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Thinking about purchasing the nexus one? Here is a breakdown for all T Mobile customers of what's required.
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If you have a family plan, shared plan, flexpay plan or corporate account you will need to change before going to purchase the nexus one from the link above. Once all the above items are removed/changed then you are good to go and can enjoy the upgraded discount.
Quote from Nexus site "You can choose to purchase the Nexus One from the Google Phone Webstore without service for $529 USD, or with a qualifying T-Mobile US service plan at a discounted price:
Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"
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I only paid 179.99 but that's because i opened a new line of service and got a new number. Be aware that if you open a new line of service to get the 179.99 price you CANNOT cancel your other line of service early or you will have to pay a 200.00 fee for early termination. The only option you have is to switch it to a home phone plan. If you decide to go that route as I did then it is 10.00 a month. It uses your sim card and a router that you get from T Mobile for 40.00. You must have a high speed connection to use this option.
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
Edit: Just saw your post in the other thread. I think what you're saying confirms what the T-mo rep told me earlier today. She said that if I switched from my old grandfathered plan to the Even More 500 plan, then I'd be eligible for the $179 price. Not that I'm going to do it... it's cheaper for me to stick to my current plan and buying the phone unlocked.
uansari1 said:
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
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Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
rantrav said:
Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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Sorry, people on here seem to like 'hard evidence' that is only text from another person. I am sure that this has been the plan since the beginning. Google, obviously having the upper hand and being in control, is calling the shots on how this works. T-Mobile, being an underdog, was probably given first dibs with this being part of the deal. But, I do agree with you. I bought it unlocked and would have rather saved the money and updated my phone with current plan. The guys post was something about he had a "grandfathered" in plan and was eligible through TMO for the update but with it being through Google he wasn't able to.... I guess all we can say is 'okay' and mush on.
I would have bought the unlocked version as well but I'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well I hope anyways lol.
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
For people interested in the tmo family plans, here is some math.
Getting 2 subsidized phones over a two-year period breaks down to an extra $15 a month ([$180 x2]/24). 2 unlocked phones is $44 a month ([$530 x2]/24).
Looking at text and web family plans with no annual contracts, its $109.99 for 750mins, $119.99 for 1500mins and $139.99 for unlimited. This gives you freedom of picking your plans or switching to another carrier that supports this phone.
Knowing that if you get the subsidized version, you will be paying $160 a month plus the breakdown of $15 a month (spreading out what you pay up front for the devices) it comes to $175 a month.
With the unlocked device price breakdown at $44 a month, you can see you will save money if you buy the unlocked phone and use either the 750min or 1500min family plans as they will cost you $154 and $164 respectively.
This is a two year savings of $504 and $264!
uansari1 said:
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I love the first post that clearly states "only new T-mobile customers are eligible to purchase Nexus One at the discounted price of $179." If thats true then why did I get one for 179.99, I've been with them for 7 years! lol
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I have a family plan with 4 lines so I had to break down and pay full price.... same when the G1 came out. Only reason is because i feel like this phone I will keep for some time. I hope. Google, I think, will be getting a lot of heat about this. I took a look at the link and there are A LOT of pissed off people on there. But GOOG does have the money to blow.
This is interesting guys
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=06a361e72a26b798&hl=en
ryanmo5 said:
i would have bought the unlocked version as well but i'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well i hope anyways lol.
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theyre all unlocked
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theyre all unlocked
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Oops lmao, I meant without service
I actually bought the unlocked phone for $530,-. I have another 6 months on my contract.
But this way, I'll be contract free, and am actually SAVING money now, because I had a G1 with Myfav600, which was $80,- a month.
And I never even come close to using my 600 minutes.
So the 500 plus plan is perfect for me. And I save $20,- a month.
And , when they get the Voip thing happening, I can use that as well, since I have a Google Voice number.
i'm a current T-mob customer with 9 mo left on my 2 yr contract i got with my G1, once i get some extra cash saved up i plan to pay the full price for the nexus one because for me at least i currently spend $53 a month on my service with t-mob and don't care or benefit to change it and if i could extend my contract and pay less for the phone by some amount it will still save me more in the long run by not having to pay for the dumb 80 dollar a month plan they force you to have by going that route
this is of course as long as they do not change their tune on how they are handling this before i'm ready to purchase the phone i.e. give me a discount of some amount to upgrade and keep my current plan or one very close to it
Im currently on the even more plus 500+unlimited text+Web
On flex pay. Iam so lucky i didnt sign a 2 year contract!
