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Okay so I just have a few questions about rooting my phone before I do it, since I saw the root here that works for the most recent OTA update.
1) If someone happens with my phone (either bricking it from rooting or something inconsequential) will they not replace my phone due to it being rooted?
2) If they won't replace it due to being rooted (if it wasn't bricking), is there an easy way to unroot the phone?
3) I can't tell from the instructions, but I'm pretty sure some others have said that it might require you to restore factory settings, does this one require that?
4) The thread says that it is now impossible to unlock the bootloader, does this also mean that you can't use a custom ROM? How exactly do you add a ROM?
Sorry for all the questions, I've never rooted an android device before, and I don't have the time or energy to go running around Google/forums trying to find these answers.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: yes I know i've already asked 2 of these questions, but I'm a stupid poop who needs validation.
wholocked10 said:
Okay so I just have a few questions about rooting my phone before I do it, since I saw the root here that works for the most recent OTA update.
1) If someone happens with my phone (either bricking it from rooting or something inconsequential) will they not replace my phone due to it being rooted?
2) If they won't replace it due to being rooted (if it wasn't bricking), is there an easy way to unroot the phone?
3) I can't tell from the instructions, but I'm pretty sure some others have said that it might require you to restore factory settings, does this one require that?
4) The thread says that it is now impossible to unlock the bootloader, does this also mean that you can't use a custom ROM? How exactly do you add a ROM?
Sorry for all the questions, I've never rooted an android device before, and I don't have the time or energy to go running around Google/forums trying to find these answers.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: yes I know i've already asked 2 of these questions, but I'm a stupid poop who needs validation.
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first, rooting your voids the warranty, so technically, they (either VZW or Motorola) are not obligated to replace it. that being said, you can always play dumb and say that you accepted some OTA install, and now the phone won't boot up. usually, VZW will try to restore the phone, and if not, they'll replace it - no worries.
2.) I believe there is an unroot method, but I have not explored this. try doing a search on this forum for "unroot razr m"
3.) restore factory settings could unroot - check the threads
4.) you can still install a custom ROM, but you'll need to install Safestrap first. however, the custom ROMs available for SS are out-dated, and I don't think that any devs will be providing any going forward. however, I would not be too discouraged by this, as the phone is very solid stock. so rooting is the key to remove the bloatware to help increase battery life, increase performance, and reduce excess data usage.
hope this helps.
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
EmilEmil.st said:
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
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If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
Thanks for the quick reply!
//Emil
prowsterz said:
If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
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Ok. So I've tried to ask this question before, and every time I get people telling me to do things I just don't understand. Sorry. Not trying to spam. If this question goes unanswered I will not post another and I apologize if this is too stupid. Just a noob trying to get help.
All I want is to update my phone (SM-G900F) to the most recent Android version. Like 3 weeks ago I got the prompt to update OTA because a new update was available. I've haven't modified my phone other than Towelrooting in July and having SuperSU and Titanium. Had planned to get way more root stuff but so far I haven't had the time.
OTA Update failed, told me my phone was modified in an unauthorized way and suggested to update through Kies.
Here's my question: What's the simplest, easiest way to update correctly? I'd rather do it one way or the other: Either, I unroot with SuperSU and remove Titanium, then download Kies and try to update, if successful I reroot with Towelroot OR: I can manage to update WITH Towelroot and SuperSU still there, if so, how?
That's all I'm asking. Would the first option work best? Is there a better way? I don't want to use Odin or anything like that, I don't want to use custom roms or anything, I'd just like to have the most recent update and root, that's it. Please put me out of my misery.
tempest22 said:
What's the simplest, easiest way to update correctly?
I don't want to use Odin or anything like that
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You can't have it both ways. Odin is the easiest, otherwise try Kies.
Download NeatRom and you will get the latest Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2828562
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
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You can't have it both ways. Odin is the easiest, otherwise try Kies.
