Just read this In XDA news:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cyanogenmod-11-and-slimkat-for-the-locked-xperia-sp/
Maybe some of the greatest developers in this forum could port it for our Z1 LB. who knows...
That would be amazing!
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They did the same with CM10 on Xperia S, I was running it on my XS and it worked really well so it is possible
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Without kexec, it is impossible.
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And, one day, we get this in CM build for Z1
Paranoid Android's Hover - Hands On: http://youtu.be/u_3Ik7m3z50
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I Hope so !!! :laugh:
Somone know if a dev will take the project ? )
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Somone know if a dev will take the project ? )
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Probably not.
I'm sad to say this but the z1 is the first and last sony device I bought. Why? Lack of development, locked bootloader and unable to unlock it. The fact it has a 21 mp sensor and I'm obligated to use 8 mp to take better photos than If took it with 21mp, video recording full HD only at 30 when the hardware can do 60 fps. And so on.
It's a shame. This device has a lot of potencial but it's wasted.
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Probably not.
I'm sad to say this but the z1 is the first and last sony device I bought. Why? Lack of development, locked bootloader and unable to unlock it. The fact it has a 21 mp sensor and I'm obligated to use 8 mp to take better photos than If took it with 21mp, video recording full HD only at 30 when the hardware can do 60 fps. And so on.
It's a shame. This device has a lot of potencial but it's wasted.
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Totally agree with you, first and last device from Sony ...
It's like a powerfull phone, but he used only 50% of this power .... I'm really sad ...
Pictures are good in auto but only 8 Mpx, yes why put 21 mpx then ? .... :-/
You can do it with 20mp mod (xposed).
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jordane1993 said:
Totally agree with you, first and last device from Sony ...
It's like a powerfull phone, but he used only 50% of this power .... I'm really sad ...
Pictures are good in auto but only 8 Mpx, yes why put 21 mpx then ? .... :-/
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Because you get better images that way. Unlike older cameras that simply subsampled the image, the Z1 uses information from multiple pixels to reduce random noise. This is exactly what Nokia does with the 808 and some crappier Windows Phone models (1020, 1520).
With a high pixel count camera, you get very dense information. You most likely don't need such a dense information: you can print an 8MP image on A4 and still be over 300 dpi. When you look at the image on your screen, the PC/phone will blindly reduce the resolution to match your screen (which is 1920x1080, about 2 megapixels).
In other words, unless for specific corner cases, 20 megapixels is overkill. So, you're better off using that dense information to get a better, lower density image. The methods Nokia/Sony use for that are derived from seismic image processing, which is one of the cornerstones of the oil industry. Very complex, very well tested, and very accurate. For 99.99% of the pictures you take, they will be better than the raw 20MP image (and you do have the option to get the raw 20MP image when you shoot manual, although those corner cases are when a real camera would be the best choice).
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Because you get better images th......bla, bla, bla
...bla,bla, bla.. ot manual, although those corner cases are when a real camera would be the best choice).
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Great story but mine pictures, no matter which pixel density, still with a lot of noise. Unacceptable for a kind of high-tech device and camera.
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Because you get better images that way. Unlike older cameras that simply subsampled the image, the Z1 uses information from multiple pixels to reduce random noise. This is exactly what Nokia does with the 808 and some crappier Windows Phone models (1020, 1520).
With a high pixel count camera, you get very dense information. You most likely don't need such a dense information: you can print an 8MP image on A4 and still be over 300 dpi. When you look at the image on your screen, the PC/phone will blindly reduce the resolution to match your screen (which is 1920x1080, about 2 megapixels).
In other words, unless for specific corner cases, 20 megapixels is overkill. So, you're better off using that dense information to get a better, lower density image. The methods Nokia/Sony use for that are derived from seismic image processing, which is one of the cornerstones of the oil industry. Very complex, very well tested, and very accurate. For 99.99% of the pictures you take, they will be better than the raw 20MP image (and you do have the option to get the raw 20MP image when you shoot manual, although those corner cases are when a real camera would be the best choice).
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Thaks for information Then i used only 8 mpx for better quality
I don't know before how the pictures was token, now i can know how, and that good to say ! Thanks !
That hover looks good, is it a standalone mod? Or is pa a prerequisite? I'm thinking that this is my last Sony too. The fact that were tied to flash tool and using a computer is just a pain in the backside. Not to Menton the fact that my first z1 was unlockable. HTC and the one plus one for me. Maybe even the note 4.
