for the 64GB device, a solid $300 cheaper than any other 64GB device out there. I'm beginning to believe there is no such thing as a perfect device; too many hands in the cookie jar.
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Yes, you are right like on everything else in life there is no perfect device. This one is really good for this price. I hope this becomes a trend.
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If this phone had a replaceable battery and microSD it'd be perfect to me, even if it cost $100 or 200 more. But these days, it's like most things - there's trade-offs, so nothing's perfect. I'll be looking to get this one and hand down my Nexus 5 to the better-half.
I had hoped to break the root/ROM cycle with the Nexus 5, but alas, it didn't have OTG capability unless it was rooted. I figured, if I've rooted it, might as well go all the way. With the OnePlus One, it should have all I want/need without all the trouble to root and find a good ROM for it.
And those specs for the price is makes it a better value than the Nexus 5! I think a lot of crying about the 16/64GB versions would disappear if they had a white 64GB version for the same price at the black one! I prefer black myself, but some want the white one. Also, the backs are replaceable so there will be some customization there as well. I just hope there's one with a kick-stand!
That's my 2¢!
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If this phone had a replaceable battery and microSD it'd be perfect to me, even if it cost $100 or 200 more. But these days, it's like most things - there's trade-offs, so nothing's perfect.
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It's too bad the Oppo Find 7a or 7 won't play nice with T-Mobile or AT&T USA networks.
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http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1
http://twitter.com/#!/Motorola
Go there and bomb the wall, and tweet their lights out
They need to release the dam wifi version, or announce it THIS WEEK, at no more then 499$
We all just saw the ipad 2 (march 11, 499$)
Not sure if moto just wants to throw away thier sales
but let them know about it, pressure is good
As the saying is right now, if they dont act, apples gonna make more money on smartcovers then moto is on xooms
I don't know. 550 maybe but not 500.
- Full FLash
- 1280 x 800 screen
- SD Card
- USB Hosting
- 1G RAM
Even if iPad is a better selling more desired product, 550 - 600 sounds right. 500 would just be to compete, but the extra specs and capabilities warrant a 550 - 600 price tag.
Unfortunately, most people don't care about the better specs. But Moto can't just give those away.
fair enough, id happily dish out 550
but they need to announce the dam thing, and get it on the shelves
Totally agree. They are losing shares and sales as we speak.
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http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1
Go there and bomb the wall,
They need to release the dam wifi version, or announce it THIS WEEK, at no more then 499$
We all just saw the ipad 2 (march 11, 499$)
Not sure if moto just wants to throw away thier sales
but let them know about it, pressure is good
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1
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I am sure they are aware of what is going on with their competition. They already have a UK WiFi only model about to be released and there were even leaked ads with pre-order info. They also already announced a WiFi only for US around $600 coming. We all want things now. I waited over a year to get a Honeycomb tablet and it was worth the wait. Google should have anticipated this earlier and had this out last year. I think their mistake was spending too much time and resources on ChromeOS which I have zero interest in. But here we are, the beginning of an exciting year of Android tablets and Honeycomb.
I obviously know they're aware, not sure if I came off that way
What I went is let them know the customers are demanding something or else theyll lose them for being complacent
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I am sure they are aware of what is going on with their competition. They already have a UK WiFi only model about to be released and there were even leaked ads with pre-order info. They also already announced a WiFi only for US around $600 coming. We all want things now. I waited over a year to get a Honeycomb tablet and it was worth the wait. Google should have anticipated this earlier and had this out last year. I think their mistake was spending too much time and resources on ChromeOS which I have zero interest in. But here we are, the beginning of an exciting year of Android tablets and Honeycomb.
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The UK announcement is 499 pounds (aka 800 USD)..so thats useless
and ya we heard theres a US one around 600, but NOTHING official or no report from them, just saying, if ur gonna release a tablet ONLY to verizon for 800$..and google wants to get Gingerbread out there, why the hell not make it available to everyone.
Its a TABLET not a PHONE, why tie it with a friggin provider
Just saying iPad 2 is gonna have the edge here if they dont act
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I obviously know they're aware, not sure if I came off that way
What I went is let them know the customers are demanding something or else theyll lose them for being complacent
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I am sure we will have a wifi only version of the Xoom next month. But what we really need is for some of these other companies to get their stuff out as well so their are more choices and competition. It seems like Google decided to give Motorola all the love for the first honeycomb tablet which is why we are not seeing any others release now. This may have been to fine tune the OS before making it more widely available to others, I don't know for sure. But the bottom line is, Honeycomb tablets are not going away and I suspect we will see so many by the end of the year it will be difficult to decide which to buy.
Moto CEO said the US wifi version would be $600. He sounds reliable to me...
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If they (Google + Manufacturer) want to win the tablet war, they must do drastic movement: Sell them CHEAP! As cheap as possible ...
Don't take too much profit, break even is OK, even lost!
Just take a lot of users whatever the cost is!
Then pump the apps apps and apps as much as possible.
For sure, this will win the tablet war.
About loosing money, if I remember correctly, Microsoft did not make any profit on the earlier Xbox/360. And they are now very competitive.
PRICE IS EVERYTHING for this LEVEL of device. Remember, PRICE is the key for users to buy tablet.
With less money, people can buy iPad 2 which is more or less the same "experience" to use AND has tons of very good quality of apps.
Set aside that SD Card slot (iPad has 64GB model) and OS customization. Those are nice, but for majority they are less important. They dont stare for hours in the home screen!
Come on Google, you can do it.
DatterBoy said:
I don't know. 550 maybe but not 500.
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- 1280 x 800 screen
- SD Card
- USB Hosting
- 1G RAM
Even if iPad is a better selling more desired product, 550 - 600 sounds right. 500 would just be to compete, but the extra specs and capabilities warrant a 550 - 600 price tag.
Unfortunately, most people don't care about the better specs. But Moto can't just give those away.
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Moto CEO said the US wifi version would be $600. He sounds reliable to me...
