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Get a Universal NOW or wait ?

Hello people. I hope you can help me here!
I'm from the UK. I've been looking for a PDA/phone for AAGES. The closest 'ideal' is the HTC Universal, or more specifically, the O2 XDA Exec.
I require VGA, WiFi, Fast CPU, headphone jack, Bluetooth, GSM/UTMS, WM5.0, SD/mini, etc. Basically, everything that the Universal has. I intend to use it as a phone, web browser, audio/video player and games.
HOWEVER, the thing thats stopping me buying is... well, two things. Firstly, its the SIZE. I've held it and tried it in my jeans pocket. My friends look at me weird. It's massive.
Secondly - its been out for a while now. I'm worried something new is around the corner. The closest match i can see is the HERMES. However, lacks the 640x480, headphone jack and has micro SD.
I would definitely appreciate some help in this sticky situation.
Regards.
Kev.

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Man, I wish...
No seriously. If you want VGA, options are virtually nonexistent I think.
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Get it now.
Reason: While the successor to the current Universal will offer true VGA and much more (also probably running WM6.0), it could be as much as a year's wait. It still offers more than current and foreseeable future options in many aspects.
I don't think that this Willcom es is going to be anything great, the specs did not boast anything to make my jaw drop.

Hiya!
when it comes to electronics, theres ALWAYS something around the corner!
While we all like to have the latest gizmo's and gadgets, I prefer to buy my items after the initial furore dies down. The last Xbox 360, forthcoming PS3, the PSP, various PDA's, PCs, LCD tellys etc etc have new designs and features every few months. If you waited for the next best thing you'd never buy anything at all !!
The universal is quite large, however, I 'usually' find it's users who are stepping up a little from having normal mobile phones and testing out PDA's who say this.
Because were' all so used to having much smaller phones, carrying and seeing the exec makes it look like a brick!
The Xda Mini S (and it's other names) is a good alternative for people like this - the Exec seems to be for more experienced and/or power users mainly.
Just so happens I have a brand new '4 week old' Exec for sale!!!
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!

vijay555 said:
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Man, I wish...
No seriously. If you want VGA, options are virtually nonexistent I think.
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Yeah they things look freakin awesome, I would get one if it wasn't for the lack of WiFi- I mean like why have a QWERTY keyboard and VGA screen if you can't go online with WiFi?

What are the names of the known devices that are to come out in the next year or so with similar or greater specs than the Exec/M5000?
I basically want to know what I can look forward to....

No one knows about a VGA replacement.
Surur

get it.
i'm still somehwat new to all this and got alot of advice before diving in and buying mine. i pretty much live by it now. really, the size factor is more a current perception of what is too big. i don't even notice mine anymore. it may seem an eye sore at first, but large screen it well worth it - like a little tv. really not all that big. i see people with nintendo sidekicks and such which is just as big. keyboard though no laptop, can really get you buy for majority of mobile computing. nothing overall had as many features either. it does everythign i need.....and i got my off ebay for around $600.

The prices of second-hand HTC Universal are falling now, so have a look on ebay (I got my refurbished unit for 240 pounds!). Then it should last till whenever the next VGA replacement comes out.

Yeah, you can now get a secondhand Universal from a relatively well-known chain for £300 with a 12 month guarantee if you're in the UK (which I prefer to do, rather than risking the whole ebay thing).
If you're lucky it'll be in mint condition, but in any case it won't be too battered and you have peace of mind for a year. That's how I've replaced my lost JasJar with a nearly-new Exec, anyway.
Back to the original post, I seriously considered waiting for the FS T830, despite it's puny screen but decided against it mainly 'cause I'd rather be stuck in the middle of nowhere watching movies on my VGA screen, than using GPS to find my destination with a 240 x 240 pixel eye-strainer.
Nothing else really on the horizon. The Hermes looks nice, but it'll be practically the same price as the Universal, and of the two I'd rather have the Uni. Of course, next summer there'll be all sorts of competition, but who wants to wait 12 months....?

sub69 said:
Back to the original post, I seriously considered waiting for the FS T830, despite it's puny screen but decided against it mainly 'cause I'd rather be stuck in the middle of nowhere watching movies on my VGA screen, than using GPS to find my destination with a 240 x 240 pixel eye-strainer.
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LOL agree. But then wouldn't watching "Lost" make you feel nervous?
The T830 looks rather thick too. But hey, that's what everyone says about the Universal.
And what shops sell second-hand gadgets? I know you can sometimes get refurbished items from shops like PC World (who don't sell phones, I believe) but they are rare and are often battered.

