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Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
krelvinaz said:
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
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You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+...uId=1951103&st=note3&cp=1&lp=3&contract_desc=
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
will they get that ugly tramp stamp on the home button too?
BarryH_GEG said:
You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
BarryH_GEG said:
I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps.
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They didn't change any thing hardware wise on the VZN S4 just software
BarryH_GEG said:
You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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krelvinaz said:
Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
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Here's AT&T
Here's the UK, LTE bands aren't identified on Samsung, Clove, or Handtec's sites
Here's the EU and LTA from Negri
So AT&T dropped 900MHz UMTS for some reason and is only using 4 LTE bands when the N3's radio supports 6. The EU versions of the S-800 N3 would work fine in the U.S. on 2/3G but not LTE and only VZW branded phones work on their CDMA network. I don't know what question you're really asking as VZW's radio is going to be different from those identified so far because it's CDMA/GSM (for LTE) and will have VZW's LTE bands making it "non-standard" to anything else out there. Same thing for AT&T's. There's some 900MHz frequency in Europe, LATAM, Asia, and Australia so I have no idea why AT&T would omit 900MHz and limit their customer’s roaming options (or the ability to use their N3 unlocked with another carrier's SIM) in those markets. With Sprint being CDMA/LTE like VZW and on their own LTE frequencies and T-Mobile still depending on 1700MHz in most markets no U.S. N3 will be “pure” from a radio perspective; at least not compared to what Samsung ships "stock" everywhere else in the world.
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
Wireless charging
krelvinaz said:
Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
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Yeah I am on Verizon as well and really wondering are they going to block the wireless charging again? Any one know? The branding does not really bother me I would do same if it was my company.
Thinking of putting my note II on ebay and picking up the III. Think there are users out there that would love a rooted Jedi x free wifi tethering phone but that just might be because I love it so much.
VZW International Option
krelvinaz said:
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
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If you check the box when ordering you will be given a choice of which international plan you want to subscribe to. This can be added later, if you don't want to incur the cost upon activation.
Are the Specs for the note 3 On Sprints network released yet?
I plan to get a note 3 with umts 900 from any carrier that supports it.
I hate that At&T always remove that.
Seems like the verizon version will be unlocked.
I might get that and replace the back.
LTE and HSPA Frequencies for the AT&T and T-Mobile Variant
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
Provides links to the FCC site for GN3 versions for AT&T/T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon. This post is regarding supported frequencies. I focus only on the AT&T/T-Mobile model.
The hyperlink SM-N900T goes to the shared model for AT&T and T-Mobile at the FCC. The relevant document is the one called Test Report. Page 6 is where the supported frequencies are listed. For HSPA (WCDMA), it's 850, 1700/2100 and 1900 MHz. For LTE, it's 700 (the AT&T type 700, not Verizon's band), 850, 1700/2100 and 1900.
Apparently, the N900T is used by both carriers despite AT&T and T-Mobile websites giving conflicting specs. For example, T-Mobile's site http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html doesn't even specify the LTE frequency (scroll down to Specifications/International). But you can see from the Test Report to the FCC what they are. AT&T website doesn't even list AWS 1700/2100 presumably for business reasons but it is technically supported.
The hyperlink SM-N900W8 on that Engadget page is for Bluetooth. Ignore it.
There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable.
A cursory look at the Test Reports for the Sprint and Version models demonstrate exactly what is already known or expected.
StarTAC Fan said:
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There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable....
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Until you realized you need wifi calling because you can't get any service with T-Mobile
This is to follow up on my post yesterday.
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
StarTAC Fan said:
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
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Looks like the T-mo version is leading the way as far as supported GSM bands is concerned. in addition, T-mo does not have a history of locking it's bootloaders. Getting the T-mo version and unlocking it to use ATT. (If the nexus 5 underwhelms)
With all the above said... It seems that TMO note 3 is the way to go..... Even with a At&t sim...... Do we know if it is unlocked ? Or will it need to be....... ??