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Moto CEO has said that wifi-only Xoom will be around $600. That's pretty reliable, but by no means cast in stone. Another pricing signal is the the UK pre-order peep, which was for £500, or close to $600 US once the 20% VAT is removed.
That said, iPad2 is the undisputed tablet leader, and with the Xoom's dearth of software support (and missing features, like SD slot and Flash), having a price higher than the base iPad price is a death knell, especially with other cheaper Honeycomb alternatives on tap.
Come April, I'd expect the wifi Xoom to be toeing the $500 price point, as will many of the so-called premium vendors (HTC, Samsung, et al). Other vendors like Acer & Dell, who don't have smartphone offerings to protect their pricing, will be cheaper, and with the same specs.
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The UK announcement is 499 pounds (aka 800 USD)..so thats useless
and ya we heard theres a US one around 600, but NOTHING official or no report from them, just saying, if ur gonna release a tablet ONLY to verizon for 800$..and google wants to get Gingerbread out there, why the hell not make it available to everyone.
Its a TABLET not a PHONE, why tie it with a friggin provider
Just saying iPad 2 is gonna have the edge here if they dont act
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Sorry to correct you, but you can't just do a straight conversion in price from GBP to USD and call it a day. There is a VAT etc. in the UK and the prices are inflated. Take about 20%-25% off the price and you'll be more in the ballpark of what the US will pay for the WiFi version. $600USD sounds about right, $200 less than the 3G version. I would not be surprised at all (well, maybe a little) if the WiFi version also coincides with a 3G/4G price drop.
I agree with what you're saying and I don't think you're alone. Motorola will notice (or has noticed already) that they're gonna get slaughtered if they don't have a WiFi version, and dont lower the prices to be AT LEAST competitive, if not undercutting, the competition. And they gotta do it like yesterday.
I want to be positive and say that Motorola know what they're doing, but the way that they launched only the 3G version with no word on the WiFi one is just sad. My theory, which I don't think is any secret, is that Verizon has Motorola by the balls, and is trying to get as much out of the 3G version as possible before the WiFi comes out. They wanna ride the wave and the early adopters and then let the WiFi out. There is no single manufacturing reason why the WiFi model isn't ready right now. Its on their freaking product webpage ffs (along with the GSM variant I might add) lol.
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Come April, I'd expect the wifi Xoom to be toeing the $500 price point, as will many of the so-called premium vendors (HTC, Samsung, et al). Other vendors like Acer & Dell, who don't have smartphone offerings to protect their pricing, will be cheaper, and with the same specs.
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I really hope so, for Motorola's sake. That $499 price point is one that gives you way more exposure than anything. Like I said I think they're trying to ride the "first honeycomb tablet" wave until they get shafted by iPad 2 and the other 3.0 tablets coming out, then they'll play ball and maybe get some decent sales numbers.
I've said before that I'm 100% willing to hand Motorola (or Samsung/LG, for that matter) $600 right now for the WiFi version of this type of tablet, but I'm not gonna overpay for the 3G version I'm not gonna use. The $500 point just has to happen for general consumers to put it next to the iPad though.
Youre right about the price. The price isnt what concerns me. Its just the availability and lack of announcements
I agree with you, Verizon has them by the balls
And thats why you dont give your tablet to a frigin provider
Like The iPad just goes right to bestbuy, brilliance
..idiots @moto
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Youre right about the price. The price isnt what concerns me. Its just the availability and lack of announcements
I agree with you, Verizon has them by the balls
And thats why you dont give your tablet to a frigin provider
Like The iPad just goes right to bestbuy, brilliance
..idiots @moto
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The one thing that Apple gets right is they don't late carriers push them around with the iPad. They sell it directly from Apple.com either the WiFi version or 3G with no strings attached and if u wanna activate later you can. No carrier BS. Not to mention that the 3G and WiFi versions go on sale the same exact day lol.
Motorola is getting blown up hard over their pricing and availability of different models/versions. I think they probably would've started selling the WiFi now if it weren't for other pressures/commitments.
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I don't know. 550 maybe but not 500.
- Full FLash
- 1280 x 800 screen
- SD Card
- USB Hosting
- 1G RAM
Even if iPad is a better selling more desired product, 550 - 600 sounds right. 500 would just be to compete, but the extra specs and capabilities warrant a 550 - 600 price tag.
Unfortunately, most people don't care about the better specs. But Moto can't just give those away.
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Add to this from what I have read GPS even in the wifi model!
Motorola just lost me. I'm returning my xoom and I'll wait for whatever WiFi options come later down the road. I won't buy Apple. Motorola needs to get their [email protected] straight. Too pricey and lack of options will be their demise. Give people what they want.
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With the 32GB iPad 2 releasing at $599 Moto has to match or beat that price. You can guarantee they will do that. $550 would be a big win for Moto and the customers.
Even at the lower price and added hardware specs the device still will not even come close to what Apple will see in sales. One thing Apple has done well and continues to do well is advertise. This unfortunately is where Moto is lacking with the Xoom. Superbowl commercial was nice and money well spent. But what have we seen since then? If you stopped 30 random people on the street and asked them what a Motorola Xoom was, maybe 15 of 30 would know. You would be hard pressed to find someone who did not know what an iPad was. Every night when I am watching the tube, I see that damn iPad commercial with the annoying piano in the background. Moto needs to take a risk and pour some funds in to advertisement. They now have a solid piece of hardware to compete with Apple. Let the rest of the world know that and get aggressive with your attack.
I don't think $550-$600 is too much to ask for this fine piece of hardware and if they want to make an attempt to keep up with the competition, Moto needs to get the WiFi only version out fast. Next Friday is coming up quick and still no word from Moto on a US release date. :/
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With the 32GB iPad 2 releasing at $599 Moto has to match or beat that price. You can guarantee they will do that. $550 would be a big win for Moto and the customers.
