I get that it will have an unlocked bootloader and such. But does the release of this mean no one will bother with unlocking the non dev version. Because id really like me a custom rom.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
Hope that answers your question
I could not wait for a phone that I all ready like... but that being said I wonder if Knox will be on the dev edition? A asop note??? Would be lame!
damn this sucks. the note 2's bootloader was unlocked within a few weeks of release.
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As of now beanz said that only safe strap will be worked on for the non dev edition . which means only custom tw Roms. No kernels, no aosp. No one mentioned the possibility of bootloader unlock, as he mentioned time after time to wait for Dev edition.
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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But even with an unlocked bootloader on the dev edition, how many ROMs, kernels, etc. will be available? I know that Beanz and some other devs said they will get it, but the number of ROMs will still be fairly limited. Not sure if it is really worth it.
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It will be limited because not as many devs will have a DE version of this phone. They might be able to port some roms but it won't be anything close to the note 2 community
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so why will this bootloader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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so why will this bootoader never be unlocked if the note 2 took very little time to get unlocked?
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Well, the note 3 just happens to have a chastity belt of a bootloader which is also guarded by bastard of a shot gun called knox.
Who's to say any tampering with the boot wont trigger knox and void us all to warranty hell.
I was looking forward to using an unlocked bootloader just to get the kernels ect, but I come from the Droid Bionic so im fairly use to using safestrap.
If I can get the bloat gone, deodexed, with a few cpu scripts ill be happy.
Well I giess id be happy with some TW kit kat roms. As long as it imprives battery life and rids the rom of all un-nessesities.
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Wish I knew about how the bootloader was screwed. I Purchased 2 note 3's at full retail, and sold both of my note 2's, only to find out about the bootloader issue after it was all done. I had been so busy at work I didnt have time to research the note 3 very much. I just assumed it would be similar to the note 2 bootloader. This may be what causes me to leave vzw. I hate that they refuse to allow me to use my phones the way I want.
Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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Your departure will not be noticed. Should probably research first before spending 1500 dollars.
If your looking for a few investment ideas with no research first, I got a few ideas.
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I bet you feel better about yourself after being rude for no reason.
The note 2 was never intended to be unlocked by Samsung. Adam outler and the xda guys just happened to find a easy way to unlock. Of course once Sammy figured out how they did that, they had to patch that hole and make it harder for devs.
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I thought about turning my 3 in to get the DE version but since safe strap looks like it'll be a go soon I'm not. I think if you use touch wiz roms there's really no need to with the New development on safe strap
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Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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Anyone that buys a phone with no research, at full price, and just expects it to all come together like the previous model is an idiot.
You make your bed, lie in it.
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You sound like a people person, a real joy to hang out with.
More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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More of a realist that doesn't bull**** and gives it to you straight. Probably should research before you press buy on a whim.
I've havw two upgrades on a Verizon Employee account, I get an upgrade every 10 months and yet still haven't just went and blown money just to blow it. Clearly you can afford to spend 1300$ no problem, but don't come here whining because you just expected something.
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At no point did I "whine", I stated my situation. I also never said I needed my exit from vzw to be noticed, or that it was anyone's fault other than my own. You just seem to have a need to be negative towards me and my situation. Which, from the beginning I said was my own fault, and that I didnt have time to research because I had been very busy at work. and you immediately began talking down. Realist or not, your still being a rude for no reason. Do we know each other in real life? have I offended you in the past? I dont understand why you have such animosity towards me.
I have been doing 80+ hour work weeks for the past month, and wanted to purchase the phones as a reward to myself, and my wife who starts a new job on monday. I had experience with the note line, and it was an excellent product. So I thought / assumed I would have a similar experience with this product. why that offends you? I have no clue. but by all means, lose as much sleep as you need to over the situation.
Just relax buddy the phone will be unlocked soon enough
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Just looking an international I9300 ROM development forum, and jealous :crying:, so many amazing custom ROMS like this , and this one, and here for my AT&T model is ...- 2 if you can even call it a "ROM's", -sad. I switched from international SII I9100 which had tons of custom ROMs to I747 for which a cant even download CallRec MOD.
LTE? - thanks, u can keep it! Anyone willing to trade international for I747 ?