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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I am strongly tempted to do just that. I'm so frieken stuck between this and the z1 though. IDK what to do!!! Halp!
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
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Yup, ordered on the 17th.
Ok means if i buy the Note 3 for T-Mo unlock from negri i can use without any problems with AT&T using LTE,HSPA,3G or phone calls?
And then the developer's edition is now available... cheaper too.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000279
i already have several threads on this topic
Why would they sell the developer edition for less than the locked down Verizon edition?
Can the dev edition be activated on VZW?
usmaak said:
Why would they sell the developer edition for less than the locked down Verizon edition?
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Cause its only Samsung selling it not verizon. and they arent available on contract
skrubol said:
Can the dev edition be activated on VZW?
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yes works perfectly. its made for vzw
oneandroidnut said:
Cause its only Samsung selling it not verizon. and they arent available on contract
yes works perfectly. its made for vzw
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Guess I would have realized that if I had read the big (Verizon) text on that page.. Or looked at the photo of the back.
I assume the $200 trade-in doesn't apply to it, so for most it will be more expensive than getting a preorder.
skrubol said:
Guess I would have realized that if I had read the big (Verizon) text on that page.. Or looked at the photo of the back.
I assume the $200 trade-in doesn't apply to it, so for most it will be more expensive than getting a preorder.
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correct lol and doubt we can get the $200 off on it. and i am going to go for it once my g3 sells and i get regular retail locked note 4
Perfect! Thanks!
I'm guessing this unit will work on most any US carrier. I back ordered mine on Samsung site, hopefully it happens soon and the price stays the same. There's chance may not even be charged tax and shipping is free.
Link
Does anyone have any legitimate source for the LTE bands supported by the Developer Edition?
This is all that is listed on Samsung's site, and frankly, this tells me nothing.
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz;
3G (HSPA＋ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) or 4G (LTE Cat 6 300/50Mbps)***
Seems odd that they would omit exactly what LTE bands are supported by the phone.
-Thanks
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Does anyone have any legitimate source for the LTE bands supported by the Developer Edition?
This is all that is listed on Samsung's site, and frankly, this tells me nothing.
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz;
3G (HSPA＋ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) or 4G (LTE Cat 6 300/50Mbps)***
Seems odd that they would omit exactly what LTE bands are supported by the phone.
-Thanks
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Developer edition has Snapdragon processor, so this one: LTE Cat 6 300/50Mbps
holycow1 said:
Developer edition has Snapdragon processor, so this one: LTE Cat 6 300/50Mbps
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Thanks, but I am looking for exactly what LTE bands are supported. My apologies if I was unclear on that.
Same LTE bands as regular Verizon Note 4:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
jpmcnown said:
Does anyone have any legitimate source for the LTE bands supported by the Developer Edition?
This is all that is listed on Samsung's site, and frankly, this tells me nothing.
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz;
3G (HSPA＋ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) or 4G (LTE Cat 6 300/50Mbps)***
Seems odd that they would omit exactly what LTE bands are supported by the phone.
-Thanks
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PEOPLE it is the exact same phone as the note 4 just with an unlocked bootloader
oneandroidnut said:
PEOPLE it is the exact same phone as the note 4 just with an unlocked bootloader
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Its Samsung Nod to the Developers.
BTW there are two other large threads with Note 4 info this one is redundant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/note-4-developer-edition-verizon-t2881708
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/note-4-developer-edition-getting-t2914508
holycow1 said:
Same LTE bands as regular Verizon Note 4:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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Yeah, this is the unfortunately the same thing Verizon advertises about the Galaxy S5, despite the fact that it also at least supports 2600 (band 7) MHz(and likely more). Verizon only bothers to mention the bands in which Verizon supports, not the phone. Hence the request for a legitimate source. Thanks though.
oneandroidnut said:
PEOPLE it is the exact same phone as the note 4 just with an unlocked bootloader
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No ****. Thanks for clearing that up for no one.
jpmcnown said:
Yeah, this is the unfortunately the same thing Verizon advertises about the Galaxy S5, despite the fact that it also at least supports 2600 (band 7) MHz(and likely more). Verizon only bothers to mention the bands in which Verizon supports, not the phone. Hence the request for a legitimate source. Thanks though.