Even at the lower price and added hardware specs the device still will not even come close to what Apple will see in sales. One thing Apple has done well and continues to do well is advertise. This unfortunately is where Moto is lacking with the Xoom. Superbowl commercial was nice and money well spent. But what have we seen since then? If you stopped 30 random people on the street and asked them what a Motorola Xoom was, maybe 15 of 30 would know. You would be hard pressed to find someone who did not know what an iPad was. Every night when I am watching the tube, I see that damn iPad commercial with the annoying piano in the background. Moto needs to take a risk and pour some funds in to advertisement. They now have a solid piece of hardware to compete with Apple. Let the rest of the world know that and get aggressive with your attack.
I don't think $550-$600 is too much to ask for this fine piece of hardware and if they want to make an attempt to keep up with the competition, Moto needs to get the WiFi only version out fast. Next Friday is coming up quick and still no word from Moto on a US release date. :/
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In the past week I've seen a lot of xoom commercials, far more than iPad, although I'm sure my brain has tuned them out by now.
That vendetta one is on every hour.
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Title says it all. Motorola went the way of exploitation and took the cheap route of superficial marketing to rush a half baked device to market at the expense of it's customers. Trying to put the final touchs on their Frankenstein creation people received their xooms unsealed and in essence unguarded. People have reported sending in their malfunctioning devices only to met with refusal because of "water damage" even though the seal on the purchase was already removed when they received it. Motorola reps at CES repeatedly said that the xoom would be upgradable to 4g soon after release, some saying 40 days, some saying 2 months, some saying whatever - all being false. SD card support has never been honored even though other tablets like the transformer with fundamentally identical specs have delivered since day one. Now Samsung is offering the same thing in thinner form factor for almost 300 dollars less - and we can only assume it will actually be WORKING also.
And if all this isn't bad enough we see that while Motorola had no problem taking large sums of money on false pretenses they simultaneously had no shame about neglecting original xoom owners and developing a second xoom in the meantime that is nothing more than a working version of what they promised the first would be. Pathetic.
They are striving hard for recognition as the biggest piece of **** company in the android game and judging by the recent reports of their stock value, it seems they are successful at something. Seriously it is not rocket science. False advertising, ****ty support (or none at all), zero accountability, no remorse or attempt for compensation or consumer confidence, equals a ****ty company that loses value in a competative market. Someone over there needs to take their heads out of their ass. A child can understand this.
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Oh my god just $550 and no contract? I wouldn't mind prepaid 4g data from verzion....
Europe has SD card support, and since it's not a GED that makes me suspect that the problem with SD card support is more of a Google issue than a Moto issue.
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Not yet, Motorola posted at Facebook that they will roll out the 3.1 Update with SD soon for EU... But what is soon? 2 weeks? 2 months?
Nobody received a update yet...
They shafted a lot of people. I have the WiFi only model so I don't apply. That sucks for everyone else though.
Does it suck? Yes. Motorola sold the Xoom on promises. But nowhere on the Box or on any advertisements did they say when LTE would be given out and nowhere in the advertisements was the SD card slot mentioned. So although you feel like you have been taken advantage of, you need to take some personal responsibility. You purchased an unfinished product willingly.
My response is that I will no longer buy Motorola products.
First this is not a personal attack on anyone, but I have to say that ALL of us bought this device well knowing that some of the features were still in developement. I have not seen anyone present actual evidence of Motorola committing to any specific dates as to when these features would be added. If you have evidence please share as I am sure there are many people who would like to see it.
Moto was first out of the gate with a HC tablet, if they had waited until everything was done it still would not have shipped and the same people who are blasting Motorola now for unsupported features would be the same people screaming that they were late to market. The US Xoom is a GED device, so the SD support is fully in Google's hands. As for the LTE upgrade, I have a WiFi Xoom so I really can not comment any more than what I have already said. In this type of market there really are not too many options.
1) Ship something with less features to be first or earlier to the market
2) Wait for the features to be fully supported and be late to the market
3) Ship the unit with full hardware support but lacking full software support so that features can be enabled in future SW updates.
It comes down to which one of these options satisfies the most people. I personally think they made the right choice, but everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. Now do I believe Moto needs to reduce the pricing to compete, of course. But I am sure that as soon as they reduce prices, people will be *****ing about that too. There is ALWAYS a premium for buying the first of anything, especially in the technology market.
Me personally, I like my Xoom and after reading reviews of the Samsung given the option to choose I would stick with the Xoom. Is it heavier - absolutely, is it more robust/durable - absolutely, is it going to get Adroid updates faster and for a longer period of time - most likely.
Regarding the point of them already designing a next generation Xoom, that is what companies have to do to stay competitive. There will ALWAYS be something newer/better/cheaper on the horizon and I would be more pissed off if they were not working on the next best thing.
Does it suck that something we all just spent good $$$ on a few months ago is not the "best" thing anymore, sure but that is how it goes.
I dont feel bad about my purchase...the cost of being an early adopter...also i dont care what anyone says...that Tab feels cheap as hell. My xoom feels bullet proof. Apple was able to make a thin device feel solid but like their phones, cameras, and big screen TV...the tab feels very plasticy and cheap. Just my opinion. I still love my xoom despite all this other stuff that comes out.
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Oh my god just $550 and no contract? I wouldn't mind prepaid 4g data from verzion....
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Where are you seeing that. I see $529 with a contract.
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Does it suck? Yes. Motorola sold the Xoom on promises. But nowhere on the Box or on any advertisements did they say when LTE would be given out and nowhere in the advertisements was the SD card slot mentioned. So although you feel like you have been taken advantage of, you need to take some personal responsibility. You purchased an unfinished product willingly.
My response is that I will no longer buy Motorola products.
