Hey XDA. was just wondering. been seeing a lot of positive reviews on windows O/S and samsung is thinking about releasing a windows O/S soon. so What is stopping me from having a play with it?
there are many things. but the easist one is the architecture. smartphones normally use ARM while a pc uses x86 or x64
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Why does everyone keep asking this question?
On just about every tablet forum this keeps being asked with negative response being given everytime.
I believe someone on the Acer A500 thread got a stripped down version of win 95 running but there were still problems with drivers.... As for the latest version, no chance....
I mean the actual windows 8.1 for phone, like the one on the nokia!
just buy a nokia
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When the windows 8 was released and are able to support ARM processors, I was elated.
So I went about looking for ways to install and review the windows 8 for myself on my netbook. And I must say, I am pretty impressed so far.
The foot print of the platform is definitely smaller and the running of apps much more efficient than its predecessor OSs.
Now I am all hyped about wanting to port the windows 8 to my phone.
I was surfing around the web for installation info or guides to port the windows 8 onto my Omnia 8. But I cannot find anything useful.
Any one here knows how to do that?
Please advise.
ahgong said:
When the windows 8 was released and are able to support ARM processors, I was elated.
So I went about looking for ways to install and review the windows 8 for myself on my netbook. And I must say, I am pretty impressed so far.
The foot print of the platform is definitely smaller and the running of apps much more efficient than its predecessor OSs.
Now I am all hyped about wanting to port the windows 8 to my phone.
I was surfing around the web for installation info or guides to port the windows 8 onto my Omnia 8. But I cannot find anything useful.
Any one here knows how to do that?
Please advise.
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windows 8 is 14gb. i doubt the nand chip on your omnia is that big eitherway MS are yet to release an ARM version.
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windows 8 is 14gb. i doubt the nand chip on your omnia is that big eitherway MS are yet to release an ARM version.
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Yeah... I know.
But I am sure the ARM version will be scaled down to fit mobile devices.
Take the tablets for example, if the windows 8 is not scaled down specifically for the ARM versions, a 16GB tablet would only have about 2GB of memory left after the windows 8 "Upgrade".
Then those who have 8GB tablets, would not be able to even consider installing windows 8 on them!
hmm... looks like we will have to wait for the mobile versions to be released.
Any news or rumours in the grapevine?
Have you guys learned anything more about the Windows 8 RT/mobile version. It would be really great if someone can port it to the Omnia 2.
OK, couldn't find a similar thread, so I will make a new one. I am a Noob when it comes to tablets and their OS restrictions (I've heard of boot-loaders and stuff but don't know exactly what they are).
So to the question - say I get something like this: Lenovo Ideatab K2110, which runs on an Intel X86 architecture.
Then when Windows 8 come out, can I get a license and run it on the device? Will that be possible? I know it is sort of early, but I am thinking about tablets and evaluating the options. Not really a fan of Android and iOS as I've always used windows, so I was just wondering if I get an Intel-based ICS 4.0 device, whether I can upgrade to Win eventually if I am not happy with it.
Also, I haven't found anything on the net, for convertable Android Intel-based tablets (like the Transformer) - anyone read anything on the topic? As if I upgrade to Win 8, I'd prefer a keyboard-dockable device.
Any help will be much appreciated!
To clarify - I am asking because of affordability - currently Win 7 tablets are very expensive. But if I get Android and decide that Win 8 is worth the money eventually then I will probably invest in it. I know the switch from Win 7 to Win 8 will be easy but Win 7 is crap until Win 8 comes out AND it is more expensive than Android so I see no reason to buy such a device.
And while on topic - how much would an Android shave off the price of a similar system with Win 8? Are Win 7 tablets so expensive because of the hardware or because of the software?
Edit: Just saw a similar thread in the Dev forum! I guess someone else has the same idea as me and it sounds plausible! Just waiting for an appropriate dockable device then Still, anyone heard about any convertible tablets with Intel chips?
You may be the first one in XDA say that Windows 7 sucks.
yeah, it can be suck for Tablet because it is a platform which Windows 7 wasn't aimed for.
