I'm on stock MF9 now. But would like to return to Cyanogen or Negalite 4.3. Can I still do this? Do I need to do something different now when I root, install recovery, and then the ROM?
You got to ODIN the MJA Firmware.
- Root, Install Recovery, Flash FIRMWARE VIA ODIN, Flash Rom
heyjoojoo said:
I'm on stock MF9 now. But would like to return to Cyanogen or Negalite 4.3. Can I still do this? Do I need to do something different now when I root, install recovery, and then the ROM?
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For Cyanogenmod, you don't have to do anything. Im not sure about negalite.
Once you go on 4.3 you're stuck there the bootloader is locked, but you can root. Although you will trip the Knox warranty and void any warranty you have and the only way to get a phone if something happens is going to cost the deductible. .so before you do anything. ..make a backup
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emod0705 said:
Once you go on 4.3 you're stuck there the bootloader is locked, but you can root. Although you will trip the Knox warranty and void any warranty you have and the only way to get a phone if something happens is going to cost the deductible. .so before you do anything. ..make a backup
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
has the new modem with out the bootloader so problem solved.
And, there are also a couple other pre-existing threads on this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498397
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I have a L720 running the MK2 4.3 Stock(ish) and the PhilZ Touch ver 6. I want to remove all of these and reinstall the stock MK2 in advance of the new kitkat release. How do I remove all of these before reloading the stock MK2?
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I have a L720 running the MK2 4.3 Stock(ish) and the PhilZ Touch ver 6. I want to remove all of these and reinstall the stock MK2 in advance of the new kitkat release. How do I remove all of these before reloading the stock MK2?
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Flash the stock MK2 file found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601443 and your phone will be back to stock unrooted and ready for the OTA. Your data will still be in tact.
I'm hoping this is the right thread.
I'm fairly new to the S4 coming from an S2. I did root MK2 using SafeRoot method. I should not have tripped Knox or anything like that. I unrooted with SuperSU unroot option. Everything looks OK except the Device Status shows Custom. I haven't gotten the OTA yet, but when it comes in, is it safe to try, or am I going to have problems?
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Dennis_H
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I'm hoping this is the right thread.
I'm fairly new to the S4 coming from an S2. I did root MK2 using SafeRoot method. I should not have tripped Knox or anything like that. I unrooted with SuperSU unroot option. Everything looks OK except the Device Status shows Custom. I haven't gotten the OTA yet, but when it comes in, is it safe to try, or am I going to have problems?
Thanks,
Dennis_H
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It all depends if you modded or disabled anything in the system partition. Including the hotspot mod. If you have, the ota will fail and you need to Odin the stock mk2 tar.
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It all depends if you modded or disabled anything in the system partition. Including the hotspot mod. If you have, the ota will fail and you need to Odin the stock mk2 tar.
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As far as I know, nothing in the system partition got changed with saferoot, and I never got around to installing any new recoveries or adding the hotspot mod. The hotspot mod was the real reason i rooted, but got a little concerned/confused after reading about it.If the custom in device status doesn't cause issues, I'll wait to get the OTA and then start reading about the HS mod again to see how to implement in 4.4.2 without tripping knox if possible.
Thanks for the info.
Dennis_H
Can someone help me take my S4 back to 4.3? I got the OTA update for 4.4 yesterday morning and have had nothing but problems. Terrible battery life (40% down in 3 hours with little to no use) WiFi wont turn on thanks to this piece of junk Knox software. So before I dump Samsung completely for a Moto X or Nexus, can someone help me downgrade from 4.4 back to 4.3 where I had no problems?
Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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Were you totally stock before the OTA? If you still have warranty left, I would bring it in to a Sprint store and *****.
If not, you can try one of 2 things. 1) flash the NAE tar file using odin to see if that fixes your issues or 2) flash the MK2 tar file to bring you back to 4.3
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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sponge14 said:
I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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Yeah, I think you are right. Can't go back to 4.3 once you have the 4.4 bootloader, my bad. I wonder if you should do a factory reset to see if that clears up your issues.
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You're correct with not being able to go back to mk2 4.3 via Odin.
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Is there some other way of downgrading? What about going back to Cyanogen's full release?
Well that sucks that you can't go back to 4.3
I had the same issues when I updated and was kinda pissed at it to but a factory reset and it been running way better ever since and I'm rooted with xposed installed and no complaints
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I went Cyanogen at one point, didn't like it, and flashed back to stock. When the OTA hit I was rooted but had made no changes from stock, not even an uninstall of a Samsung app. I am backing things up now to flash the NAE again, but I want a version without this Knox garbage in it. Is there such thing?
I read that you can't flash back with Odin from 4.4 to 4.3 so I don't know how to do option 2 at this point.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I believe once KNOX Bootloader has been installed, your stuck with it. No going back.
But honestly, if you root 4.4, your gonna void KNOX.
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I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
sponge14 said:
I don't want Knox on my phone at all, it's garbage for me. Are you saying I can't even go Cyanogen at this point?
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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You can still have all that. KNOX is just the warrantly flag I have KNOX on mine, but I still have rooted and flashed other roms.
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Ah OK, I don't care about the warranty, it's out in April anyways... Looks like I need to try Cyanogen again, hopefully it's better this time.
i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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You're saying your bootloader went back to MK2 after this? Didn't think that was possible. I've had nothing but stupid little issues myself after using Odin to flash the phone to NAE. I've done factory resets... Completely wiped the phone in Philz. Tried KToonsez kernel as well and stock NAE just sux! I'll probably just flash Liquid Smooth back on it, was only trying to stick with stock NAE for stability and camera , that phone is my girls and she doesn't have the patience for all the bugs that come with custom Roms lol
Anyways just want to confirm that with you. Thanks
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i have gone back to 4.3 with odin.....use odin 1.85.....*First flash the mk2 modem or it will fail**.....why? i dont know...
so here is what i do....1) Odin first the mk2 modem...2) Odin stock Mk2 rom...3) Odin philz latest recovery...4) boot into recovery..goto philz settings and tap " re-root....5) reboot and enjoy.....
