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Hi guys, first of all I just want to say that I just got back to android. I'm with apple in the past 2 years and just happy to be back here in XDA.
Whew, when I first browse the development section of S4, just wow. there are just so many things, many rom, just overwhelming. I already tried to flash rom back with my LG optimus black years ago, so I can say that I still have background with this stuff.
I'm just confused what forums to follow, as the title says whats the difference between the two? what should I follow?
If there's really anyone kind enough to spoon feed me I will really be grateful.
Anyway my unit is i19505, just updated it to 4.4.2 a while ago. where do I start? how can i root this?
here is how to root gt-i9505 4.4.2 : http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-latest-os-tutorial-1558910
notice that you will trip knox !
if you dont know what im talking about search the XDA
RubbaBand said:
here is how to root gt-i9505 4.4.2 : http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-latest-os-tutorial-1558910
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Thanks,what about the Difference between Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development and Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original?
the Original Development is Official releases or development of such original ROMs
and the Android Development is Your own or someone “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original source-built
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the Original Development is Official releases or development of such original ROMs
and the Android Development is Your own or someone “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original source-built
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okay okay thanks mate for the quick reply really appreciate it.
any time man we are here to help each other
so which rom do you think is a must try for a newbie like me?
Origanal development contains one own work like cyanogenmod roms , rooting , custom recoveries custom kernels these r completely a work of that developer
Android development contain modifications in stock rom released by samsung so I think these are safe for u as these are close to stock firmwares
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I will take CYANOGENMOD 11
So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
Here is a link for the Eclipse thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620723
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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That, you don't really have to worry about honestly. I never check, though it may be good practice to. Just follow along with the video in the thread and you will be good to go. Just remember that after you install 4.4.2, you cannot flash 4.3 based ROMs. Also, there is a bug in Safestrap right now that renders the ROM slots somewhat useless, though you can attempt to use them at your own risk. If you want to flash one of the 4.4.2 based ROMs afterwards, it is suggested to back up the stock ROM, and flash the custom ROM in the stock ROM slot. All I can say is, goodluck. Lol. It is a fun process, though somewhat difficult at times. If you have anymore questions after the fact, just reply here. I'll help out as much as I can. It always puts a smile on my face to help convert an Apple fanboy/girl over to Android.
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
search before posting
for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)
dogenut said:
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
dogenut said:
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.
Which Note 4 are you guys getting?
The Note 4 Developer Edition or the regular Note 4?
The Developer edition is the same as the regular with the exception of open boot loader allowing custom ROMs to be installed and extensive UI customization
Definitely getting the developer edition. Not concerned with custom kernels or roms, but having an unlocked bootloader is a much clearly path to root access. All I want to do, can be done with Xposed modules.
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Definitely getting the developer edition. Not concerned with custom kernels or roms, but having an unlocked bootloader is a much clearly path to root access. All I want to do, can be done with Xposed modules.
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Same, I'm really hoping that the Note 4 DevEd. will gain traction and popularity unlike the Note 3 DevEd.
I can't live without root and custom roms.
It's no longer on their site
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It's no longer on their site
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It's only temporary, don't worry it'll be back.
With Android L security, I would only consider a Dev N4 at this point. It is unlocked and will be easy to root. Flash TWRP recovery in Odin, boot into TWRP recovery from a powered off state, then flash Chainfires SuperSU.zip. From there it is game on...adaway, tibu, xposed modules, and I can pretty much create my own TW rom from that point.
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With Android L security, I would only consider a Dev N4 at this point. It is unlocked and will be easy to root. Flash TWRP recovery in Odin, boot into TWRP recovery from a powered off state, then flash Chainfires SuperSU.zip. From there it is game on...adaway, tibu, xposed modules, and I can pretty much create my own TW rom from that point.
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The big question is whether any devs will be able to make lollipop roms possible for the note 4 dev.
