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Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
TeddyOFLove said:
Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
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The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
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The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
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Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
TeddyOFLove said:
Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
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You can go to stock, and if it has been modified I would flash something if you choose to buy it because you have no idea what he has put on it, even if it's a reputable rom or kernel he could have some script in it, I know it's a little paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry
Of course the battery life will not satisfy you if you come from RAZR maxx but it has the most longest (well at least longer than other competitors ) battery life. Oh and performance is voila . And the s4 is releasing up coming days. So that means s3 turns into cost/performance device. So you should definitely upgrade to s3
Btw if there is a mistake with my grammar or other stuff please ignore it
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It is indeed a Power House with Custom ROM / Custom Kernel and Tweaking....
Give it a shot and u won't regret it....
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Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
TeddyOFLove said:
Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
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http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/29/samsung-galaxy-s3-launched-in-4-new-colours/
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The white one is better. I have the pebble blue one and it got dust under the screen and it's very noticeable while on the white you can't see it.
For the battery just get the official 3000mah extended battery. I'm getting amazing battery life!
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And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:.
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually? <---- Mod Edit: Please don't turn this into a "Best ROM" thread or it will have to be shut down.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:. <br />
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually?
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The bootloader is not locked.
Check the original development for cf auto root to root via Odin.
On the ROM side I personally like Ultima, slim bean and CM10.1 but check them yourself, see which sounds good to you, check the last 10 posts and try the ones that seem best for you.
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The rule he meant was the rule saying no best rom/kernel threads just asking can annoy people, but I'm not a **** like Glebun so I still try to help you
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Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
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Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
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As I said the S3 bootloader doesn't need unlocking, there are a few debloated stock roms, the ones I would reccomend are Omega, Wanamlite and Ultima all can be found in the Android Development.
There are two development sections, Origianal development is mainly for projects build from source or from scratch, for example the offcial CM threads are there, Slimbean is in there, there are also threads for the various kernels, but unofficial CM, AOKP etc ports and samsung based roms are in development because they are not original.
"Best ROM" threads are NOT against the rules. They do always however turn into pissing matches and ultimately flaming starts shortly after. That is why the are frowned upon and closed.
Rules #1 is Search. You can look in the Development section and see which one you think you might like. Then read the last 10 pages for bugs. If that it the one you like, then start at the OP and read, read, read.
Development is for developing something that is of a base ROM, (i.e. stick ROM base)
Original Development is for building from source (i.e. setting up a build environment on your PC and syncing repos).
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I'd like to also mention Rule # 2.3
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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And Rule #10
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
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What it means? When I bought my phone I didn't hear the other person well. If the volume was more than half I didn't understand what they said. But now it ok. Can I ask you what you want to say?
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Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.
Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).
Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol
How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?
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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do
Hey all, been a Samsung fan for years,
Enjoy my tab 2 running cm 10.2 and her infuse running cm 10.1
Heck bought my kid a galaxy player 5.0 instead of an iPod.
I just have a few questions pertaining to this phone.
I'm familiar with how it runs its size and power drain
I would be getting it with at&t
But I am a bit lost on the boot loader issues
Am I to understand that if I have the most updated
Firmware with the newest boot loader that I can't flash ROMs?
Or is this Knox switch just a warranty voiding device?
I have been voiding warranties for years now, this doesn't bother me.
I would probably prefer not to use safe strap, as it would eat storage space. I would prefer twrp or cwm.
If I just choose to root is there anything hindering this?
Does root update the Knox counter?
My understanding is it would since it is an Odin flash.
Thanks for the responses,
I have been reading this forum hit and miss for a while now
And am just requesting some knowledge.
I know how search works I'm asking for clarifications.
Really would rather get her this phone vs the s3
And probably will even if I'm stuck with stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
check the first post in this thread it should answer your questions
So simply put if you have Knox then currently there is nothing you can do but install safe strap. And root doesn't work quite right.
Thank you.
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Honestly, unless you know up front what firmware the phone is pre-loaded with, (I.E you know for certain it's running <XXUD) or unless you intend to run a purely stock phone, you probably want to steer clear of the I95x series of phones in light of Samsung's recent nonsense.
Yes, there's a fair chance some clever dev(s) might find a work around for these 'issues'. But it might take a while. I'd be really surprised if it happens this year, and it will be dependent on how much info gets leaked out of Samsung/and over what timeframe.
At the moment there's not really complete info out there, and that's why everyone's still pretty much scratching their heads trying to figure out how it all works.
I understand the waiting with your fingers crossed process. Did that with the kindle fire HD.
My biggest issue would be the need for root to tether.
Anyway thanks I'll revisit this when/if we get this phone.
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I get that it will have an unlocked bootloader and such. But does the release of this mean no one will bother with unlocking the non dev version. Because id really like me a custom rom.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
Hope that answers your question
I could not wait for a phone that I all ready like... but that being said I wonder if Knox will be on the dev edition? A asop note??? Would be lame!
damn this sucks. the note 2's bootloader was unlocked within a few weeks of release.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
Hope that answers your question
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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limited?? Why
hsj1906 said:
But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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It will be limited because not as many devs will have a DE version of this phone. They might be able to port some roms but it won't be anything close to the note 2 community
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so why will this bootloader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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so why will this bootoader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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Well, the note 3 just happens to have a chastity belt of a bootloader which is also guarded by bastard of a shot gun called knox.
Who's to say any tampering with the boot wont trigger knox and void us all to warranty hell.
I was looking forward to using an unlocked bootloader just to get the kernels ect, but I come from the Droid Bionic so im fairly use to using safestrap.
If I can get the bloat gone, deodexed, with a few cpu scripts ill be happy.
Well I giess id be happy with some TW kit kat roms. As long as it imprives battery life and rids the rom of all un-nessesities.
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Wish I knew about how the bootloader was screwed. I Purchased 2 note 3's at full retail, and sold both of my note 2's, only to find out about the bootloader issue after it was all done. I had been so busy at work I didnt have time to research the note 3 very much. I just assumed it would be similar to the note 2 bootloader. This may be what causes me to leave vzw. I hate that they refuse to allow me to use my phones the way I want.
Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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I bet you feel better about yourself after being rude for no reason.
The note 2 was never intended to be unlocked by Samsung. Adam outler and the xda guys just happened to find a easy way to unlock. Of course once Sammy figured out how they did that, they had to patch that hole and make it harder for devs.
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I thought about turning my 3 in to get the DE version but since safe strap looks like it'll be a go soon I'm not. I think if you use touch wiz roms there's really no need to with the New development on safe strap
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Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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You sound like a people person, a real joy to hang out with.
More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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At no point did I "whine", I stated my situation. I also never said I needed my exit from vzw to be noticed, or that it was anyone's fault other than my own. You just seem to have a need to be negative towards me and my situation. Which, from the beginning I said was my own fault, and that I didnt have time to research because I had been very busy at work. and you immediately began talking down. Realist or not, your still being a rude for no reason. Do we know each other in real life? have I offended you in the past? I dont understand why you have such animosity towards me.
I have been doing 80+ hour work weeks for the past month, and wanted to purchase the phones as a reward to myself, and my wife who starts a new job on monday. I had experience with the note line, and it was an excellent product. So I thought / assumed I would have a similar experience with this product. why that offends you? I have no clue. but by all means, lose as much sleep as you need to over the situation.
Just relax buddy the phone will be unlocked soon enough
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I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming
It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.