I just hope tmobile doesnt try to make me pay 80 if i buy the phone without a plan. Just going to pop in my sim from G1
I've posted this in a couple other threads but it should help here.
I'll tell everyone up front I worked for T-Mobile customer care for the last 4 years up until this past June and was a supervisor for the last year of my time there.
If you currently have a single line plan that is out of contract is qualifies through T-Mobile for the full discount but Google is giving you the price that is almost $400 here is what you can do it get around it. And change to the Even More plans prior WILL NOT fix this issue.
Alot of people are getting bad information from TMobile about what needs to be done because the reps were given almost no information about the ordering process. So most reps and just going with the flow to try and get people off the phone.
When you go to order the phone with Google select the option to add a new line to your account. It will give you the 179.99 price for adding the new line. Once the new phone comes in the mail call T-Mobile and cancel your old line and ask them to put a "request old number back" request to replace the new number with your old one. This takes about 24 hours to go through. During that 24 hours your old number will not work because you have to cancel it before you do this.
I know for a fact this will work but the rep you talk to may give you crap about doing this and not let you because they want to be a ****. If you're worried about that call and cancel you old line when you get the phone then call back and talk to another rep and tell them to put in the request for you.
Don't you have to pay the 200 dollar ETF if you cancel a line?
There's no ETF if the line has no contract. So if you add a new line to get the discount you can cancel the old one without a fee
Ah I missed that part. I am trying to get the 180 price and I only have a few months left on my contract and they won't upgrade it. They will let me add a new line of service though.
So what does everyone think is the best way to get the Tmo version on the value plan? I've been assuming ebay, but do the tmobile specials that pop up every now and then apply to the value plans too? Are there price reductions for them?
I just bit the bullet and bought from them. Stupidest part is how they extend you contract for 2 years WITHOUT EVEN SUBSIDIZING THE PHONE!
Best bet would be waiting for Amazon to sell the T-Mobile version outright. But I couldn't wait and spent the full $700
PePPaZ said:
I just bit the bullet and bought from them. Stupidest part is how they extend you contract for 2 years WITHOUT EVEN SUBSIDIZING THE PHONE!
Best bet would be waiting for Amazon to sell the T-Mobile version outright. But I couldn't wait and spent the full $700
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They aren't subsidizing the phone, but they are giving an interest free loan. IMHO, that's a pretty good deal. Especially when you consider that the value plan prices are probably the best deal in wireless (even against the pre-paid options). My wife and I can get all the minutes, text, and data we need for $75/month, and that's before my corporate discount.
When the prices are this good, I almost want to sign a contract. Contracts can work for the betterment of both parties. It's just that it has very rarely benefited the consumer in the wireless industry.
Any chance of calling them up for a discount on the phone even though you're on a Value Plan? I saw a lot of people getting $100-$200 credits on the official thread but they didn't say what plan they were on.
Given that I have a killer grandfathered plan on Rogers with 6 Gb data, and they will not, no way no how, let me keep it and do a HUP, I am seriously considering doing a full price purchase. Best I could do after spending a bunch of time with rententions is the offer to get a share everything plan discounted to $85. Over 2 years that is the same as buying the phone outright, and locks me back into a contract.
I am on Rogers in Canada, and want LTE so I would really like to get a Canadian variant SnapDragon Note 4. The best off contract price I have found is $799 (basically the same everywhere). Has anyone seen a better outright purchase price?
Maybe port your nunber to a different carrier? That way you'll be paying for the phone on contract.
I got my phone from Bell on 2-year contract for $175 and $10 increment of my monthly bill.
I just bought mine off kijiji for $800. It's the n910u. I have same Rogers plan and certainly ain't giving it up considering Rogers wants $130 a month for the same plan now.
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I just bought mine off kijiji for $800. It's the n910u. I have same Rogers plan and certainly ain't giving it up considering Rogers wants $130 a month for the same plan now.