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So would it work if I unroot with SuperSU, then install Kies on my pc and update to most recent Anroid version?
Or, if I'm already going to unroot first with SuperSU, can I then just try the OTA update and if successful, can I reroot with Towelroot or will that be outdated with the most recent Android version?
Download odin 3.09. Download the latest official firmware for your device, search the forums to find the latest one. Extract the .tar file inside the firmware zip u downloaded. Make sure you have the drivers installed for your phone on your computer. Extract Odin and run the .exe to open the Odin program. Put your phone into download mode> While Powered off hold volume down.. Home.. And power button. Press continue when given the warning plug in your phone to the PC.. Within Odin click the ap slot. Load the .Tar file which is your firmware. Make sure Odin recognizes your phone is plugged. Hit start. Sit back and watch it flash.
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Ok. I hope this does not sound arrogant. But I honestly can't believe why anyone on this forum can't directly answer my question instead of giving me other suggestions. I don't want to use Odin, it's too complex for me and I don't want to mod my phone to hell and back. I just want to get the most recent update released 2 or so weeks ago.
Nobody has said whether the Kies method works (letting Towelroot remain on my phone and trying to download most recent Android version with Kies on my pc), or whether I unroot with SuperSU, remove all root apps (I only have 3), then try the OTA update just with my phone and see if that works. Can somebody please just answer that? PLEASE
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I think I'm correct in saying the most recent ota comprised on little more than minor tweaks and security updates.
The world's not going to come to an end if you don't have the very latest update.
Perhaps more research BEFORE choosing the root route would have been wise, at least then you would be more informed as to the outcome of your chosen option.
Having read the last few posts it's clear to me, even as a relative S5 noob that your questions been answered quite comprehensively. Just not the install an app and reboot option you were hoping for.
sent from SGS5 running NeatRom 0X1
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Just before I get stuck into my pizza. .....
.......did you by any chance select ART rather than running a DALVIK system?
I did that before rooting and I got the same can't install ota due to modified yada yada.....
I reverted back to Dalvik and the ota installed no problem. As I said.... This was pre rooting so might not be relevant.
sent from SGS5 running NeatRom 0X1
does.the kies method i asked about.work.
tempest22 said:
does.the kies method i asked about.work.
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from reading the replies above i think the answer is no it wont but why not just give it a try, if its not going to work it will just tell you so (like the ota update did)
your options as stated above are to either use odin and install the latest update or take it to a shop or find someone who is close to you who knows how to use odin and ask them if they wouldnt mind doing it for you and buy them a beer as a thankyou,
odin isnt hard to use in fact it couldnt be any easier to use for a noob just follow a couple of simple steps and your done
i hope you get this sorted
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does.the kies method i asked about.work.
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It should work as I have done that on my old device before but you have to re-root your s5 again after the update.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Towelroot after latest OTA-Update doesn't work!
I don't know if the idea of an update is so good.
My SM-900F was Towelrooted to run Titanium, too.
My setup was "OTA when in a WIFI network" and clicked "update yes" - I was typing some notes very late,
the message box popped up and --- swoosh --- the Update was running. No need to say my notes weren't saved?
I don't even know what that update contained and what it was good for.
Now I run 4.4.2 ,
Baseband G900FXXU1ANG2
Kernel 3.4.0-2089850 [email protected] #1 July 3rd 2014
Build KOT49H.G900FFXXU1ANG2.
Root access has gone, Towelroot says "device not supported", Titanium doesn't work anymore.
No I have to start Windows only to run KIES - waf.
So be careful.
Dirk
Ok, so I have unrooted with supersu and removed Titanium. Supersu is still there. I've tried to do an OTA update, and surprisingly this time it actually went so far as to actually download the updates. Then after I press install, it goes into boot mode and says like 20% or more installed, then it goes black and reboots, everything is normal but the update failed.
What. Now.