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HI,
So, I'm one of the few who is definitely not happy with his new Xperia Z. Having had my go at the screen, where I understand things might get mixed with personal taste I decided to have a look at the camera.
I took some photos today with it and also with my Galaxy S2. Images on the left are from the Sony.
Full size images:
Samsung: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8p9lsf08oa1l0rq/Samsung.zip?m
Sony: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5vco70vgqh5yz/Sony.zip?m
You be the judge
Edit: One interesting thing is image size in MB. Images from the Sony are significantly smaller than the ones from the S2 even though they are 12MP vs 8MP (last image from the Sony sampes is 9MP)
Cheers,
P
Can you upload a video sample too..nobody seems to help me with this..can you help uploading the video sample to dropbox i really want to check the video quality.
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Yes I'm disappoint about the camera too, washed out color, poor details.X(
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shame on sony felt it would be like this.........they produce sensors for most device manufacturers but they keep poor sensors in their devices
will never return to sony in near future
Thanks for the post. I have S2 and have been waiting to buy either this phone HTC one or s4. I can cross xz off my list. Very disappointed at sony
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I thinks the pics here are not correct.
Photoshop editing
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Definitely agree. Since the op made this topic, I've done side by side comparisons between the GS2 and Xperia Z and no way in hell is the s2 camera better than the Xperia Z. The s2 over-saturates all the colours. The XZ takes a picture of the object as it is, it doesn't try to bloat it with over-saturated colours or try to richen the picture which I like.
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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if the OP had said GS3 camera maybe it would have been worth a look, but a GS2 camera doing better then XZ...well..
Lol at this post. Check the images closely..
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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ever heard of compression levels
Tyr rsatsi
I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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Thanks man. This seems to be the truth. Sony didn't make the effort with camera or speaker. The speaker made me laugh when I tested it in the 3 store. Really wanted to like this phone but too many negatives to jump in for a two year contract !
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Nothing wrong with the speaker louder than sg3, also the cam is good on this i think people are trolling and chatting bs.
To everyone saying that the Z has a great camera can you please attach some photos (straight from the phone please)?
The samples on dropbox are completely untouched, the other images are just put side by side on Photoshop to get the screenshot.
Sony clearly under performs, specially in color reproduction (wrong wb) and less sharp images. On the second sample you can't even perceive the small cracks on the sticker while they are perfectly visible on the sgs2.
So please, attach some photos. Maybe I have a defective model, who knows. But I've looked around for camera samples and they all look the same.
I do, however, believe this is a software problem. Too much noise reduction and compression. There is no way a JPEG that has more pixels and is, on average, 30% smaller is size has more detail
May be a sony hater, sammy's spy doing some ****ty work here.... i dont think he will be seen here anymore ... he knows he is caught.... heheehhe
I can see that everyone here appears to want to believe the camera is great, but that isn't quite the truth. Check some sites like GSMArena - the camera doesn't fare that well in comparison with good 8mp shooters from last year in fact. It's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, I mean those 8mp weren't either by cellphone standards, but I think it is fair to say that it is a bit disappointing considering the increased mp count and supposed sensor advancements.
The thing that I am curious about is the file size. It seems common sense to me that if 2 pictures are in the same format then the larger file will have more detail. Is it possible that we can make the XZ compress the pictures less (maybe take pictures in a better format) and have a much better result???
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I will post some pictures tonight from my xz and my 4s.
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Hello XDA Community
Just installed the 14.2.A.0.290 Update (Android 4.3) and played with the camera for a little bit. I had little time to take photos but it seems like there really isn't that much improvement on Superior Auto (I did not have time to try manual since I have to run out and leave for work!).
Also, I had to make a few attempts to tap to focus to actually focus correctly which was an issue that I didn't have before. Anyway, it's really too early for me to criticize the camera since these were taken around 7:15-7:30AM and the lighting in my home office isn't that great.
I will take more pictures throughout the day both indoor and outdoors.
These photos are unaltered and are posted on flickr so you can view the original resolution. Again, taken in Superior Auto: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjP5Eneu
If anyone can post their notes and photo samples taken on manual, please post originals on Flickr and share!
Update - just added more photos when walking to my car outside!
Hey you know what... maybe SA mode has improved. Looks like the photos taken in the new update aren't as over-exposed as the previous version. I could be wrong.
