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Advice for Iphone user

Hello all, please excuse the ignorance of this post. I have been an Iphone user from day one of the 2g Iphone, currently having a 3g one. Getting a little tired of the Iphone, and have tried Win Mo on a Touch Diamond (dont hate me but I wasnt a fan of the OS). I have been looking at the vids of Hero on www.coolsmartphone.com, and starting to become quite taken. Was just curious if anyone out there is an Iphone user switching to Android OS, in particular the Hero. Really just looking for some opinions, and I am not trying to start an Iphone haters thread, just looking for some advice.

Although I'm not a huge dan of the iPhone, I much prefer its software to Android. I'll set aside the iTunes store and bandwagon effects (when people develop for mobile, they develop for iPhone) for now.
I feel that Android has too many buttons. There's an end, home, and back button. I'm not always sure which one to press. Also, it has multitasking without and inbuilt task manager. I don't know how to quit vs. hide an app. I think its app specific.
That said, the Hero software is much better than the standard Android build.
I was given an Ion at Google I/O, but I've hardly touched it. The iPhone, even with its own limitations, is still a better phone.

Cheers for the quick reply, still undecided.

I'm not quite an iPhone user, just an iPod touch. All I can really say is that the iPhone has a lot of great apps, browsing and calendar is great, as well as other features. I've never owned an Android device but I'm looking at the Hero too and like how customizable it is. I guess I just want to try something different.

I have never owned an iphone but been a LONG term Winmob user. I moved to Android yesterday and there is no doubt, Android is light years ahead of the current version of winmob, but, and there is a but, when you are so used to something, even good change can be a little frustrating. My point? If you use and like iphone, and remembering (if we are honest) the whole iphone experience is more visually and aesthetically appealing than winmob (with whatever rom you fancy ) ...and in a lot of areas, more functional, then I would imagine you as a long term iphoner would find the journey to hero/android a little traumatic.
You might like it for a day, then think 'but on iphone I did this', etc.
So, in summary, I have made the leap as winmob was just becoming too dated and for me, the nuances are acceptable but for someone from an already decent OS, you may think, after a while, I prefer where I was.

theillustratedlife said:
Although I'm not a huge dan of the iPhone, I much prefer its software to Android. I'll set aside the iTunes store and bandwagon effects (when people develop for mobile, they develop for iPhone) for now.
I feel that Android has too many buttons. There's an end, home, and back button. I'm not always sure which one to press. Also, it has multitasking without and inbuilt task manager. I don't know how to quit vs. hide an app. I think its app specific.
That said, the Hero software is much better than the standard Android build.
I was given an Ion at Google I/O, but I've hardly touched it. The iPhone, even with its own limitations, is still a better phone.
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Free app, tasKiller - works great for shutting down running apps, just put an icon on your homescreen and 2 taps is all it takes.
I was suffering major app slowdown before installing this, sometimes multiple instances of the same app were running and slowing things down, this app is a god send!

Thanks. I figured there would be something like that - my comments were more in reference to the iPhone v Android discussion.

cbailey said:
I have never owned an iphone but been a LONG term Winmob user. I moved to Android yesterday and there is no doubt, Android is light years ahead of the current version of winmob, but, and there is a but, when you are so used to something, even good change can be a little frustrating. My point? If you use and like iphone, and remembering (if we are honest) the whole iphone experience is more visually and aesthetically appealing than winmob (with whatever rom you fancy ) ...and in a lot of areas, more functional, then I would imagine you as a long term iphoner would find the journey to hero/android a little traumatic.
You might like it for a day, then think 'but on iphone I did this', etc.
So, in summary, I have made the leap as winmob was just becoming too dated and for me, the nuances are acceptable but for someone from an already decent OS, you may think, after a while, I prefer where I was.
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Although I will agree with some of your points othese I wont.
I find that andriod is more asthetically pleasing than the iPhone and when you state that the poster would think "the iphone did this" they will also think wow my iphone didnt do this...
To the original poster, why dont you take a trip to t-mobile and try their phone before you buy, only you will know what you prefer.
I used to be an iphone user and hated it after about a week, the main issue for me seemed to be multitasking, amazing how much I use that.
Anyways just my opinion, each to their own, but dont discard the Hero nor should you leap into buying one, read, read, read and try in store.

