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Nexus 4-5

I will get my nexus 4 in summer, maybe may or June, so should I wait for the n5 or just stick with the n4 ?
And isn't the hardware on the n4 is going to do great handling any apps or games without any problems for a few years ? I mean it's the best out there I think...
1 last thing what about the back glass cover does it crack easily? Even if I bought a grab or sth?
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Your search button not working mate?
There are 10 threads for each of your questions asked.
1.Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

Grammatically challenged I see
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Krooked22 said:
Grammatically challenged I see
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Give him a break guys, he's using the xda app and obviously there isn't a search button. And it would have been easier to just answer him than try to be a mean mum.
To OP: You wouldn't regret getting a Nexus 4 mate. The hardware would undoubtedly be outdated in a few years, but it certainly won't fall behind by that much. And you wouldn't feel too far behind from new android versions since this is a nexus.
The glass I think is fragile but putting a case on the back would definitely protect it. But temperature changes (sudden ones) are rumored to affect the glass and cause them to spontaneously break without producing splinters. Based on the data though, one can assume that only a few units are affected by this condition (mine too, unfortunately )
Anyways, it's your decision. If you think you can wait, then get the 5, but if your hands are itchy and want to get a sexy device, get the n4
In my opinion though, wait till june. If the nexus 5 launches and you don't like it, then get the 4, if you do though, then obviously get the nexus 5.
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Im getting pissed off of people whining about using the search button rather than just answering. If everyone just used the search button you would quickly have a dead community.

Nexus four just recently came out... Already talking about Nexus five?
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Crisisx1 said:
Nexus four just recently came out... Already talking about Nexus five?
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It's already announced with the specs on phone arena and other sites I can Google it and see for yourself; tegra 4, full hd display, 2gb ram and the price omg
And the specs are so promising, that's the reason why i made this thread.
And the rumored price is said to be around 300$
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anonymousss said:
It's already announced with the specs on phone arena and other sites I can Google it and see for yourself; tegra 4, full hd display, 2gb ram and the price omg
And the specs are so promising, that's the reason why i made this thread.
And the rumored price is said to be around 300$
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Who will it be producing it?
And does Google even know about this?

http://bgr.com/2013/01/17/nexus-5-release-date-nexus-7-7-294121/

anonymousss said:
It's already announced with the specs on phone arena and other sites I can Google it and see for yourself; tegra 4, full hd display, 2gb ram and the price omg
And the specs are so promising, that's the reason why i made this thread.
And the rumored price is said to be around 300$
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People making stuff up to drive traffic to their blog does not constitute an 'announcement'.
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I'd say hold out for the N5 if it were to be released around May. I doubt that since the N4 was released just a few months ago. Better yet, wait for that Moto X phone..

chrisrozon said:
People making stuff up to drive traffic to their blog does not constitute an 'announcement'.
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Exactly and also it mentions tegra 4? That outdated piece of garbage. Qualcomm is currently the best chip. Agreed tegra has better gaming performance but overall Qualcomm blows away tegra.
Anyway there won't be another nexus coming till October. May be they will have a Moto X phone or something but not nexus. That happens once a year during holidays.
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kirdroid said:
Exactly and also it mentions tegra 4? That outdated piece of garbage. Qualcomm is currently the best chip. Agreed tegra has better gaming performance but overall Qualcomm blows away tegra.
Anyway there won't be another nexus coming till October. May be they will have a Moto X phone or something but not nexus. That happens once a year during holidays.
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i agree with you about tegra, but the tegra 4 isnt outdated, it hasnt even been in a device yet...