Microsoft Kin

so these are the two new phones from Microsoft.
KIN ONE:
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KIN TWO:
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What are your thoughts?
Has this remotely something to do with the WP7 core?
Can it be ported to other devices?
These phones are clearly intended for the "social generation"; success / fail?

well i actually like it. it just shows how awesome windows phone 7's full blown version will be. isnt it ironic that most of the KIN website is done is flash.... lol silverlight WHAT?!
also i like that we wont have to worry about LAG from now on lol...

Looks really good....nice as drinking a can of 7up !
Videos below !
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15292
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15296
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15297

i quite like the kin2, but the kin1 looks like a tamagochi to me and a 5mpx camera with such small screen? dunno :S

Don´t like any of them
They should made something spectacular instead of this...
But MS will never loose....

nanoware said:
well i actually like it. it just shows how awesome windows phone 7's full blown version will be. isnt it ironic that most of the KIN website is done is flash.... lol silverlight WHAT?!
also i like that we wont have to worry about LAG from now on lol...
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lol, A wink to iPad/iPhone/iTouch maybe??
But yeah, strange indeed.
My impression regarding KIN
The buttons of the KIN2 could be somewhat bigger, maybe have some other look to it, They look like shiny, cheap plastic buttons out of toys..
But then again, these are mock ups, maybe they look and feel great IRL (doubtfull, but no way to tell at this moment).
The Kin1 looks like a girls-phone, there the design works, and the buttons actually look better.
The bottom piece is bigger than to top piece, I wonder how that will work out.
But the resolution of both screens are low:
KIN1 320x240 (QVGA!!)
KIN2 480x320 (HVGA)
And Kin2 is supposed to be for video watching?
Come on, please enter the year 2010, I am not asking 1080i on a mobile, but VGA/WVGA is totally feasable..
EqX

What the hell does kin mean? Why did my apartment cut off my cable? Why is my mom orderin cable from at&t? Why am i mad? Why am i writing in all caps? Why do i prefer kin 2!?

I think it's a good first attempt at cutting into the Android/Palm market. I know plenty of chicks that would be into this stuff.

rorytmeadows said:
I think it's a good first attempt at cutting into the Android/Palm market. I know plenty of chicks that would be into this stuff.
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I don't. 10+

So these are original, running wp7 core, purpose designed, well built, purpose packed, zune pass over the air, updates over the air... retailed with Verizon which the kids like...
I think MS got a winner, it will sell well, the UI is gorgeous.

If this gets the backing of XDA this could be amazing.
The lack of 3rd party apps is a slight worry though.

I wasnt expecting anything good with these phones after all they are made by "SHARP" and SHARP suck d**K in technology products. For those that own a product sorry...what ever you say it sucks and I am not interested in your comment.
Bare in mind that these 2 phones cover the section of crappy (low tech) handsets in the market.....like from Nokia, SonyErric, LG etc.
If you actually compare the CRAPPY handsets out there and chuck these 2 in with them these phones actually PWN them all !
SO well done introducing something new and PWN'ing the crappy handset market.....NEXT !!

vardig said:
I wasnt expecting anything good with these phones after all they are made by "SHARP" and SHARP suck d**K in technology products. For those that own a product sorry...what ever you say it sucks and I am not interested in your comment.
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You clearly haven't seen some of there Japanese phones, there actually quite good.

They look 'kin awful.

I think the KIN ONE looks cute we will have to wait to see what they really like?

This Kin stuff, aren't Microsoft like wasting resources on another seperate os?

This is kind of neat. You could argue it's not really a smartphone, but I like it. It's a brilliant piece of minimalism - it's all the essentials done well and nothing else. The big question for me would be the browser. If the browser's great then I can really live without most apps, if not I can imagine it feeling restrictive after a while.
To the gentleman above, I don't really think that MS is wasting resources here. They're probably reusing a lot of the same code, and just tweaking the UI for a different effect. But what an effect! I really don't think there's anything else like this one the market.

Neither appeal to me...you would have thought MS could have done way better than those relics!

Do we even know what screen size each device has? I will say I am kind of envious of the fact that the Kin 2 has what could be a nice 8mp camera with flash.

Honest to god those might just be the two most hideous phones I've ever seen.