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Looking into that. Managed to talk them down from $130 to $85 for a "share everything" (what a crock) plan that included my 6 Gb, but that is still the same as buying the phone over 2 years. If I am going to have the spend the money I might as well keep my grandfathered plan and the freedom of a carrier free, unlocked phone.
Yep I told them to shove it. And I told them I'll give someone else the $800-900 for the phone so they won't make any money off of that either
how did you guys pay so little? Did you buy it this last week? When i got it the day it came out it was $299 at Bell
equlizer said:
how did you guys pay so little? Did you buy it this last week? When i got it the day it came out it was $299 at Bell
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We are talking about monthly plan costs. We both have grandfathered Rogers plans that are a lot cheaper than current in market plans. Rogers recently has drawn a line in the sand and insists on people switching to a in market plan when doing a HUP (hardware upgrade). The current cost of the equivalent plan is around $150... I am paying $64.
Due to this I am looking at buying a Note 4 outright, to keep the plan, if I decide to stay with Rogers.
with the 910u you gonna get the lte...no problem there!!! it have all the band needed for the north America.....however you could get the Canadians variant 910W8 for the same price too.... your choice!!!!
I've heard that even though the Nexus 6 is compatible with Verizon CDMA, Verizon won't activate a phone that wasn't purchased through them AND even if you do manage to work around that (e.g. SIM swapping), they won't give you the $15/$25 line access discount for off-contract phones.
It's there any reason to believe the Moto X Pure will be treated differently by Verizon?
Currently, I'm on the the $60 Verizon loyalty plan, which doesn't have an off-contract discount, and I'm eligible for a subsidized upgrade n September. So I am leaving money on the table if I DON'T take advantage of a carrier-subsidized phone. However, I might be willing to give that up and pay full price for the Moto X Pure if it means I'll get an unlocked bootloader and software updates directly from Motorola without Verizon approval.
But the question remains: will Verizon cooperate, unlike with the unlocked Nexus 6?
FYI, I can't leave Verizon because it's the only carrier that gets service in my neighborhood.
All of these issues have been fixed since the Nexus 6 launch. I hope they carry forward the same solution with the 2015 X.
However even if you did have to sim swap to get the new phone on your line a quick phone call to verizon would get you your $25 discount.
They can be a **** and deny access to CDMA, but they can't lock you out of LTE. Personally, I've switched over to my Google voice number long ago, if Verizon decides to block the X Style, I'll just go data-only and abuse the **** out of my unlimited data plan.
Restola said:
All of these issues have been fixed since the Nexus 6 launch. I hope they carry forward the same solution with the 2015 X.
However even if you did have to sim swap to get the new phone on your line a quick phone call to verizon would get you your $25 discount.
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True but until the Nexus 6 IMEIs were whitelisted, you had to call every month b/c the discount went away the next month.
Verizon tried that at first and the fcc told them to put them all in. Since it violates the terms when they won the spectrum auction a while back.
It's just like when verizon was supposed to unlock the GSM side of the phones and they weren't. The fcc stepped in and told them to.
Verizon is Ike a little kid. Trying to get away with whatever they can. But once the fcc warns them they have to follow or they will get there spectrum revoked.
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Not sure why Verizon has this soup nazi stance since the total cost is better for them if someone uses their own device and still pays the fees for service. That means zero investment by Verizon, but their network is making the monthly revenue. The amount of money Verizon might generate with all of their bloat is a fraction of the subsidized cost they adsorb for new devices.
I have purchased devices outside of Verizon and have had no issues activating on the network. They were used Verizon devices though.
As a guy who will be coming off a 2-year unlimited data plan, I hope so! I'd like to continue with my UDP for as long as possible, and I'd really like to have this phone.
Assuming the Best Buy trick still works when/if a carrier version of this phone is released, I may have to wait for that.
Phone subsidies going away with Verizon
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As a guy who will be coming off a 2-year unlimited data plan, I hope so! I'd like to continue with my UDP for as long as possible, and I'd really like to have this phone.
Assuming the Best Buy trick still works when/if a carrier version of this phone is released, I may have to wait for that.
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Supposedly Verizon is getting rid of phone subsidies entirely so this may be your lat one. Motorola seems to have very good timing on this release as far as seeing the direction all carriers seem to be heading with phone subsidization.