They should really start telling people that rooting will cause updates to become a nightmare. Please help me, this is ridiculous.
tempest22 said:
They should really start telling people that rooting will cause updates to become a nightmare. Please help me, this is ridiculous.
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Lack of common sense is my diagnosis.
Of course it's not always going to be plain sailing. And early days with any new handset means there are answers we just don't know yet.
That's why pretty much every thread has a precursor from the Dev that says "use at your own risk","read instructions fully before flashing" or " it's not my fault if your dog gets fleas or your nan pegs it" etc etc etc. If you have any doubts rooting your phone wasnt for you..... you shouldn't have rooted.
sent from SGS5 running NeatRom 0X1
tempest22 said:
They should really start telling people that rooting will cause updates to become a nightmare. Please help me, this is ridiculous.
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Lack of common sense is my diagnosis.
Of course it's not always going to be plain sailing. And early days with any new handset means there are answers we just don't know yet.
That's why pretty much every thread has a precursor from the Dev that says "use at your own risk","read instructions fully before flashing" or " it's not my fault if your dog gets fleas or your nan pegs it" etc etc etc. If you have any doubts rooting your phone wasnt for you..... you shouldn't have rooted.
sent from SGS5 running NeatRom
bump, can somebody tell me conclusively for once and for all if the following will work: I have unrooted with supersu (originally rooted with Towelroot in July) supersu and titanium are removed, OTA update still doesn't work. if i install Kies on my pc, will an update work, AND will I be able to use towelroot again to reroot.
thank you.
please?
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bump, can somebody tell me conclusively for once and for all if the following will work: I have unrooted with supersu (originally rooted with Towelroot in July) supersu and titanium are removed, OTA update still doesn't work. if i install Kies on my pc, will an update work, AND will I be able to use towelroot again to reroot.
thank you.
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Did you use Triangle Away to reset the system status and binaries to official? If not reroot with Towelroot again, use Triangle Away to reset the counters (besides the KNOX flag), unroot with the superSU app, then flash a stock rom with Odin and after that factory reset. Your device is official now.
gee2012 said:
Did you use Triangle Away to reset the system status and binaries to official? If not reroot with Towelroot again, use Triangle Away to reset the counters (besides the KNOX flag), unroot with the superSU app, then flash a stock rom with Odin and after that factory reset. Your device is official now.
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jesus ****ing christ. i'm not that kind of a phone pro guy. I just want to know if updating with Kies with allow me to reroot afterwards again (whether or not with Towelroot or ****ing Odin isn't important anyway). I rooted with towelroot in july, know isn't tripped or whatever. I have unrooted with supersu. Now I just want to know whether or not updating with Kies on my pc will be successful, and if it will allow me to reroot again, like with Towelroot...
PLEASE
tempest22 said:
jesus ****ing christ. i'm not that kind of a phone pro guy. I just want to know if updating with Kies with allow me to reroot afterwards again (whether or not with Towelroot or ****ing Odin isn't important anyway). I rooted with towelroot in july, know isn't tripped or whatever. I have unrooted with supersu. Now I just want to know whether or not updating with Kies on my pc will be successful, and if it will allow me to reroot again, like with Towelroot...
PLEASE
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Well I know why no one can answer that simple question. Because no one has done it that way. That is why you can't get the answer you seek. So you have a choice, give up and stop asking, or be the first to try it. Then post here if it works or not.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
I'm looking to root my s4, I just upgraded to lollipop and love it but there are some things I would like to do that require root. Hoping that someone can walk me through the process. Thanks in advance
Interested in this as well. Just need a point in the right direction. Thanks
I may be incorrect, but at the moment root for I337UCUGOC3 is only available via Flashfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
motobiz said:
I may be incorrect, but at the moment root for I337UCUGOC3 is only available via Flashfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
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So there is no straight root from 5.0.1 at the moment?
Aranace said:
So there is no straight root from 5.0.1 at the moment?
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No. You have to downgrade to 4.4.2 first, root, then flash up to 5.0
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Bumping an older thread.