The apparent lack of Root possibility on the retail VZ Note 4 had me resigned to keeping my N3 (which isn't the worst thing). But IF we can actually buy the Dev Edition of the N4 anytime soon, and IF the Dev Edition is as easy to root as purported, then yes, I will buy the Dev Edition ASAP. I do want to see other peoples experiences with the Dev Edition before I throw down near $700 for it however. I am not overly excited for Lollipop, so a good, unlocked, rooted and user (myself) tweaked stock kitkat ROM will be just fine for me for quite some time. If Lollipop is available, rootable and worth the upgrade, then I will upgrade to it. I always disable/freeze the OTA apk on my phones so I can see what bugs/problems a new factory ROM presents before taking it. My N3 was on the original stock JB ROM until just recently when I upgraded to the latest kitkat, and I can honestly say I preferred the kitkat rom. No going back now though.
Long story short, the Dev edition will likely be my only N4 if I do get the N4.
I was going to get the dev version, but paid $60 total for the retail model verses over $600 more for the dev version.
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Definitely getting the developer edition. Not concerned with custom kernels or roms, but having an unlocked bootloader is a much clearly path to root access. All I want to do, can be done with Xposed modules.
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where is the option for both?
Agreed. All I want is root. A few os mods. Camera mods and build prop mods. Other than that I have no need to flash roms
All I need is free wifi tethering really and they say foxfi is working flawlessly on reg version bt I dnt kno if I wanna risk it lol...dev ed for me too
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Noob question... Dev models are only sold outside of carriers, right? So I can't upgrade to that? And how much is it? I'm assuming the full retail price.
bought regular here.. don't feel like returning it. I have faith we'll get root.
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Noob question... Dev models are only sold outside of carriers, right? So I can't upgrade to that? And how much is it? I'm assuming the full retail price.
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No, you can't upgrade to the Developer Edition. The price is $662.53 plus tax and shipping if you want other than their 4-5 day shipping/delivery. You have to order through the Samsung web site.
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bought regular here.. don't feel like returning it. I have faith we'll get root.
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Hello everyone, I tried searching the forum for a solution but have not found any. I'm in a little predicament and I need some help!
Summary: I recently rooted my Verizon S5 using Towelroot and have safestrap installed. I am trying to install CM11 Rom and so far it hasn't been working for me. Everyone I boot up the rom for the first time I get the Samsung S5 boot screen and it is just black. Vibrates twice, and then loops back to the samsung boot screen.
Phone: Verizon Samsung S5 (G900V)
Android Version: 4.4.4
Baseband: ANI2, Kernel 3.4.0
Rooted with Towelroot, with safestrap 3.75 installed for verizon.
So far this is the procedure I have tried to install CM11:
1. Boot into recovery via safestrap.
2. Activate my ROM SLOT that I have created for custom ROM's.
3. Do a wipe (Cache, Data, Dalvik) and I have also tried wiping System also prior to installing CM11.
4. Flashing CM11 (downloaded from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/rom-cyanogenmod-11-0-android-4-4-4-t2864288) via buildbot mirror. I downloaded the latest release named: cm-11-20141104-UNOFFICIAL-kltevzw
5. After, flashing GAPPS also downloaded from the thread above for CM11.
6. They both successfully flash and I reboot the phone. (And yes I have tried wiping after flashing these two and rebooting but it still doesn't work)
7. The phone reboots, I see the Samsung S5 boot screen, then the splash screen for Safestrap, and then the screen goes black. The phone vibrates twice and then loops back to the Samsung S5 boot screen.
Does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you so much!
If your phone isn't a Dev Edition it will not work. CM Roms use AOSP and you can't run those or custom kernels on a retail edition phone.
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Xaede said:
Hello everyone, I tried searching the forum for a solution but have not found any. I'm in a little predicament and I need some help!
Summary: I recently rooted my Verizon S5 using Towelroot and have safestrap installed. I am trying to install CM11 Rom and so far it hasn't been working for me. Everyone I boot up the rom for the first time I get the Samsung S5 boot screen and it is just black. Vibrates twice, and then loops back to the samsung boot screen.
Phone: Verizon Samsung S5 (G900V)
Android Version: 4.4.4
Baseband: ANI2, Kernel 3.4.0
Rooted with Towelroot, with safestrap 3.75 installed for verizon.
