[how to] capture pictures from ALL 3 cameras (in RGB, yes) - One (M8) General

If you want to experiment with your HTC One (M8) and want to know about the "secret" second rear camera, then this thread is for you. Works with M8 ONLY!
HTC told the press and the htcdev-members (after releasing the SDK) recently that the second lens of the "duo camera" would be something like a depth sensor. It turns out that this is definitely not the case. It is just a simple RGB-cam with 1080p resolution.
I read about the functionality and concept behind the camera on the following page (German only):
Concept of HTC One M8's Duo-Camera (title modified/translated)
On the page there is a sample App called DuoCamTest. It needs a rooted M8, APK and source can be downloaded.
The guys there used an internal debug-interface located at /system/bin/camera_test to take two pictures at the same time. One with full resolution (4 MP) and one with 2 MP (Full HD) using the second rear camera. On a rooted device you can play around with it.
I discovered a way to identify all the three camera-modules. Don't know, if somebody did this before, sorry:
Code:
cat /sys/android_camera/sensor
cat /sys/android_camera2/sensor
cat /sys/android_camera3/sensor
OK, that was easy. Have fun.

its said to be Duo camera means two cameras but HTC decided to name the smaller one as "depth sensor".

Here's the APK to make it easier for everyone.

RealMcAlec said:
If you want to experiment with your HTC One (M8) and want to know about the "secret" second rear camera, then this thread is for you. Works with M8 ONLY!
HTC told the press and the htcdev-members (after releasing the SDK) recently that the second lens of the "duo camera" would be something like a depth sensor. It turns out that this is definitely not the case. It is just a simple RGB-cam with 1080p resolution.
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Would it be possible for us to take 1080p pictures with improved color/quality?

This app says that it proves the second sensor is a regular cam instead of a magical depth sensor.
Nobody made the claim it wasn't, HTC said the second camera is used for depth information. Key word is used here.
Just my two cents
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superchilpil said:
This app says that it proves the second sensor is a regular cam instead of a magical depth sensor.
Nobody made the claim it wasn't, HTC said the second camera is used for depth information. Key word is used here.
Just my two cents
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Well someone had to make the claim, else where did the claim come from?
Just my two cents

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Camera App w/ features like Galaxy S stock?

Is there a camera app that has some/all of the features like the stock Galaxy S phones have (panorama, action shot, smile detection, add me, etc.)?
My XP
Just thought I'd share my experience.
I checked my LCD info in the system menu and based on that and the washout noticed when tilting my phone, I confirmed I had a bad display. I stopped by the Tmo store just to see what my options were and after talking to a rep who had a good display (oddly, made in Taiwan) and comparing the 2 he agreed to return the phone.
I can confirm that unless you're on really good terms with the employee or get a "cool" employee, they will not let you rumage through all their phones until they find a good one. I had one chance and he managed to find one that said made in China on the box and we opened it up turned it on and confirmed that it was a good screen.
In and out in 30 minutes. He did have to find my original receipt in the system and that took a few minutes but other than that, I was good to go.
Hope this WOT helps.
What does this have to do with the question asked.
Try camera 360 that's a good one.
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jjjackson56 said:
What does this have to do with the question asked.
Try camera 360 that's a good one.
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+1. I use Camera 360 also. Great app. Allows you to choose no compression which in turn produces much better pics (and larger file sizes).
CBConsultation said:
+1. I use Camera 360 also. Great app. Allows you to choose no compression which in turn produces much better pics (and larger file sizes).
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I have Camera 360, but I don't see any of the options for taking certain types of pics like the Galaxy S phones have (as listed in my op - panorama, action shot, smile detection, add me, etc.). Am I missing something???
netter123 said:
I have Camera 360, but I don't see any of the options for taking certain types of pics like the Galaxy S phones have (as listed in my op - panorama, action shot, smile detection, add me, etc.). Am I missing something???
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Camera Comparison: HTC One X vs. Galaxy S III

