As you can see my phone won't show LTE in the status bar
When I look in the "about" this is what I see
When checking with a tool like LTE Discovery this is what I get
I think I lost the LTE when flashing to polish firmware
...got it back when I flashed a baltic one.
The firmware I should use NEE for nordic contries won't give me LTE and the Xnote dont work either
...any help ?
Would like to use stock or Xnote firmware
It's just an icon rename, LTE is 4G!
Noobs... :sly:
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So the Baltic firmware shows LTE and all other shows just 4g?
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greffel said:
So the Baltic firmware shows LTE and all other shows just 4g?
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LTE icon is region specific. International-based roms, such as X-Note, use 4G instead of LTE. Rogers roms in Canada use LTE as well (not that that matters ).
If youre note is rooted you can add the following line in your /system/csc/others.xml
<CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>TMH<CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>
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labellord said:
If youre note is rooted you can add the following line in your /system/csc/others.xml
<CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>TMH<CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>
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There was a problem with this code ^^ because of browser rendering and WYSIWYG.
Code:
<CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>TMH</CscFeature_Framework_ReplaceDataTypeIconAsOpBrand>
This is what I used and I tossed it FIRST in others.xml, but it didn't change, so I did some digging around and found out that if you toss it in feature.xml it will work. Pasted UNDER any feature.
I'm on 4.4.2 if that makes any difference.
Here its in my others.xml and it works
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It's just an icon rename, LTE is 4G!
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Actually, no, it's not. LTE is 3.9G. It's the step between 3G and 4G.
But in terms of the icon on the device, yes, they are the same thing.
ShadowLea said:
Actually, no, it's not. LTE is 3.9G. It's the step between 3G and 4G.
But in terms of the icon on the device, yes, they are the same thing.
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Nope, not correct. LTE is 4G, not 3.9G.
In fact, LTE is term about technology, and 4G is about generation.
4G may be WiMAX or LTE. Hence LTE is 4G, but 4G is not always LTE, because 4G may also be WiMAX.
But your are correct that in term of the icon on Note 3, they are referred to the same thing.
@OP: Here is the screenshot from the User's Manual.
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Nope, not correct. LTE is 4G, not 3.9G.
In fact, LTE is term about technology, and 4G is about generation.
4G may be WiMAX or LTE. Hence LTE is 4G, but 4G is not always LTE, because 4G may also be WiMAX.
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They're really not.
Long-Term Evolution is 3G Transitional in the family of 3GPP, following directly after HSPA & HSPA+. It is commonly known to be 3.9G, or Pre-4G.
4G is 3GPP LTE-Advanced and WiMAX Advanced.
LTE falls too far short of the required download speed of 1 Gbit/s to call it 4G. LTE has a maximum download speed of 326 Mbit/s.
But providers market it as 4G, and the general population swallows the lie. Even though they(the providers) know damn well it's not 4G. (I had a lovely debate at T-Mobile HQ about that.)
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They're really not.
Long-Term Evolution is 3G Transitional in the family of 3GPP, following directly after HSPA & HSPA+. It is commonly known to be 3.9G, or Pre-4G.
4G is 3GPP LTE-Advanced and WiMAX Advanced.
LTE falls too far short of the required download speed of 1 Gbit/s to call it 4G. LTE has a maximum download speed of 326 Mbit/s.
But providers market it as 4G, and the general population swallows the lie. Even though they(the providers) know damn well it's not 4G. (I had a lovely debate at T-Mobile HQ about that.)
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yes, you are right, but:
...ITU later decided that LTE together with the aforementioned technologies can be called 4G technologies.
...to differentiate LTE Advanced and WiMAX-Advanced from current 4G technologies, ITU has defined them as "True 4G"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)
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yes, you are right, but:
...ITU later decided that LTE together with the aforementioned technologies can be called 4G technologies.