The international has been out a bit longer. And you're always gonna see more dev work for an international phone. That's just the way it is. Be patient. It will come man.
Just wait a bit longer, theme section is making a lot progress on theme department, plus we got myn making rom for it too(Idk if you heard about his work but he has done some great things for evo) so is just matter of time, the phone been out for 2 weeks and I think it will be great device for routers and developers
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..AT&T with 2 ROMs, and Verizon with 0 ROMs - 2 most BIG time
Retarded sections ,.. unbelievable, - even to compare to T-Mobile and Sprint with at least 5 ROMs to choose.,
Willing to donate, but ...
Goo Sprint devs!
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Goo Sprint devs!
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Yup sprint developers are really good Verizon too but the problem now is Verizon is locked but I doubt it will be for long
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You had to start a new thread for this? Pretty lame. Since AT&T version just came out why don't you return it and buy the international version? Then you'll have nothing to complain about
I don't know how you expect there to be a bunch of roms out already. The phone was only available with a pre order, and was just released in stores today. Patience.
A wise man once said, "Settle down, Beavis".
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I don't know how you expect there to be a bunch of roms out already. The phone was only available with a pre order, and was just released in stores today. Patience.
A wise man once said, "Settle down, Beavis".
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Exactly, today is the launch day for AT&T. By my count there is 5 ROMs and a lot of devs who just mentioned they just got the phone. Patiences... amazing things are in the works... :highfive:
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You had to start a new thread for this? Pretty lame. Since AT&T version just came out why don't you return it and buy the international version? Then you'll have nothing to complain about
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Yes, why not?? I think i deserve one ,There is so many MUCH meaningless threads around, and i think this one is not a waist , + unfortunately i cant just "return it", so i offer my week old for exchange right in this thread
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Just looking an international I9300 ROM development forum, and jealous :crying:, so many amazing custom ROMS like this , and this one, and here for my AT&T model is ...- 2 if you can even call it a "ROM's", -sad. I switched from international SII I9100 which had tons of custom ROMs to I747 for which a cant even download CallRec MOD.
LTE? - thanks, u can keep it! Anyone willing to trade international for I747 ?
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Hope you drop your phone. Way to put down the devs on the att side. Take it back to the store and go get the international one.
edit: if you can't return it then sell it.
So you give reasons y the international ver is better and you expect to get a trade for your "inferior" version
This is bad marketing
Besides there will be plenty of toms in no time
Also I personally kepp my phone on stock for at least 2 weeks after getting the phone
Mostly just to see what Sammy expects normal people to deal with
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Honestly the stock Rom is running so good i haven't thought of flashing one yet. Heck good battery life has made me even not to root and debloat yet. But anyway i will root soon just to install adblock and tools like TB. My point is that during initial days of my previous phone which is SG1 there were so many issues like lag, gps, rfs file system etc etc which made flashing roms inevitable. But so far i am really enjoying stock software.
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Yes, why not?? I think i deserve one ,There is so many MUCH meaningless threads around, and i think this one is not a waist , + unfortunately i cant just "return it", so i offer my week old for exchange right in this thread
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List your phone one the XDA market place for sale or trade....someone will take it off your hands.
I see what you mean coming from a nexus on aokp and jelly bean back to touchwiz is a huge blah, but when roms are available this device will be amazing!! Just patiently sitting this through.
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I see what you mean coming from a nexus on aokp and jelly bean back to touchwiz is a huge blah, but when roms are available this device will be amazing!! Just patiently sitting this through.
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Locked bootloader
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I was actually thinking of trading my intetnational for the att variant. Then I remembered all the developement we have, I'm on MIUi right now. When the att version gets more I'll probably trade, should be soon!
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The phone became widely available in the US just a week ago. Give it some time.
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Different variants for the us and Canada also hurt and slow the initial development as well
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Every time I see people complaining about custom ROMs for the S3 (or any other phone) I get miffed.
Stop *****ing about what other people do or don't do for you. If you want a custom ROM that meets your needs, build one yourself or pay someone to do it.
The people who create these ROMs do so because they love doing it, not because it's their job (Though people do donate to them, I am sure they do not get what creating ROMs like this is really worth).