So far this is the procedure I have tried to install CM11:
1. Boot into recovery via safestrap.
2. Activate my ROM SLOT that I have created for custom ROM's.
3. Do a wipe (Cache, Data, Dalvik) and I have also tried wiping System also prior to installing CM11.
4. Flashing CM11 (downloaded from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/rom-cyanogenmod-11-0-android-4-4-4-t2864288) via buildbot mirror. I downloaded the latest release named: cm-11-20141104-UNOFFICIAL-kltevzw
5. After, flashing GAPPS also downloaded from the thread above for CM11.
6. They both successfully flash and I reboot the phone. (And yes I have tried wiping after flashing these two and rebooting but it still doesn't work)
7. The phone reboots, I see the Samsung S5 boot screen, then the splash screen for Safestrap, and then the screen goes black. The phone vibrates twice and then loops back to the Samsung S5 boot screen.
Does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you so much!
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Since you're using SafeStrap, I'm assuming you have a retail edition Verizon S5 (non-developer edition).
1. Retail cannot use CM ROMs. Ever.
2. Safestrap does not flash any partitions other than cache, data, and system. Meaning even if you had a DevEd with safestrap, it would never flash a kernel.
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Since you're using SafeStrap, I'm assuming you have a retail edition Verizon S5 (non-developer edition).
1. Retail cannot use CM ROMs. Ever.
2. Safestrap does not flash any partitions other than cache, data, and system. Meaning even if you had a DevEd with safestrap, it would never flash a kernel.
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Thank you for the quick replies, and also for clarifying. So would it be possible to run a custom ROM on a retail edition phone? What possibilities are possible (in terms of customization, root options, etc) for a retail edition phone?
Do XPOSED Framework Modules on retail verizon versions?
Xaede said:
Thank you for the quick replies, and also for clarifying. So would it be possible to run a custom ROM on a retail edition phone? What possibilities are possible (in terms of customization, root options, etc) for a retail edition phone?
Do XPOSED Framework Modules on retail verizon versions?
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Any of the ROMs located in the Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development subforum as long as it states compatible with retail edition.
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Any of the ROMs located in the Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development subforum as long as it states compatible with retail edition.
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And in terms of customization?
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And in terms of customization?
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That's up to you depending on what you're looking for. The most customizable, tough, is Alliance. Each ROM offers the devs own take on "custom rom". Just gotta find one you want to use.
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That's up to you depending on what you're looking for. The most customizable, tough, is Alliance. Each ROM offers the devs own take on "custom rom". Just gotta find one you want to use.
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Thank you alot BigBot!
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Thank you alot BigBot!
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Yo, only problem is that they just dropped support for the S5 in favor of the N6 I really thought there was hope for the work on the bootloader or even the N12 build update Really gonna miss that Rom
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Yo, only problem is that they just dropped support for the S5 in favor of the N6 I really thought there was hope for the work on the bootloader or even the N12 build update Really gonna miss that Rom
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you can thank vzw/samsung for locking the BL down so good for that lol
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you can thank vzw/samsung for locking the BL down so good for that lol
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Yep, locked bootloaders SUCK!!! Samsung and Big Red can lick my...
Ummm... Popsicle! Almost forgot this is a family friendly environment.
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you can thank vzw/samsung for locking the BL down so good for that lol
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Good News though! Beans may pass permission down to Goldie and others so that progress can continue! Im all in for that, and my friend and I have been "experimenting" with a couple theories that may help future phones, boot loaders and other stuff.. So yeah, happy Modding!
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Yep, locked bootloaders SUCK!!! Samsung and Big Red can lick my...
Ummm... Popsicle! Almost forgot this is a family friendly environment.
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Hey, I blame Samsung for Knox amd other bloat/crap, but in honesty they are a company that makes these phones for crowds that buy them for the crap they put on them. BIG RED the world fattest *****iest carrier (excuse the language) makes me extremely... Angry... For lack of other words... They are CDMA, bootlock their phones, slow updates down, and charge a ****ton for it! They are bad. Just bad. Fix that crap Verizon, just fix it. No more begging for you to stop torturing me, I swear another slip up and I quit! TMobile here I come, also Ludeawaking, I hope you get the rights from beans and good luck, and Elliwigily (sorry i forgot how to spell you name :| ) great debloat, still is a great daily driver! Happy Modding!