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Can I control my HTPC using my Wizard?

I have a HTPC (without a mouse or kb) plugged into my TV, and while I have a remote (IMON 2.4G DT) the mouse control isn't too great. What I would like to do is use my Wizard as an input device, primarily for the mouse but probably also for keyboard
I thought Total Input sounded promising, but I have two issues with that:
1. 'Server is unreachable' - which presumably is just a matter of configuration of the network, and hopefully I should be able to sort that, and
2. (and this is the bit I really need help with) TI requires the NET Framework 1.1, a consequence of which is the PC can no longer boot straight into the default desktop, but now stops at the 'Select a user' screen.... where you click WITH A MOUSE which user you want to log on as
So, my question is, does anyone have any novel solutions or can suggest a piece of software that will alow me to do what I want?
I really don't want another mouse and keyboard cluttering up the living room, and to be able to use the Wizard as the input device would be really handy.

You can fix that login issue by Clicking 'Start' > 'Run'
Then type "Control userpasswords2" (without quots)
Then set the default user

Great stuff ! Thanks for that hiazle, I'll give it a try
Is there anyone out there who has got this app working and how did you find it? Does it work well?

Mellon said:
Great stuff ! Thanks for that hiazle, I'll give it a try
Is there anyone out there who has got this app working and how did you find it? Does it work well?
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Have you got a link to it? I've not seen it before, and it sound like it might be handy...

http://www.xronox.com/XronoxSite/TotalInputInfo.aspx
which is free, but they also do an all-singing all dancing version which isn't, but you can get a trial.

VNC: Unsupported trackpad right-click, scroll, click & drag

Hi guys -
Shocked that no one else has mentioned this issue on XDA yet, actually...
One of the reasons I bought the keyboard dock for the Transformer was for the possibility of using VNC / RDP clients to control remote machines. This works brilliantly with the built-in client (Splashtop) -- with 2 mildly important exceptions: trackpad scrolling and right-click.
Right-clicking obviously backs out of the session completely (as this is hard-mapped to Android "back")... which is only less frustrating than 2-finger scrolling actually crashing the client and ending the session. If you even touch the trackpad with two fingers, you're finished. (Note: I've tried using USB mice and other clients as well with the same result.)
I'm really surprised at the oversight on ASUS' part here. The transformer and dock would be the perfect solution for this task if it were not for these issues.
So... as I'm not a programmer or dev (like some of the brilliant minds that grace this forum) I'm wondering -- is this something that could be fixed?

Trevor_g said:
Hi guys -
Shocked that no one else has mentioned this issue on XDA yet, actually...
One of the reasons I bought the keyboard dock for the Transformer was for the possibility of using VNC / RDP clients to control remote machines. This works brilliantly with the built-in client (Splashtop) -- with 2 mildly important exceptions: trackpad scrolling and right-click.
Right-clicking obviously backs out of the session completely (as this is hard-mapped to Android "back")... which is only less frustrating than 2-finger scrolling actually crashing the client and ending the session. If you even touch the trackpad with two fingers, you're finished. (Note: I've tried using USB mice and other clients as well with the same result.)
I'm really surprised at the oversight on ASUS' part here. The transformer and dock would be the perfect solution for this task if it were not for these issues.
So... as I'm not a programmer or dev (like some of the brilliant minds that grace this forum) I'm wondering -- is this something that could be fixed?
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I believe it is probably possible to remap the right click button by editing the kernel and recompiling it (just like how people got rid of the tap click), thus letting you make it right click instead of "back". Some dev who looked at Transformer's kernel can probably give a definite answer.

i believe long press left click=right click
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Hmmm... that sounds positive. A hack to switch back and forth from "back" to "right-click" mapping (depending on the active app) would be helpful here.
However, the lack of right-click support isn't nearly as bad as the trackpad scrolling bug. The lack of this basic functionality makes remote clients really horrible to use.
Add one more feature to the list here: click and drag. This doesn't work also, meaning that the only way to scroll anything in VNC is to actually point and click. Yeeesh!

