[HYPERION9] bbm stuck at "Setting up BBM" - Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl

after i installing Hyperion9, my bbm stuck at "Setting up BBM". i use stock kernel. help me please

I assume you have downloaded bbm from the playstore
Cant see a reason why it would do this if that is the case

Make sure you have a good network and try wifi if you're using data network or vice versa

Turn on background data
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i have done turn on background data and i download the bbm from playstore but the bbm stay at the "setting up bbm".
maybe i must try network from wifi

try the first thread .... made for bbm
Find it at themes and apps section
Re-DO the steps again i made it and it was solved

Omar El- Hussien said:
try the first thread .... made for bbm
Find it at themes and apps section
Re-DO the steps again i made it and it was solved
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First, im sorry for bump an old thread, but i have same problem here. after install Hyperion 9 Final, i can't get pass Setting Up BBM.
I try wifi, clear cache, clear data, reinstall but still no luck.
I dont understand what Omar say, i try find solution but still.
is anyone here could help? or maybe TO already found a way to solve this problem?
Edit: nevermind, i find the problem. its my base rom is the problem. i try re-flash my phone with other rom which is latest according to this thread Firmware Packages. and setting up bbm run smoothly

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Apps Hang and dont donwload from Market

I am having this problem recently. I try to download any app or an update to any app. It will just sit at starting download and never download.
I am on Fresh ROM 1.0
I did update some apps after installing the ROM so that's not the problem.
I also have a problem that if I clear the cache, when I reboot Everything force and keeps force closing forever. Whats up with that? isn't the cache supposed to recompile on reboot?
I tried clearing the cache to fix the market issue to no avail (beacuse of all the force closes never got to see what happened after clearing cache). I tried clearing the cache from recovery and using Fresh's app installer,and both times tons of force closes.
Someone please HELP!
U probably need to login to gtalk. I had the same problem from using autostarts. Jus open the gtalk app, it will/should sign u in automatically.
this is not a gtalk issue. gtalk is not even related to what problem he has. i had it happen to me on my eris when i was playing around in the bootloader. when i started back up everything force closed and would not start. only sugetion i can give you on the force close it is a factory reset or ruu reset both will work. as far as downloads not starting are you rooted?
Yes, to install a custom ROM you need to be rooted. Tried the gtalk sing in to fix the Market issue and no dice. Still hanguing...
Anything else??
rigamrts said:
this is not a gtalk issue. gtalk is not even related to what problem he has. i had it happen to me on my eris when i was playing around in the bootloader. when i started back up everything force closed and would not start. only sugetion i can give you on the force close it is a factory reset or ruu reset both will work. as far as downloads not starting are you rooted?
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So I'm not going to call you out or something, but please read before you speak. Gtalk is MAJORLY tied in to the market and it is a documented fix from google themselves to try signing in to gtalk to fix stalled downloads.
Even though it doesn't work for everyone (depending on the reason it's stalled) it IS related.
daveli said:
Yes, to install a custom ROM you need to be rooted. Tried the gtalk sing in to fix the Market issue and no dice. Still hanguing...
Anything else??
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http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=57b5e3efa7477b50&hl=en
Hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts. Starting back in March and dating all the way until today. Google hasn't been able to resolve the issue. I can tell you that what has always worked for me is a combination of cancel download > disable wifi > disable mobile data > enable mobile data > try download again.
Didn't work? Reboot and repeat. Eventually it will go......
Thanks a lot flipz. I'll try that
flipzmode said:
So I'm not going to call you out or something, but please read before you speak. Gtalk is MAJORLY tied in to the market and it is a documented fix from google themselves to try signing in to gtalk to fix stalled downloads.
Even though it doesn't work for everyone (depending on the reason it's stalled) it IS related.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=57b5e3efa7477b50&hl=en
Hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts. Starting back in March and dating all the way until today. Google hasn't been able to resolve the issue. I can tell you that what has always worked for me is a combination of cancel download > disable wifi > disable mobile data > enable mobile data > try download again.
Didn't work? Reboot and repeat. Eventually it will go......
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95% of the time your second sugestion works. it may be that gtalk has major issues with stalled downloads but ussually i have this issue when i start my download over wifi for some reason it just never connect to the google server but when i kill the download and connect over 3G or Edge it works everytime on my G1. that's been a documented fix too. this issue only happens more frequently on custom roms than stock android roms. so it's more of a rom issue that googe issue. we're all here to help each other not trash talk each other. from my point of veiw gtalk may have some type of issue but it's more with the rom cooks than the app itself and it's not their fault either gtalk was desighned to work on googles cookie cutter os not on the home brew roms so errors happen you just have to know how to sweat talk your andoid to doing things when issues happen. the problem i had with your post was you only stated the gtalk issue when the wifi issue is more prevelent. i wasn't sure if he was on stock os or custom os so i asked about it. then i would have given him the instructions on turning off the the wifi, killing the downloads, and restarting the phone. like you told him to in the second post cause that seem to work better than the gtalk method.
rigamrts said:
i wasn't sure if he was on stock os or custom os so i asked about it.
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I stated clearly on my first post I am on Fresh 1.0 ROM, so everyone would know I was on a custom ROM.
daveli said:
I stated clearly on my first post I am on Fresh 1.0 ROM, so everyone would know I was on a custom ROM.
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sorry. i did not read your post clearly thought when you said fresh you ment fresh install. haven't really been keeping up with the hero roms to much and thier names still waiting for my eris to get it's turn at root. when i saw your post it just reminded me of how my rooted G1 would not start downloads over wifi. so i asked rooted or not just to be on the safe side.
the thing that got me a little heated was when he said "not to call you out" then he goes into a trist about how wifi seems to be the better fix.
by the way did you get your problem fixxed?
rigamrts said:
sorry. i did not read your post clearly thought when you said fresh you ment fresh install. haven't really been keeping up with the hero roms to much and thier names still waiting for my eris to get it's turn at root. when i saw your post it just reminded me of how my rooted G1 would not start downloads over wifi. so i asked rooted or not just to be on the safe side.
the thing that got me a little heated was when he said "not to call you out" then he goes into a trist about how wifi seems to be the better fix.
by the way did you get your problem fixxed?
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(Ok,fair enough it can be confusing when i wrote fresh; no worries).
About my problem: Not at all man, I tried every single one of the fixes and no luck. I am thinking about going back to stock and reflashing the custom ROM. I'll report back if/when/how it gets fixed
Nevermind Disregard
daveli said:
(Ok,fair enough it can be confusing when i wrote fresh; no worries).
About my problem: Not at all man, I tried every single one of the fixes and no luck. I am thinking about going back to stock and reflashing the custom ROM. I'll report back if/when/how it gets fixed
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I ended up factory resetting and now everything downloads normally
So... apps were downloading perfect from market UNTIL I restored a nandroid backup. Afterwards, Apps hang again. I mean exactly after restoring, went to the market and the problem is there again. Can the problem be tied to restoring backups? Or just coincidence?
Update:
Got the downloads working after clearing the cache of every single google application on the phone as well as IM.
After this, started downloading the app and it still hung. Opened gtalk and exactly as it signed in it started downloading fine.
I tried the afore mentioned fixes and had no luck, so for anyone who has this issue and has not been able to resolve it, this is another workaround.
Just FYI to anyone still with problems, I had problems again today EXACTLY after restoring a backup again.
This post I quoted by Zippy-man did the trick today Great Help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5374641&postcount=43