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I am aware that they didn't commit to a "specific" date. Although if you followed CES where the xoom was debuted you will have heard Motorola reps offering all sorts of unofficial etas (all of which have come and gone). Regardless, misleading and dishonest advertising doesn't depend on them specifying a date. While they have said things like "by the end of Q2" (which was yesterday for anyone following) the practical truth is that when you offer a service in a fast moving market where a devices life cycle of relevance can be as little as 6 to 8 months (hence the new xoom 4g already on the horizon and quadcore chips becoming standard before the end of the year) you only have a certain window of oppertunity to deliver in a manner that represents the market you are trying to succeed in. To turn around and crawl under technicalities like, "we never promised you a certain date" becomes just a bold affirmation of ones own incompetence and utter lack of comprehension of the role that consumer trust plays in the role of your business. Look at apple. They have the most loyal fanbase, so much so that people buy their **** on principle without thinking, and while they shaft them on price, specs, and basic functionalities - they don't leave them out to dry when it comes to support.
As far as the SD card goes, go to Motorola's site. It is one of the specs advertised.
Someone can try to portray this as my own personal unjustified gripe but objectivity speaking these are business practices that will tarnish anyone's reputation and make people hesitant to buy their ****. I don't control that, it stems from common sense.
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The SD card issue on the US GED is a Google issue, everyone else is adding it aside from Google, so they need to answer this question. I don't think it's a huge issue though, it has 32GB of storage and I'm happy with that.
As for all the other complaints, yes, Moto are lying ****s, this isn't even a matter of debate anymore. But I still like my Xoom and I'm glad I bought it.
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Where are you seeing that. I see $529 with a contract.
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Oh....
Sorry lol
I will just say that I was disappointed to hear that the micro SD slot is excluded in the S6. At first, this was a huge detractor if not game over in my mind. Then I got to considering. One reason (not the only reason mind you) that I can't stand Apple (yes I owned and used an iPhone for 2 years), is that you are stuck with 16gb of storage, and it costs literally 100 bucks to upgrade higher in exponential increments.
When I first heard no micro SD in s6, my mind immediately assumed Samsung would follow this model, which is borderline extortion. Then it occurred to me. The price on the S6 is not yet known. There is no reason to assume Samsung will opt to gouge us for a $100 just to get a lousy 32 extra gb, or worse, $200 to get up to 128. They may not choose to follow such a brutal course. The extra gb may only cost an extra 25-50 bucks, which is priced similar to what it might cost to get an SD card. If so, no micro SD really becomes no big deal at all... I could not find any pricing figures online though.
Anyone have any idea what this device is going to cost relative to storage capacity?
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I will just say that I was disappointed to hear that the micro SD slot is excluded in the S6. At first, this was a huge detractor if not game over in my mind. Then I got to considering. One reason (not the only reason mind you) that I can't stand Apple (yes I owned and used an iPhone for 2 years), is that you are stuck with 16gb of storage, and it costs literally 100 bucks to upgrade higher in exponential increments.
When I first heard no micro SD in s6, my mind immediately assumed Samsung would follow this model, which is borderline extortion. Then it occurred to me. The price on the S6 is not yet known. There is no reason to assume Samsung will opt to gouge us for a $100 just to get a lousy 32 extra gb, or worse, $200 to get up to 128. They may not choose to follow such a brutal course. The extra gb may only cost an extra 25-50 bucks, which is priced similar to what it might cost to get an SD card. If so, no micro SD really becomes no big deal at all... I could not find any pricing figures online though.
Anyone have any idea what this device is going to cost relative to storage capacity?
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You can always use otg pendrive to expand your memory....
Here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Seller-S...208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce89799e8
Lol extortion.
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Lol extortion.
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Well.. what would you call it?
There is certainly no extortion going on between the Samsung camp and you, the consumer. There are no threats being made, and no one is forcing anyone to do anything, since the HTC, LG, Sony, and Motorola are offering devices that have expandable storage. You can just choose to pass on the S6, and go with a competitor. I have zero brand loyalty, because I want to go with what suits my needs the best. But, I digress...
I hope Samsung uses the Google strategy when pricing out their storage capacities. There is usually a $50 gap between each bump in storage. With carrier subsidies, I could easily see this going for $200-300 on contract, depending on capacity. What we will find, as was the case with the unlocked versions, is the US branded models will retail for a lower price than the unlocked versions that will be available soon.
It's business man. That's what it boils down to. Am I bummed about the no sd card? Yeah I am. But in my s5 I only have an old ass 16 gb sd card. The only time I use any vast amount of storage is when I'm backing up and downloading roms. I get the a lot of android and Samsung enthusiasts are pretty hurt right now. But to be honest they don't care, they have made their decisions. It's irreversible until they decide to change their mind. All this *****ing and moaning is not accomplishing anything but clogging the forum up with displeased with would be purchasers.
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There is certainly no extortion going on between the Samsung camp and you, the consumer. There are no threats being made, and no one is forcing anyone to do anything, since the HTC, LG, Sony, and Motorola are offering devices that have expandable storage. You can just choose to pass on the S6, and go with a competitor. I have zero brand loyalty, because I want to go with what suits my needs the best. But, I digress...
I hope Samsung uses the Google strategy when pricing out their storage capacities. There is usually a $50 gap between each bump in storage. With carrier subsidies, I could easily see this going for $200-300 on contract, depending on capacity. What we will find, as was the case with the unlocked versions, is the US branded models will retail for a lower price than the unlocked versions that will be available soon.
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I was not calling it extortion on Samsung's part, more so on Apples, but yeah, extortion is too big of a word. Price gouging is better. Bottom line, charging 100 bucks for something that should cost 15, just because you can, is a bit bully-ish and as a consumer I can say it is a huge turn off. Put another way, when I'm standing in Disneyland eating a 7 dollar corn dog, I don't tip my hat touché to Disney as a company for their brilliant business model. Yes, I chose to enter into their magic kingdom, no one forced me. It still pisses me off though, gives the corn dog a bad after taste, and well.. #[email protected] you know what I am saying.