I've been searching around the forums for a guide to downgrade and a link to the Stock 4.4.2 ROM. AT&T Upgrade happened inadvertently. I either wasn't paying attention or it happened automatically.
Found plenty of post saying the same thing but no trustworthy guide on how to downgrade effectively from 5.0.1 on the i337 to 4.4.2. Normally I'd be up for experimenting but a newborn has me a little sleep deprived and looking for an idiot guide.
TIA
smtelegadis said:
Bumping an older thread.
I've been searching around the forums for a guide to downgrade and a link to the Stock 4.4.2 ROM. AT&T Upgrade happened inadvertently. I either wasn't paying attention or it happened automatically.
Found plenty of post saying the same thing but no trustworthy guide on how to downgrade effectively from 5.0.1 on the i337 to 4.4.2. Normally I'd be up for experimenting but a newborn has me a little sleep deprived and looking for an idiot guide.
TIA
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Are you trying to get back to 4.4.2 then attempt to upgrade too 5.0.1 root?
Yes, but it sounds like from the tone of that question that I might be screwed.
You can flash back to nb1, root with towelroot, and go to lollipop with the keeproot method. Look in the general forum for [GUIDE]Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Installing Safestrap by guut13 and [How-To] Update to I337_OC3 - 5.0.1 and KeepRoot (4/7/2015) by muniz_ri.
schhy said:
No. You have to downgrade to 4.4.2 first, root, then flash up to 5.0
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I also have a I337UCUGOC3 running 5.0.1.
Unfortunately yesterday my phone got messed up (I'll spare you all the details) and I had to do a factory reset. I am really unhappy about this because I wasn't able to backup properly with Titanium Backup since I'm not rooted. As a result, I now need to spend a bunch of hours getting my phone back to the way I like it. I am honestly not interested in flashing custom ROMs. I simply want to root so I can run Titanium Backup.
Based on your experience, how long might it typically take for a root guide to come out for this model? I'm trying to decide whether I should try to wait it out with my phone feeling "unfamiliar" to me - or if I should just go ahead and give up the idea of rooting / backing up.
Also, is there one site or forum (this thread???) where I would be able to find out how to root this model when it comes out? If so, where?
I would very much appreciate your advice!
Eliezer
EliezerB said:
I also have a I337UCUGOC3 running 5.0.1.
Unfortunately yesterday my phone got messed up (I'll spare you all the details) and I had to do a factory reset. I am really unhappy about this because I wasn't able to backup properly with Titanium Backup since I'm not rooted. As a result, I now need to spend a bunch of hours getting my phone back to the way I like it. I am honestly not interested in flashing custom ROMs. I simply want to root so I can run Titanium Backup.
Based on your experience, how long might it typically take for a root guide to come out for this model? I'm trying to decide whether I should try to wait it out with my phone feeling "unfamiliar" to me - or if I should just go ahead and give up the idea of rooting / backing up.
Also, is there one site or forum (this thread???) where I would be able to find out how to root this model when it comes out? If so, where?
I would very much appreciate your advice!
Eliezer
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There is no way to root on OC3 at the moment. No clue on how long it'll take if a method even gets found. I recommend downgrading to NB1 using Odin then following the steps on herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3075814
. All downgrade file are on there too. Read through all steps and warning to prevent any problems
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
smtelegadis said:
Bumping an older thread.
I've been searching around the forums for a guide to downgrade and a link to the Stock 4.4.2 ROM. AT&T Upgrade happened inadvertently. I either wasn't paying attention or it happened automatically.
Found plenty of post saying the same thing but no trustworthy guide on how to downgrade effectively from 5.0.1 on the i337 to 4.4.2. Normally I'd be up for experimenting but a newborn has me a little sleep deprived and looking for an idiot guide.
TIA
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FWIW my wife noted the user interface on her S4 suddenly completely changed. Looking at it when I got a chance I saw it was 5.0.1 (OC3). I actually don't know what it was previously. So AT&T is definitely pushing out the update.