I don't cruise the forums like I used to. I have a business plan through Verizon. I'll be coming off a LG G2 which was bought on contract if I move to the Moto X. If Verizon plays ball properly, does this mean I can ask for a lower monthly fee for my service?
subsidized phone plans are said to end starting Aug 13
It's not a big deal though. They are just going to operate on lease to own like T-Mobile does. With the subsidising, you still pay roughly $20 a month for your phone on contract. They are just adding visibility to that. So don't worry.
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
Kane5581 said:
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
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Verizon will let you make payments and keep your unlimited data if you didn't know. that's what I did this time around. if you have Verizon just go with the Verizon model and save yourself the trouble of converting it, unless you want a black 10 I guess. you can buy it (Verizon) directly from htc.com along with the unlocked if you don't want to do verizons payment plan/ full price.
you will have to mail it (Verizon model) to sunshine mail in unlock service to unlock the bootloader and s-off but that will only take a couple days. unlocked model you can do at home is the only benefit for going the unlocked conversion route
Kane5581 said:
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
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I wanted the grey one and since VZN only has silver, got the US unlocked version. Was happy to be able to unlock and SunShine S-0ff it at home. Easy peezy.
Used our dev's great guides here to convert it to a VZN phone. Then rooted and debloated it.
It is totally a joy to use. I have no overheating or any of the other issues some have mentioned.
Love this phone!!! Best HTC has made!
i got the unlocked one and when i was traveling in mexico, verizon was unable to activate an international plan. it was annoying for me but not a big deal, and i actually enjoyed my vacation more because of it. so itf that's important, know that verizon can't enable an international plan because it's registered as a non-vzw device.
Went to Verizon and they said they couldn't do the payments without changing my unlimited plan, even though I was told on the chat on Verizonwireless.com they could, I didn't want to argue with them so I just said "you don't know what you're talking about, I'll buy it from htc" and walked out. Bought the Verizon version from HTC.com and got free headphones. Thanks for the help guys.
Kane5581 said:
Went to Verizon and they said they couldn't do the payments without changing my unlimited plan, even though I was told on the chat on Verizonwireless.com they could, I didn't want to argue with them so I just said "you don't know what you're talking about, I'll buy it from htc" and walked out. Bought the Verizon version from HTC.com and got free headphones. Thanks for the help guys.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
I have unlimited data and originally ordered the Verizon phone from Verizon on the payment plan. Changed my mind after Dot and the devs found a way to completely convert the unlocked phone to Verizon version. Sent the Verizon phone back and ordered the unlocked version from HTC. Followed the conversion instructions and couldn't be happier. In addition to not having to send the phone off to get it rooted, I like having a year's worth of Uh-Oh protection from HTC. I can't think of any reason (other than maybe the international problem that was mentioned) for getting the Verizon version.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
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He was trying to get me on a 6gb plan, he said something about my unlimited being cheap. The minute they make me give up my udp or raise the price I'm out just on principle, the price should come down for the same service over time not go up.
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I have unlimited data and originally ordered the Verizon phone from Verizon on the payment plan. Changed my mind after Dot and the devs found a way to completely convert the unlocked phone to Verizon version. Sent the Verizon phone back and ordered the unlocked version from HTC. Followed the conversion instructions and couldn't be happier. In addition to not having to send the phone off to get it rooted, I like having a year's worth of Uh-Oh protection from HTC. I can't think of any reason (other than maybe the international problem that was mentioned) for getting the Verizon version.
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Uh Oh protection is covered for Verizon phones. An HTC rep said it was and Verizon confirmed it for me.
Kane5581 said:
He was trying to get me on a 6gb plan, he said something about my unlimited being cheap. The minute they make me give up my udp or raise the price I'm out just on principle, the price should come down for the same service over time not go up.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
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I'm still on the $30 unlimited plan and they let me do payment plan and keep plan the same.
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I'm still on the $30 unlimited plan and they let me do payment plan and keep plan the same.
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Guess you got lucky! Officially, Verizon said that only UDP lines post-increase get to do DPP:
Check the last paragraphs:
http://www.cnet.com/news/verizons-grandfathered-unlimited-data-users-face-20-price-hike/
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/08/verizon-to-increase-unlimited-data-pricing-by-20-in-november/