If you read my OP correctly, what I was basically saying is that it is not necessarily the end just yet. We still do not know how much these things are going to cost. Samsung could still surprise us and elect to only charge a fair margin for the extra storage. Yes, that does not fix everything. You still don't have separate storage for loading ROMS, etc., but as Sunny pointed out, there are some ways around that via external usb storage. If Samsung prices their models fairly, based on current market prices, then I'm saying that I am still in the game with this device. If they follow Apple's practice of charging 100 bucks extra for a lousy 16gb, then I'll be looking for greener pastures...
For instance.. If Samsung comes out with the 32gb S6 for 200 bucks like other companies, but... they elect to only charge 250 for the 64gb model, and maybe 299 for the 128, then I believe they will win over the masses.
Agreed
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For instance.. If Samsung comes out with the 32gb S6 for 200 bucks like other companies, but... they elect to only charge 250 for the 64gb model, and maybe 299 for the 128, then I believe they will win over the masses.
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There is no reason to assume Samsung will opt to gouge us for a $100 just to get a lousy 32 extra gb, or worse, $200 to get up to 128. They may not choose to follow such a brutal course. The extra gb may only cost an extra 25-50 bucks, which is priced similar to what it might cost to get an SD card. If so, no micro SD really becomes no big deal at all... I could not find any pricing figures online though.
Anyone have any idea what this device is going to cost relative to storage capacity?
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Actually, there is. There are a few elements called history, capitalism, and big business.
Now what we actually don't have is any reason to assume they WON'T milk every dollar out of this. That would be the abnormal path.
So while they may not, the reality is that they probably will.
I agree!
Damn.. you have a point there.
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Actually, there is. There are a few elements called history, capitalism, and big business.
Now what we actually don't have is any reason to assume they WON'T milk every dollar out of this. That would be the abnormal path.
So while they may not, the reality is that they probably will.
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Corps are evil... this is (I thought) widely known.
S6, sd-card, removable battery - petition
musiclover7 said:
I will just say that I was disappointed to hear that the micro SD slot is excluded in the S6. At first, this was a huge detractor if not game over in my mind. Then I got to considering. One reason (not the only reason mind you) that I can't stand Apple (yes I owned and used an iPhone for 2 years), is that you are stuck with 16gb of storage, and it costs literally 100 bucks to upgrade higher in exponential increments.
When I first heard no micro SD in s6, my mind immediately assumed Samsung would follow this model, which is borderline extortion. Then it occurred to me. The price on the S6 is not yet known. There is no reason to assume Samsung will opt to gouge us for a $100 just to get a lousy 32 extra gb, or worse, $200 to get up to 128. They may not choose to follow such a brutal course. The extra gb may only cost an extra 25-50 bucks, which is priced similar to what it might cost to get an SD card. If so, no micro SD really becomes no big deal at all... I could not find any pricing figures online though.
Anyone have any idea what this device is going to cost relative to storage capacity?
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We should start a petition on Change.org and see how many people really want these features back. From all the forums, it appears people really miss those features, but the feedback is really scattered. Consolidating them to one spot would be interesting.
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We should start a petition on Change.org and see how many people really want these features back. From all the forums, it appears people really miss those features, but the feedback is really scattered. Consolidating them to one spot would be interesting.
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https://www.change.org/p/samsung-we...f-back-to-the-galaxy-series?just_created=true
It is exactly apple model, 100 euro difference per memory configuration
http://www.pdashop.nl/zoeken?searchfilter=shopid:2&query=galaxy+S6+
I use a lot of gig on my device 64 gigs already used up. If you have a little kid and a parent we tend to take pictures of everything so not everyone use a lot of storage but most parents do and having a SD card does give you options. The only way I could get this device is if sprint offer the 128 gig model which I'm not sure if they will . worse case I'll just grab the g4, of gflex 2 until the note 5 comes out. My nexus6 64 gig can't keep storage for nothing fills up fast .
24 Hours usage review with the HTC One M9.
youtu.be/5uQzi3Inm2o
The most viable option at the moment. Imagine that 128 GB + of storage potential plus whichever size you buy at the start.
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New device means insane prices, hopefully the price wars between the different places that are offering them will give the people that are still getting the S6 a good deal.
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When I had a Nexus 5 as my daily driver, I purchased an USB OTG cable as a way of adding expandable storage (I purchased the necessary app to allow the usage of OTG cables....I was not rooted). I never ended up using it. Not because I didn't want to, but because I didn't have a need to. I know my usage patterns are different than others, but I know if I were worried about running out of space, and I absolutely had to have a galaxy s device, I'd go with USB OTG.
I still don't understand brand loyalty, though. If the M9 takes great pictures with the final release software, I'll probably get that (the LG G series excites me as well). Plus, I prefer on screen buttons, with the exception of the home button on the samsung devices. I use that to wake the phone almost exclusively. But if the camera on the S6 is really as amazing as Samsung is touting it to be, I'll get that and make due with the shortcomings.
It's a big difference
Big big problem.... i think the note edge is the way to go instead.... bigger screen and and an SD card.
I'm sure many were like me, and after the announcement the 6P sounded amazing and you knew that if you didn't order it right away it would likely be sold out for months. Now that some time has past and we've seen some hands on, are you still going to keep your pre-order or cancel and wait for more reviews or a price drop?
I have the G4 currently and I keep going back and forth. If I was in the market for either the 6P would be the clear winner, but the fact that I have to sell my G4 and likely take a ~$200 hit on the swap, it makes me think twice.
I don't mean this to sound rude, but I fear it might come off a bit rude, but this is kind of a dumb question, if you ordered it, you should have only ordered it if you wanted it. Nothing has happened since it was released that makes it any less desirable, so why would people cancel? I saw the announcement live and watched hands on before I ordered, I knew what I was getting when I clicked order.
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I don't mean this to sound rude, but I fear it might come off a bit rude, but this is kind of a dumb question, if you ordered it, you should have only ordered it if you wanted it. Nothing has happened since it was released that makes it any less desirable, so why would people cancel? I saw the announcement live and watched hands on before I ordered, I knew what I was getting when I clicked order.