Better if you make comparison, Android 4.2.2 vs 4.3... Photos like this are showing nothing...
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Still way too much processing and compression, still garbage and have to rely on manual mode.
Seems like it focuses a lot faster with 4.3
I can vouch that focusing seems to be faster. Actual picture quality doesn't seem much different, I'll run a few tests once I'm done with final exams
Is the superior auto still taking 8 MP photos? Or is it able to take 20 MP shots?
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bogdan wst said:
Is the superior auto still taking 8 MP photos? Or is it able to take 20 MP shots?
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It still takes 8MP shots, but people have to realize that's a GOOD thing. If it takes 20MP shots a couple of things happen: 1. The file size will be very big, 2. There will be more noise in the picture and 3. It will have a 4:3 aspect ratio which sucks for wallpapers, etc. Superior auto uses downsampling so that the 8MP image has the quality of a 20MP image without the weird aspect ratio, smaller file size and less noise. It's good!
they need to allow higher resolution auto mode, maybe not 20 MP, but like 12 MP should still be good for wide aspect ratio I think. And it also puts it ahead of all other android phones. And seriously, they need less compressed jpeg saving. Even if it means bigger file size, the S800 can easily handle it. My old S3 with superfine picture mode generally get around 3.5 MB for 8MP and Z1 is like 2.5 MB, thats shows how that there something going on with the horrible compression ratio. Sony needs to pull their head out of their ass and accept that their imagine processing is garbage, the Z1 camera specs is suppose to destroy every other android phone, not matching them.
So no 16:9 photos in MANUAL 20 MP?
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dont think the lens is true wide angle lense, so its max out at 20MP 4:3, if they want to add 16:9 high MP shots, it probably have to drop to 18MP or lower.
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dont think the lens is true wide angle lense, so its max out at 20MP 4:3, if they want to add 16:9 high MP shots, it probably have to drop to 18MP or lower.
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which would be something that I could live with if I had 18mp wide and 13mp instead of going from 20mp to 8mp.
Here's a comparison between the Xperia Z1 with the new 14.2.A.0.290 update vs the Nexus 5 with 4.4.2 (both taken in Auto)
Breakfast taken with Xperia Z1 (New 4.3 Update)
Breakfast taken with Nexus 5 4.4.2
Please make sure to click the links to view them in full sized!
is wurstel ??
The nexus 5's terrible. Extremely oversaturated and the oranges are completely washed out. The z1's much better.
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is wurstel ??
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No a finger
Dat oversaturation
Wow, the Z1 picture makes me hungry. Z1 by a mile obviously, the N5 looks washed out and is not nearly as sharp with detail. Then again, the camera on the n5 isn't bad considering it's price point. But it's no match for the Z1 or most other android phones for that matter.
I'm tempted to call that picture a tie. The detail on the food and plate is much better on the Z1, however I can barely see the wood grain on the table, whereas it's pretty clear on the N5
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I'm tempted to call that picture a tie. The detail on the food and plate is much better on the Z1, however I can barely see the wood grain on the table, whereas it's pretty clear on the N5
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I think the oversaturated color destroy quite a bit of detail from the nexus, and Z1 picture is kind of darker, which is why the wood grain is more visible from the nexus.
Really happy with this test , showing the excellent low light capabilities of the Xperia Z2,
Here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NKTYPBuGH4
That's amazing
Hope the camera will impressive as in the show when I use it later
Wow
Just one word, Wow!
Ok wait i'm speachless now! THIS JUST SMASHED THE NOKIA AND I****5S
As a Z1 owner this makes me really happy. Both have the same camera, there's no reason why ours shouldn't be improved to be like the Z2's!
I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
Mmm.. maybe those box is made for the z2 showoff
Maybe after released to the market, there will be a better camera comparison. But I still love the z2 rather than 5s or the nokia or the s5
Something is very suspicious about this test. I don't know what they're doing, but I would not expect that dramatic of a difference with the Z2 camera in reality.
People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
Not a very good comparison, we'll see what happens in real life. But still... suggesting NFC trickery with the sticker on the box sounds a little bit far-fetched...