...to differentiate LTE Advanced and WiMAX-Advanced from current 4G technologies, ITU has defined them as "True 4G"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)
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Are we seriously using Wikipedia as a source? :silly:
(It is truly ridiculous how society, instead of telling it as it is, simply changes the definitions of words. Green doesn't even mean green anymore. "My walls are green." "Oh, they're environmentally friendly? Oh wonderful!" "No, I painted them green. With paint. Out of a bucket.")
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Are we seriously using Wikipedia as a source? :silly:
(It is truly ridiculous how society, instead of telling it as it is, simply changes the definitions of words. Green doesn't even mean green anymore. "My walls are green." "Oh, they're environmentally friendly? Oh wonderful!" "No, I painted them green. With paint. Out of a bucket.")
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I'm with @ShadowLea
http://www.strandreports.com/sw3735.asp
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Are we seriously using Wikipedia as a source? :silly:
(It is truly ridiculous how society, instead of telling it as it is, simply changes the definitions of words. Green doesn't even mean green anymore. "My walls are green." "Oh, they're environmentally friendly? Oh wonderful!" "No, I painted them green. With paint. Out of a bucket.")
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No need to tell these useless thing to waste your time blah blah...
If you can read, you can see that the wiki source has provided the link to the ITU website for the thing it said.
Hope you don't tell the ITU is also an unreliable source
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No need to tell these useless thing to waste your time blah blah...
If you can read, you can see that the wiki source has provided the link to the ITU website for the thing it said.
Hope you don't tell the ITU is also an unreliable source
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I'm supposed to be writing a research paper... Plenty of time to waste
You could just as easily have linked the original source. Speaking of wasting people's time...
To me mobile networks labelling lte as 4g is just a marketing ploy to be able to increase the cost of the tariff by supposedly offering something new.
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soooo incredible capable of getting 4g?
no. no hardware for it
That's just wrong. I wont even get update on a new phone for a while. Oh well.
It's not...wrong. 4G requires a new piece of radio hardware to be installed in the phone...besides the fact that Verizon hasn't even lit up the country with LTE yet, let alone 7 months ago when the phone first game out.
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That's just wrong. I wont even get update on a new phone for a while. Oh well.
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how is that wrong? you bought a 3g phone not a lte ready phone, I won't be succumbing to any 4g phones til I'm guaranteed to have the service in my area...plus it's not even on yet for us so why would it
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Its not wrong. Just wanted to see how many people would cry.
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Plus just didn't know how exactly that 4glte and 3g works so. Thought it was just software upgrade
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Thought it was just software upgrade
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lol really?..
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
I would like for this to be true.
Can this be true? Please?
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Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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Wish we had more smarter people like you and looking more positive than crying about oh no we can't have this and that.
Berzerker7 said:
It's not...wrong. 4G requires a new piece of radio hardware to be installed in the phone...besides the fact that Verizon hasn't even lit up the country with LTE yet, let alone 7 months ago when the phone first game out.
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Read the last post and say whaaat.
Hanneman101101 said:
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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well, unless you have something to back up your claim that a software update will enable 4g...excuse me, 3.5g, then your basically talking out your ass. no offense intended, just back up your claims
LTE is actually different from 4G... Look into it and you will see Verizon is claiming that LTE will run at least 3x faster than 4G. Whether they can back up those claims has yet to be seen.
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Wish we had more smarter people like you and looking more positive than crying about oh no we can't have this and that.
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More smart people blowing smoke??? If so I prefer the idiot who has facts.
Im not calling the guy who posted that info an idiot as he specifically said its just what he thought.
Contribute something before saying we need more of the smarter people.
