This is my first phone with a capacitive screen, so perhaps it is a quirk of them, but I have noticed that if I am not holding the phone in such a way that I am touching the metal bezel, the screen does not recognise touches that are close to the edges of the screen. It seems that the screen requires a circuit to be made with other metal parts on the phone before recognising the touch.
For example, if I put the phone on my desk and touch the backspace key with a single finger, nothing happens. If I keep holding my finger on it, and touch the metal bezel, hey presto, the button clicks.
This reminds me of a watch a friend of mine had a long time ago, that had a capacitive "hair trigger" button that only worked for him (because it required a circuit to be made with the back face of the watch, meaning when he pressed the button it completed a circuit through his body)
Anyone else noticed this? It is slightly annoying because I have to hold the bezel when I want to use the phone..
Confirmed.
And you might very well be correct in the assumption about the circuit not closing in every part of the screen. I think it's the nature of any capacitive surface tbh. If you press in the middle of the screen then there is enough adjecent space to actually complete the circuit while on the edges there is simply not enough space around your fingertip to not close the circuit at all. That is why touching the bezel works.
But as I have been holding my little Hero in my hand while typing anything I simply didn't know this little odd thing. I have read about it though.
Yet another reason to hold your precious little Hero in your hand...
Wierd not like that on my samsung.. its all plastic tho
Mine is the same.. especially on the right hand side of the screen. If it's in a case it makes it really bad!!
Sounds like bad shileding and grounding to me
Didn't notice this until I put a screen protector on but now it's really bugging me.
On a related note (metal bezel related), I've noticed that in dim lighting the button backlight flickers. But if i touch the screen and bezel, it stops.
herman3101 said:
Didn't notice this until I put a screen protector on but now it's really bugging me.
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Same here. Could it be that the screen protector slightly touches the aluminium casing and thus grounding the screen (or creating a wrong potential)?
I noticed that when i touch (=ground) the outer aluminum frame with just one single finger then the touch screen works flawlessly.
(I'm using the offical HTC screen protector).
joemax said:
On a related note (metal bezel related), I've noticed that in dim lighting the button backlight flickers. But if i touch the screen and bezel, it stops.
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Hmm definatly bad grounding issue. Its either some pretty poor design or a defect.
i confrim, using hero without touch the metal edge result in less responsivity and difficult on multitouch operation
hope new firmware can solve this, too many errors using it like a normal keyboard on a table!
Typing often misses letters out because the screen is not so sensitive. The top layer of the screen seems saggy too and makes a 'sticking' sound from between the 2 layers when tapping with the stylus.
I may send it back.
Anyone else with this issue?
Peteret said:
Typing often misses letters out because the screen is not so sensitive. The top layer of the screen seems saggy too and makes a 'sticking' sound from between the 2 layers when tapping with the stylus.
I may send it back.
Anyone else with this issue?
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There has been an issue reported where an oil spot appears between the 2 layers and the fix was to pull apart with duct tape.
Doesn't sound good either way.
So I have a PhantomSkinz screen protector installed, and I've noticed that now when I use the phone in a dimly lit room and make a call, if I pull the phone away from my face, it stays blacked out. I have to turn the light on for it to wake back up.
I'm trying to figure out if this is because of the skin or if my proximity sensor is f-d up. Anyone else experience anything like this, with or without the screen protector?
Haven't tried peeling the protector off yet, but I probably will. I already did a hard reset, thinking that might solve it...
Edit: I pulled off the screen protector, and what do you know! It works perfectly again! Is this just my phone or is anyone else's doing this? If others are having this problem, I'll call PhantomSkinz and suggest that they make a cutout for where the proximity sensor is.
It may quite possibly be the screen protector, I've noticed a small cutout in the top right of screen protectors that are designed for the n1. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that is exactly where the proximity sensor is located.
The proximity and light sensors are under the upper-(Edit: left) corner of the glass, above the screen. Most protectors don't seem to take this into account, and cover both.