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
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Really? you think NFC was used here and it wasn't showed on the screen that NFC was used, how stupid can you be?
and doesn't 1520 support NFC too? and We all clearly saw that the flash is off on all three devices.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
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Hypocrite, I clearly myself sometimes don't like the photo quality on Z1 cause it can do better than that and it's all with software issue and I compared 1520 with Xperia Z1 and It showed Xperia Z1 is better.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
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This test was done on fully auto not the manual mode, I know if it was taken on manual mode Xperia Z2 might not do well yet it will have some decent pictures, Remember that SA mode isn't bad all the time. It takes some great shots time to time.
What a shot!
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You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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well that test is kinda strange for sure but flash clearly wasnt used - you can even see the disabled flash symbol in that video
I've re-watched the video and I now understand how it did better but I will wait for comparisons by tech sites. For me all Sony cameras on xperias have been rubbish so I will wait. I don't expect it to beat One/2 or 1020 pureview in low light but we'll see.
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aliHTCDHD said:
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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Flash was turned off... you can clearly see that on the screen. However ridiculous the test might be - suggesting Sony rigged it with NFC or hidden/modified icon to conceal the use of flash is just as ridiculous...
This test it still useless though. Real photos are what matters and we will know more in the weeks to come.
Hi. I have xperia sp.
It has the worst 8MP camera i'v ever seen.
images and videos are always grainy no matter what light conditions are.
every image has noise. its quality is equivalent to some 2MP shooter.
Is any one experiencing same issue? Is this software issue or hardware??
Please help me. after spending so much of money m not at all happy with the camera quality.... feeling cheated
xperia SP
Clean your camera lens first..
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absolutely true. worst camera considering the brand Sony. Micromax has better camera than SP. cleaning camera lens or cover does not improve anything.
I regret buying this phone. should have gone for ZR
I us this camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655322 on cm11 and it's nice.
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Regretting buying a phone just because of crappy camera? And you feel cheated? It's not like Sony forced you to buy it and said its camera is excellent. In fact, all of the reviews say that the camera is bad and not good enough. Do some research before buying a phone. And don't expect wonders from a mid range with such high end specs
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No better pic. On the other ones are my family.
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For me it is not the worst. Stock 4.1.2. Superior auto mode. Indoor could be better though.
outdoor
indoor
my camera works just fine, you need to fine tune the settings
vvstorm2 said:
Hi. I have xperia sp.
It has the worst 8MP camera i'v ever seen.
images and videos are always grainy no matter what light conditions are.
every image has noise. its quality is equivalent to some 2MP shooter.
Is any one experiencing same issue? Is this software issue or hardware??
Please help me. after spending so much of money m not at all happy with the camera quality.... feeling cheated
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Don't worry...!! All the Xperia SP got worst camera like you...!! It has worst camera than all other sony devices I've used till now..!!
sell your phone and buy new a phone
Okay i do not get all of ur complaints bout xperia SP's camera
The camera is pretty good, ya we cant compare to high end devices, but its still pretty good man
I was able to take perfectly clear pics of cells with this camera via a microscope, which i cudnt using a iphone 5
First 3 pics are from 4.1
Other 3 are from 4.3
I do not get how you can say its really bad :-/
Just try to take multiple pics, then delete all except best, or use burst
Low light is not as good
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honestly, the camera is fine, take it off superior auto and put it on manual and take a better pic, its not the camera its the photographer. now to prove this theory, please try and tell me what camera took this un-edited, un-filtered un modified pic
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honestly, the camera is fine, take it off superior auto and put it on manual and take a better pic, its not the camera its the photographer. now to prove this theory, please try and tell me what camera took this un-edited, un-filtered un modified pic
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okay there is no argue here
that picture is just... OMG XD
thanks brotha, feel free to use the pic if you wish
Sadman Khan said:
Regretting buying a phone just because of crappy camera? And you feel cheated? It's not like Sony forced you to buy it and said its camera is excellent. In fact, all of the reviews say that the camera is bad and not good enough. Do some research before buying a phone. And don't expect wonders from a mid range with such high end specs
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i am saying this because i have compared pics taken by xperia sp and xperia L. (in auto mode and in manual mode with same settings.)
xperia L inspite of being cheaper than xperia sp has nice camera quality and much less noise whereas xperia sp always has noise which drastically reduces the quality as compared to xperia L (Which is cheaper 8MP shooter)
and i am saying it because sony is advertising xperia sp and xperia L both for 8 mp shooter with "Sony Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor"
How the same sensor with same resolution can produce so much of noise on xperia sp
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i am saying this because i have compared pics taken by xperia sp and xperia L. (in auto mode and in manual mode with same settings.)
xperia L inspite of being cheaper than xperia sp has nice camera quality and much less noise whereas xperia sp always has noise which drastically reduces the quality as compared to xperia L (Which is cheaper 8MP shooter)
and i am saying it because sony is advertising xperia sp and xperia L both for 8 mp shooter with "Sony Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor"
How the same sensor with same resolution can produce so much of noise on xperia sp
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Because they have to sell both.