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
Arcadia310 said:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
The ONE X is the winner hands down! Can I please have a phone with the design, camera and screen of the ONE X and the rest of the specs from the GS3?
ph00ny said:
I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
Damit. HTC One X has much better photos. I guess I will wait no more. Bye bye good old sgs2. I guess HTC is new king!
Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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Imho the wider aperture of the HOX is really paying off.
Let the straw grasping begin.....
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The One X is marketed as having the best camera hardware. The SGS3 is marketed as an all around device.
If u want good photos, go One X. For everything else SGS3
Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
ph00ny said:
They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
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I'm not sure! But google gave me this:
HTC’s ImageChip is responsible for most of the things that would traditionally be done on the SoC ISP. 3A (Autofocus, Auto white balance, and Autoexposure), lens correction (geometric and chromatic correction), noise reduction, best shot selection, continuous auto focus, controlling gains on the CMOS sensor, LED flash level decision, region of interest identification (augmented with face detection) and so on. This is all stuff you can verify yourself by taking apart some of the ISP related files - curiously enough internally ImageChip is actually referred to as “rawchip.” This is also the hardware responsible for enabling HTC’s extremely fast image continuous capture and frame grabbing during video capture (HTC Video Pic). It’s somewhat analogous to what Google and TI did with the OMAP4460 on the Galaxy Nexus, except discrete and with a much more ambitious focus.
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
qwerty12601 said:
There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
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True..The photos looks worse than SGS2. Also EXIF data missing.
Here's another site where you will get some photo comparison between SGS2 and SGS3 at full resolution and EXIF data.
http://android.com.pl/artykuly/arty...ksele-test-aparatu-samsunga-galaxy-s-iii.html
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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Wel phonearena thinks the same.Its legit since they provided proof.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...alaxy-S-II-vs-Nexus-vs-N8-vs-iPhone-4S_id3006
Going by them its even worse then the SGS2.
Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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May be something is wrong with GSMARENA? Have a look at this test
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_vs_htc_titan_2-review-755p3.php
they claim that Lumia 900 takes better pics than HTC Titan II, whereas even their own samples show otherwise. I tried to post a comment on this there, it never appeared due to their censorship...
I really doubt that the photos appearing on android central are legit. The phone hasnt even gone out for reviews and this guy has it in his pocket on the streets and shoots randomly? rofl
The polish site's photos look way better.
rd_nest said:
HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
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So you disagree with what you said in your 'comprehensive comparison'? If it's so comprehensive, you should include reviews from more than one source, instead of the most critical one you can find
Bull**** I call, not taken with a S3. Samsung murder HTC. Always have, always will. And I'm a One x owner.
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[Review] One vs. One X vs. Auto Enhanced photos (camera review)

Hey guys,
Today I took both, my one year old HTC One X and my new HTC One for a walk through town and I wanted to show you my photos.
The first picture is always from the One, the second one is from the One with the Auto Enhance feature and the third one is from the One X.
Taking a photo of the TV makes the picture flickering. I am not sure what's the reason for this, as it doesn't happen with the One X's camera. It also doesnt happen with my computer screen, just with the plasma TV.
The following pictures are taken pretty much in the same light conditions, however I wanted to show them all to you
In low light conditions the One seems to be ahead of the One X, at least if it's not completely dark ...
The following two pictures are taken at night time and to be honest I am very disappointed in the One:
I think even with my DSLR it would be hard to get a good photo in this light, but in my opinion the One X's photo is better than the One's photo.
All settings are standard with both phones. Maybe there are some settings to improve the camera, but it won't make a huge difference.
Looking forward to your feedback!
Thanks! finally versus the One X
yes as expected the One X had a great camera (2x the detail) its only in low light that the One beats it
as for the settings its discussed greatly in the photo thread
The One images can be washed out due to the high brightness levels in them and they seem to improve greatly once auto enhanced
check the auto enhance post here
as well as tweaking the camera settings ofcourse (exposure, contrast, sharpness etc)
I also suggest reducing the sharpness to -1, as its too aggressive by default
by the way when zoomed out, i'm finding your HTC One pictures better
Great comparison! Thanks!
In your opinion, which of the phones took "truer to life" pictures? We can tell that the colors between the One and the One X are different - it seems like the One X is adding a blue-ish hue to everything - but without seeing the original scene, it's hard for anyone but you to say which are better.
Also, it would be cool if, as the poster above me said, you could run HTC's enhance function on the One pictures and add those to the comparison
I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.
muayyadf1 said:
I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.
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Yeah, I agree about the detail to noise ratio. I prefer that over more megapixels.
Stupid phone just needs to get a US release date...
The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post
PCServe said:
The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post
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Awesome, thanks! "Auto enhance" seems to add to some pictures, and detract from others.
I think the One is less noisy than the One X during night shots taken with auto enhance, at least...but I'm not really an expert
The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.
PCServe said:
The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.
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I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.
Gosh terrible quality from one.
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Silellak said:
I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.
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No auto enhance is in gallery as well on the one x, but some customs mods added it to the camera
I didn't even like the camera on the One X when I owned it. This is making it even easier. The HTC One is even more like an oil painiting than the One X. None of the pictures look natural looking. The HTC One has an even more processed look than the One X, with higher contrast and sharpening and noise reduction. What is an oil painting? Look at the examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_painting
Looks like an HTC image doesn't it? I want natural and realistic pictures, not instagram oil painting filter. HTC can't seem to figure that out, nor even allow a RAW image for those who hate the oil painting look. Even third party cameras only get piped the imagechip processed image.
The HTc One camera is even worse than the One X camera and even more unnatural looking. The only improvement is in pitch black lighting, which look like crap regardless and people seldom take pictures in pitch black. The overcast and indoor shots which the HTC One is suppose to be better at are actually worse than the One X. So it is all around even worse than last year's camera.
shame on new child of High Tech Computers!!!
Thank you. Finally the review I was waiting for.
I really love my one x camera and I wasn't sure about the one's performance outdoors with good light, after reading almost every review of the one's camera.
The main concern was the new 4 mp (ultrapixels) sensor that should capture less detail than 8 mp on the one x.
After reading this review I am convinced that the larger pixels (ultrapixels) compensate the move from 8mp on the one x/DNA to 4 ultrapixels on the htc one and the htc one captures the same details as the htc one x. For example when zooming at the 7th row pictures the lincese plates of the 4 first cars, both on the htc one and one x are readable.I don't think any other 4mp sensor would capture this detail.
My conclusion for this test:
Outdoors good light: Tie
Outdoors low light: htc one wins, although the htc one x's picture on the last row was better.
Indoors low light: htc one wins.
Video (not on this test): The video on the htc one is two steps forward from the htc one x and the best on every smartphone. period. The OIS stabilizes the video at low light and the dual membrane microphones make every concert a joy to the ears, not like the crappy microphones on the one x or every other smartphone.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UIf3qqF4s
Now that I am convinced that the htc one is better than my one x in every aspect I am really waiting to have it in my hands.
The 4 MP camera was my main concern before buying the phone and I didn't like the idea of taking a step back compared to the 8 MP camera of my One X (and even 5 MP on the HTC Desire I've had before that).
After testing the ultra pixel camera for a few days now, I have to admit, that I am quite impressed with the 4 MP ultra pixel cam and I won't miss the One X's camera at all.
If I want to take some serious pictures, I will always use my DSLR, however for snapshots and the everyday use for Facebook and Instagram, the One will be perfect and better than any phone I have ever had.
Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...
You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
I too have both one x and one, the one takes much much better photos overall, after trying it in every light and with the sun directly shining on the lense etc the one camera is impressive, and I do not miss my one x camera at all
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hamdir said:
Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...
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That's an issue with OIS not resetting. Not sure if this is a hardware or software issue.
JesseMT4G said:
You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
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if u have it blurry all the time it might be a defect