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No i agree, op sounds ignorant. To the op you wont feel the way you do if you made a conscious and educated purchase. sounds like you may have made an emotional buy.
kaoss_11 said:
No i agree, op sounds ignorant. To the op you wont feel the way you do if you made a conscious and educated purchase. sounds like you may have made an emotional buy.
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If you read my post, you'll see that's exactly what I said. During the announcement they talk up all these features to make you really want the device, and then when pre-orders opened up right afterwards you had to make a choice whether to buy it then or potentially wait months if the previous Nexus launches followed the same path this time.
The leaks on this device were more geysers than drips. In other words, everyone already knew everything, and the presentation was just confirmation. Even then, you had nearly an hour (from the time they stopped talking about Nexus) before you could really pre-order, giving everyone plenty of time to think about it first. Emotional impulse-buys were probably very minimal.
Op, not a bad question. I made an educated decision before I pulled the trigger on my pre order. I watched every Hands on video on YouTube, read as much as I could. I knew before hand that there was no wireless charging (metal body?) , no OSI and fast charging is questionable. So I know what I'm getting into and the n6p still sounds compelling!
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Wait.. What. Why would anyone cancel their order? I was blown away by the release, and even moreso after the reddit AMA
the poll says it all
The features they "talked" up at the presentation seem to be panning out nicely in the hands on reviews. No foreseeable reason to cancel.
I buy and sell phones quite often, I actually am returning the iPhone 6s that I got to see what it was like (it was horrible haha). I was just curious if anyone else was like me where they buy phones on impulse and if any had already cancelled their orders.
Im giving the MS 950XL a chance to win my business, but pretty sure I'll keep the 6P at this point.
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I buy and sell phones quite often, I actually am returning the iPhone 6s that I got to see what it was like (it was horrible haha). I was just curious if anyone else was like me where they buy phones on impulse and if any had already cancelled their orders.
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I think cancelling a pre-order is very different from buying a phone only to see how it works. The former does not really impact the selling cost and margin manufacturers have to add to recoup that cost. The latter does.
In the specific case of the 6P I don't think a person is "ignorant" for canceling a pre-order. Yes, Google provided quite a bit of information about the 6P. But, since release there have been legitimate questions about the quality of the panel, the quality of the camera, etc. Also, between release and when it starts shipping, other phones have and will come out.
Definitely, the 6P is the way to go for most of the people who've pre-ordered. Great for them. But that does not mean people who end up canceling are demonstrating their ignorance.
i hope all the 64gb graphite users cancel so I get mine sooner
geoff5093 said:
I buy and sell phones quite often, I actually am returning the iPhone 6s that I got to see what it was like (it was horrible haha). I was just curious if anyone else was like me where they buy phones on impulse and if any had already cancelled their orders.
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What's your opinion on the 3d touch feature? I haven't been able to find an unbiased opinion on it. Most people over at /r/Apple think it's the greatest thing ever.
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I'm sure many were like me, and after the announcement the 6P sounded amazing and you knew that if you didn't order it right away it would likely be sold out for months. Now that some time has past and we've seen some hands on, are you still going to keep your pre-order or cancel and wait for more reviews or a price drop?
I have the G4 currently and I keep going back and forth. If I was in the market for either the 6P would be the clear winner, but the fact that I have to sell my G4 and likely take a ~$200 hit on the swap, it makes me think twice.
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I get what you meant when you said that you had to order it right away.
I thought it was going to sell out in like 30 seconds so I said buy now and think about it later. Which I have done now and decided to stick with my decision. So far the initial impressions look good. Waiting for a full review from MHBHD, Android Authority and Pocket now which will probably take another month I'm guessing.
Coming from a Moto X Pure btw
I got it from Amazon with prime so I can keep returning it until I get the N6P
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What's your opinion on the 3d touch feature? I haven't been able to find an unbiased opinion on it. Most people over at /r/Apple think it's the greatest thing ever.
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I bought a 6s Plus to give it a trial run, since my Nexus 6 busted and needed a device. I like to float between android and iOS.
The 3D Touch is actually kind of fun. Once it becomes more used in apps by developers, I can see it having a lot of power. It does feel very intuitive and gives a good flow to using the device. I will give it to Apple on the 3D Touch and A9 chip. The "Live Photos" thing is okay, doesn't work as fully advertised. If you have kids or pets you always photograph, then I can see it being useful, but Google introduced their version during the 6p launch with Burst Photos. Hope this helps.
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I'm sure many were like me, and after the announcement the 6P sounded amazing and you knew that if you didn't order it right away it would likely be sold out for months. Now that some time has past and we've seen some hands on, are you still going to keep your pre-order or cancel and wait for more reviews or a price drop?
I have the G4 currently and I keep going back and forth. If I was in the market for either the 6P would be the clear winner, but the fact that I have to sell my G4 and likely take a ~$200 hit on the swap, it makes me think twice.
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Long time no see buddy. From the Dell Streak 7 days?!? =)
Or I could be mistaken.
I did the same thing. Buy it now and think more later.
For reasons like my previous bad experience with another Nexus device , including becoming a flashing whore. Thirsty for ROMs and spend way too much time doing non meaningful stuff. Sometimes a little curb on playing toys aint a bad thing
Plus 128GB 6p is quite expensive, after I saw closer my current credit card bill.
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fatboypup said:
i hope all the 64gb graphite users cancel so I get mine sooner
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Hopefully I helped you or someone get their 64GB graphite sooner!
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I bought a 6s Plus to give it a trial run, since my Nexus 6 busted and needed a device. I like to float between android and iOS.
The 3D Touch is actually kind of fun. Once it becomes more used in apps by developers, I can see it having a lot of power. It does feel very intuitive and gives a good flow to using the device. I will give it to Apple on the 3D Touch and A9 chip. The "Live Photos" thing is okay, doesn't work as fully advertised. If you have kids or pets you always photograph, then I can see it being useful, but Google introduced their version during the 6p launch with Burst Photos. Hope this helps.