L for camera
SP for GPU and illumination bar.
These are market tactics and every manufacturer does it. Dont say you dont know this. My desire x was a low/midranger, with excellent camera, but crappy everything else. every set is made to sell for 1 or two points, and flagships are made to cover all of the points. simple.
neXus PRIME said:
Because they have to sell both.
L for camera
SP for GPU and illumination bar.
These are market tactics and every manufacturer does it. Dont say you dont know this. My desire x was a low/midranger, with excellent camera, but crappy everything else. every set is made to sell for 1 or two points, and flagships are made to cover all of the points. simple.
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Can i use any specific custom ROM for xperia SP which will have a better camera than what stock ROM has.??
vvstorm2 said:
Can i use any specific custom ROM for xperia SP which will have a better camera than what stock ROM has.??
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Changing ROM wont change camera result. however you can try some camera apps from play store. like camera mx and camera 360 etc...
Some focus issues are solved by using 3rd paarty apps. But still, nothing great or extraordinary. Its a decent camera, not a world-beater. you have to accept and live with the fact like all of us. cheers
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my camera works just fine, you need to fine tune the settings
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Do you have any settings to take a nice picture? Please share
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meshramjatin said:
Do you have any settings to take a nice picture? Please share
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i change the settings after every pic but i will post what i generally do
First of all put the phone in manual mode auto is ok but not great
set the focus to single auto focus
put on image stabilizer
you should put the phone to take 5mp 16:9 photos not 8mp 4:3
when you are about to take the picture set the exposure so that the pic isnt too bright or too dark
set the white balance now and change it till the pic looks right
now you must click the camera shutter so it focuses the pic then after 1-2 seconds take the shot :good:
Let me just first put it out there that I'm a loyal Sony guy. I've owned the Xperia TL, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z1 and now the Xperia Z3C.
With that said, I knew the Sony cameras took subpar pics, whether in full auto or manual mode, they just look bad. Add low light or indoor to the mix, and you've got what looks like a pic from a 2005 Nokia phone. Sorry, I know we all love our Xperias, but Sony should be ashamed of themselves for doing this, considering that they make awesome DSLRs and point and shoots.
So why am I being a rabble rouser all of a sudden? Well, I just got a Note 4 as my work phone and needless to say, I was blown away by the camera results. The differences are night and day between the two. Sadly, I'm supposed to be carrying my work phone just during work days, but I found myself leaving my Z3C at home and going out with the Note 4 this weekend, and you should see the pics I took.
I don't know if the lens is good but the software is bad on the Sony, but if there is any hope that Lollipop will make it better with RAW, I sure hope Sony takes advantage of it.
I agree. The camera of the Lumia 925 that I had, was much better than the camera's compact Z3.
To be honest, this camera does not please me one bit, outside the fact that it does not have optical image stabilizer.
Check the "post pictures that you have taken with your z3c" or something thread. Also, photos will naturally look better on amoled. Transfer your z3c pictures to Note 4 and then look at them again. Might seem better. I find both cameras great by the way
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I wouldn't say suck. I'd just say average.
If you buy this phone for the camera, you're doing it from the wrong direction.
It'd be like buying this phone for the 'best speakers on the market', when HTC One's are those.
The Z3C phone is the best for compact and power; it's a pocket rocket and that's what it specializes at first and foremost, second being its water proof-dust proof without being some rugged phone.
So why am I being a rabble rouser all of a sudden? Well, I just got a Note 4 as my work phone and needless to say, I was blown away by the camera results. The differences are night and day between the two. Sadly, I'm supposed to be carrying my work phone just during work days, but I found myself leaving my Z3C at home and going out with the Note 4 this weekend, and you should see the pics I took.
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If you're taking around a Note 4, then you're clearly weren't in for the Z3C's compact and pocket rocket in the first place, and you're now choosing the best camera in stead.
Please just tell me that you're comparing pictures on a PC.
Moist said:
Please just tell me that you're comparing pictures on a PC.