Trevor_g said:
Hmmm... that sounds positive. A hack to switch back and forth from "back" to "right-click" mapping (depending on the active app) would be helpful here.
However, the lack of right-click support isn't nearly as bad as the trackpad scrolling bug. The lack of this basic functionality makes remote clients really horrible to use.
Add one more feature to the list here: click and drag. This doesn't work also, meaning that the only way to scroll anything in VNC is to actually point and click. Yeeesh!
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Uh, what VNC app are you using? Two-Finger scrolling works on any of the ones I use (Splashtop, RDP) and drag is just click, click and hold and then move your mouse.

frosty5689 said:
Uh, what VNC app are you using? Two-Finger scrolling works on any of the ones I use (Splashtop, RDP) and drag is just click, click and hold and then move your mouse.
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I'm not speaking of the touchscreen functionality; these issues affect the trackpad on the keyboard dock making it almost unusable for this purpose.
I'm using Splashtop (bundled software -- but regardless, these issues are present on any VNC software I've tried). Two-finger scrolling does NOT work on the trackpad (if you try, your session will actually crash). Neither does click and drag, and right-click backs you out of the session completely. :s

Click and drag works in the HD version of Splashtop

Remote RDP Enterprise/free? supports drag and right click

Thanks for the input!
gwai_jai: Splashtop HD does seem to support click and drag - good find (discovered that recently). Now, if only we could find a way to map right-click and scroll (especially) to the trackpad on the keyboard dock...
dude2k5: When you say that this program supports right-click, is it just some kind of "virtual" / on-screen solution, or does the right mouse button on the trackpad actually work correctly?

Trevor_g said:
dude2k5: When you say that this program supports right-click, is it just some kind of "virtual" / on-screen solution, or does the right mouse button on the trackpad actually work correctly?
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Supports physical right-click with the right button on the TF trackpad.
That is my primary RDP app now because it's the only one that properly supports right-mouse.
Two finger scrolling on the trackpad doesn't work for me though.

Trevor_g said:
Thanks for the input!
gwai_jai: Splashtop HD does seem to support click and drag - good find (discovered that recently). Now, if only we could find a way to map right-click and scroll (especially) to the trackpad on the keyboard dock...
dude2k5: When you say that this program supports right-click, is it just some kind of "virtual" / on-screen solution, or does the right mouse button on the trackpad actually work correctly?
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oh man iam waiting for scroll on the trackpad so desperately (two finger scroll on the touchpad of the dock)...then the transformer is perfect!!!
now iam using splashtop HD and i have to use page up/down for scrolling in windows.
opened a request on the splashtop forum support-remote.splashtop.com/entries/20210293-better-support-for-touchpad-dock-asus-transformer

I'm currently 'hacking' android-vnc-viewer (OpenSource) to support the TF touchpad. I have right-mouse-button and mouse tracking working although the former is a bit of a hack and the latter is laggy. I'll look into two-finger scrolling...
It's not perfect, contains debugging, and I need to do a fair amount of cleaning
up before I can commit patches to the opensource code project, but if people want to beta test I can stick a build up someplace.

YES!
Fantastic that someone is working on this! I'm sure I'm not the only person who would be willing to serve as a beta tester...
The first RDP app to support right-click, 2-finger scroll and mouse tracking would make it BIG I'm sure.
2-finger scrolling is huge... I agree with the previous poster. The Transformer handles this so well in Android, and dragging scroll bars and / or being forced to use 'page down' to navigate really does ruin the experience.
Keep us updated, mamoulian666...

rilot said:
Supports physical right-click with the right button on the TF trackpad.
That is my primary RDP app now because it's the only one that properly supports right-mouse.
Two finger scrolling on the trackpad doesn't work for me though.
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This sounds promising as well - I'll look into it. Thanks for the heads up!

OK here's a link to my current build:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13927052/androidVNC-branch_antlersoft_eeePadBuild_001.apk
As far as I know it's only VNC though, no RDP!
Because it's not signed it will probably ask you to uninstall the Market version first, it also won't use the settings so use the export function in the settings screen before uninstalling.
It should show some toasts on startup indicating that it has detected the Tranformer's touchpad, you should switch to 'mouse input mode' to get the pointer following and right-mouse-button. There might be some other toasts in there for my debugging purposes, if any are particularly annoying I can comment them out quite easily.
No two-finger yet, but any other suggestions/problems let me know.

Has anyone tried the build I put up?
If so can I have some feedback please - does it work OK for you?

It wouldn't install over the market version, but removing that manually first and then installing your worked.
As for right click, it works for thouchpad
It doesnt work for usb mouse, right button on it does nothing (don't remember it if it backed out of the app before).

I like the improments you made to the android-vnc app. Could you please post a version of the app without the toasts? Every so often one of them gets stuck on the screen and won't go away for ~5 min.
I like the right click option but the mouse tracking is very jumpy. I find that when the vnc pointer lags behind the trackpad the two won't line up again and will stay a fixed distance apart. Also is there a way to make the movement on the trackpad not act like a click and drag?