LTE Testing and "G" question
Ok for the 1st thing about radios and software or hardware, as an RF engineer I can say that if the stripline rf sections are capeable of being tuned far enough to run the 700MHZ band, and I will confirm that VZW LTE is in that band as we are running it now, the protocols are different so I do not beleive the chipset will be flashable to run it. They may have indeed looked forward enough to make it so but I have no specific knowledge of it, except that VZW is going to release an LTE version that is in the EVO case but with LTE instead of WI-MAX, good news because front cam and everything. A history lession though is that I have an old HTC PPC5050 in my collection that was an evaluation unit for Sprint back before the 6600 came out and was never accepted and released. This thing had a GPS hump on top of it that really worked when everyone else was AGPS only, and in the spec was EVDO before Sprint even had it. I used it in the first tests of EVDO at ACS in Anchorage and it worked, the first EVDO smart phone and it was never let out, so some strange stuff does happen, I just do not think VZW would have motivation to flash LTE if they could, but just my opinion, could be wrong.
The "G" thing is more company hype and advertising than anything else. LTE is getting 20-35 MBPS with nobody else on it so when it is public, shared, groomed, and throttled who knows but I know it will whip WI-MAX ;-)
It Won't Happen..
LTE Will Require A Sort Of Sim Card...Droid Incredible Has No Sim Card Port. So We Won't Have LTE
You guys make me laugh.
Ill just end up buying a phone that's capable of doing it. Maybe incredible HD.
dadsterflip said:
You guys make me laugh.
Ill just end up buying a phone that's capable of doing it. Maybe incredible HD.
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It will be a few months before there are any LTE capable handsets on the market. Even then, unless you live in one of the handful of cities that will have LTE next year, you'll simply just be using 3G.
najaboy said:
It will be a few months before there are any LTE capable handsets on the market. Even then, unless you live in one of the handful of cities that will have LTE next year, you'll simply just be using 3G.
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i live in LA. so.
Ok. I've pulled the images from the EVO dump of the 4G connection notification symbol...but how would I link them in a custom framework-res.apk to appear whenever I am connected to HSPA+? I would like to know when I have "4g Speeds" without going to About Phone, then Network.
This would be nice!
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agreed ...
Has there been any developements on this subject. Would be really nice to know when I am in 3G or a 4G area. It really should have came that way new
I would also love to see this in somebodys rom!
They could replace the 3G with a 4G, but not both because t-mobiles network is the same tech, just upgraded.
There is no way for your phone to distinguish this in the actual rom. Sorry if this dashes hopes.
T-Fanatic said:
They could replace the 3G with a 4G, but not both because t-mobiles network is the same tech, just upgraded.
There is no way for your phone to distinguish this in the actual rom. Sorry if this dashes hopes.
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The phone's "about phone" section under settings can detect the difference between 3G (UMTS-HSPDA) and 4G (HSPA+), so why couldn't the same info be passed on to the ROM's data indicator?
Why would you want "4G" when the phone is not "4G"....
"H" is good enough for me. it is HSPA+
Why would you want "4G" when the phone is not "4G"....
"H" is good enough for me. it is HSPA+
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HSPA+ is 4G now according to the International Telecommunications Union, so it is a 4g phone and capable of 4g speeds
kakabozo said:
HSPA+ is 4G now according to the International Telecommunications Union, so it is a 4g phone and capable of 4g speeds
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If you want to be "honest about it" Speed requirements for 4G are the peak download speeds are 100Mbits/S for mobile means of communications. HSPA+ is only capable of speeds around 56Mbits/S download.
Technically they (the ITU) have stated our current technology is "4G". but it all honesty, it's only like 3.8G.
Normally that would be true but now legally due to the recent FFC ruling HSPA+ is considered 4G as part of another marketing gimmick by wireless provider. As they all wanted to push for it so now HSPA+ 21 now divide that by half is actually capped on the phone now divide that by half again and thats your actual speed lol. This is why TMo got away with claiming to be the largest 4G network in USA lol hence no one revolted not Sprint or Verizon as TMo beat them at their own game. As delivering 4G in 2010 is just another inside joke you won't believe how many morons would pay or upgrade their dataplan thinking 4G is better without actually getting anything IRL. I had an idiot who argue with me he was getting 4G service on a device that was not even 4G capable. I had to explain to him he is benefiting from the network upgrade but its still HSPA.