Certainly, do not discount the Hero, it is a beautiful piece of tech.
If it helps you any, I kept my Hero for 3 days, then returned to the Kaiser. I have sent the Hero back.
Now, is the Kaiser better? As a tech experience, NOT a chance, the Hero is much better. As a functional tool, the Kaiser is more (for me).
Example, it syncs locally, completely flawlessly. The Satnav apps on it are mature and established, if truth also be told, I found an onscreen keyboard not a patch on a hardware one. These are key reasons I need my phone.
Will I go back to Hero? I would have thought very likely. It needs to mature a little, then I will be back in. I will still miss the hardware keyboard though. Pressing a screen is not a patch on pressing buttons. But as an iphone user, that will not be any issue for you.

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I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!

hannanmalik said:
I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!
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I predict you will very quickly long for where you once were and end up with another iphone. Sure of it.

hannanmalik said:
I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!
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Two thumbs up!!
I had an iphone sold it and NEVER looked back, behind all that hype theres actually just a phone with an ipod!!

danchappers said:
Two thumbs up!!
I had an iphone sold it and NEVER looked back, behind all that hype theres actually just a phone with an ipod!!
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Hahahaha. Whenever i see somone with an Iphone its like Whatever. Its like so not 2009. It just got old for me. I sold my Magic to get a Htc Hero:
I had a G1, sold it to my friend from work, bought a Magic, played with it for 1-2 weeks. Sold it and now im getting a Hero soon!

Should I trade my Nokia N900 for a Nexus One?

I have a chance to trade my n900 for a n1. Anybody think its worth it? I really do like the n900 for its multitasking and flash browsing, but I really miss the Android OS since I dropped my G1. Should I trade it in for a N1 or wait it out until my contract is up and then get the N1 so I can have both?

Yes, TENCHAR!

Same boat I was in. I tried a touch pro 2 after I broke my G1 and it was horrible compared to android. I ordered a N900 from Amazon and I loved it, I just don't think Nokia is gonna support it. So I ordered a Nexus one and played with both for about a week and decided to send the N900 back because it doesn't even compare really. Its a great device but not on the nexus ones level

I also had both and ended up returning the N900. I loved the device itself but it was too buggy for me. Also, being an early adopter and having had the entire N series from the N700 to the N810 wimax, I know that the community support is not that large and most of the applications are not mature.
I have been using the N1 for the last several weeks and find that there is really nothing that it can not do.

donutman said:
I have a chance to trade my n900 for a n1. Anybody think its worth it? I really do like the n900 for its multitasking and flash browsing, but I really miss the Android OS since I dropped my G1. Should I trade it in for a N1 or wait it out until my contract is up and then get the N1 so I can have both?
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Yes, if you want a better phone.

Sounds like a bloody good trade to me, I'd go for it.

donutman said:
I have a chance to trade my n900 for a n1. Anybody think its worth it? I really do like the n900 for its multitasking and flash browsing, but I really miss the Android OS since I dropped my G1. Should I trade it in for a N1 or wait it out until my contract is up and then get the N1 so I can have both?
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The N900's a fine device (in some ways more versatile, since I understand it can be wrangled into dual-booting other OSes), IMO, but it depends on your needs/wants. Do you need that physical keyboard?
If not, I'd go for the N1 right away.

A little bit of info on my impressions with the Nexus One, N900 and T-Mobile TP2 at this - post.