No ****. Thanks for clearing that up for no one.
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Do you research it will have the same bands smh
digging into bands deeper the first thing you posted it has this at the bottom: * May differ by country and carrier
Network
2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G (HSPA＋ 42Mbps): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G (LTE Cat.4 150/50Mbps) or 4G (LTE Cat.6 300/50Mbps)
* May differ by country and carrier
oneandroidnut said:
Do you research it will have the same bands smh
digging into bands deeper the first thing you posted it has this at the bottom: * May differ by country and carrier
Network
2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G (HSPA＋ 42Mbps): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G (LTE Cat.4 150/50Mbps) or 4G (LTE Cat.6 300/50Mbps)
* May differ by country and carrier
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Oh, I wonder why they bothered to display any specs at all, that last line covers everything. Syh all you want. Considering the Note 4 Developer Edition by all available information, seems to be a Verizon exclusive, it may be fair to conclude that "differing by country and carrier" might be limited to Verizon, and the USA. Further more, the Samsung site displays more/conflicting information with the Note 4 on Verizon's site. (non-developer edition). (4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17) -Hmmm, weird, more than 2 bands listed.
So to reiterate with clarity, does anyone have a comprehensive, reliable source to determine the LTE bands (and frequencies) supported by the Note 4 Developer Edition.
-Thanks
Doesn't matter now...It has now disappeared from the Samsung site, No trace of it...Bummer
Firemedic said:
Doesn't matter now...It has now disappeared from the Samsung site, No trace of it...Bummer
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I wonder why that is? This may suck.
You're right though, it was HERE
I received a backorder confirmation on it, not sure what it means that it no longer appears.
Backorder Date: 10/23/2014
Back Order Items:
Product ID Item Description Price Quantity Item Total
ET-N910VMKEVZW GN4 DEVELOPER DEVICE, SM-N910VMKEVZW $662.53 1 $662.53
I'm going to buy the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910W8 from amazon.com, I seen that's the canadian version. The buyer says that's compatible with all GSMs worldwide, not only in North America. As I'm from Argentina, and the bands in Argentina are GSM-850 and 1900 MHz, does it work here? Also, the 4G LTE is coming to my country by the end of next year, with 1700/2100 Mhz and 700 Mhz bands for it. Does it work here?
GSM Arena says that the SM-N910W8 is compatible with:
3G- HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - N910W8
4G LTE- LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17) - N910W8
As I don't know about this (never seen the compatible bands when I buy a phone as it's the first time I buy one from USA), I don't understand if that means that's compatible or not.
Other question: What SoC does it have? Snapdragon 805 or Exynos? If it's Snapdragon, does it means that's compatible with Roms of other models?
Help please! Thanks!
If you can live with (potentially) reduced lte coverage then no reason you shouldn't go for it.
If you want to ensure maximum coverage then you should really find out what 700mhz band is to be used in your country (band 17 or 28).
Acording to Wikipedia 700MHz band 28
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Which version of Samsung Note 4 phone is a better buy? SM-N910A vs SM-N910W8 [Moved
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
Thanks to everyone, I just decided to buy the N910C version due to I'm sure that it will work in my country (as it's the model that will come here officially). "Preparing for Shipping" says Amazon, I cannot wait!
NYCgirl said:
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
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According to the data, your statement should be correct.
vndnguyen said:
According to the data, your statement should be correct.
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Yes, I just want to verify that I'm not missing anything.
the 910U is better for you. its exynos and works well in north america and europe and most of asia.
That's right. According to Samsung, SM-N910U supports LTE on "B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)". In Europe, bands 3, 7 and 20 are commonly used.