cant update apps since 4.2 update

I cant update any apps on me nexus7 now running 4.2.1 and still same issue the updates i choose just keep showing downloading and never download anything. Anyone else having this issue
slybunda said:
I cant update any apps on me nexus7 now running 4.2.1 and still same issue the updates i choose just keep showing downloading and never download anything. Anyone else having this issue
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Did you clear your framework services cache to get the update maybe? This is one of the symptoms I have read about.
I think the fix was to delete your playstore account on the Nexus and then sign in again.
Others may have better input.
Yeah, sign out and back in. Should fix that.
Ok will try that could not even downloadf any other app either.
Ok i deleted the play account and added a different one and same problem, cant get any apps stuck on downloasding progress bar.
Also how do do you sign out of the account
Also i did download the update to 4.2 via framework clear method.
Iv added a different account google play store I'm still does not work
Go into settings apps find google play click on it .. Clear cache and data .. reboot your tablet
If that does not work . and only then .
go into settings accounts google.. in the google account at the top right click the ... then delete account. REBOOT. it will prompt you to set up your Google account again once it boots backup...
This should Solve your troubles. If not and only then go into settings apps all
FIND GOOGLE FRAMEWORK .. clear data in there..
Good Luck
Ok brb gonn try the above
Done all of the above still not working just shows downloading bar and doesnt download anything time for an rma?
slybunda said:
Done all of the above still not working just shows downloading bar and doesnt download anything time for an rma?
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can u connect too and upload/download to any other devices on your home network?
If not you likely have a borked wifi chip.....
Just to add when i removed the google account and rebooted it did not ptompt me to add the google account on boot but when play store was launched it prompted me then. Still no luck though
bonzer2u said:
can u connect too and upload/download to any other devices on your home network?
If not you likely have a borked wifi chip.....
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Im using the nexus 7 on wifi right now to make these posts
slybunda said:
Im using the nexus 7 on wifi right now to make these posts
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scratch that idea then..... DOH
Im thinking this is software more than hardware issue. Anyone know how to fix this? Id hate to have to do a full wipe on the tablet to try and resolve this,
Get on your computer... Go to play.google.com. log in..
find a simple app and click install.. See if it will install the app to your Nexus 7 ...
or if the nexus is grayed out...if grayed out try a few apps. that we know should work in the nexus. .
This will check to see if your tab has been disabled with wallet... if you can push to the device its just a bug and play store is down for you wait a hour...
By the way ARE you totally stock .. ?
if not whats your configuration
totally stock, not even rooted. will try when i get back home later today,
I had this issue on a rooted N7 with TWRP. After I managed to get the update side loaded, nothing would update and the poor darling vanished from the Google Play website as well. I had to do a factory reset. Then everything was golden. I didn't even lose root, thanks to OTA Rootkeeper.
i didnt even try to sideload the update, all i did was the clear framework cache thingy and then update came and i updated it,
not happy with this if i have to start sideloading all my apps from now on since i dont want to be wiping it to factory settings, i will try the suggestion above when i get home though and see if play store is working, may just let it keep downloading for an hour or so and see if that works.
I think it was the framework clearing that may have caused it. I too tried that step to try and force the update to download. T'was all bad man. However, once I factory reset it, I just left it plugged into power and went out for dinner, when I got back it had downloaded all the apps I had registered on Google Play. Amazon was a different beast of course. By all means, let it percolate and it might fix itself, just keep that reset in mind.
will do, when i get home will leave the tablet on and let it keep trying to install the apps,
when it goes into standby mode when the screen powers off will it still be trying to install the apps in the background or does in standby mode the install process stop?