And i don;t have a clear answer for the question because they can have the same hardware but install an OS on it is a different story.
For an example, in order to install Windows on a iMac is a stupid progress, even other PCs can use the same specs.
On a tablet it isn't good as far as I am aware. On my laptop - I love it. Anyway, are we going to know for sure when the Win 8 beta and some Intel Android device is out? I mean, would guys around here work out whether it will be possible at that stage?
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On a tablet it isn't good as far as I am aware. On my laptop - I love it. Anyway, are we going to know for sure when the Win 8 beta and some Intel Android device is out? I mean, would guys around here work out whether it will be possible at that stage?
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I bet most people here would buy off a tablet which run Windows 8 on a Second Gen Core i series.
ASUS seem to be a great deal over this.
does it use the regular BIOS when turned on? if so then yea it'll work. Im not so sure about that touchscreen though, there might not be drivers available for it. It really depends if the controller has been used regularly in windows, or if its some obscure chip that is only now being used in that device.
Based on little knowledge,Win 8 needs 'bios' , be it tablet or mobile.
OEM have to customise the hardware architechture.
I guess win 8 should run all the apps of win 7, based on the excellent backward compatibility of win o/s in general. again certain apps depend on the hardware architechture and the customisations the OEM offer. I may be wrong
As of now, the chaces for such porting seem low, unless some developers here in the community come up with another solution.
as long as it can have BIOS loaded, and drivers can be created, then the answer is yes, it will be possible
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as long as it can have BIOS loaded, and drivers can be created, then the answer is yes, it will be possible
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Thats exactly it,and with the cheap intel based android tablets coming on the market now,2 years later,this takes on more importance. I do wonder what boot loader they are using for the android tablets. I see that AMD is going to start getting into the mix,and that could be interesting because I understand that AMD has been supporting coreboot. If coreboot is ported to the chipsets in use,it might make an easy path to putting windows or linux on those tablets. Basicly,core boot handles low level hardware initialization,then loads an EFI or OpenBIOS payload,then your off and running In fact,if coreboot is ported,we might even see some RUN coreboot as the bootloader. With android,I can see simply using coreboot to directly boot into the linux kernel,and into android. But if they use it,its open source,so they need to release the code,and your good to go.
>Intel Android tablet to Windows 8?
OP should keep up with tech news.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/3/5267360/intel-dual-os-pc-plus-android-windows-microsoft-objection
TL;DR: Per the piece's header. But MS & Google aren't onboard for turf reasons.
Edit: Oops, just noticed this thread is 2-yrs old, being necro'ed by last posting dude. Disregard response.
many tablets with dual os are available now
e.mote said:
>Intel Android tablet to Windows 8?
OP should keep up with tech news.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/3/5267360/intel-dual-os-pc-plus-android-windows-microsoft-objection
TL;DR: Per the piece's header. But MS & Google aren't onboard for turf reasons.
Edit: Oops, just noticed this thread is 2-yrs old, being necro'ed by last posting dude. Disregard response.
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onda v919, teclast air ii, air 3g , etc and many others have dual os.
The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?
Possible, yes
Legal, no
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Why would you want to?
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The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?
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Maybe but why would you want to put that crappy OS on it?
i would like Ubuntu, not some m$ s*it
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Possible, yes
Legal, no
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Unlikely, as win8rt will only come as builds dedicated to a specific device (with that device) and the win8rt bootloader requires a secureboot-enabled EFI bios with _only_ the MS keys embedded. (E.G. how often did windows CE get hacked onto a device that never had it)
_If_ we see win8rt on other T3 Kai platforms, that end up exploitable _and_ people are able to hack out the EFI secure bootloader stuff, then _maybe you'll see a ropey build do the rounds, but I wouldn't count on it
No and why would be the answer.
Windows 8 won't run windows apps and it's a step back to the dark ages in UI design.
Microsoft have also locked have ensured that windows 8 will only boot on approved hardware with signed EFI certs. This also means that a windows 8 ARM tablet won't boot anything else either.