Can anyone confirm if unlocked AT&T models of the Galaxy S 4 and S 4 mini would be compatible with networks in South Korea? Thanks in advance.
jooniloh said:
Can anyone confirm if unlocked AT&T models of the Galaxy S 4 and S 4 mini would be compatible with networks in South Korea? Thanks in advance.
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You'll have to compare which radio frequencies the phone is compatible with and what the carrier uses. I know the first can be found on Wikipedia, and possibly the carrier frequencies also.
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DeadlySin9 said:
You'll have to compare which radio frequencies the phone is compatible with and what the carrier uses. I know the first can be found on Wikipedia, and possibly the carrier frequencies also.
Sent from my SGH-I337
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I did that, and then I ran into this chart and kinda freaked out. Do only the frequency bands matter?
The ATT S 4 seems to definitely have 850 MHz for LTE which SK has in Korea. I couldn't find as reliable information for the S 4 Mini though. Wikipedia also lists SK as having a UMTS/HSPA network at 2100 MHz and according to GSM Arena, the S 4 supports HSDPA on 2100 MHz. So does that mean it's compatible?
jooniloh said:
I did that, and then I ran into this chart and kinda freaked out. Do only the frequency bands matter?
The ATT S 4 seems to definitely have 850 MHz for LTE which SK has in Korea. I couldn't find as reliable information for the S 4 Mini though. Wikipedia also lists SK as having a UMTS/HSPA network at 2100 MHz and according to GSM Arena, the S 4 supports HSDPA on 2100 MHz. So does that mean it's compatible?
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Wikipedia has the international S4 Mini listed with the same frequency bands, and if the I337 has them then I can only assume the Mini would. So as far as I know it should be compatible. However, if you're talking about SK Telecom, their wikipedia page also says things about CDMA, and I don't know if that'll work at all.
DeadlySin9 said:
Wikipedia has the international S4 Mini listed with the same frequency bands, and if the I337 has them then I can only assume the Mini would. So as far as I know it should be compatible. However, if you're talking about SK Telecom, their wikipedia page also says things about CDMA, and I don't know if that'll work at all.
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:/ I was hoping for SK since that had the most matches with bands. Also, I don't think that's necessarily true because when I was looking at S4 specs on either Phone Arena or GSM Arena, they had listed some bands that the AT&T model didn't have that the others did. I assume the same would be the case for the S4 Mini but I don't recall seeing AT&T specific specs regarding the bands for it.
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9505_galaxy_s4-5371.php
and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom#Services
GSM Arena has this:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SGH-i337
No 900 on AT&T.
and
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17) - SGH-i337
No 800, 900, and 1800 on AT&T.
Wikipedia lists SK Telecom as having UMTS/HSPA on 2100 and LTE on 850. Wouldn't that work with the i337?
jooniloh said:
Here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9505_galaxy_s4-5371.php
and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Telecom#Services
GSM Arena has this:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SGH-i337
No 900 on AT&T.
and
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17) - SGH-i337
No 800, 900, and 1800 on AT&T.
Wikipedia lists SK Telecom as having UMTS/HSPA on 2100 and LTE on 850. Wouldn't that work with the i337?
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I suppose it should then, I've just known CDMA and GSM phones not to cross. My friend tried a Verizon SIM in my S4 and it seemed not to work, but I'm not knowledgeable about the differences of GSM and CDMA and whether or not all service will work correctly.
It also supports B2, B4, and B17 LTE
LG G4 (GSM)
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=ZNF&pc=H815
Really good feature and hope it appreciate people a lot.
How will International Version work on T-Mobile US?
I referred to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
LTE:
B2 - 1900 MHz - YES
B4 1700/2100 MHz AWS - YES
B17 No
Wifi calling and VoLTE will not work? HD Voice won't work either?
Model LG H815? Should be ok for ATT LTE, it seems
hmm...
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How will International Version work on T-Mobile US?
I referred to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
LTE:
B2 - 1900 MHz - YES
B4 1700/2100 MHz AWS - YES
B17 No
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So how will this version work on T-Mobile US?
I have less need to T-Mobile wi-fi calling or HD Voice.