[Q] [HELP] Package is invalid ERROR

Hello,
I bought yesterday my new nexus 4 and I set it up with the wifi of my friend . The app was downloading just fine.
When I went home to download new apps , the error 'Package file is invalid' was shown .
I have meda factory reset and clean data of the app but no luck.
Please help me solve it as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance.
jimkaps said:
Hello,
I bought yesterday my new nexus 4 and I set it up with the wifi of my friend . The app was downloading just fine.
When I went home to download new apps , the error 'Package file is invalid' was shown .
I have meda factory reset and clean data of the app but no luck.
Please help me solve it as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance.
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Try again download app and install latest file menager (es, astro)...
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I have tried to install it again and again , but nothing happens. Moreover , I have a sstock rom and this error occurs only in my homes wifi .
I have tried 3 other wifi connections and the downloads was fine .
jimkaps said:
Hello,
I bought yesterday my new nexus 4 and I set it up with the wifi of my friend . The app was downloading just fine.
When I went home to download new apps , the error 'Package file is invalid' was shown .
I have meda factory reset and clean data of the app but no luck.
Please help me solve it as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi There,
Ok, dont panic.
I've had the same problem and looked after a solution in every android thread. some tells you to clear play store cach etc...
I've tryed everything including rooting my device, factory reset etc....
The only solution that worked fr me is changing my wifi router. Did you try to download from the play store using a differente Wifi (router) ?
AIRagon said:
Hi There,
Ok, dont panic.
I've had the same problem and looked after a solution in every android thread. some tells you to clear play store cach etc...
I've tryed everything including rooting my device, factory reset etc....
The only solution that worked fr me is changing my wifi router. Did you try to download from the play store using a differente Wifi (router) ?
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I have just changed router but the error persist .
jimkaps said:
I have just changed router but the error persist .
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Sorry to ask you silly questions but : is the new router you used the same as the first one ?
The reason I ask this is that changing the router automatically solved the problem for me. I've read in another forum (I could not remember the link) that this issue has to do with the router configuration.
I'm personally not very skilled in networks etc.. but at least it has worked for me.
Let me know if you try another router if it works.

[HELP]Playstore Stuck at Downloading KITKAT[HELP]

Hello,
My Kitkat 4.4.2 Nexus 4 is stuck at downloading in playstore.I can't download any apps.When I click install>accept the downloading arrow comes and it says "Downloading" and after few seconds the arrow disappears.I left the phone like that for an hour thought it would work.But it doesn't nothing happend still the same "Downloading".This started first when I installed modded playstore with lucky pathcher.I installed the orginal playstore again after encountering the problem but nothing seems to work.I did everything I found google.Literally everything.I tried:
*Editing the host file
*Wiping data and cache
*Clear data of playstore
*Stop Running cache
*Alot other things which I can't remember currently
Can anyone help me I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 I can download apps on it. so it clearly isn't my wifi.I feel like tearing off my hair.Please Help me somebody please.And is there is anyway to install the Modded playstore and get it working on Kitkat 4.4.2.But first give me the solution to atleast download my apps on normal playstore please.
Best Regards,
Khaled Mohammad
itskhaledmohammad said:
Hello,
My Kitkat 4.4.2 Nexus 4 is stuck at downloading in playstore.I can't download any apps.When I click install>accept the downloading arrow comes and it says "Downloading" and after few seconds the arrow disappears.I left the phone like that for an hour thought it would work.But it doesn't nothing happend still the same "Downloading".This started first when I installed modded playstore with lucky pathcher.I installed the orginal playstore again after encountering the problem but nothing seems to work.I did everything I found google.Literally everything.I tried:
*Editing the host file
*Wiping data and cache
*Clear data of playstore
*Stop Running cache
*Alot other things which I can't remember currently
Can anyone help me I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 I can download apps on it. so it clearly isn't my wifi.I feel like tearing off my hair.Please Help me somebody please.And is there is anyway to install the Modded playstore and get it working on Kitkat 4.4.2.But first give me the solution to atleast download my apps on normal playstore please.
Best Regards,
Khaled Mohammad
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You had installed the modded play store this is causing the problem. Clean install the STOCK KITKAT ROM or try any other custom ROM.
DON'T INSTALL MODDED PLAY STORE- WAREZ STRICTLY PROHIBITED ON XDA
Rohit02 said:
You had installed the modded play store this is causing the problem. Clean install the STOCK KITKAT ROM or try any other custom ROM.
DON'T INSTALL MODDED PLAY STORE- WAREZ STRICTLY PROHIBITED ON XDA
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You didn't read my question properly I have installed a clean version.BUT ANYWAYS I GOT IT WORKING SOON I WILL BE POSTING A SOLUTION IN DETAILS TO HELP OTHERS. :laugh:
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itskhaledmohammad said:
You didn't read my question properly I have installed a clean version.BUT ANYWAYS I GOT IT WORKING SOON I WILL BE POSTING A SOLUTION IN DETAILS TO HELP OTHERS. :laugh:
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Sorry to bump into this old thread, but I am having this same issue. Tried log cat and it shows "DRMManager Service not published". Could this be causing the playstore to be stuck in "Downloading"? Anyone has a fix on this?

Unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped

After flashing the 4.4.2 firmware to my Note 3, I get the following error message once the device turns on: "Unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped". I can just click ok and the message goes away but it shouldn't be appearing in the first place so does anyone know how to make it go away? An the phone works fine.
Yes I did a clean install, tried clearing the data and cache from app manager and any of the obvious ideas.
Anybody else having this issue? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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wmfreak said:
After flashing the 4.4.2 firmware to my Note 3, I get the following error message once the device turns on: "Unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped". I can just click ok and the message goes away but it shouldn't be appearing in the first place so does anyone know how to make it go away? An the phone works fine.
Yes I did a clean install, tried clearing the data and cache from app manager and any of the obvious ideas.
Anybody else having this issue? Any help is greatly appreciated!
w
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try doing a factory reset, if this does not work then try flashing a different 4.4.2 or re-downloading the one you flashed and trying again.
sweatingmytittsoff said:
try doing a factory reset, if this does not work then try flashing a different 4.4.2 or re-downloading the one you flashed and trying again.
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thanks but I've already done all those
wmfreak said:
thanks but I've already done all those
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you have already downloaded and installed a different version of 4.4.2????
if you are getting the problem on multiple roms then you must be doing something wrong during the flashing process.
Clear your cache from recovery rather than Application Manager.
radicalisto said:
Clear your cache from recovery rather than Application Manager.
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Done that too
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wmfreak said:
Done that too
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Hmm, Tried a reflash? -- if no good, reflash with a full wipe that usually solves 99% of issues. Only thing I can think of
I had that problem too and it almost made me to hit my note 3 into the wall. From the first day I turned him...
My fix solution was Settings>Application Manager> Menu > Reset app preference>Reboot. Do it again if its going to be the sam outcome. I found tjat when you are force stopping aps, or closing you are going to end with those messages....
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uvaman said:
I had that problem too and it almost made me to hit my note 3 into the wall. From the first day I turned him...
My fix solution was Settings>Application Manager> Menu > Reset app preference>Reboot. Do it again if its going to be the sam outcome. I found tjat when you are force stopping aps, or closing you are going to end with those messages....
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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just tried that too, rebooted, same result
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my friend
don't try to reset , wipe any thing .
i have same problem and posted before : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620340
i asked from all kings of developing , but no one could help me .
i searched on google and found out that problem maybe cause of our sim-card . maybe changing sim card your problem will be solved.
i'm almost confident that is cause of baseband " NA6" and we should wait for 4.4.2 for our region with different baseband .
be aware , this problem is with u even when try any custom rom , cause all af the are using NA5 and NA6 .
just crossing your finger and wait for new and diffrent baseban version my friend .
I'm having a similar issue accept my phone boots with the error, and will not go away even after multiple confirmations and reboots. Tried wiping cache/dalvik but nothing.
stevenschemers said:
I'm having a similar issue accept my phone boots with the error, and will not go away even after multiple confirmations and reboots. Tried wiping cache/dalvik but nothing.
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Are you rooted with any changes?
Sent from my Note 3...making all others drool!
I had the same type of problem myself,
But on my HTC one. I was close to start the painful process of unrooting my device and go back to stock.
My problem was not having ANY network & using the phone or sms didn't work at all. I read many "solutions" on the internet but none helped.
I experimented myself and found a solution to my problem. If it can help others as well I am glad.
First go into settings, then apps.
Scroll to all applications, search for phone.apk - if you have an option to uninstall phone.apk to previous version/state do this. Reboot the phone. In my case this did the trick and everything is working properly. Hope it helps others as well.