Xtralogic is the way to go. It supports right click (dock and Bluetooth). It also support the scroll wheel on Bluetooth. Give it a try on the Transformer, you'll be surprised how well it works (and how integrated it is).
Cheers.

OUYA, XBMC, FLIRC and an Apple Remote together - it finally works!

Hey everyone,
it took me some time to get this to work but if you happen to own an Ouya and a FLIRC Dongle you are now finally able to use any remote compatible with FLIRC (which is almost every infrared-remote including Apple Remotes) in order to control the console and especially control XBMC on it.
I created a tutorial explaining how here:
peterfranssen.de/2013/08/04/getting-flirc-to-work-with-ouya-and-xbmc/
Just some more input for the eager
Cheers for the help from the Android section on rooting! :good:
hmmpf- I'm not allowed to post links, yet. Sorry for the fuss. Maybe a Mod can change this post into a real link...

Thanks for the tutorial, i just bought a flirc and i will use this.

Cool, will try it out
Sent from my LT30p using Tapatalk 4

Hi , I followed your instructions and have tried to program the Apple remote . I have the up , down , left , right working , but the middle , menu and play/pause buttons do not work for me even though the programming went fine. any ideas as to why or what I might try to fix this ? Thanks by the way this will be a great help when I get it all working. Cheers !!!!

http://www.peterfranssen.de/2013/08/04/getting-flirc-to-work-with-ouya-and-xbmc/

Did you map the keys with:
- SELECT on the remote = 1 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- BACK on the remote = 2 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- PLAY/PAUSE on the remote = F3 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
?
If yes:
Could it be you misspelled the filename in the cat-command while copying it into your system/usr/keylayout folder? Look into that folder on your ouya (use a file-explorer) and check if it exists correctly: name should be Vendor_20a0_Product_0001.kl
If both doesn't work we should check whether there is a new vendor number with flirc...

c6ke said:
Did you map the keys with:
- SELECT on the remote = 1 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- BACK on the remote = 2 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- PLAY/PAUSE on the remote = F3 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
?
If yes:
Could it be you misspelled the filename in the cat-command while copying it into your system/usr/keylayout folder? Look into that folder on your ouya (use a file-explorer) and check if it exists correctly: name should be Vendor_20a0_Product_0001.kl
If both doesn't work we should check whether there is a new vendor number with flirc...
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Too bad I couldn't use this and also external HDD :/ wish ouya had more USB ports.

c6ke said:
Did you map the keys with:
- SELECT on the remote = 1 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- BACK on the remote = 2 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- PLAY/PAUSE on the remote = F3 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
?
If yes:
Could it be you misspelled the filename in the cat-command while copying it into your system/usr/keylayout folder? Look into that folder on your ouya (use a file-explorer) and check if it exists correctly: name should be Vendor_20a0_Product_0001.kl
If both doesn't work we should check whether there is a new vendor number with flirc...[/QUOte
Thanks for your reply , I will check all of that. And report back......
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c6ke said:
Did you map the keys with:
- SELECT on the remote = 1 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- BACK on the remote = 2 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
- PLAY/PAUSE on the remote = F3 on the keyboard in FLIRC software
?
If yes:
Could it be you misspelled the filename in the cat-command while copying it into your system/usr/keylayout folder? Look into that folder on your ouya (use a file-explorer) and check if it exists correctly: name should be Vendor_20a0_Product_0001.kl
If both doesn't work we should check whether there is a new vendor number with flirc...
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All fixed the .kl file was not in it's proper place . Now it is and everything work wonderfully !!! My GF loves it now she can use the simple apple remote instead of the game controller . Bravo Peter !!!! Thanks !!!!!
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Double Keypresses
Anyone here having an issue with the AppleTV 2 remote and FLIRC/Ouya/XBMC?
I am having double key presses a lot of the time. I have re-programmed this thing quite a few times trying to eliminate it.
Any suggestions?