If you want to be "honest about it" Speed requirements for 4G are the peak download speeds are 100Mbits/S for mobile means of communications. HSPA+ is only capable of speeds around 56Mbits/S download.
Technically they (the ITU) have stated our current technology is "4G". but it all honesty, it's only like 3.8G.
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I agree with you on the fact that HSPA+ isn't true "4g", i just wanted to point out that people calling it 4g are in the clear....technically lol
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I agree with you on the fact that HSPA+ isn't true "4g", i just wanted to point out that people calling it 4g are in the clear....technically lol
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Yea i agree. I just cannot wait to see what is going to happen with true "4g" starts to roll out.
"Here at ____ have the first 4G system"
"wait i thought you said had 4G back in 2011"
"we did but that wasn't 4G, this IS 4G"
if we cant get the 4g to appear up at the top notification bar why cant we just create an application that polls the about phone for the HSPA+ or UMTS-HSPA and display an icon on the desktop that tells us which one it is? its not the best solution but at least when i'm on the home screen i can tell if i'm on 3G or 4G
THAT would be sooo cook. I hope someone figures out how to do it.
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On CM7 it reads either 3g or H so you do know, but not on stock.
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Okay but "H" isn't what T-Mobile calls 4G. "H" just means HSPA, not HSPA+. The Mytouch 3G was capable of "H" speeds.
I have seen screenshots from Inspire 4G where you get an "H+" icon in HSPA+ to differentiate it from just plain HSPA. Maybe someone can figure out how to port that distinction over to your phone?
cmstlist said:
Okay but "H" isn't what T-Mobile calls 4G. "H" just means HSPA, not HSPA+. The Mytouch 3G was capable of "H" speeds.
I have seen screenshots from Inspire 4G where you get an "H+" icon in HSPA+ to differentiate it from just plain HSPA. Maybe someone can figure out how to port that distinction over to your phone?
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H is hspa for tmobile there is no difference between hdsa and hspa for the notification bar the only way to tell is to run speedtest
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So today I was at the mall and I asked a TMO rep about 4G internet. I said, "How will you know if you have 4G?" The rep said "You will see a letter H". I then said, "How do you know if you're on 3G" He said, "You will also see a letter H". I got to admit that is pretty lame. So is there there 4G is basically a tweaked 3G?
Is it really TRUE 4G?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
marketing is all it is. but hspda+ is pretty fast.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
marketing is all it is. but hspda+ is pretty fast.
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What kind of speeds are you getting on your 4G device?
Here's where it gets tricky. LTE Advanced and WiMax 2 are considered 4G (they don't even exist yet). As of yesterday, ITU (the ones who decide what "4G" is) admitted that WiMax and LTE can be called 4G. T-Mobile uses HSPA+, which is basically really fast 3G. However, even as an Evo owner (Sprint uses WiMax), I have to say I'd rather have LTE or at least HSPA+. Why? Because it's always on as long as you're in an area that has it. And on top of that, it doesn't rape your battery like WiMax does. Besides, you shouldn't by a phone based on how fast the internet is. By the phone for its features, build quality, etc. It's faster than what you already have and that's what matters. Plus, you won't be paying extra for the extra speed.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/itu-capitulates-admits-that-the-term-4g-could-apply-to-lte-w/
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Here's where it gets tricky. LTE Advanced and WiMax 2 are considered 4G (they don't even exist yet). As of yesterday, ITU (the ones who decide what "4G" is) admitted that WiMax and LTE can be called 4G. T-Mobile uses HSPA+, which is basically really fast 3G. However, even as an Evo owner (Sprint uses WiMax), I have to say I'd rather have LTE or at least HSPA+. Why? Because it's always on as long as you're in an area that has it. And on top of that, it doesn't rape your battery like WiMax does. Besides, you shouldn't by a phone based on how fast the internet is. By the phone for its features, build quality, etc. It's faster than what you already have and that's what matters. Plus, you won't be paying extra for the extra speed.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/itu-capitulates-admits-that-the-term-4g-could-apply-to-lte-w/
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Thank you. Great run down!
well like the link says hspda+ is not 4g. none of the "4g" systems are really 4g it is all marketing. that being said on the nexus s which does not have hspda+ chip only a hspda chip here are my results. the top two are wifi results. oh and i'm in phoenix.