Please respond if you tried and it worked. It may be helpful for others too.
Solving Unfortunately the process com.android.phone has stopped IN HTC>>>ANY MODEL
:good::good::good::good::good::good:
I was in this trouble for 6 days,
I gave mu cellphone to many Repairman And I asked them if any friend of them can fix it please do it.
But nobody with any expensive Boxes couldent to fix.
I got my HTC sensation and I was very sad.
But Abruptly I found a way.
I did my cellphone to SUPER CID with ADB & FASTBOOT before.
Because of that change my phone didnt know my sim card.
Some peoples only get an update and they fall into this problem. I am in IRAN (middle east)
YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR CID TO YOUR AREA.
in HTC Series CID s are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445289
THIS IS ONLY WAY FOR PERSONS THAT ANY WIPE OR RESET DIDNT WORK FOR THEM.
mobile issue
i have katboon tab a34 in tablet one problem that is unfortunately process.com android.phone the stooped. so pls give me solutions of this problem
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himmat7 said:
i have katboon tab a34 in tablet one problem that is unfortunately process.com android.phone the stooped. so pls give me solutions of this problem
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did yo any Update your tablet??
Which Country Are You in?
Is your Device rooted?
process com.android.phone has stopped working
I have a LG L70 that I rooted. I didn't install any ROM's on it. But what I did do was change the run time from Davik to ART. When the phone turned back on I received the warning Unfortunately the phone stopped working. And when I tried to factory reset the LG L70, that's when I get the error message Unfortunately com.android.phone has stopped working. Then I reset the phone back to Davik with no success. Is there a solution to fix this problem without using a PC? I can't even download anything because I can't sign in to my Google account. And trying to download direct the phone will not open any files, even the files I've saved on my SD Card. Please help. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. Going to settings>apps>all apps etc. doesn't work.
Help from HTC user
professor2012 said:
I have a LG L70 that I rooted. I didn't install any ROM's on it. But what I did do was change the run time from Davik to ART. When the phone turned back on I received the warning Unfortunately the phone stopped working. And when I tried to factory reset the LG L70, that's when I get the error message Unfortunately com.android.phone has stopped working. Then I reset the phone back to Davik with no success. Is there a solution to fix this problem without using a PC? I can't even download anything because I can't sign in to my Google account. And trying to download direct the phone will not open any files, even the files I've saved on my SD Card. Please help. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. Going to settings>apps>all apps etc. doesn't work.
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HI, it's possible that you installed wrong art area, my English language is not good,, try to download your region art runtime, this error come when the phone doesn't know your region, for example you r in middle East but you have installed art runtime for Europe,, I didn't work on any LG mobile phones, I hope it be helpful
professor2012 said:
I have a LG L70 that I rooted. I didn't install any ROM's on it. But what I did do was change the run time from Davik to ART. When the phone turned back on I received the warning Unfortunately the phone stopped working. And when I tried to factory reset the LG L70, that's when I get the error message Unfortunately com.android.phone has stopped working. Then I reset the phone back to Davik with no success. Is there a solution to fix this problem without using a PC? I can't even download anything because I can't sign in to my Google account. And trying to download direct the phone will not open any files, even the files I've saved on my SD Card. Please help. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. Going to settings>apps>all apps etc. doesn't work.
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Try wiping cache, dalvik cache, system data and then factory reset (all this from recovery). I don't own a LG phone but this process is the same for almost all phones I think.
how did you erase the cache/dalvik in this situation
stevenschemers said:
I'm having a similar issue accept my phone boots with the error, and will not go away even after multiple confirmations and reboots. Tried wiping cache/dalvik but nothing.
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How did you wipe the cache/dalvik in this situation. I can't even reinstall anything to re-root the phone. And there is no keyboard that I can type on. The only way that I can communicate with the phone is to speak through voice mode. And that isn't always a good experience.

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