anonymousss said:
It's already announced with the specs on phone arena and other sites I can Google it and see for yourself; tegra 4, full hd display, 2gb ram and the price omg
And the specs are so promising, that's the reason why i made this thread.
And the rumored price is said to be around 300$
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http://bgr.com/2013/01/17/nexus-5-release-date-nexus-7-7-294121/
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BGR might be the WORST tech blog for news. There is no way in hell Google would risk enraging everyone who just got their nexus 4 by releasing another phone in six months.
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mbucks911 said:
i agree with you about tegra, but the tegra 4 isnt outdated, it hasnt even been in a device yet...
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Haha... got confused with tegra 3
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joshnichols189 said:
BGR might be the WORST tech blog for news. There is no way in hell Google would risk enraging everyone who just got their nexus 4 by releasing another phone in six months.
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Agree not going to happen... But I'm not complaining if they release every 6 months. More fun more frequently
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Tegra 4 will be better than current s4 pro on n4 ofc but tegra 4 won't be better than snapdragon 800 for sure at last cpu wise
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Then i guess I will buy the nexus 4 then if n5 isn't released yet in May
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The glass on the back is pretty tough. Mine accidentally fell from a the second floor of my gf house and nothing happened to it. And the cover i had was no big deal, was an Sline.
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Anyone else notice the One is faster?

Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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Joshua3109 said:
Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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its the hardware, and maybe some proprietary bits in the software.

I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Joshua3109 said:
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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there are always optimizations that can make thing a little better. most of the optimizations(like dalvik) on nexus phones would be propritary. plus the cpu is a more recent revision(among other things).

Joshua3109 said:
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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Of course it's faster. It has a Snapdragon 600 processor. In other breaking news, water is wet, and the sky is blue.

jzero88 said:
Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.

LooieENG said:
I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.
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They do do their own optimizations... they optimize their Android manufacturer skins (TouchWiz, HTC Sense, etc)

It may feel faster but that's only cos of the transitions HTC have added in, they have minimised many that are in stock android and sped up a few as well, thus overall giving the illusion that it runs faster :L
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Its probably the software HTC uses. Try the S4 Touch wiz launcher on the Nexus 4. Really smooth. Smoother than the stock one
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Joshua3109 said:
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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Ace42 said:
That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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i hear, rumors of course, that they are gonna focus(pardon the pun) on the camera on the next nexus.

The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.

scream4cheese said:
The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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I'd have to avoid it. I hate HTC. My phone LCD cable stops working and you know what they told me?
"You took the HTC dev unlock, it'll cost $250 to fix"
Yes because software breaks your display cable. And thats when I ran it over with my truck
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scream4cheese said:
The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.

Robogar said:
Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.
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They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.

coolqf said:
They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.
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I think a Sony Xperia Nexus sounds pretty neat. But if Google makes a Motorola Nexus, it better be mind blowing.
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Motorola

What was the point of Google's purchase of Motorola if they keep having LG and others make their phones and tablets?
This question, I'm sure, is born of ignorance, but I'm just curious.

wvcadle said:
What was the point of Google's purchase of Motorola if they keep having LG and others make their phones and tablets?
This question, I'm sure, is born of ignorance, but I'm just curious.
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Because Motorola is owned by Google, they gave up their rights to make Nexus devices. Each year manufacturers bid against one another to see who will make the next Nexus, and it wouldn't be fair to others if Google used Motorola because they own them.
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Zombienaut said:
Because Motorola is owned by Google, they gave up their rights to make Nexus devices. Each year manufacturers bid against one another to see who will make the next Nexus, and it wouldn't be fair to others if Google used Motorola because they own them.
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Well, true or not, that doesn't make any sense. Why would a company not be allowed to manufacture their own product?

wvcadle said:
Well, true or not, that doesn't make any sense. Why would a company not be allowed to manufacture their own product?
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Even though Motorola is owned by Google, they're still two different companies. Motorola does not own the Nexus line, it's still a Google device. So Motorola will continue to make their phones, I.e. Droid and whatever else, with little involvement from Google.
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Zombienaut said:
Even though Motorola is owned by Google, they're still two different companies. Motorola does not own the Nexus line, it's still a Google device. So Motorola will continue to make their phones, I.e. Droid and whatever else, with little involvement from Google.
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So what you are saying is: Google owns the nexus line, Google owns the Motorola but somehow Motorola doesn't own the nexus line.... It kinda contradicts the fact that Google owns the Motorola but on the other hand it doesn't.
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Many companies purchase other companies, but continue to run them as separate entities. Google put some of their people into management positions at Motorola, but have yet to swallow the company whole. As far as the Nexus line, Google wanted to keep its stable of manufacturer partners happy by keeping the bidding process open to all. Motorola is free to bid along with other companies, but will receive no special consideration.
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wvcadle said:
What was the point of Google's purchase of Motorola if they keep having LG and others make their phones and tablets?
This question, I'm sure, is born of ignorance, but I'm just curious.
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Patents simple as that.
Google now has thousands of patents that it can defend its self with or use as a bargaining tool.

