[Q] KNOX app installation? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Of the 4 carriers in the USA to have the S5, only T-mobile says that the device is KNOX compatible. The S5 doesn't have the KNOX app installed nor does the Samsung app store have it. How do I get it? Just wait for a T-mobile update? How did it work with the Note 3 with T-mobile?

Why do you use it?
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From what I read it makes the device more secure. I was able to find it using Root Explorer and doing a search for KNOX. It showed all the files and even one that allows you to install it so it shows up as an app.
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eyecon82 said:
Why do you use it?
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I'd like to set up a few containers for different activities, at least one for banking. I'd probably use the other one for secure social communication.

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Vzw app asking for root?

I just rooted my asurion replacement note 3 for vzw. Upon rooting and re installing some apps I got this...
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Dra$tiK said:
I just rooted my asurion replacement note 3 for vzw. Upon rooting and re installing some apps I got this...
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I would deny that request... Maybe Verizon is figuring out how deactivate root using app updates..
It's a trap!
2swizzle said:
I would deny that request... Maybe Verizon is figuring out how deactivate root using app updates..
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Dra$tiK said:
I just rooted my asurion replacement note 3 for vzw. Upon rooting and re installing some apps I got this...
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I agree, that does not look correct at all. That would be like asking for root access when we use my verizon app, to see how much data we've used for the month
Well, that's interesting.
It suggests that asurion is adding apps prior to shipment.
Could you check to see whether it was installed as a system app (instead of in /data/app)?
Also it would be useful to look in the system manifest (.xml file in /data/system somewhere) to find out what privileges it has?
e.g. with network + other privs (device serial #) it could have already turned you in, as it is not normal for a "su" binary to be present in non - rooted devices, whether or not you granted the app root rights.
I am also curious if the boilerplate legal docs you signed with asurion have you granting consent for them to monitor you... mind looking that up?
Sure I can look that up.. I did dent that request
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Here are some screen shots
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It is in system app
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Screen
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Shot..
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Disregard
Well, I'm guilty of not looking on my own device.
VMS.apk is part of the distro. Kinda odd that the package name starts with com.asurian. rather than com.vzw. or com.verizon. though - maybe Verizon farmed out the app development.
And apparently the packages.xml format has changed since the last time I looked at it, but the app manager lists privileges anyway. VMS.apk has "READ_LOGS" privs along with network connectivity. It could easily rat you out with along with a specific device ID even without root privileges.
Very strange that it would ask for root - it already has quite an extensive set of privileges.
It is a root app
before you root your phone it has root access. Once you root your phone it the application has to ask permission. I accepted mine because I was curious. Nothing happened.

Root and know

One more question.
I've rooted and disabled know, but I keep getting this message. What's this about?
Also, I get FCs on a lot of apps either after backing out, or after using them a while. I'm completely stock aside from root and adaway
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Rippley05 said:
One more question.
I've rooted and disabled know, but I keep getting this message. What's this about?
Also, I get FCs on a lot of apps either after backing out, or after using them a while. I'm completely stock aside from root and adaway
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That would be Verizon Protect.. You can disable it, or download Titanium Backup and Remove it from your phone....
kprice8 said:
That would be Verizon Protect.. You can disable it, or download Titanium Backup and Remove it from your phone....
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I can not find an app named Verizon Protect. I see Verizon login
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Rippley05 said:
I can not find an app named Verizon Protect. I see Verizon login
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In Titanium Backup look for something that says Verizon and shows that Shield. Select and uninstall. Believe mine was called that, but I don't know why yours wouldn't be the same. You can also in the interim go into your apps on your phone and find that Icon and long hold, App Info, and Turn Off until you find the App to force Uninstall on TiBu

Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware?

Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware?
To me, that would be a killer feature!
No. You need to be rooted.
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Did you get a chance to play with one of these @ BB? I didn't see a lot of bloat or really any honestly. Samsung Retail mode though, no idea what carriers will force.
mchief298 said:
No. You need to be rooted.
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How easy is it to root on AT&T?
Stigga said:
How easy is it to root on AT&T?
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We will find out as it comes.
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mchief298 said:
No. You need to be rooted.
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Correct if you want to uninstall them, but you can "disable" bloat from the applications section in the settings to free up memory and to cut down on unnecessary processes without needing root.
I'm not sure how the US carriers will handle this issue, but all of my carrier-specific apps were uninstallable on my Korean Note 4. Samsung and Google services have been hit-or-miss. But then again, there was specific legislation passed here on this very subject last year.
Neo3D said:
Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware?
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What do you mean by "bloatware"? Like health app?
Is there a way to delete the AT&T apps without rooting ?
bat0nas said:
What do you mean by "bloatware"? Like health app?
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Like that stupid flip board app.
Sprint has been pretty good about being able to straight uninstall all those useless programs they load once you activate. The rest has to be root uninstalled to remove. I've been using Samsung devices for awhile and most have to be rooted to remove their extra features.
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Can't you just disable them? They'll still take up space but they won't run.
uninstalling some of the applications, especially from google or samsung could break other things seemingly unrelated, so much better way is to freeze them, but you need root. greenify has some option to stop apps from starting on boot up, not 100% sure, but I think it works even without root.
greenify is limited without root, but it is a start.
Does anyone know when the ATT note 3 was able to root?

Encrypted Notepad APP ??

Hi guys
Does anyone know of a good notepad/memo app that actually encrypts the notes (probably with 256 aes)?
There's loads o play store that say they encrypt things but all they really do is either store them with unknown extension , just hide them, or store them and the passwords in plain text.
also the odd few i found that was meant to encrypt everything wouldn't run on lollipop.
So any recommendations ?
Keeper
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trettet said:
Keeper
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Thanks for the reply ; )
Keeper looked really good until I got to all the cloud and autofill passwords features (there's probably even a "forgot my password" option).
Also I think it's law that US companies need to put a back door to security software.
Any others?
Secure Memo
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trettet said:
Secure Memo
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thanks for the reply
If it's the app I'm thinking of, there was a few reviews that said that it actually stores the password in clear text that can be viewed with a file browser or by plugging the phone into a computer.
Inked_ said:
thanks for the reply
If it's the app I'm thinking of, there was a few reviews that said that it actually stores the password in clear text that can be viewed with a file browser or by plugging the phone into a computer.
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I can guarantee you those reviews are false..
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trettet said:
I can guarantee you those reviews are false..
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ok ill look into it a bit more
Just to confirm, its this app your talking about:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.mm.android.securememo&hl=en_GB
Has anyone heard about safe notes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.isbell.ben.safenotes&hl=en_GB
I just tried secure memo and I REALLY don't like the way that all the notes are on one page.
They should have a title that you click on to view the note.
Any other apps out there ?
Anyone else ?
Inked_ said:
Anyone else ?
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Knox container's memo app, everything inside knox is 100% encrypted and fool proof as of this time.
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trettet said:
Knox container's memo app, everything inside knox is 100% encrypted and fool proof as of this time.
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Look up my knox in the play store and install it on your s5
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trettet said:
Knox container's memo app, everything inside knox is 100% encrypted and fool proof as of this time.
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Look up my knox in the play store and install it on your s5
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Thanks for that
You know, I've been spending so much time trying to find away to root my s5 without tripping knox and I didn't even think of it being helpful to me...lol
Having said that, do you think I would still be able to use a knox container after I've rooted the phone.
In the meantime, if anyone know of any other apps then please let me know ;
Inked_ said:
Thanks for that
You know, I've been spending so much time trying to find away to root my s5 without tripping knox and I didn't even think of it being helpful to me...lol
Having said that, do you think I would still be able to use a knox container after I've rooted the phone.
In the meantime, if anyone know of any other apps then please let me know ;
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Yes you can as long as you don't disable it and it hasn't been tripped..
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trettet said:
Yes you can as long as you don't disable it and it hasn't been tripped..
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Hmmm...
Maybe I should avoid using it then just in case I decide to root it and it trips Knox.
I really don't know why I'm finding it so hard to find a good encrypted notepad app
How secure do you think safe notes is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...notes&hl=en_GB
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Inked_ said:
Hmmm...
Maybe I should avoid using it then just in case I decide to root it and it trips Knox.
I really don't know why I'm finding it so hard to find a good encrypted notepad app
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It's so hard for you because first you are picky..second you are very skeptical..
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trettet said:
It's so hard for you because first you are picky..second you are very skeptical..
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Its not that im being picky or sceptical.
I just want a encrypted notepad that does what it says it does by actually encrypting the notes and not just hiding them.
And I don't want to have all the notes on one page as it just complicates things, its better to have all the notes separate so you can click the title of each one to view them.
I'm still looking for recommendations so if anyone has found a good app then please let me know
How about this one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inno.securenote
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MyKnox