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3d touch is nothing new.... Android has had this feature for years. The difference is Apple's is hardware based, and Android is software. Most developers don't take advantage of it but it's there...
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Just cancelled my 6p 128gb graphite w/ Nexus Protect. The biggest reasons were 6p's band 12 would need T-Mobile's certification, and even if certified band 12 might not give the improvements that I hoped for. I pre-ordered b/c I was afraid that 6p would get sold out. But then I found it hard to justify $800 when my OPO is still plenty fast and a new N6 64gb can be had for $370.
Can anyone verify if this version has 6GB of ram like the Chinese counterparts???
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Can anyone verify if this version has 6GB of ram like the Chinese counterparts???
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There are only 2 variants, 4/64 and 6/128. So yes, it will be 6gb
HTC has confirmed the US Unlocked 128GB also has 4GB of RAM. Kinda of letdown and not worth the extra 80 since it's just an internal storage increase
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HTC has confirmed the US Unlocked 128GB also has 4GB of RAM. Kinda of letdown and not worth the extra 80 since it's just an internal storage increase
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Chat reps are clueless. Android Police confirmed with HTC that it is 6/128.
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HTC has confirmed the US Unlocked 128GB also has 4GB of RAM. Kinda of letdown and not worth the extra 80 since it's just an internal storage increase
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yup, might as well use the money difference to buy a 128GB or 256GB microSD that works as internal storage in Nougat
coincidently that's how I have mine setup, added 128 GB (Samsung EVO+ Pro super fast) for a total of 192 GB storage
can't find a reputable 25 6GB anywhere. I don't trust those that claims to be 256 GB from eBay and similar places
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yup, might as well use the money difference to buy a 128GB or 256GB microSD that works as internal storage in Nougat
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I actually ended up calling them and it took them a bit to confirm it will ship with 6GB of RAM. Im returning the solar red and upgraded to the 6/128 model. They said other color variants would surface in about 3 weeks. But as other users have stated, HTC is not the most reliable when coming from customer and chat support. So I'll take it with a grain of salt. If any other user hear wishes to upgrade or consider the new U11. Use this code to get 50 off your new device "AMAZINGU11" to bring the price to 679.99
This really kind of pisses me off. I pre-ordered on May 31st with 50 dollars off and got the sapphire. Then they dropped the solar red and I was mildly irritated but dropping the 6/128GB has me fuming right now. HTC said they weren't bringing that model to the US and I'm definitely past the return period (phone arrived June 8th). All of us who were loyal to HTC got screwed. First they remove the text that says bootloader unlock doesn't void the warranty and now they pull this? -_-
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This really kind of pisses me off. I pre-ordered on May 31st with 50 dollars off and got the sapphire. Then they dropped the solar red and I was mildly irritated but dropping the 6/128GB has me fuming right now. HTC said they weren't bringing that model to the US and I'm definitely past the return period (phone arrived June 8th). All of us who were loyal to HTC got screwed. First they remove the text that says bootloader unlock doesn't void the warranty and now they pull this? -_-
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I completely understand your situation, I was 6 days away from my 30 day return window. You could always get some money back on swappa. I know it's not the perfect solution but if you really want the upgrade it's better than nothing. I have come to accept smartphones use the same marketing as high end pcs. After 6 months, your devices are obsolete.
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I completely understand your situation, I was 6 days away from my 30 day return window. You could always get some money back on swappa. I know it's not the perfect solution but if you really want the upgrade it's better than nothing. I have come to accept smartphones use the same marketing as high end pcs. After 6 months, your devices are obsolete.
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It's not so much that I need that model, it's the fact that I would have gotten it if HTC didn't lie about availability in the states. Truth be told, I'm so used to managing with 32GB phones that 64GB is plenty and 6GB of RAM is a total waste (my phone averages 2.6GB-2.8GB used, I've never seen it higher - adding more just seems pointless) but for 80 bucks, I would have done it.
For a company that is struggling to stay alive, they sure are getting adept at pissing off their loyal customers. I had the M7, the M8, skipped the M9 because of the Snapdragon 810, and I have the 10. I've had tons of HTC devices (see my signature) and now they are pulling things like promising the U11 warranty wouldn't be void by unlocking the bootloader just to remove it later to changing the firmware so that it's impossible to have permanent S-OFF to releasing new colors and now a higher speced model they said wasn't coming here... A lot of us are going to end up dropping HTC if they keep this garbage up. HTC needs to be reminded that they are no longer the dominant smartphone force they were in the Windows Mobile and early Android days.
I mean I just got mine a week or so ago. So I knew the higher end model was coming and I have a 128 GB SD card and a TON of flac music files that are large and use over 100 GB and I'm not even sweating it. To ME, the extra money isn't worth it because I'm fine with 192 gig's and 4gb ram.
Unfortunately for you, sometimes that happens when you're an early adopter. I got the 7,8,9,10 all when they first came out so I got burned on the 9 and the thermal issues. So this one, being on Verizon and having no CDMA radio I sat back for a while and saw all the yapping about dropped network,etc. So I took a chance and bought it from Amazon that has a great return policy and couldn't be happier. I thought about the 128 but all my HTCs up to this one have been silver and since that's all that's available now for pre-order, I couldn't be happier than the Sapphire Blue. I've had Samsung,LG, Moto, and am a beta tester for HTC and Moto and I can tell you with certainty that HTC isn't the only company who is confused as hell about what is happening. My Moto I was a freakin rom tester and the people I was dealing with in tech has no idea what was going on in sales and development. It's crazy but it seems to be somewhat the norm.
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Kisakuku said:
Chat reps are clueless. Android Police confirmed with HTC that it is 6/128.
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Android police article without source is no proof to me either. I will believe that is indeed with 6GB storage when somebody provides a solid evidence. I won't throw my money out of the window like that.