I think it's totally possible that Motorola will make a nexus phone in the near future.
There's no reason why they wouldn't.
Maybe Motorola is trying to keep a small footprint right now because they want to gauge the success of the x phone first.
The markets are already flooded with android phones. LG probably isn't going to make much profit on a phone without an established carrier to help market it. You have to also consider that the phone carriers have new plans that allow people to upgrade their phones more frequently. This makes a non-contract phone even LESS attractive.
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Because someone had to shut-dafuack-down this company!

PsyOr said:
Because someone had to shut-dafuack-down this company!
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If you're implying that Motorola is a bad company then you're severely wrong.
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MrBelter said:
Patents simple as that.
Google now has thousands of patents that it can defend its self with or use as a bargaining tool.
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Pretty sure that this is the main reason Google bought Moto
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Moto X will skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4

via Motorola VP of Product Management, Punit Soni:
https://plus.google.com/+PunitSoni/posts/LAKKMnEE6CQ
We are moving directly to 4.4. I dont like to discuss timing. It just puts a lot of stress on the team, and there is always a chance we find something which delays us a bit.
Rest assured, we are on it. You have seen the speed with which we are moving as a Google company, that shall continue.
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You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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Sweet! I'll let you guys know how 4.4 is when my Nexus 5 is delivered in a few days
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PerverseImp said:
You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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They haven't done anything yet?

eallan said:
They haven't done anything yet?
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I'm somewhat optimistic about it because they were relatively prompt in sending out an update for the camera. Not their fault that some of the carriers dragged ass.

eallan said:
They haven't done anything yet?
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They have broken the applications apart from the os and put them in the play store. Consistently updated their applications. Reached out to the developers in the community for suggestions. Have addressed a new concern of mine with the announcement of skipping 4.3. Saying that they haven't done anything is a bit of a stretch.
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PerverseImp said:
You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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I went from an OG Droid (amazing, started my love for android), Droid 2 (meh), Droid 3 (meh), Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S4, now the Moto X. I kind of feel the way I did about the OG Droid with the Moto X. If Moto keeps pushing out quality phones like the X, with fairly timely updates, I'm going to stick with them. Hopefully Google and Motorola don't let us down

This is great news... May keep from buying a nexus 5....but I'm still gonna handle one just to see it and see how it performs and feels. I've been very pleased with my moto X though, more than I have with any other device.
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mhsbrian said:
This is great news... May keep from buying a nexus 5....but I'm still gonna handle one just to see it and see how it performs and feels. I've been very pleased with my moto X though, more than I have with any other device.
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Agree
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Totally.

I'm sorry about that. I was reading the thread and my one year old got hold of my nexus and must have accidentally posted. My apologies.
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i dont mind this at all.
i mean i don't get caught up in the version numbers per se, but the features.
i honestly am not really sure what is so different about 4.2 and even 4.1 other than it hink some stuff in the settings bar is slightly different. 4.3 added trim support natively but from the anandtech review i know moto backported that to their version of 4.2.2. so that doesnt matter either.
4.4 at least i figure is a big enough jump. before the moto x i was using a razr M on 4.1.2 and honestly i can barely tell the difference OS wise between any of these (and i had 4.3 on a nexus 7 for a while, honestly all the jelly bean labeled 4.1-4.3 variants are basically the same)

sleepyguy007 said:
i dont mind this at all.
i mean i don't get caught up in the version numbers per se, but the features.
i honestly am not really sure what is so different about 4.2 and even 4.1 other than it hink some stuff in the settings bar is slightly different. 4.3 added trim support natively but from the anandtech review i know moto backported that to their version of 4.2.2. so that doesnt matter either.
4.4 at least i figure is a big enough jump. before the moto x i was using a razr M on 4.1.2 and honestly i can barely tell the difference OS wise between any of these (and i had 4.3 on a nexus 7 for a while, honestly all the jelly bean labeled 4.1-4.3 variants are basically the same)
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Well besides trim it also adds opengl 3.0 support, which every currently retailing Nexus device supports.
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Motorola g 2 pics