Anyone found a version of myknox that works on the S8? I can do secure folders, and I see that knox is installed, but I can't create a myknox workspace... Boo...
Looks liek it cost money now? https://www.samsungknox.com/en/solutions/knox-workspace
That is an MDM (Mobile Device Management). It is for enterprises not for consumers.
I guess my use of the work workspace was confusing. Sorry. I definitely mean for a personal device, not corporate managed by MDM.
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Just found the Samsung compatibility list, no S8.
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DEATHBYVEGEMITE said:
I guess my use of the work workspace was confusing. Sorry. I definitely mean for a personal device, not corporate managed by MDM.
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What does it do that the Smartfolder doesn't do?
I downloaded My Knox apk file from sammobile. It worked.
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rubaiet said:
I downloaded My Knox apk file from sammobile. It worked.
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What does the feature do though?
For personal use? As I understand it it's basically military level security to separate business and personal apps. Also, you only get a 30 day free trial.
rubaiet said:
I downloaded My Knox apk file from sammobile. It worked.
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I might now love you.
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flashingrom84 said:
For personal use? As I understand it it's basically military level security to separate business and personal apps. Also, you only get a 30 day free trial.
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Isn't that what secure folder does though? You can install separate apps into that folder
YellowGTO said:
Isn't that what secure folder does though? You can install separate apps into that folder
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Correct. MyKnox was knox for regular users to enjoy the secure secondary workspace using the knox security platform. Secure folder is just the next version of myknox, incorporating all the suggestions they received to make it less complicated, a bit faster, and more seamless for regular users. Most users were not using the full launcher setup in myknox, but the folder mode. There is no difference in the encrypted volume afaik. If you like the older two phones style, you can just sideload myknox. Not sure if it still works, but on the S7 you could install both, and have a total of 3 environments.
Try this,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6WG7_c-hYT8SlVJVHpSSkNiNlE/view?usp=drivesdk
First install Knox.apk, next install KnoxManager.apk
Go in your home drawer and enjoy✌
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for on XDA this morning lol
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gsmumbo said:
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for on XDA this morning lol
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It works great. Both the apk from Sammy downloads and the gdrive link, I tested both. I love having the secret fodder for personal things, and the MyKnox for my work stuff. I like being able to have it in launcher mode.
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DEATHBYVEGEMITE said:
It works great. Both the apk from Sammy downloads and the gdrive link, I tested both. I love having the secret fodder for personal things, and the MyKnox for my work stuff. I like being able to have it in launcher mode.
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Like this?
https://s11.postimg.org/cefdkzwxv/Screenshot_20170423-034247.png
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xXConcasXx said:
Like this?
https://s11.postimg.org/cefdkzwxv/Screenshot_20170423-034247.png
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That's the one! I like the idea that my work could screw up their MDM, and send a hard wipe to my phone, and it only affects that little segmented blob, not my whole phone!
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Like this?
https://s11.postimg.org/cefdkzwxv/Screenshot_20170423-034247.png
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flashingrom84 said:
For personal use? As I understand it it's basically military level security to separate business and personal apps. Also, you only get a 30 day free trial.
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It's not a 30 trial.
The user version is free.
The enterprise version is what costs. Knox allows companies to even do things like DEP (Apple term) for all their devices to force device management on them. You can even push custom Samsung made firmware on KME enabled devices. Quite powerful stuff. Knox takes advantage of the hardware encryption on the device and encrypts all data at rest, in memory and in CPU. It's quite powerful.
Oh, and any MDM (mobile device management) system that pushes commands on the device, uses Knox APIs for most of the features. There are only a few basic Google APIs used for MDM. Rest are customized by Samsung - they are one of the very few, if not the only OEM that puts a TON of effort into adding APIs for MDMs to add new features.

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