EtherealRemnant said:
It's not so much that I need that model, it's the fact that I would have gotten it if HTC didn't lie about availability in the states. Truth be told, I'm so used to managing with 32GB phones that 64GB is plenty and 6GB of RAM is a total waste (my phone averages 2.6GB-2.8GB used, I've never seen it higher - adding more just seems pointless) but for 80 bucks, I would have done it.
For a company that is struggling to stay alive, they sure are getting adept at pissing off their loyal customers. I had the M7, the M8, skipped the M9 because of the Snapdragon 810, and I have the 10. I've had tons of HTC devices (see my signature) and now they are pulling things like promising the U11 warranty wouldn't be void by unlocking the bootloader just to remove it later to changing the firmware so that it's impossible to have permanent S-OFF to releasing new colors and now a higher speced model they said wasn't coming here... A lot of us are going to end up dropping HTC if they keep this garbage up. HTC needs to be reminded that they are no longer the dominant smartphone force they were in the Windows Mobile and early Android days.
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I am normally just as picky but I am more than happy with this device. The best, most amazing mobile phone experience I've ever had so I will not let it it bother me. I'm actually proud of HTC and proud to support them. On top of all the freebies they have given me when they did not have to. $100 for free accessories, another $50 just for the heck of it and another $50 for a broken HTC Klik case, and then majorly reduced prices on HTC 10 accessories, I am still within my 30 days but I will keep this great device and keep using it with Verizon.
8bitbang said:
I actually ended up calling them and it took them a bit to confirm it will ship with 6GB of RAM. Im returning the solar red and upgraded to the 6/128 model. They said other color variants would surface in about 3 weeks. But as other users have stated, HTC is not the most reliable when coming from customer and chat support. So I'll take it with a grain of salt. If any other user hear wishes to upgrade or consider the new U11. Use this code to get 50 off your new device "AMAZINGU11" to bring the price to 679.99
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man! not again... no no no, why!!! ? HTC why ?!?! you do this to me.??!!
geez... I always wanted to 128GB version, but I thought that was only for the Other side of the planet.
I'd have waited for the 128 GB version had they announced it before.
They'll think i'm playing games with them, and keep returning phones, to order them again and again. LOL
after the initial release of the HTC U11 got two, returned them to get 2 red, now they account 128 GB, ... that means I'll most likely return these 2 red ones, for 2 new 128 GB... hopefully in red.
AllGamer said:
man! not again... no no no, why!!! ? HTC why ?!?! you do this to me.??!!
geez... I always wanted to 128GB version, but I thought that was only for the Other side of the planet.
I'd have waited for the 128 GB version had they announced it before.
They'll think i'm playing games with them, and keep returning phones, to order them again and again. LOL
after the initial release of the HTC U11 got two, returned them to get 2 red, now they account 128 GB, ... that means I'll most likely return these 2 red ones, for 2 new 128 GB... hopefully in red.
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128GB comes with amazing silver only for now. Yo may want to ask them if they are going to offer it in red in the near future. =b
Straight from the horse's mouth peeps. The description has been updated on the HTC website and confirms 100% that the 128GB model ships with 6GB RAM
LibertyMonger said:
I am normally just as picky but I am more than happy with this device. The best, most amazing mobile phone experience I've ever had so I will not let it it bother me. I'm actually proud of HTC and proud to support them. On top of all the freebies they have given me when they did not have to. $100 for free accessories, another $50 just for the heck of it and another $50 for a broken HTC Klik case, and then majorly reduced prices on HTC 10 accessories, I am still within my 30 days but I will keep this great device and keep using it with Verizon.
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Well of course you're happy, that's a lot of freebies.
I got 50 off my U11, that's it. Oh and the free Iceview case for the 10 along with a second charger and cable. That case was horrible though... it was really cheap plastic. Worth maybe 2 dollars.
I do love the phone and I do love supporting HTC but pulling S-OFF and the warranty shenanigans irks me. I guess we will have to see if they reverse course or not.
My phone is pretty much flawless so even if I could trade it in, I wouldn't risk it with all the complaints about dead/stuck pixels, light bleed, etc.
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Well of course you're happy, that's a lot of freebies.
I got 50 off my U11, that's it. Oh and the free Iceview case for the 10 along with a second charger and cable. That case was horrible though... it was really cheap plastic. Worth maybe 2 dollars.
I do love the phone and I do love supporting HTC but pulling S-OFF and the warranty shenanigans irks me. I guess we will have to see if they reverse course or not.
My phone is pretty much flawless so even if I could trade it in, I wouldn't risk it with all the complaints about dead/stuck pixels, light bleed, etc.
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If the Iceview case was built to last longer it would have been one of the best cases I ever owned. I did not need a screen protector with it and it did not allow dust and dirt to get in like the rest of the cases. The HTC 10 aluminum is very soft and get nicked very easily just by dust getting in. I never had that problem until the case split and started using the HTC Klik. Now I wish the U11 wallet case had some type of front window.
I was THRILLED to see the 128/6 model finally released in the U.S. Getting one asap. To bad T-Mobile won't be carrying the u11. Sucks for them. But sucks for us too for those who would have benefited from 0% financing.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/buy/#!color=silver
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Well of course you're happy, that's a lot of freebies.
I got 50 off my U11, that's it. Oh and the free Iceview case for the 10 along with a second charger and cable. That case was horrible though... it was really cheap plastic. Worth maybe 2 dollars.
I do love the phone and I do love supporting HTC but pulling S-OFF and the warranty shenanigans irks me. I guess we will have to see if they reverse course or not.
My phone is pretty much flawless so even if I could trade it in, I wouldn't risk it with all the complaints about dead/stuck pixels, light bleed, etc.
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What exactly do you mean??? Their own website says that they will unlock the bootloader AND still honor the warranty. So I am not sure what you mean.
Is there a new announcement to say otherwise?