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I don't know if that is possible for those of us rocking triband. Obviously we cannot use the Mk2 modem or rom. In any event, I upgraded to 4.4.2 on my new L720T and regretted it, but now I'v" managed to install twrp and rooted it and the rom settled down after a few days. At first, horrible battery use but now its amazing. My battery reads 75 percent after 14 hours and that's quite good enough. The only issue I still face is the SD card thing, but that only seems to apply third party software as I can move files directly from internal to external memory using the stock files app that comes with android.
i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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i dont know about triband. i dont have one and im not going to pretend im a smart dev because thats also not true.. i HAVE ODIN 4.4.2 THEN turned around and ODIN 4.3 due to something i didnt like...im not sure if it changes the bootloader or not, i dont even check. i have only tried this with mk2 to nae.. when i purchesed my device it came with mk2 so i have never tinkerd with the other bootloaders. if you have something other then mk2 id ask a dev befor doing anything. like i said it works for me as long as i flash the modem FIRST that corrisponds to the build. ( mk2 or nae )...and in some cases if the wifi is borked on nae, iv had to flash the modem again after instalation of the rom.. i cant explain why any of this happens....
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Lol I know what you mean... Sometimes things just seem to work or they don't.
But that's interesting you can go back to mk2 after being on nae. I figured that was not possible. But if you didn't get any fails in Odin while downgrading that's great. Maybe I'll get ballsy and try this later.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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Is there a stock 4.4 Rom out there I can try, preferably one without Knox? Sprint has recommended that I unroot, that they have a tech bulletin where rooted phones have wifi, and other issues.
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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You have a link to that bulletin??
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No that's just what the escalated Tech Support person from Oklahoma City told me.
I also just wiped the cache and did a factory reset and still have the same wifi problem...
As we all know attempting to roll back NAE trips knox...but it's been stated that rolling back without rolling b ask the bootloader will not trip knox...but this is unconfirmed. ..has anyone tried it? Anyone willing to?
And let's say I want to try it myself...I've never used Odin before now so how would you set it up to flash just the ROM?
If you have the true Knox Bootloader - took the OTA or flashed via Odin...
As of now you CANNOT go back to a non-knoxed bootloader.
If you wish to try what has been done, probably hundreds if not thousands of times and try - go ahead. You'll find that out.
Your question is brought up a few times a week, sometimes a day here.
"Rolling back without rolling"? As leader stated you cannot roll back via Odin to a previous OTA build. And that is not what trips Knox. Rooting doesn't even trip Knox. Its installing a custom recovery that trips Knox.
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"Rolling back without rolling"? As leader stated you cannot roll back via Odin to a previous OTA build. And that is not what trips Knox. Rooting doesn't even trip Knox. Its installing a custom recovery that trips Knox.
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If i've already tripped knox, can i still install a custom recovery and flash the nae roms?
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If i've already tripped knox, can i still install a custom recovery and flash the nae roms?
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Yes you can.
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Yes you can.
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Thanks for the reply.... do i need to install a recovery through odin or could i use goo manager? What would be the best option to install the newest Philz recovery? THanks again
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"Rolling back without rolling"? As leader stated you cannot roll back via Odin to a previous OTA build. And that is not what trips Knox. Rooting doesn't even trip Knox. Its installing a custom recovery that trips Knox.
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Ment to say "rolling back without rolling back the bootloader"...apparently auto correct decided I ment to say something else.
So basically. ..The attempt would just fail..and that's it..Ok all I needed to know...and thanks for the clarification on the custom recovery thing. I've read conflicting info.
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Thanks for the reply.... do i need to install a recovery through odin or could i use goo manager? What would be the best option to install the newest Philz recovery? THanks again
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Grab the latest 'unified' build from Philz site http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/jflte and Odin it
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"Rolling back without rolling"? As leader stated you cannot roll back via Odin to a previous OTA build. And that is not what trips Knox. Rooting doesn't even trip Knox. Its installing a custom recovery that trips Knox.
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So I took the OTA to 4.4.2, are you saying that there is a way I can root my phone without triggering know? Is a custom recovery necessary?
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So I took the OTA to 4.4.2, are you saying that there is a way I can root my phone without triggering know? Is a custom recovery necessary?
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there was with 4.3 using Kingo app or Saferoot. But it seems neither have been updated to work with 4.4.2. CF auto root is the only way i know right now to root and that roots the phone my installing a temporary custom recovery which trips knox. so as of now there is no way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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there was with 4.3 using Kingo app or Saferoot. But it seems neither have been updated to work with 4.4.2. CF auto root is the only way i know right now to root and that roots the phone my installing a temporary custom recovery which trips knox. so as of now there is no way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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Right that's what I thought. I know I kept up with my homework and reading but I thought perhaps I missed something..lol. Thanks!!
Looking to unroot and want to know when did they introduce the knox bootloader. Basically I want to downgrade and let my phone upgrade back to nae with ota's. I'm currently nae modem sac's 4.4 rom..
MJA I think. Once you take OTAs to NAE you will have Knox.
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Why take the ota when you can just install the full nae tar and be updated in one quick and easy step.