Well, currently i am also own Nokia N900, this is a great phone. But again it is lack support and lack of apps, apps and apps on Nokia. Really thinking of switching to Nexus one too. One thing for sure couples of things I will definitely missed is the physical keyboard, multitask and and super smooth browsing experience. Still deciding whether to go for Nexus One.

The N1 also multi-tasks (just not quite in the same manner--no task manager) and the browser's pretty smooth, for what it is.

I actually did exactly that. Traded my n900 for a Nexus One. I don't miss the n900 one bit. I loved the phone, but it doesn't compare to the N1 in my opinion. My biggest issue with the N1 was its lack of a full qwerty keyboard. That fear was eliminated once I had the N1 in my hands. Keyboard works great (especially SWYPE). It's all a matter of personal preference, but I can tell you that I made the right choice! I don't think you'll regret it if you make the trade.

I did similar N97 to Hero to N1 and i am happy about it
Nokia lately was caring less and less for customers, i mean i have E71 - latest firmware make him freeze like you need to pull out battery , exchange it to N97 - last 2 weeks fighting with very unfriendly features and move to android.
And N1 is amazing - fast, brilliant hardware with so many possibilities in software to tailor it to Your likings.
Sucess

The n900 was a joke. It doesnt even provide imap idle for gmail accounts. That coupled with the buggy software, resistive joke screen, etc is a major pita. they cant even get email right on this. This phone tries to be all things to all people, but cant even get the phone thing right, or the internet tablet thing right. You get way more and the option for one handed use with the nexus. Easier standalone device. Unless you want to turn it into a remote or some lame project. I would take a g1 over the n900.

svntsvn said:
The n900 was a joke. It doesnt even provide imap idle for gmail accounts. That coupled with the buggy software, resistive joke screen, etc is a major pita. they cant even get email right on this. This phone tries to be all things to all people, but cant even get the phone thing right, or the internet tablet thing right. You get way more and the option for one handed use with the nexus. Easier standalone device. Unless you want to turn it into a remote or some lame project. I would take a g1 over the n900.
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You said everything I didn't wanna say about the n900. I loved the browsing experience on it though. After picking up the Nexus One though, the N900 is an overpriced, outdated device

The browser was great but the thing i miss most about my N900 was the Skype intergration. Its perfect over 3G or wifi. I hope Android gets an real official app soon.

MvP77 said:
The browser was great but the thing i miss most about my N900 was the Skype intergration. Its perfect over 3G or wifi. I hope Android gets an real official app soon.
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Amen! Integrated Skype support would make the N1 ROCK! I can use Sipdroid and Google Voice to make calls over the 3G connection but having complete integration would be amazing! Also wish Sipdroid would work with bluetooth!

You can replace N900 with any phone and the answer is still yes

I haven't used the N900 for more than 20 minutes or so at the Chicago flagship store, but I was left very unimpressed and have not read anything about it that has changed my opinion much. Nokia needs to leave all of their projects in the oven for a couple more years before I would be willing to switch back.
For reference, I was a die-hard Nokia fan until the N97 came out. That POS disappointed me so much, I switched to the Samsung i8910, loved it, but soon realized Symbian has gotten very old very fast. I also own an N810 (also very outdated), so I'm familiar with the idea of Maemo at the very least.
So to answer your question, yes, I would recommend trading up your N900 for a Nexus One. When Maemo has devices with capacitive screens, multitouch, and a comparably sized community of apps and developers, then we should all take a look towards Maemo. Until then...

Well, I finally took the jump and made the trade. Actually drove about 2 hrs and 30 mins to do this deal. And I don't regret it one bit! Using the n900, I forgot how much more user friendily Android was. I was able to unlock, root and flash a rom in under 30 minutes. All my favorite apps were now put to use again. N900 was severley lacking in apps. As for the browsing experience, I give the edge to the Nexus one. The only thng that the n900 has over the nexus one in terms of browsing was flash. It isn't as smooth when scrolling, doesn't format pages to fit the screen and overall, the N1 loaded pages faster.
Thanks for everones input. Not sure if I would have made the trade without yalls comments. If anyone else is on the fence about switching, do it. I usually only go for phone with a slide out keyboard but the on-screen works better than I thought. My only regret is buying the n900 on launch date and not the Nexus One.