I don't get what all the furor is about. No one is bound by what the ITU says. At this point 4G just means "better than 3G." It's hard to fault T-Mo. They've got a network that's considerably faster than what has been normal 3G and is comparable to what Sprint calls 4G. From a business perspective there's no way they could surrender the field to Sprint just because of what the ITU and tech geeks say.
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well like the link says hspda+ is not 4g. none of the "4g" systems are really 4g it is all marketing. that being said on the nexus s which does not have hspda+ chip only a hspda chip here are my results. the top two are wifi results. oh and i'm in phoenix.
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Yeah, and like you said, that's without HSPA+. The highest I ever hit on WiMax was around 12 down, but then again I'm in NYC and I get full "4G" from my house (guess I'm by a WiMax access point). I'd be happy with those speeds you posted though. I do tether on occasion, but 99% of the time I don't need anything faster than that. Oh and another reason why HSPA+/LTE are better than WiMax is because LTE and HSPA+ are/are becoming global standards while WiMax is available in a few countries, though not on phones like in the US. Plus WiMax is basically longer-range Wifi which imo is pretty retarded for cellular use, especially considering the battery drain.
As for why I went to Sprint is another story. It's cheaper (or as cheap) as T-Mobile and you get free roaming on Verizon. I love GSM to death, but I'm a college student and I need to get as much as I can for as little as I can Plus the Evo's f*cking awesome, 4G or not.
I read that the consortium that manages all the standards came out yesterday and said that WiMax, advanced 3g tech(HSPA+) and LTE all classify as 4g
Yup, linked to it in my first post. They admitted they could be called 4G since we're so far off from the original requirements (1 Gbps I believe). What they described as 4G originally should really be 5 or 6G. Pretty steep requirements.
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Is it really TRUE 4G?
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No.
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No.
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correction
YES
Now I kinda wish the Nexus S was 4G capable. ****, if it's no extra charge for extra speed. Why not?! Regardless, love the phone.
slowz3r said:
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did you miss the part where the international consortium that certifies the mobile broad band technology came out yesterday and said that Advanced 3G (HSPA+) LTE and Wimax are qualifying 4G tech
slowz3r said:
did you miss the part where the international consortium that certifies the mobile broad band technology came out yesterday and said that Advanced 3G (HSPA+) LTE and Wimax are qualifying 4G tech
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Link or it never happened.
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Link or it never happened.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
slowz3r said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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Eh, **** man that's still sketchy, with true 4G you're supposed to get way faster speeds, but for now, touche.
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Eh, **** man that's still sketchy, with true 4G you're supposed to get way faster speeds, but for now, touche.
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1GBs as a minimum for 4th gen tech, thats extremely high, im pretty sure they where all high when they thought of that number
LTE 4G in Germany
Germany will be the first country in the EU to deploy high speed, low latency, LTE technology using the 800 MHz digital divided spectrum. Vodafone is one of the first operators to start LTE networks in Germany. The technology should allow for average speeds of 50 Mbit/sec.
Just wanted to throw something out there to both users and developers. I always wondered if it was possible to change the "H" icon to a "4G" icon on a custom rom. Lets leave out the arguement of "Well HSPA+ isnt true 4G" and all of that. I just want to put that question out to developers and ask the G2 users if that is something that interests you. Just for my own curiousity. I personally wouldnt mind seeing it. Im a rooted user using Virtuous.