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EXACTLY.
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You are comparing a quad HD display to a 720p. You're not comparing the camera performance. Just the display. I'd do the comparison again on a PC
I still don't understand what is wrong with Sony's compact camera ... my compact camera is taking great pictures :laugh:
No, I've been comparing the photos on my thunderbolt display, so no bias toward the Note 4's screen in any way.
And no, I'm not all sold on the Note 4, I still can't live without the compactness of my Z3C.
I will take identical photos from both phones today and post here.
Z3c camera doesn't suck, it's "just" above average.
The only other phone with superior camera that rivals Z3C's performance, size and specs is the iPhone 5s to be honest.
Samsung phones have the best cameras overall, but their devices aren't one-hand friendly.
If you want top notch pictures then you need to buy a decent camera.. For a mobile phone camera it does its job, I have no issues with it.
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pricey2009 said:
If you want top notch pictures then you need to buy a decent camera.. For a mobile phone camera it does its job, I have no issues with it.
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Try Lumia920. I still prefer it.
Compare any Nokia you want against an alpha 6000 (or any dslr or mirrorless camera).
Once you go big lenses and big sensors, you never go back.
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I still don't understand what is wrong with Sony's compact camera ... my compact camera is taking great pictures :laugh:
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I'm curious what's settings are you using?(mode, iso, etc)
Any tip to improve my photos?
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Z3c camera doesn't suck, it's "just" above average.
The only other phone with superior camera that rivals Z3C's performance, size and specs is the iPhone 5s to be honest.
Samsung phones have the best cameras overall, but their devices aren't one-hand friendly.
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Pretty much this.
I see nothing but good things about Samsung's phones, but when they get smaller and remove those physical buttons, I'll consider grabbing one... which may be never since it's their signature.
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I'm curious what's settings are you using?(mode, iso, etc)
Any tip to improve my photos?
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There is no universal recipe for taking good photos. All parameters are heavily dependant on the camera specs.
In my case, I'm taking usable photos even at ISO6400 and, with a size reduction afterwards, I can even go higher (12800).
The aperture is dependant on the lens you are using. A too large aperture will lead to blurry edges and soft images on cheap lenses. A too closed one will generate light fringing leading to artefacts. Then there is the focal length .... again, the lenses are behaving totally different.
It's all coming down to trial and error and understanding the limitations of your equipment.
And coming back on-topic, I would love to have full manual controls over the Z3C's camera (including long exposure and RAW data). That will allow for truly great photos with this tiny camera.
The most terrible thing I am concerned about is "soft skin" effect that seems to be always turned on.
See the discussion here: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Soft-Skin-effect/td-p/838361/highlight/false/page/4
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There is no universal recipe for taking good photos. All parameters are heavily dependant on the camera specs.
In my case, I'm taking usable photos even at ISO6400 and, with a size reduction afterwards, I can even go higher (12800).
The aperture is dependant on the lens you are using. A too large aperture will lead to blurry edges and soft images on cheap lenses. A too closed one will generate light fringing leading to artefacts. Then there is the focal length .... again, the lenses are behaving totally different.
It's all coming down to trial and error and understanding the limitations of your equipment.
And coming back on-topic, I would love to have full manual controls over the Z3C's camera (including long exposure and RAW data). That will allow for truly great photos with this tiny camera.
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I think, he thought you took the picture of the camera, with your Z3C. And so, was asking what settings you had on your phone to make the picture of the camera look so good compared to his.
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The most terrible thing I am concerned about is "soft skin" effect that seems to be always turned on.
See the discussion here: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Soft-Skin-effect/td-p/838361/highlight/false/page/4
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Yeah. It's still not fixed in lollipop update.
I just don't understand why they don't fix this bug. It's a simple thing to fix i think, and because of that, front camera isn't useable at all!!
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I think, he thought you took the picture of the camera, with your Z3C. And so, was asking what settings you had on your phone to make the picture of the camera look so good compared to his.
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Actually I took that picture with the z3c just to show what I'm actually using to take photos . The phones camera was on auto but, the camera itself is only part of the picture. There is also framing and there is also light.
BTW, these are a bunch of samples captured today, on manual mode, with z3c running lollipop (for who is interested). In my opinion the quality of the camera is pretty low but still, usable in case of emergency.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B08eVSlv8mIUNnBTcTc5YmlHcVk/view?usp=sharing
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