Did the other chap say why he wanted the trade? As you've noticed, it does seem a bit of a step down!
Was it a straight up swap or any cash moving?

Switch to iPhone 4?

Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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Hybbie said:
Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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If you really wont to switch to iOS i'd wait till the iPh*** 5/4s comes out, rather than buying the old model...
EDIT: in terms of web-browsing, it isn't that much slower! (if you can live w/o flash...) iOS runs DAMN fast, even on bad hardware! (i compared my lovely SGS 2 to a friends iP4...)

Try Swype and you will forget about iPhones all together....

Yeah, I think you should switch.

To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?

jr866gooner said:
To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?
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Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.

iOS is great if you're fine with having only icons on your screen... iPhone 4 still wins display clarity IMO... but GS2 has richer colours.
browsing isn't that bad on iPhone but it is noticeably faster on GS2... antenna is better.
I agree... wait for iPhone 5\4Gs whatever they call it.

Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.

As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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FPRobber said:
Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.
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Drowned my blade in coca cola...
It was a sad day! Insurance couldn't give me a new blade and i unfortunately chose a wildfire all the while wishing i had tried my luck for a desire!

Thank you all for your answers.
I think I'm at least going to wait until the new iphone comes out then.
After that, I'll have to see like everyone else hours it stands against GSII.
Thanks again!
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sausagedog said:
As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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I agree with everything above. Again, it boils down to what is important for you. I also thought about iPhone 4, but SGS II prevailed big time, due to things I do with it. You can copy music, videos, pictures any time, hassle free. Really. I never really felt comfortable working with iTunes, never knew what stuff would be deleted. Big argument for me also was the ability to copy and play divx files without needing to convert. I watch loads of movies; just copy to phone and you're good to go. It's a cheesy line really, but think what you plan to do with it.
I went with SGS II and do not regret.

Try swype
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I think since your asking complete strangers your already regretting. I like freedom but android isn't for the computer illiterate.
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The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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Ayhamov said:
The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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What?
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I'd say use what you like and feel comfortable with, since each phone has it's pros and cons.

simonthor said:
Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.
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.... what?

There's a swype version on cydia btw and it looks to be working well judging by the youtube video
If you dont mind the boring walls of icons then youll be fine with the iPhone 4 which has better battery life and gps and the apps to boot.
You'll be missing things like the filesystem and the tweaking on the SGS2 though

Don't forget the loss of flash and better media playback.

Disappointed...

My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.

herzzreh said:
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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I´ve been a Android user for years but since 2 days i have a Lumia 920.
WP phone is nice, it has a nice design, its fast and everything has a nice animation. but to be honest i miss my android. all the custom roms, flashes, apk. downloads. Mods, Design chagens. Honestly man i dont really now.
All in all Lumia 920 is a great device.

Android suits a certain sort of person. The whole "overclocker" and custom PC crowd. For the rest of us looking for an optimal communication device the Windows Phone devices fit the bill.
iOS isn't "optimal" IMHO. So much relies upon launching an app. I can take a photo on WP8 and upload it in seconds to Facebook.