Let's laugh at iPhone "iNone" 4

Let's laugh at iNone 4
AppleCare: The iPhone 4 Update Won't Solve the Antenna Problem
Well this is just a nice way to come back from a holiday. It seems someone at AppleCare has stated that the iOS 4 update won't solve the antenna issues so many users are complaining about on their new iPhone 4. Apparently it will change the way the antenna indicator calculates bars, but that won't solve what happens when you touch the left lower portion of the antenna.
We'll still call this post a rumor until we see the update to the OS actually working and confirming it as a fact, but according to Gizmodo, they gave AppleCare a call three times today and in these three times they got the same "pretty much read" responses:
• There is an antenna interference problem when you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain way
• One solution is to hold the phone differently, avoiding to touch the left bottom corner of the phone
• The other other solution is to buy a case or one of Apple's $30 bumpers
• The incoming software update will not fix this antenna problem, only change the way the phone displays the available signal, make it more accurate
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
ok what now??
The solution? ahaaaa right, I forget to write the solution
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no no no!
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Yep, it will not work with an update - and Apple is reacting as allways ....
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
Discussion on Apple Forums (cached on Bing) http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=co...48&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=6fddb6d,f506f19b
and the typical reaction http://www.tuaw.com/2010/07/12/apple-drops-consumer-reports-discussion-threads-down-memory-hole/
At least my HD2 works
Nice solutions anyway - not as stylish as i would prefer but i guess without any problems

a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe

RedDevils88 said:
a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe
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but that looks ugly and cheap

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you get the point

recently i was talking w/ a frind of me about the hd2 (he really wants one and sorfs this forum very often) and we began to talk about the iphone.
[flame]
we began talking about the new "features" of the ios 4 (about 2/3 of those "features" are supported by wm/android for ages; the others are useless, like increase digital zoom for the camera). i then took a look on apple's ios4 web site.
for your sanity i advise NOT to take a look on that page, i don't know if i should laugh out loud about what is written on that page or rather bash my head against a wall.
beginning at that "facetime" stuffs (video telephy) that only works when connected to wifi, to the "security measures" and busibess functions, it's all either "wtf lol" or "wft lame" or even both for me.
and in the headline it states "With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS — Apple’s mobile operating system — is the foundation of iPhone. And even as other phones try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS 4 keep it years ahead of the competition". come on.
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We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.

Pagnell said:
We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.
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even tough i posted here i must say that you are right. we laugh about the iphone/ipad especially if there's a vid on youtube of some guy bashing his ithing with a baseball bat but cry if someone throws his hd2 at a wall .
but we all need some valve.

Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology " system allows your objects to be moved in spacetime, allowing you the freedom to arrange your surroundings with one easy push.
Apple gives you the power to manipulate obects in ways you never thought possible, allowing you the creativity you need to get ahead. Any other methods of moving matter are relegated into obscurity, as you are so far ahead of evolution people will travel back in time just to be humbled by your superiority as an Apple customer.
Only $499 for all this productivity, and only $49 a month thereafter! "iWheel, the product humans have been waiting for, since Jesus."
*cue 2million mugs cough people emailing apple to get on the iWheel waiting list*

jem85 said:
Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology "
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I love the acronym you can create from that. Good show mate, good show...

I forgot to put a link to this topic!
http://gizmodo.com/5580587/applecare-the-iphone-4-update-wont-solve-the-antenna-problem
and of course it is not me who write this topic
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
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Battery is for being "capable".

Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...

Battery performance actually did advance with processing technology over the years. It's not just sheer capacity that tripled, but efficiency became better. A top-end phone of today easily has 10 times more performance than a smartphone of 4 years back with so much bigger and higher-res screen not to mention extra antennas and extra ongoing processes, yet when HW/SW is properly balanced, it can last the same full day. Samsung and HTC are doing it right lately while Apple is particularly power-efficient, to expect anything more there has to be a battery tech revolution.
Much bigger manufacturer BS is storage capacity. A 64GB module hardly costs more than $20 for them and all gadgets should start with that going up to 256GB, but at least HTC is skipping the 16GB variant and you get a healthy space for starting price. You see they can't really put significantly bigger battery in a phone where they could put more storage in it, they just don't want to.

Are you specifically moaning about the HTC one or just phones in general? The one, in reviews, has been shown to perform admirably.

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/sigh

Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.

No.

mass.w said:
Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
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hey - in all seriousness, i found what you need.
phone

it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years

you may believe I need your response more?

mass.w said:
it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
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so why are you posting it in the HTC ONE FORUM
a phone that is not released, not thoroughly reviewed and YOU DO NOT OWN

by mistake, sorry.
however your replies were not even funny.
i suppose sure htc is not a leader regarding battery-exeperience

Samsung's response to the iPad Pro.