Already on 5.0.1
I bought this ATT phone used, unlocked, and already on 5.0.1. We use it on the GoSmart Mobile network (owned/operated by T-Mobile). Today (a few weeks after the purchase), I get this message saying that there's an ATT software update available. How can ATT push an update to a phone not on their network? Will this update screw anything up? Will it re-network-lock it? I don't want to update this phone and, since it's my wife's phone, I don't want to risk a brick (I am in a similar situation with a baby and am quite sleep deprived). Previously, she had an HTC First (ATT phone use on GoSmart) and it notified us of an available update, but would not actually update (thank goodness). Do I actually have anything to worry about with this ATT update? Or is the notification just an annoyance? Thanks in advance.
>Joe
joeskippyxda said:
I bought this ATT phone used, unlocked, and already on 5.0.1. We use it on the GoSmart Mobile network (owned/operated by T-Mobile). Today (a few weeks after the purchase), I get this message saying that there's an ATT software update available. How can ATT push an update to a phone not on their network? Will this update screw anything up? Will it re-network-lock it? I don't want to update this phone and, since it's my wife's phone, I don't want to risk a brick (I am in a similar situation with a baby and am quite sleep deprived). Previously, she had an HTC First (ATT phone use on GoSmart) and it notified us of an available update, but would not actually update (thank goodness). Do I actually have anything to worry about with this ATT update? Or is the notification just an annoyance? Thanks in advance.
>Joe
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The latest update, from 5.0.1, OC3 to 5.0.1 OC4 is a security update which is believed to be a response to the stagefreight bug. The update is relatively small, and should not "screw anything up." It will not affect network unlock.
As to why you're getting it on a non AT&T network, I'd guess that the update server determines the phone is an SGH-I337 and pushes the correct update for the phone.
How to root
Okay, so I have 5.0.1 with i337ucugoc3 and finally rooted it quite easily (after many failures).
I used WonderShare's MobileGo.
The process was actually very simple, but it was very confusing as to what the software actually wanted from me.
To make it easy, here's all you need:
1. Go to Settings->more->About Device
2. Tap on "Build number" seven (or more) times quicly
-- this will unlock the developer tools
3. Tap the back arrow
4. Tap "Developer options"
5. Tap on "USB debugging" to enable
6. Go to wondershare.com, download MobileGo, install
7. Run MobileGo
8. Connect your phone to your computer with a USB cable.
9. In MobileGo, click on the "One-Clock Root" button
You should be rooted quickly.
Not only that, it only installs SuperSU, and no malware.
10. Uninstall MobileGo if you don't want to keep it.
LoonCraz, thank you for your post. I have two questions about what you wrote:
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Okay, so I have 5.0.1 with i337ucugoc3 and finally rooted it quite easily (after many failures).
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Would this work also for i337ucugoc4?
When you say "after many failures" - were there ever any negative consequences (something broken or bricking, etc.) from one of those failures - or just not getting root?
Thanks,
Eliezer
EliezerB said:
LoonCraz, thank you for your post. I have two questions about what you wrote:
Would this work also for i337ucugoc4?
When you say "after many failures" - were there ever any negative consequences (something broken or bricking, etc.) from one of those failures - or just not getting root?
Thanks,
Eliezer
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I don't know, but supposedly it works very well with most versions.
None of my failed attempts left any bad effects, this program worked first shot :good:
Does the phone get wiped in the process - or does everything stay intact / in place?
The Wondershare MobileGo One-Click Root process successfully rooted my unlocked GS4 i337 (OC4) today, and confirmed by Root Checker. So easy!
looncraz said:
Okay, so I have 5.0.1 with i337ucugoc3 and finally rooted it quite easily (after many failures).
I used WonderShare's MobileGo.
The process was actually very simple, but it was very confusing as to what the software actually wanted from me.