By the way just want to add that i read more than i post here and i wanna thank everyone who has posted helpful info on here. I love this G2. Glad i switched from Blackberry to Android.
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Just wanted to throw something out there to both users and developers. I always wondered if it was possible to change the "H" icon to a "4G" icon on a custom rom. Lets leave out the arguement of "Well HSPA+ isnt true 4G" and all of that. I just want to put that question out to developers and ask the G2 users if that is something that interests you. Just for my own curiousity. I personally wouldnt mind seeing it. Im a rooted user using Virtuous.
By the way just want to add that i read more than i post here and i wanna thank everyone who has posted helpful info on here. I love this G2. Glad i switched from Blackberry to Android.
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It's just a small graphic element - there's no reason it *couldn't* be done, honestly.
You probably won't see it in Virtuous - the developers have stated that it is to be a pure port with few tweaks than a custom-built ROM (hence they don't support toggles in the notification area, etc).
It could easily be done as a stand-alone mod for any ROM, though.
There is no 4G and therefore a 4G icon should not be made. End of the ****ing story. Dont let the devs start supporting the bull**** marketing.
Its HSPA+. Label it as so.
If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+. That would make the most sense. There is no 4G, I do not ever want to see a 4G icon until 4G specs are met.
Its like putting a V6 sticker on a Honda Civic. It just isn't right.
Both CyanogenMod and Virtuous ROMS display 3G when your on 3G. Hope that helps.
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There is no 4G and therefore a 4G icon should not be made. End of the ****ing story. Dont let the devs start supporting the bull**** marketing.
Its HSPA+. Label it as so.
If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+. That would make the most sense. There is no 4G, I do not ever want to see a 4G icon until 4G specs are met.
Its like putting a V6 sticker on a Honda Civic. It just isn't right.
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gcantrell said:
Both CyanogenMod and Virtuous ROMS display 3G when your on 3G. Hope that helps.
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I knew this, but thank you for clarifying that for anyone else
E, 3G and 4G icons are on sparksmod. 2G, 3G and H are on enomther. G, E and H are on stock. Non of this matters but a preference. What really matters is holding that data for long periods of time.
p.s. And to reference to 4G? This country doesn't have true 4G on any carrier. This has been discussed on another thread.
XFreeRollerX said:
There is no 4G and therefore a 4G icon should not be made. End of the ****ing story. Dont let the devs start supporting the bull**** marketing.
Its HSPA+. Label it as so.
If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+. That would make the most sense. There is no 4G, I do not ever want to see a 4G icon until 4G specs are met.
Its like putting a V6 sticker on a Honda Civic. It just isn't right.
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LOL, calm down. I for one, would also like to see, "E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+"
And Honda Civics in general are garbage, unless they have a swap, then it might have a chance
XFreeRollerX said:
There is no 4G and therefore a 4G icon should not be made. End of the ****ing story. Dont let the devs start supporting the bull**** marketing.
Its HSPA+. Label it as so.
If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+. That would make the most sense. There is no 4G, I do not ever want to see a 4G icon until 4G specs are met.
Its like putting a V6 sticker on a Honda Civic. It just isn't right.
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You do know that the ITU officially stated that LTE, WiMAX, and HSPA+ are now classified as 4G, right?
It would be well within reason to make a 4G icon when on 4G due to this fact.
I actually kind of think it would be better for devs. For example, CM is on several phones across several providers. Verizon with LTE, Sprint with WiMAX, and T-Mobile with HSPA+. Right now CM uses an H icon which is not what providers, other than T-Mobile, use. By using a 4G icon, it would make the new speed protocol icon generic across all platforms, regardless of network.
Just my thought.
Sidenote, a lot of Honda's are V6, even some have V8's, just depends on what one you are referring to. Need to be more specific XD
tazz9690 said:
You do know that the ITU officially stated that LTE, WiMAX, and HSPA+ are now classified as 4G, right?