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Windows 8 RT sucks anyway, even if it was ported most people wouldn't care because it's RT and Arm based so it's not like your installing diablo 3.
now if someone releases an intel x86 android tablet, thats another story.
Still, can't wait for Microsoft Surface Pro, that thing looks amazing.
As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.
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Yea. But can it run Crysis? :laugh:
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As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.
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The RT model uses tegra 3.
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Any Nexus forced to run Windows would die of shame... Might as well ask if it would run Ios6.
This has troll written all over it. Shame on you OP..lol.
sorry... (hangs head in shame)
Don't be ashamed. This is a very legitimate question.
Windows 8 finally brings a true mobile windows. And it would be awesome if the nexus could dual boot into it.
Now Windows 8 RT kinda sucks ass since outside of office your just running windows phone apps basically though i'm sure that'll change eventually.
Plus, windows 8 is not really meant for a 7" screen, more like 10" minimum right now.
but as it's been said, it'll probably never happen due to many different reasons.
my advice, save up for a surface pro thats coming out in december/january
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sorry... (hangs head in shame)
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Nah man I was fukn wit ya.lol Your cool..:laugh:
That's it. This is possible?
Thankss!!
I think Samsung will Do that. On ativ smart pc it is preinstalled, porting it to RT shouldn't be to much work for them
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Well here is the Snote. http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-US/app/s-note/894a71cb-01fa-4da3-9b77-9e8b6877c686
We need to change the manufacturer to Samsung, I've tried with Regedit but I can not change that.
That is only x86 / x64, not for ARM
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My portatil is HP and X64. I can't install this Snote.
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Any new updates about this? Really want to use Snote on my Samsung Win8 machine.
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Any new updates about this? Really want to use Snote on my Samsung Win8 machine.
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continue to investigate ...:fingers-crossed:
You will need samsung to port it. No-one else can without source code.
It isnt specified which of the 3 models of ativ are being asked about here.
If its the full ativ smart PC and smart PC pro then there is no reason why samsung could not do it.
If its the ativ RT then it will be MUCH harder for samsung as you cannot run desktop applications on those devices beyond those which microsoft included on the device and those running via the jailbreak. Samsung would never create software for jailbroken devices and SNote for metro would be an entirely different application (but they could do that anyway).
Hello everyone!
This is my first post, so excuse me if I make any mistake, but I precise that I've made some researches before posting here.
So, I pledged the Remix Ultra Tablet on Kickstarter which will run on Android 4.4.4 and soon on Lollipop.
The thing is that this tablet has a Tegra 4, like the Surface 2 right? So I wonder if there is a way to dual boot with Windows 8 or 8.1 or RT or any form of Windows.
I would like to keep the Android part because I really like it, so a dual boot would be amazing.
Do you think it is possible? If so, can you help me in the process please?
I precise that I have no experience with any Surface Tablet, or any form of Windows Tablet RT.
I only have a little experience with Android, root, flash on my OnePlus One.
Thank you
That probably won't happen, I imagine Linux or Ubuntu are more likely in the future. Due to the Remix being a Surface clone already I would worry about the porter being sent a C&D letter from Microsoft.
Also I have only read of the HTC HD2 running RT thanks to the WP8 kernel that was previously available.
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It's not that I don't believe you, but I just would like more answer and be sure I can't :/
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Well there's still the main issue of no android device having UEFI support, which is important for W8/10 and Windows phone 8/10. However that won't matter because Windows is a licensed OS.
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Wouldn't say that RT isn't completely impossible on your device. You said it's a Surface clone and the Surface 2 does infact run a Tegra 4, like many other Windows RT tablets & laptops.
8 or 8.1 however is written for a completely different cpu architecture.
Just notice that RT and PC versions of Windows differ. You won't be able to install any programs downloaded from the internet, like on a PC. Only apps downloaded from the app store.
Personally I would rather stick with android since Microsoft's app store has very little to offer compared with Google's app store.