Can't imagine a logical customer base for this.. Seems kinda ridiculous to offer a tablet so large without simply making it a laptop. A laptop size screen with the restrictions of a tablet? No thanks.
I'd like to hear other peoples opinions on this.. Maybe there is a use for it that I can't think of
Oh.. And FIRST. Jokes

First of all, it's not a response to the iPad Pro.
The only similarity is perhaps that both are fairly niche.
This is the sort of thing that might be used for presentations, exhibitions, or for a bedroom as part TV, part tablet/desktop (if used with a BT mouse/keyboard).
With news that Chrome OS is merging into Android, this thing may even become more useful in the future than anyone can think of right now.
Personally, I have no desire for one, but can see what Samsung is trying to do.

This is not trying to be a laptop, it is trying to be an entertainment device. So this is closer to a TV than a tablet. If you look at it, it is designed for watching Videos and other things like that. With that in mind, there is going to be some market for it, just do not know how big. There is a company, Nabi, that make a 20" and 24" "tablet", but they also are going for the entertainment device. They show some nice videos of people playing some nice multiplayer games, where it is laying on the table between them, sort of like the table that Microsoft was trying out a few years ago....
So, no this is not a response to the iPad pro... If anything, the iPad Pro is a response to the Samsung Note Pro 12" tablet. Samsung has done two lines of tables in the 12" area previously, maybe they will bring back the Note 12" if they want to compete with the iPad pro.
Thanks...

Samsung has history of introducing new type of devices like they did with the Note series or Galaxy Edge concept and many more. Apparently most of these are greatly successful. So we never know this could also gain popularity among users

Would be interesting thing if specs were better.
Now I will 100% sure miss this one, but if it got Snapdragon CPU, 3-4GB of RAM and hi-res display (really, 1920x1080??) situation might be totally different. And as a multimedia device this should relly come with AMOLED screen --> black would be black, no backlight bleeding.
Maby someday..

jonmorris said:
First of all, it's not a response to the iPad Pro.
The only similarity is perhaps that both are fairly niche.
This is the sort of thing that might be used for presentations, exhibitions, or for a bedroom as part TV, part tablet/desktop (if used with a BT mouse/keyboard).
With news that Chrome OS is merging into Android, this thing may even become more useful in the future than anyone can think of right now.
Personally, I have no desire for one, but can see what Samsung is trying to do.
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Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic

Stevles said:
Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic [emoji14]
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There are other Bluetooth controllers, but I'll admit it would have made sense to include one (or offer one designed specifically for it).

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There are other Bluetooth controllers, but I'll admit it would have made sense to include one (or offer one designed specifically for it).
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True that, and it would make more sense to actually market it towards this type of person.. Rather than just lazy people that want a portable streaming device that would be too uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time. Hence the stand. I've taken my tablet all around the house and streamed things off of it (Netflix mostly) and never once went "hey, what if I bought an 18 inch tablet that weighed over 2kg and didn't offer the convenience of a normal size tablet?"
Here's an Australian article looking at the functionality of the Galaxy View.
Seems very much like something you might benefit from if you're living on your own and don't want a proper TV (proper TV sucks anyway in Australia, hence my usage of Netflix) but probably not so much in a regular size house hold

First i'd like to say, Samsung released the Galaxy note pro 12.2 almost a year ago, so if anything, Apple is responding to Samsung. I own the note pro 12,2, which has Samsungs S pen, that doesnt need to be charged. I can also split the screen into 4 seperate windows, as well as cascading more windows on top of those.
Anyway, I will be purchasing the Galaxy View. I have always wanted a large tablet, and at 18.4 inches, the View will be perfect. I use my tablet for web surfing, digital magazines, comics, and lots of Madden, as well as some writing. I have a Samsung bluetooth mouse and keyboard if I need to do a lot of typing.
As far as specs, the screen resolution doesnt bother me for what I use it for. I also have a 17 inch laptop which I rarely use. Its just something about a tablet thats just more convient for me.
For me, i'm a fan of innovation, and for me, Samsung does it for me.
Just my opinion.
Galaxy note pro 12.2
Galaxy Tab S
Galaxy note 4 edge
Gear S
Gear S2
Acer 17 in laptop

Stevles said:
Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic
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Samsung did think of this... It has an app called "Galaxy View Remote" that can be found in the Samsung App Store... works via Bluetooth using your phone or tablet.
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