I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s

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I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s
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Did you check your thread? I gave you a suggestion. Also, not being happy with IE10 for not being able to do something most touch browsers can't do (or rather, not being able to do something that is stupid and it shouldn't have to do) is pretty... arbitrary.
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I never liked android, and I probably never will. Hell I like WebOS better. Android is very flexible but even if you put a significant amount of effort into crafting a speedy and efficient environment, you cannot escape android's terrible flaws. I love *nix, and while android is modeled after the *nix's, it completely fails to bring the spirit of the platform over and in the end it's just an inconsistent shameful mess. The biggest problem I have with android is it has the potential for power, but android itself is completely barren of any functionality and everything is left up to apps, and piling apps upon apps, ranging from decently to ****tily programed, results in complete instability and my undying hatred. It really depends on what you try to do of course, but funnily enough all of the things I could easily do with a 700MHz WM6 device caused android to crash and completely fail on a dual core 1.2GhHz tablet. It's the difference between an app-centric device and a computer framework, I guess. Professional code, corporate "apps" and the solid framework of WM6 definitely shine when compared against the largely unprofessionally created software that make up android's market, and while android itself is more or less just OK in terms of quality of code, as I have said, it literally can do nothing on its own. I think the most infuriating example is me trying to set a background, and you need a goddamn third party app to do this, otherwise your picture is plastered with the wrong proportions over the scrolling homescreen thing.
Granted, WP7 and WP8 wouldn't even let me *try* to do the things I would do with WM6, but I thoroughly enjoy the concept of live tiles (which I argue are better than widgets, and they are certainly more embraced by WP devs than widgets) and I thoroughly enjoy the efficient, unified system. After using WP for a while, you start to realize that the phone is a valid platform in of itself, and you don't necessarily need or want it to have the power of the PC; a proprietary and flexible system (like WP8 is now) is very powerful and performs what it needs to do with greater efficiency and direction than you could with a PC. That being said, I picked up my HD2 today and I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the tempting and awesome dark powers of WM6...
Obligatory: and iOS is a joke. I mean, it works, but it's not efficient or well designed in any way, and I think the styling is pretty ugly to boot. It has the same problem that android does with relying on apps for everything, except without the flexibility. I had a dumbphone that was pretty smart to be fair, but it quite literally matched everything the iPhone could do with j2me apps, and the system supported flash (!) and had a native file browser. Quite shameful to be bested by a dumbphone. The only reason iOS sells is because the 'cult of apple', and people are accustomed to the rather bad design since it's been out for a while (which was better than most dumbphones at the time, to be fair, but the system has stagnated because apple refuses to improve upon the original design), and also there are a healthy number of apps that provide decent functionality for the average user.

herzzreh said:
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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You should try emailing Stephen Elop himself and ask how you can buy an unlocked AWS band Lumia. I'm not joking either, lots of people have gotten replies from him and he is a great guy.

"No Nokia Transport on an HTC device"
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If you poke around on the internet... You might find a way or two to get the nokia apps on your phone...

herzzreh said:
My Galaxy Nexus drowned (fu Sandy!) in my living room. Time to buy a new phone off contract, ready and willing to pay full price for the device.
I was looking forward to buying a WP8 device... either Lumia 920 or 8X, but whatever forces absolutely killed it for me.
Nokia with their moronic exclusivity periods and no AWS on the unlocked version. Where do I get the Rogers version for a sensible price?
8X was pretty appealing too until I found out that there is no Nokia Transport on it.
Back to an Android device... disappointed.
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So... you're on T-mobile? Don't overlook the 810. The tech-geek-in-you's first reaction will be, "No HD screen?! No way!" But, consider this, I'll come back to the screen in a sec. The 810 has the exact same specs as the 8X and 920 outside of screen resolution. 1.5Ghz processor, 1gig of ram and so on with one difference... MicroSD card.
Now to the screen. It's 4.3" so not the largest and not the smallest. But, let me tell you... the AMOLED makes this thing pop. It looks really good. Not quite as good as the 920, but better than most. And, with the ClearBlack tech, it's really nice in direct light. Excuse me for sounding like an ad, but it's true. I don't think you can go wrong with the 810 at all. It's light and feels really good in the hand. I can say I'm quite happy with my 810 after getting over the same disappointment as you have about the 920. I just wish it had 16GB of internal storage as apps can only be installed internally and not on the SD card.
But, it's not an overly expensive phone and Nokia says they have the new hotness coming this Spring. So, you can wait and see what that's all about and maybe upgrade at that point. I suggest you head down to ye olde Magenta's shop and take a go at the 810. You may find yourself pleasantly pleased.