To make it easy, here's all you need:
1. Go to Settings->more->About Device
2. Tap on "Build number" seven (or more) times quicly
-- this will unlock the developer tools
3. Tap the back arrow
4. Tap "Developer options"
5. Tap on "USB debugging" to enable
6. Go to wondershare.com, download MobileGo, install
7. Run MobileGo
8. Connect your phone to your computer with a USB cable.
9. In MobileGo, click on the "One-Clock Root" button
You should be rooted quickly.
Not only that, it only installs SuperSU, and no malware.
10. Uninstall MobileGo if you don't want to keep it.
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this worked just fine....
I did it in my S4 i377 with 5.0.1 OC3
just download the trial and root it...
thanks!!!
Hi, first, I am pretty new to rooting, yet I have done similar things on other devices. Second, here is the info on my android phone:
Samsung galaxy S5 model SM-G900V
Android Version 6.0.1
EMMC: 11xx...
it is a verizon phone so I'm pretty sure the bootloader is locked, and the latest towelroot throws the "this phone isn't currently supported" error on any of the modstrings I use, as well.
I am looking for some more direction on how to root this phone, and would like some help.
TimX24968B said:
Hi, first, I am pretty new to rooting, yet I have done similar things on other devices. Second, here is the info on my android phone:
Samsung galaxy S5 model SM-G900V
Android Version 6.0.1
EMMC: 11xx...
it is a verizon phone so I'm pretty sure the bootloader is locked, and the latest towelroot throws the "this phone isn't currently supported" error on any of the modstrings I use, as well.
I am looking for some more direction on how to root this phone, and would like some help.
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You can't. Root is not available for 6.0.1. At this late in the game, it's unlikely to ever be rootable.
painiac said:
You can't. Root is not available for 6.0.1. At this late in the game, it's unlikely to ever be rootable.
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hmm, wondering if any other new verizon android phones will be rootable since I am available for an upgrade
painiac said:
You can't. Root is not available for 6.0.1. At this late in the game, it's unlikely to ever be rootable.
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I got mine into a 4.4.2 rom and it was successfully rooted w busybox, but I can't install the SU binary or activate safestrap since it seems like I need one to get the other. is there a way around that?
painiac said:
You can't. Root is not available for 6.0.1. At this late in the game, it's unlikely to ever be rootable.
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Also, I have seen sites claim things like you can root it, such as the one below:
androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900v-verizon.html
(had to edit out the www. part of the link)
however, they all require doing stuff with odin, and I am still concerned about files being lost.
Trying to get more info on this, I would appreciate any and all help.
TimX24968B said:
Also, I have seen sites claim things like you can root it, such as the one below:
androidinfotech.com/2016/07/root-samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900v-verizon.html
(had to edit out the www. part of the link)
however, they all require doing stuff with odin, and I am still concerned about files being lost.
Trying to get more info on this, I would appreciate any and all help.
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I find it highly suspicious that this method hasn't been trumpeted here on xda. The broken english doesn't ease my suspicion, either. Personally, I would want to have a disposable phone on hand to try it out, since it hasn't been vetted here first.
Before you do anything, read through the guide linked in my sig to get yourself familiar with the process. If you decide to tackle it, let us know how it turns out.
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I find it highly suspicious that this method hasn't been trumpeted here on xda. The broken english doesn't ease my suspicion, either. Personally, I would want to have a disposable phone on hand to try it out, since it hasn't been vetted here first.
Before you do anything, read through the guide linked in my sig to get yourself familiar with the process. If you decide to tackle it, let us know how it turns out.
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yea I know it seemed suspicious, so I didn't want to try it. However, would you happen to know of any newer androids that can be rooted, particularly verizon ones? I saw the guide but I don't think I can downgrade since I'm on verizon and 6.0.1, and I'm still afraid of losing my data if I do. Thanks for the help.
You can root that phone, there is a guide in the general section: [GUIDE] Root, Bootloader Unlocks, and More!