Looks really nice
http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=4&articleid=26217645
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Keeps the same 720p screen what do people think about that?? And are they front speakers I see. Hope they are.
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Probably fake
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In case this is real, i think there is no reason to upgrade.

Sergolea said:
In case this is real, i think there is no reason to upgrade.
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I would just because I'm still using the HSPA+ version. Chances are the next Moto G will have LTE by default. That's worth an upgrade for me.
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am i the only one who dislike the front speaker?

tonyleeloveyou said:
am i the only one who dislike the front speaker?
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I also dislike that

maccboy2010 said:
Keeps the same 720p screen what do people think about that?? And are they front speakers I see. Hope they are.
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You are saying it wrong... It doesn't "keep the 720p screen"... It keeps the 320 dpi... Our eyes can't see the difference in the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 screen, because we can only see a 320 dpi image from 20 cm... Unless you use cardboard, you will NEVER notice the difference.
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Yeah the front speakers are horrible I wouldn't upgrade even if it costs 100 euros. A phone must be fast and stuff but also good looking :beer:
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Yeah the front speakers are horrible I wouldn't upgrade even if it costs 100 euros. A phone must be fast and stuff but also good looking :beer:
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I think they look kinda cool....
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I think they look kinda cool....
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To each their own of course, the upper one is cool but the lower just doesn't look good to me
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I prefer the rear or bottom speaker placement. It looks like a Moto E successor instead of Moto G. Some Brazilian news sites are saying it could be Moto M.

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absolutely not, but in some cases may be useful

If it comes in India before G 4G and have more RAM and SD card slot I will buy it

Unfortunely That was moto e guys :silly:
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masruri03 said:
Unfortunely That was moto e guys :silly:
https://www.google.co.id/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=ZVjmA8B3tJD2vM&tbnid=yPUpX2JrAwqByM:&ved=0CAEQjxw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2014%2F5%2F22%2F5737290%2Fmotorola-moto-e-review&ei=KU3RU8G8FNG6uATZ0YHgDw&bvm=bv.71667212,d.c2E&psig=AFQjCNE26qL0PljJ85hAGoujhOnfczwP_Q&ust=1406312089943737
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No it isn't. Notice the front facing camera at the top right? That, and the front panel is far too lengthy to be a Moto E.

I wonder if it will be even cheaper and if yes, and they will but better cpu and gpu there, what will be the cut? without gorilla glass? maybe using TN display this time? weaker battery? the price cut must have to come from somewhere

PomstaZLesa said:
I wonder if it will be even cheaper and if yes, and they will but better cpu and gpu there, what will be the cut? without gorilla glass? maybe using TN display this time? weaker battery? the price cut must have to come from somewhere
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1. I doubt the screen will be touched, making the next G with a worse screen is waaaaay to Windows (that Lumia 530)... It will just make everything look bad, and Motorola focused on user experience with the Moto series.
2. The battery can't be modified if they put another CPU, the Cortex A7 is the only decent architecture for this battery size, new cpu + smaller batter = 0 battery life.
I doubt it will have any other changes appart from a new camera (this is really a painting canvas) and the front facing speaker.
The good part is, if they keep the same chipset and they release it with Android L, it means we are surely getting M, maybe even N (or if not officially, it will be easy to port, like novafusion team does with the S3 mini, xperia U, galaxy s advance and ace 2, which have the same chipset and use almost identical cyanogenmod builds)
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I can't wait for new g or the x to release all Motorola need to start doing now is a massive advertising and start getting people to no about it. Knock Samsung off top spot.
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