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wut O_O
No, I had no idea, and am shocked, appalled, and awed at this.
fyi I said honda civic specifically
XFreeRollerX said:
There is no 4G and therefore a 4G icon should not be made. End of the ****ing story. Dont let the devs start supporting the bull**** marketing.
Its HSPA+. Label it as so.
If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+. That would make the most sense. There is no 4G, I do not ever want to see a 4G icon until 4G specs are met.
Its like putting a V6 sticker on a Honda Civic. It just isn't right.
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+1 for the hspa+ indicator. that would be very nice.
***removed my comment about v6 this or that******
XFreeRollerX said:
fyi I said honda civic specifically
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Oopsie
Kinda glossed over the Civic part there. I stand corrected.
yes who the heck knows what h means anyways!
frankly this question is rather useless.....especially when I spend 25 days each month being horribly throttled.
25 days?! How much data do you use each month?
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Honestly
In my opinion i would say it would be nice if per-say thats hspa+ says 4g seeing as hspa is still closer to that of the 3g speed ranges. Just my two cents.
If there were only triggers to check speeds we could have a FUNCTIONAL system....
Say, We have the regular G, E
1 - 7.2MBPS = 3G
7.3+ MBPS = 4G (since ITU officially sees this as 4G)
I think we should go by this system..... keeps things nice and easy.
on a side note I do not understand why they let Sprint's WiMAX become 4G since it maxes out at... I donno 6ish MBPS....... sigh
XFreeRollerX said:
wut O_O
No, I had no idea, and am shocked, appalled, and awed at this.
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your mind=blown
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/itu-capitulates-admits-that-the-term-4g-could-apply-to-lte-w/
crazy talk said:
your mind=blown
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/itu-capitulates-admits-that-the-term-4g-could-apply-to-lte-w/
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I am not happy at this news.
I'd rather have something that distinguishes between HSDPA and HSPA+.
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If ANYTHING is to be changed, I would like to see E for edge, 3G for when I'm in 3G, H for HSPDA/HSPUA, and H+ or some derivative for HSPA+.
Agreed
I have some theories about why Sprint might be going to LTE. Qualcomm has integrated LTE into their newer Snapdragon chips.
Meaning:
1) No need for additional wimax chip
2) Possible better integration into OS, particularly if Google adds LTE to Android.
3) Possible seamless transitions to 4G/3G
4) Mfrs. will be making LTE phones for AT&T and Veirzon. Adding Wimax for Sprint will add to design/implementation/testing cost.
5) Verizon is doing the work for Voice (and text) over LTE, may be easier to piggyback off of that than to develop it for WiMax
6) LTE is already specified/tested for the 800 Mhz bandwidth that Sprint wants to deploy 4G on whereas Wimax is not
1, sprint rushed to be the industry first with 4g.
2, Clearwire didn't have a solid financial foundation and wont give up enough control for sprints liking so they wont move forward with clear.
3,Lightsquared might just give up enough rights to there LTE network to make it profitable for sprint to make the transition seamlessly as possible with a simple chip swap in there towers and software update in house to make the transition.
There are some Pro's too this for the end user.
1, cheaper handsets, to the public
2, better pricing from the carriers
umm in a nutshell signal at 800mhz travels further and penetrates better. network infrastructure for LTE and Wimax make it easy to switch. So if you can get similar speeds, with less LTE antennas and better penetration, I cant see any reason why Sprint wouldnt make the jump. Plus Clear aint looking to good lol
good read if you have the time to read everything there and the links shown too.
http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html
Clear did a piss poor job of building out their 4g network. They were also hell bent on providing retail services to end consumers. Money was spent on providing retail services (retail employees, store front, etc) that could have been better spent on building the network.
My house doesn't get 4g, my subdivision is like an island surrounded by 4g. Just a few blocks away are a couple of apartment complexes, and there used to be a sign from Clear stating '10mb/s tested here' or something to that effect. So it almost seems like they were focused on building out a network in a way so their retail side could make more sales. The focused should have been building solid coverage. Right now 4g is too spotty and I rarely turn it on. It's only useful if you're stationary. This is in Houston, one of the first areas to get 4g.