3 years ago i've bought htc mytouch 3g (android 1.6-2.3.1). it was something new - after my blackberry pearl.
1 year later i've replaced mytouch with new htc hd7 (wp7-7.5), and i found out, that a smartphone may make calls! and it must not freeze every time i want to call! since 2 years of htc hd7 i've bought nokia lumia 920. it looks like my previous htc hd7 - only better.
my wife has been using sumsung galaxy s for one year. it was the worst phone in her life (by her own words). it had poorest battery life and applications, that you can't kill, but that dry your battery up in minutes and eat a lot of data through 3G. after that i've bought nokia lumia 710 for her. and she's happy! she has a smartphone now, that can call!
i will never ever go back to an android-phone.

I feel the same way. I grew tired of this works but not this constantly searching for new roms over clock under lock blah blahblah. I was tired of it.this phone needs none of that
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I used Windows phone on an HD, it was configurable, I loved flashing roms etc... But I got an original Omnia 7 two years ago, I now have a 920.... unlocked... I like the windows phones, once you get over the "I have no control" thing, you realise, the phone doesn't need flashing e.t.c. it just works out of the box.
Not too happy with IE10 though, as hover over boxes dont work very well.. :s
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For those using wm8... Are app limitations (apparently crappy FB client etc.) real or exaggerated?
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For those using wm8... Are app limitations (apparently crappy FB client etc.) real or exaggerated?
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Heavily exaggerated, I live on FB and the benefits outweigh the negatives by a longshot.

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Exaggerated, I agree. The vast majority of popular apps are available (even if half of 'em are redundant due to built-in functionality, e.g. Evernote, Shazaam, et al.). What's lacking is the ubiquity of every random useless app being available, e.g. Costco or someone coming out with an app (that I can't imagine who would even want) for iOS only or maybe throwing Android in the mix.
For fb in particular, yes, the app has some shortcomings, but the built-in integration is good for 90% of what I need to do without even launching the app; the app handles all that plus most of the rest of anything I'd do. And the phone has IE10 built in, and does a nice job with the full desktop version of the website in a pinch.

Is Hulu available?
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WP has Facebook integration built in. It works pretty well on the whole. Some features aren't directly supported, like reading groups. But if it supported every feature it may as well be branded a Facebook phone.
You can take a photo and upload it to Facebook faster than other devices in my experience.

Exchanged One S for Lumia 820... So far, I'm loving it. I hope that this platform succeeds. I'm amazed that everything just... works! Missing Hulu and Spotify big time though...
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to use or not to use a special FBI (or just FB, if you want ) app is a question of taste. my wife prefers to open facebook.com in safari on her ipad instead of using any FBI application. FBI on WP8, probably doesn't have all the features, the browser version provides, but enough to feel comfortable as much as it's possible to feel comfortable with FBI on a mobile device. and FBI intergration in WP8 is a pretty tasty additional benefit.

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to use or not to use a special FBI (or just FB, if you want ) app is a question of taste. my wife prefers to open facebook.com in safari on her ipad instead of using any FBI application. FBI on WP8, probably doesn't have all the features, the browser version provides, but enough to feel comfortable as much as it's possible to feel comfortable with FBI on a mobile device. and FBI intergration in WP8 is a pretty tasty additional benefit.
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The fun fact is that most FB apps are worse than just using the browser. The only exception I know of is the WP one lol.