[GUIDE] OUYA controller on Windows (working 100%)

Hey guys,
I thought I'd chime in on using the OUYA controller under Windows as I finally have it working 100%.
I recommend using vJoy in conjunction with Universal Joystick Remapper. vJoy installs a virtual controller driver whereas Universal Joystick Remapper lets you forward (and tweak) the input from the OUYA controller to the virtual one. By doing this, you can have a fully working D-pad, both thumb sticks working and you can get rid of the annoying z-axis value being created by the left trigger.
1. Download and install vJoy. As I'm a new user, I'm not allowed to post external links, so I'm afraid you'll have to use Google.
2. Open 'Configure vJoy' from the start menu and copy the settings found in the first picture attached to this post: 1.png.
3. Download and install Universal Joystick Remapper. Again, sorry but you'll have to use Google.
4. Download the attached zip file ujr.zip, which contains the configuration file (ini) for Universal Joystick Remapper and unzip it in the correct folder.
5. Open Universal Joystick Remapper and keep it running while playing your games.
At this point you're done! But in case you'd like to use your OUYA controller as a 360 controller, you can also run this configuration in conjunction with the Xbox 360 Controller Emulator x360ce.
1. Download and install as you would usually do. There's plenty of information out there if you're not familiar with it.
2. Open up x360ce.exe and configure it as in the 2nd picture I attached: 2.png.
3. Make sure to apply the settings from the picture to the vJoy device and not your actual OUYA controller. Also, as the OUYA controller shows up as controller 2 in x360ce, I loaded up the 'clear' preset for controller 2. This way we're only using the vJoy virtual controller in x360ce and not the actual OUYA one.
Hope this helps! This is my first guide, so forgive me if it's not completely clear and not according to the xda standards. :angel:

tymex said:
Hey guys,
I thought I'd chime in on using the OUYA controller under Windows as I finally have it working 100%.
I recommend using vJoy in conjunction with Universal Joystick Remapper. vJoy installs a virtual controller driver whereas Universal Joystick Remapper lets you forward (and tweak) the input from the OUYA controller to the virtual one. By doing this, you can have a fully working D-pad, both thumb sticks working and you can get rid of the annoying z-axis value being created by the left trigger.
1. Download and install vJoy. As I'm a new user, I'm not allowed to post external links, so I'm afraid you'll have to use Google.
2. Open 'Configure vJoy' from the start menu and copy the settings found in the first picture attached to this post: 1.png.
3. Download and install Universal Joystick Remapper. Again, sorry but you'll have to use Google.
4. Download the attached zip file ujr.zip, which contains the configuration file (ini) for Universal Joystick Remapper and unzip it in the correct folder.
5. Open Universal Joystick Remapper and keep it running while playing your games.
At this point you're done! But in case you'd like to use your OUYA controller as a 360 controller, you can also run this configuration in conjunction with the Xbox 360 Controller Emulator x360ce.
1. Download and install as you would usually do. There's plenty of information out there if you're not familiar with it.
2. Open up x360ce.exe and configure it as in the 2nd picture I attached: 2.png.
3. Make sure to apply the settings from the picture to the vJoy device and not your actual OUYA controller. Also, as the OUYA controller shows up as controller 2 in x360ce, I loaded up the 'clear' preset for controller 2. This way we're only using the vJoy virtual controller in x360ce and not the actual OUYA one.
Hope this helps! This is my first guide, so forgive me if it's not completely clear and not according to the xda standards. :angel:
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Thanks a lot man. I don't have anything to play with the controller on the PC, but with this, I'm sure I'll find a lot of interesting stuff. Again, thanks a lot...

ahmadshawki said:
Thanks a lot man. I don't have anything to play with the controller on the PC, but with this, I'm sure I'll find a lot of interesting stuff. Again, thanks a lot...
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I see the purpose, I just don't see the point. The Ouya controller is of poor quality compared to comparable hardware, so why would one limit their gaming experience? Thanks none the less.

drlamb said:
I see the purpose, I just don't see the point. The Ouya controller is of poor quality compared to comparable hardware, so why would one limit their gaming experience? Thanks none the less.
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I know everyone on the internet says that the OUYA controller is the worst among the rest, but I just don't see it. I like it, it's sturdy enough. I never missed a button and the long handles make a better grip for me. A lot better than the old PS3, the new Amazon Fire TV, Moga pocket and MOga pro. Those are the ones i tried and I'm still happy with mine. May be I got a better one, or may be because I'm not a hardcore gamer and all I do is a couple of low quality games. My nephews also asked me what the crap I'm using, hahaha. But they have all kinds of gaming consoles.
Again, maybe it's just me because I actually don't own any of the other consoles and tried the controllers for a couple of times, 5-10 minutes each.
Still, the whole point is if you have that one lying around, it's better to put it to use instead of buying a new one.