I see you're on Telus, well the Telus phone only came out 10 days ago, I know because I got one on the first day. How long do you think it takes to make a custom Android ROM for a phone? I have no idea, but I am sure there are hundreds of hours spent on creating each and every one.
Besides, did you get the S3 because of the custom ROMs available for it or because it is the best phone out there right now? This little beast can do things no other phone can dream of and you ***** about custom ROMs.
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To insure our best chances of being able to root, what should we do? I've never rooted anything before so this will be my first time but I hear about alot of problems with Knox and what not. When I pick up my phone, should I not allow them to touch it or watch what they are doing so they can't install anything? What should I disable right when I get home? I'm a noob to this and I searched and didn't see anything,,atleast I don't think so.
They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
I would not take any updates if they are pushed out immediately after launch.
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Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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Sudbury78 said:
Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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I agree ... I can live without custom ROMs/Kernels, but no root would be rough. No Root Explorer, no AdAway, no LMT Launcher would be a rough adjustment. Ugh, and I forgot all about that stupid Verizon WiFi notification nag Oh boy ... Stock is going to be HARD! LOL
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Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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LillieBennett said:
Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
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Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
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I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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LillieBennett said:
I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
vampire5003 said:
Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
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It was released for the note 2:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-verizon-galaxy-note-2-developer-edition-product-page One can hope; we're all Google-Gaga over the specs.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
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When wouldn't we get root with a locked bootloader? And devs on Verizon aren't just going to switch over to another carrier for a phone. Have you checked out some of the crazy stuff they've been able to accomplish on Motorola phones? Or safestrap for the locked bootloader s4? Well be totally fine. I'd be surprised if we didn't have root on launch day.
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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Jayster0966 said:
I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.
Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.
Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes
Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming
It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.
I'm guessing I should just ditch my Verizon note pro 12.2 because there isn't going to be any developer support. Seems like a waste.
JarkMackson said:
I'm guessing I should just ditch my Verizon note pro 12.2 because there isn't going to be any developer support. Seems like a waste.
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Please see Sbreen94's last post in the development threat - [ROM][P900][DEC 31]Hyperdrive KK RLS1.1║Tab S Feature║Total Customization 1 2 3 - - if you decide to ditch your p905v maybe Sbreen94 can use it to develop another excellent Rom for P905 owners. The P900 guys delivered a device to hm and he produced. Maybe thats what needed in this case for the P905 versions.
I also have the 905V, and while I love the tablet, I'm really itching for some development for this thing. Going forward, this will be the last tablet I'll every buy through Verizon because I'm tired of their locking shenanigans.
tdetroit said:
I also have the 905V, and while I love the tablet, I'm really itching for some development for this thing. Going forward, this will be the last tablet I'll every buy through Verizon because I'm tired of their locking shenanigans.
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That's why I went with the Wifi version and carry a hotspot. ROM and root development for tablets already suffer from lower market share but couple that with carrier influence and things are even harder. At the price point this larger tablet comes in its no surprise that development is slower for it.
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Yup, you live, you learn, and I've learned an expensive lesson. I've had the Tablet for 10 months and it's going to my Spouse this summer while I look for something that has more development behind it.
As I understand the 905v has a locked boot loader is easy to root but no flashing
I guess next time it's wifi and a separate hotspot. It really does suck because I bought the lte version mainly for the better processor but it was nice not having to carry around ANOTHER piece of equipment that needed charging. I really do want to love this tablet. Maybe someone will trade me for the rooted wifi version and a hotspot. I think I'd be totally down for that.
905v can be rooted just not custom recovery
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epic4grooted said:
905v can be rooted just not custom recovery
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Yup, and no custom recovery = no rom.
So what!!
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mobilephil said:
So what!!
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No need to be snarky, though I do understand where you are coming from. My SM-P900 is rooted and still on the stock ROM so I don't think it is absolutely necessary to have a custom ROM to get the custom features that they bring. It does take a lot more work though and not having the safety net of custom recovery to restore nandroid backup images or wipe dalvic cache is a big deal.
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Ha ha yea sorry for the snarky thing . I know the expression well ! My thing is so many people complaining about this tablet so why bother getting the thing!
I bought it knowing all about it it suits me down to the ground for all my personal needs in computing so I don't go around being a mardy sod like so many people on this forum. All the best !
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