Look at the cid 11 section. It will erase all of your data though and downgrade you to lolipop. I used that guide on a marshmellow cid 11 Verizon S5 recently and it worked just fine.
Sadly, the bootloader of cid 11 Verizon S5s are still locked. I dont think there is a way yet to root Verizon S5s with cid 11 without losing your data.
Thanks for letting me know! How would I go about backing up my data for this kind of task, in that case? I am pretty sure I do not use verizons cloud services, but i do use their app for messaging.
As long as I can get root access so i can free up some space on my phone and possibly do other stuff in the future as well, it would be great if theres a way to back everything up aside from just copying the whole sd card, particularly things like contacts and text messages in that verizon app. Im fine being on lolipop, and if i can back up my data, i do have my escape method of just ditching this phone and using my upgrade.
Second question: what would be a newer verizon phone that would be rootable on the latest android?
I didn't need the data when I rooted the S5 I had, so I didnt back anything up.
There should be various apps on google play you can use to backup your text messages and contacts. You can manually backup any pictures and other media to a pc or something. I dont think there is much you can do to save your app data without root already. You can probably look up the save loactions of some of your apps and manually backup those.
I dont keep up with phone releases, so I cant reccomend anything.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Ammalin said:
You can root that phone, there is a guide in the general section: [GUIDE] Root, Bootloader Unlocks, and More!
Look at the cid 11 section. It will erase all of your data though and downgrade you to lolipop. I used that guide on a marshmellow cid 11 Verizon S5 recently and it worked just fine.
Sadly, the bootloader of cid 11 Verizon S5s are still locked. I dont think there is a way yet to root Verizon S5s with cid 11 without losing your data.
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The problem here is the understanding of the word ROOT, those instructions allow you to do stuff to you cid11 s5's yes, however, if you install the LL stuff then yes you can achive root, or even flash an LL rom that already has root, if you install the MM stuff YOU CANNOT and WILL NOT achieve ROOT. There is NO root exploit or method for 6.0.1 What you will be able to do after puting the MM stuff in there is be able to flash a small file and access safestrap to flash whatever zips or things (within context) that you might need, but this will be needed everytime you want to access safestrap. You will also need to flash another file once in safestrap to correctly exit. It Will NOT EVER give you root in MM. But with this you can flash a debloat script and even an add block to make your phone more usable to you. (All of which is explained in detail in the MM section of that thread).
tong6998 said:
The problem here is the understanding of the word ROOT, those instructions allow you to do stuff to you cid11 s5's yes, however, if you install the LL stuff then yes you can achive root, or even flash an LL rom that already has root, if you install the MM stuff YOU CANNOT and WILL NOT achieve ROOT. There is NO root exploit or method for 6.0.1 What you will be able to do after puting the MM stuff in there is be able to flash a small file and access safestrap to flash whatever zips or things (within context) that you might need, but this will be needed everytime you want to access safestrap. You will also need to flash another file once in safestrap to correctly exit. It Will NOT EVER give you root in MM. But with this you can flash a debloat script and even an add block to make your phone more usable to you. (All of which is explained in detail in the MM section of that thread).
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I never said he could have root on marshmellow. Sorry if that was confusing as I never said it exactly. The linked guide says no root on marshmellow in bold near the top. Just wanted to let the OP know he could get root on the phone in some way at least.
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I'm perfectly fine with downgrading. It was just the issue with backing up data which was holding me back there. However, I am still looking into doing this and appreciate the help. I think all I would need now is to know if anyone knows if there is any relatively new verizon phone that could be rooted out of box. Thanks.