tymex said:
Hey guys,
I thought I'd chime in on using the OUYA controller under Windows as I finally have it working 100%.
I recommend using vJoy in conjunction with Universal Joystick Remapper. vJoy installs a virtual controller driver whereas Universal Joystick Remapper lets you forward (and tweak) the input from the OUYA controller to the virtual one. By doing this, you can have a fully working D-pad, both thumb sticks working and you can get rid of the annoying z-axis value being created by the left trigger.
1. Download and install vJoy. As I'm a new user, I'm not allowed to post external links, so I'm afraid you'll have to use Google.
2. Open 'Configure vJoy' from the start menu and copy the settings found in the first picture attached to this post: 1.png.
3. Download and install Universal Joystick Remapper. Again, sorry but you'll have to use Google.
4. Download the attached zip file ujr.zip, which contains the configuration file (ini) for Universal Joystick Remapper and unzip it in the correct folder.
5. Open Universal Joystick Remapper and keep it running while playing your games.
At this point you're done! But in case you'd like to use your OUYA controller as a 360 controller, you can also run this configuration in conjunction with the Xbox 360 Controller Emulator x360ce.
1. Download and install as you would usually do. There's plenty of information out there if you're not familiar with it.
2. Open up x360ce.exe and configure it as in the 2nd picture I attached: 2.png.
3. Make sure to apply the settings from the picture to the vJoy device and not your actual OUYA controller. Also, as the OUYA controller shows up as controller 2 in x360ce, I loaded up the 'clear' preset for controller 2. This way we're only using the vJoy virtual controller in x360ce and not the actual OUYA one.
Hope this helps! This is my first guide, so forgive me if it's not completely clear and not according to the xda standards. :angel:
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Thanks, but I'd need some help I think.
I've made exactly everything you said but I can't get it working
Is it normal that when i launch ujr (with your ini file) it doesn't appear any window? It's icon sits on the appbar but it does nothing.
I also tried doing a configuration using x360ce but it does not seems to work.
Also, the D-pad does not work with x360ce...

Remotes question

Can't find anything, but does the nplayer have an IR reception? I want to be able to use my harmony remote.
Can you use 2 controllers and is there any 2 player games my kids can play together?

I doubt it has IR.
The controllers used have 4 LEDs on them, to identify the controller # _ _ _ _. So I'd assume you can have at least 4 paired.

Get a flirc and you should br able to use your harmony.
http://flirc.tv
Sent from my Nexus 5

sublimnl said:
Get a flirc and you should br able to use your harmony.
http://flirc.tv
Sent from my Nexus 5
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i have a flirc on my HTPC now
not sure if it will work on the nplayer though.

It works on firetv which is also android. I don't have a flirc but my understanding is that it emulates an HID input device and I believe those are natively supported in android.
Sent from my Nexus 5

It emulates keystrokes, but there are drivers and software goes along with it. I'll have to check out the flirc forums, haven't looked into flirc functions since I programmed mine 2 years ago.

Yes keystrokes from a keyboard which is an HID device. The software is used to program it on your PC. All that programming is written to the flirc and from that point on its completely standalone from the software and will use those ir to keystroke mappings on any device you plug it into.
" FLIRC is*fundamentally*different than other products on the market, as the mapping of IR input to keypresses is not static, but user*programmable. While it is possible to get this type of*functionality*with standard USB IR receivers, it requires intermediary software to be constantly running: adding another layer of complication and potential failure. By saving configuration on the FLIRC device itself, the user no longer has to constantly keep software running to interpret remote commands into their desired keypresses. What’s more, since FLIRC stores its configuration internally rather than on the computer, you can move FLIRC between computers and devices without having to reconfigure it.
The key is that FLIRC reports itself to the operating system as a standard USB Human Interface Device (HID), so any modern OS will be able to read it as if it was a keyboard. Even if the device or OS you want to use FLIRC on has no included support for remote controls, you can program FLIRC to “press” keys that the system will understand. For example, I was able to program FLIRC to interpret the directional pad on my remote to standard keyboard arrow keys; I then plugged FLIRC into my Android device and was able to navigate through the applications with my remote."
Source: http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/05/control-your-world-flirc-review/
Sent from my Nexus 5

Awesome, thanks

Nope. It's not in the specs sheet....

Here is some useful information about setting up Flirc to work with the Android TV interface on the ADT-1 and Nexus Player. Don't have my NP yet, but will be using the Flirc with it when it arrives.
http://forum.flirc.tv/index.php?/top...roid-tv-adt-1/
You'd want to add lots more mappings for XBMC if you run that as well, etc. The forum there has lots of good info.

I've also seen posts saying it works with HDMI-CEC, so if your TV or receiver supports that you could probably run commands that way.