Facebook app is so bad that I'm getting pissed of WP8 because of that. And Skype. Yes, I know, Skype is beta, but yet, Microsoft bought it 18 months ago, and I'm pretty sure they know they would release WP8 already to develop a decent and FINAL app for it.
But now, I'm using a buggy version of Skype that doesnt even support chat when i'm not using the app.
And I dont know why Microsoft try to develop the Facebook app. Why Facebook don't do that? Mine is force closing when I'm using the message. Everytime I use it, actually. Push Notifications just doesnt work. No matter what I do.
Ah, guys, I noticed.. Sometimes resuming apps is slower than just re-opening it. Just me?!

Htc one or iPhone 5?

Hello all, I recently upgraded from iPhone 4 to the new htc one. Was abut step for me as flinging from ios to android is so different. I have to say android will take some getting used to.
Which brings me to my dilemma, I'm sending my htc one back, not because I hate the phone,its a great phone but because I'm cancelling my grade with orange due to poor service. I'm going to take a new contact out with O2. With either iPhone 5 or htc one.
Ŵhats all your opinions on it? I researched the htc for months before it came out and am very impressed.except no home button. I'm used to iPhone, so do I go back to what I know or go for the htc???

Without a doubt the htc one

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Without a doubt the htc one
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Thanks for the reply,but can you give me some reasons why?

I'd rather a Galaxy S2 than an iPhone 5! Reason? Android > iOS

There are lots of reasons to keep with both in my opinion:
iPhone for;
Excellent build quality
You know what you are getting re: iOS
Apps will always work, for example skygo app
Any problems within first year and apple will swap it in store
Excellent screen
iPhone against:
Scratches easily
Boring OS
Poor battery on heavy use
HTC for:
Good build quality (apart from problems with the gap etc) although that may not bother you
Bigger screen (you might prefer a smaller screen)
Bigger battery
Ability to modify OS
HTC against:
Some apps don't work (see above)
Any problems with phone and you have to send it off (I would imagine)
Think that's all I can think of at the mo bit it's a starting point

Time for some change buddy, I'll vote for HTC One, due to the number of customizations and openness Android has
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Thanks for the reply,but can you give me some reasons why?
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Yes sure I can here you go
http://www.todaysiphone.com/2013/02/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-spec-sheet-comparison/

htc one
Its a matter of personal taste..
Ios vs android...
But for me it will be the htc one..
I had the iphone 4 the htc hd2 the samsung galaxy 3..
The htc one will have a better screen and better sound..
Both are great phones...

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Hello all, I recently upgraded from iPhone 4 to the new htc one. Was abut step for me as flinging from ios to android is so different. I have to say android will take some getting used to.
Which brings me to my dilemma, I'm sending my htc one back, not because I hate the phone,its a great phone but because I'm cancelling my grade with orange due to poor service. I'm going to take a new contact out with O2. With either iPhone 5 or htc one.
Ŵhats all your opinions on it? I researched the htc for months before it came out and am very impressed.except no home button. I'm used to iPhone, so do I go back to what I know or go for the htc???
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Mate, HTC is a winner and not because its HTC, its due to Sense and Android. You could do so much with Android, apps, customisation etc which you don't with Apple. Looking at the specs HTC is far superior than Apple. Think about it.. its the best phone in the market at the moment. Apple will bring 5s but I don't expect wonders from it..

I wouldn't say without a doubt.
Both are premium phones, HTC One is more durable than iPhone 5. Most significant difference in my opinion is the screen size. One is much bigger, if you like bigger screen, then you should keep it. After that second important difference is hardware. HTC One is a really powerful device. If you like gaming it'd be really nice for you. And also with android you can customize almost everything. And what some iphone users say is not true, android is customer friendly too. I mean, this is a phone not a NASA computer. Cameras are equal, there's no more mindblowing differences between cameras these days. At least in between highend devices. You can find pretty much every app you liked to use in googleplaystore just like apple store. I personally tried HTC One, Boomsound and Zoe are GREAT features. Before trying I thought they are like just little details but they are not, they are gorgeous, they are fun and they are unique.
I liked using the best phone, I don't care about any brand or any operating system ios or android. And in my opinion, for now HTC One is a great looking, powerful device. It'll look classy, it'll work good.