This is all my opinion of course. I think this is why Sprint wants to build out their own lte network. Sprint wanted Clear to coordinate with Sprint on the buildout, clear wanted to do their own thing and had dreams of having a successful retail side. Now they're broke and wimax build out has slowed to a crawl.
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They'll probably allow the use of WIMAX AND LTE with the Kyocera Echo at the same time. WIMAX on top screen and LTE on the bottom one.
HondaCop said:
They'll probably allow the use of WIMAX AND LTE with the Kyocera Echo at the same time. WIMAX on top screen and LTE on the bottom one.
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Do we need to make another announcement announcing this announcement? Should we get Davd Blaine again or get the big guns? Maybe have Justin Bieber pull a rabbit out of his hair?
cdszoke said:
Do we need to make another announcement announcing this announcement? Should we get Davd Blaine again or get the big guns? Maybe have Justin Bieber pull a rabbit out of his hair?
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That is not where he keeps the rabbits...
sgt. slaughter said:
good read if you have the time to read everything there and the links shown too.
http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html
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Interesting stuff but no links or docs. Are we just supposed to take his anonymous word for it?
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sgt. slaughter said:
good read if you have the time to read everything there and the links shown too.
http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html
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This post is 100% B.S. Wimax and LTE are pure-IP networks and either can be controlled on a per-packet level if the operator chooses to do so.
strung said:
This post is 100% B.S. Wimax and LTE are pure-IP networks and either can be controlled on a per-packet level if the operator chooses to do so.
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Yes they "could" be controlled but the point the poster "RiverofIce" was saying is that it isn't allowed to be done with WiMax in the first place.
the third post has the doc links supporting the LTE policy's and how they will manage the traffic.
form that link.. (which i am the OP of)
you can see how the other carriers with lte are planning to make it a toll road of it... this is 100% going to happen on lte.
wimax .. is open.. full access and should not be limited... of course anything can be designed or created to limit it.
i would rather take my chances with a maybe.. than a 100% sure pocket robbery.
sgt. slaughter said:
Yes they "could" be controlled but the point the poster "RiverofIce" was saying is that it isn't allowed to be done with WiMax in the first place.
the third post has the doc links supporting the LTE policy's and how they will manage the traffic.
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What is the source for the claim that WiMax must be a neutral network? Who enforces this?
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LTE in and of itself is open as well. It's just that there are no rules governing putting in toll roads like on WiMAX. It's just like Android is in and of itself open-source, but others (HTC Sense, MIUI, etc) can and do create closed source iterations. Sprint going LTE doesn't preclude that they will put up toll roads.
hmmm net neutrality. Very controversial topic being debated on the hill with millions of dollars of lobbyist money. I'm more worried about where Justin bieber keeps his rabbit. Now thY
at would be an announcement show.
I'm no business genius but I propose a question.
What if Sprint is just letting Clear wither away for a while so it will be cheaper to buy them up and then do whatever the hell they want to with the network?
DISCLAIMER::: Do not take this as a rumor or start an argument over how I posted this without proof. This is just a thought for a discussion.
^^^
i have heard... sprint owns 51% of clear... so the already control it.
Dan330 said:
^^^
i have heard... sprint owns 51% of clear... so the already control it.
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Yeah. It's just that officially, Sprint is a MVDO (equivalent of Cricket to Sprint) to Clear. Never understood how Sprint could be 51% owner, but yet have no direct control.
I think they should focus on making their 3G network a 3G network first, since right now, I'm pretty sure edge would beat what I get for 3G. :|
Hrshycro said:
I think they should focus on making their 3G network a 3G network first, since right now, I'm pretty sure edge would beat what I get for 3G. :|
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+9999999999 for sure.
Just ran a speed test on 3G. 148/381. Wtf.