[Q] Htc one (m8) camera having not enough megapixels possible fix

I just want to know if it is possible to use the multi shot technology found in the oppo find 7 in the all new htc one m8 to end the bickering of not being able to crop images. The find 7 is able to stitch multiple photos together to create a 50 mp shot with only a 13 mp camera. I think it would be amazing if an xda developer was able create some software to work with the htc one m8s 4mp camera to get it to take sharper photos. I also want to know if it is possible because the m8 has a really low mp count.
kodalitiger said:
I just want to know if it is possible to use the multi shot technology found in the oppo find 7 in the all new htc one m8 to end the bickering of not being able to crop images. The find 7 is able to stitch multiple photos together to create a 50 mp shot with only a 13 mp camera. I think it would be amazing if an xda developer was able create some software to work with the htc one m8s 4mp camera to get it to take sharper photos. I also want to know if it is possible because the m8 has a really low mp count.
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Have you tried PROCAPTURE?
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HTC one m8 camera upgrade
Hello guys, I wanted to ask if anyone knows, if it is possible to put m8s's dual camera(13MP) to m8. As much as I looked cameras are excaxt the same size, shape and connections but it will work? Is there driver for it to install? My HTC One m8 is rooted, thank you.

[Discussion] HTC Eye

So I've been reading multiple articles talking about HTC releasing another variant of the M8 called HTC Eye which is basically just the M8 with an updated front facing camera as well as a 13mp back camera, honestly they should have done this the first time around but I'd like to hear otherwise people's thoughts on this, will you be purchasing the new phone or will you stick with what you have, personally I probably will be switching because I take a lot of pictures and this camera is terrible even with its "ultrapixel" feature.
AnimusVoxx said:
So I've been reading multiple articles talking about HTC releasing another variant of the M8 called HTC Eye which is basically just the M8 with an updated front facing camera as well as a 13mp back camera, honestly they should have done this the first time around but I'd like to hear otherwise people's thoughts on this, will you be purchasing the new phone or will you stick with what you have, personally I probably will be switching because I take a lot of pictures and this camera is terrible even with its "ultrapixel" feature.
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It was leaked that the device code name M8_eye will have the same hardware as the original except the 13MP Duo Camera. the front facing camera is the same 5MP. Keep in mind that this statement is not 100% accurate or true. if HTC took this route then it might mean that the HTC one M8 is the last phone with Ultra pixels. Sadly i wish if HTC tried to do something for better pictures keeping the Ultra Pixel technology instead of ditching it as it take very good night shots but it seems that people wont appreciate low pixel count and want a higher MP even tho the 4 Ultra Pixel Camera takes overall better shots than the 13MP found on the Desire 816 in terms of color accuracy and lighting ( thanks to @hamdir for comparison) keeping the only issue is zooming. everything will be revealed on the 8th of Oct so lets see what HTC is hiding for us.
But I had also heard that the back camera could still use the ultra pixel technology, I'd this is true it would mean that the camera would be one of the absolute best you can get
Thread closed as this forum is for the m8 only. Other types of phones, if released will get there own forum.
Many thanks,
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