For me the iphone is more like a very expensive feature phone than a real smartphone but even if IOS were like android and apple products would be the best I would never ever buy an apple product simply because I think apple is an evil company the way they abuse the patent system to fight their competitors rather than letting the consumers decide.

OP, are the things you have to get used to on the HTC One dealbreakers for you?
Lol of course if you ask on an HTC One forum everyone's gonna say keep the One. However, Android's not for everyone and if you feel more comfortable back on iOs, then go for it.
Granted I still think the iphone 5 still probably has one of the best cameras. Don't get me wrong, I think the One is a helluva sexy phone but not too impressed at how some of the pics look when cropped at 100%... (still not gonna stop me from getting it tho.. haha, takes better pics than my nexus 4)

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Hello all, I recently upgraded from iPhone 4 to the new htc one. Was abut step for me as flinging from ios to android is so different. I have to say android will take some getting used to.
Which brings me to my dilemma, I'm sending my htc one back, not because I hate the phone,its a great phone but because I'm cancelling my grade with orange due to poor service. I'm going to take a new contact out with O2. With either iPhone 5 or htc one.
Ŵhats all your opinions on it? I researched the htc for months before it came out and am very impressed.except no home button. I'm used to iPhone, so do I go back to what I know or go for the htc???
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Htc one because of ios
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When you used an iPhone you'll need 3 days to know how to use it and after that you just downloading stuff, listen musics, texting, social media stuff'ing and just that.
When you using an android based smartphone.. you'll need longer time to understand how its work, but when you do, you'll be able to modified your phone as you like, based on ROM or just theming it as you like, more longer you trying to understand it, you'll have lot of knowledge about it.. you gonna be smartguy for your smartphone, at least that happen to me, i dont even get it what is this android phone before but after i search a lot about it in this Portal, now i can play with it based on my taste.
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Don't scare him. He does not need roms or anything to use android. He could learn if he likes in future.

I don't think you need the forums help. You have owned a iPhone 4 and a HTC one. I can tell you from experience that the iPhone 5 won't feel much different to the iPhone 4 after your first few days. The iPhone 5 is lovely hardware but not different enough to feel like an upgrade. This is just because the software is unchanged. I would suggest you'll be hankering for a change after the first week of the iPhone 5.
I would go for the One. If nothing else you'll appreciate the change. IOS is rather stagnant.
Better speaker, camera, screen, hardware build is on par. Android is more customisable. Only reason to stay is if your very invested in the ecosystem.
Hope you make the right decision.
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When you used an iPhone you'll need 3 days to know how to use it and after that you just downloading stuff, listen musics, texting, social media stuff'ing and just that.
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I knew ios before android (from an iphone 3gs) but I had a much harder time trying to figure it out than my first android (desire with froyo), tethering, putting some files or music on the device, wifi hotspot, enabling/disabling wifi sync, gps bluetooth etc, updating all are much simpler on android

Go with the iPhone and enjoy the beautiful iOS. Android is a fugly scam.

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I knew ios before android (from an iphone 3gs) but I had a much harder time trying to figure it out than my first android (desire with froyo), tethering, putting some files or music on the device, wifi hotspot, enabling/disabling wifi sync, gps bluetooth etc, updating all are much simpler on android
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Thats not what i meant... not how to use it, but how to, ahh never mind
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Coming from ios im sure youre not into modding and you being on the htc one forum would obviously give you a one sided opinion and the latter if you asked one a ios forum.
So i'll give you an unbiased opinion although i am a ios hater i'll try to be fair.
Feature wise ill go with the htc one. Its packed up with great features compared to iphone nobody cant deny it.
Camera ill go with iphone 5.
Apps and games ill go with iphone 5.
So as an average user i really recommend iphone 5. Its way alot more stable than android.
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