If you know little about rooting, I will advice you to read more information about sm-g900v marshmallow root, like rooting with one click rooting software, just try their free trail and see if you can accept. Android Root from RenewAndroid has help me to solve this similar issue before, my device is Samsung S6.
tong6998 said:
The problem here is the understanding of the word ROOT, those instructions allow you to do stuff to you cid11 s5's yes, however, if you install the LL stuff then yes you can achive root, or even flash an LL rom that already has root, if you install the MM stuff YOU CANNOT and WILL NOT achieve ROOT. There is NO root exploit or method for 6.0.1 What you will be able to do after puting the MM stuff in there is be able to flash a small file and access safestrap to flash whatever zips or things (within context) that you might need, but this will be needed everytime you want to access safestrap. You will also need to flash another file once in safestrap to correctly exit. It Will NOT EVER give you root in MM. But with this you can flash a debloat script and even an add block to make your phone more usable to you. (All of which is explained in detail in the MM section of that thread).
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If you compile the Greyhat Root Console for the S5 Device and use a 6.0.1 ROM still exploitable by dirtycow, there is a chance you may be able to adjust the sepolicy on your device enough, or setup supersu manually. I have yet to try this on my MM G900V. But the code is there. It is just down to the device specific commands to run.
People say dirtycow is a tethered/temporal root that only lasts until you reboot the device, but that isn't always the case if you run the right commands in the right order, or have an APP that sets up the temporal root after boot has completed automatically.
Delgoth said:
If you compile the Greyhat Root Console for the S5 Device and use a 6.0.1 ROM still exploitable by dirtycow, there is a chance you may be able to adjust the sepolicy on your device enough, or setup supersu manually. I have yet to try this on my MM G900V. But the code is there. It is just down to the device specific commands to run.
People say dirtycow is a tethered/temporal root that only lasts until you reboot the device, but that isn't always the case if you run the right commands in the right order, or have an APP that sets up the temporal root after boot has completed automatically.
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My biggest gripe is the native emulated disk-space....I have had LL PB1 rooted on 900V S5 (CID 11) for sometime. But even with de-bloat, tons of lockups, freezing, constantly wiping cache, was hoping a move to MM (with root, hadn't checked in a while hoping bootloader was solved...) would be the savior....
Alas, it seems PB1 rooted is still the way to go as I have an additional "APPS" EXT FORMATTED partition mounted for apps that behave on it...and use APPS2SD and soft-links to keep storage balanced...but it's still a pain...
Now I have that same question, what is panacea?
If I have to get a new phone (pay exorbitant retail price or some "bargain" on ebay) which is the best root-able/boot-load-able or allows for miniSD expansion (hate the finite XXGB storage ever dictates) with space that can all be recognized for Apps+....
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Col. P.
Adopting MM...
c0lp4nik said:
My biggest gripe is the native emulated disk-space....I have had LL PB1 rooted on 900V S5 (CID 11) for sometime. But even with de-bloat, tons of lockups, freezing, constantly wiping cache, was hoping a move to MM (with root, hadn't checked in a while hoping bootloader was solved...) would be the savior....
Alas, it seems PB1 rooted is still the way to go as I have an additional "APPS" EXT FORMATTED partition mounted for apps that behave on it...and use APPS2SD and soft-links to keep storage balanced...but it's still a pain...
Now I have that same question, what is panacea?
If I have to get a new phone (pay exorbitant retail price or some "bargain" on ebay) which is the best root-able/boot-load-able or allows for miniSD expansion (hate the finite XXGB storage ever dictates) with space that can all be recognized for Apps+....
Replies bc or otherwise welcome
Col. P.
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I stand corrected... I now see *Storage Adoption* as part of MM, that could be the ticket for me! Obviously it formats the whole SD as EXT format...which is no big deal for me...at that point, since MM is un-rootable....do I take the leap? Will it really improve the S5?
Thanks for listening!
C0l. P.
painiac said:
You can't. Root is not available for 6.0.1. At this late in the game, it's unlikely to ever be rootable.
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Is it possible to go back to Lollypop version from 6.1
Billy7891 said:
Is it possible to go back to Lollypop version from 6.1
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Yes
how can you that be done .It is my understanding that downgrades would be blocked. Is there another way?