Negative... the proximity and light sensors are at the top LEFT of the screen. Long story short, I carefully removed the skin, trimmed off the left corner (a bit too much), and reinstalled it. (yes, this can be done even days later if you know what you're doing. )
Anyway, the proximity sensor works fine now. Just wondering if others are having this issue or is my phone wonky?
so (my dense brain is clear) the prox-sensor is on the "top left" of screen (and opposite side of the led) as i look at the screen. . thanks!
you can easily see the 2 holes for the light and proximity sensors in the top left corner if you shine a flashlight at it.
kozm0naut said:
The proximity and light sensors are under the upper-right corner of the glass, above the screen. Most protectors don't seem to take this into account, and cover both.
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both sensors are on the top left of the screen. the only thing in the top right is the charge LED indicator.
Can someone take a pic of exactly where the sensors are and possibly how they have "edited" their screen protector so it works better?
thanks
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both sensors are on the top left of the screen. the only thing in the top right is the charge LED indicator.
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appreciate both of your clarifying responses. (now if i can only be convinced that nothing will happen to my phone if i root it! currently tapping the heels of my feet and repeating rooting your phone will not result in defect karma)!
MontAlbert said:
Can someone take a pic of exactly where the sensors are and possibly how they have "edited" their screen protector so it works better?
thanks
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I don't have a camera (except the one on the phone)... but shine a flashlight at the screen's top left region. You'll see two round openings underneath where the sensors are located.
As for modifying a screen protector to work properly... well that requires cutting material off. Either trim off part of the corner, or if you're particularly handy with an exacto knife, try to figure out a way to only cut a couple of circles or a long oval that will leave the sensors exposed. I just hacked off a corner of my PhantomSkinz, to verify if this was the problem... I have a replacement on the way anyway since this one didn't install right.
If you really want to do it right, go with a Seidio, Martin Fields, or other similar clear screen protector, as they won't have this problem.
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So I have a PhantomSkinz screen protector installed, and I've noticed that now when I use the phone in a dimly lit room and make a call, if I pull the phone away from my face, it stays blacked out. I have to turn the light on for it to wake back up.
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Just tested in a dimly lit room with the Martin Fields protector which covers the emitter and detector holes. Sensor works as it should.
vsc said:
Just tested in a dimly lit room with the Martin Fields protector which covers the emitter and detector holes. Sensor works as it should.
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Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think the Martin Fields and Seidio (and any other "clear" protectors) are the only ones that will work properly without modification.
Btw, would you mind taking some pictures of your screen with the MF protector? Specifically, I'm interested in how it fits. You can post it in the Martin Fields thread in the Accessories subforum.
with my zagg shield the prox works perfect.
lightforce said:
with my zagg shield the prox works perfect.
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Not that I don't believe you, but you tried it in a dimly lit room, right? With the PhantomSkinz, it worked fine when it was brightly lit, or outdoors... just not inside when I have the lights down.
yep just tried it.
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yep just tried it.
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Cool... thanks man. So far it's just the PhantomSkinz and Skinomi that has been confirmed throw off the proximity sensor.
I've got the Phantom Skinz screen protector and am noticing no problems with proximity on the Nexus One. I did set the skin to be flush with the bottom of the screen rather than the top (the skin does appear to be about 1.5mm short), could this be the reason I'm not experiencing the proximity issue, even in a low light room?
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I've got the Phantom Skinz screen protector and am noticing no problems with proximity on the Nexus One. I did set the skin to be flush with the bottom of the screen rather than the top (the skin does appear to be about 1.5mm short), could this be the reason I'm not experiencing the proximity issue, even in a low light room?
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It definitely could be... I had mine flush with the top prior to removing it. Either way, I think these screen protectors should be cut to cover the entire screen. I messaged PhantomSkinz Guru to suggest that he/she inquire about fixing the size issue and maybe getting a small cutout to the proximity/ambient light sensor area. I imagine a nice elongated oval, like those on phones where the speaker is on the screen, would work well.
Is this with full body or just screen protector?
Just the screen protector on mine.
Just wondering if anyone else has this problem....i kinda fixed it by tightening the screws in the back of the phone...when the screen is up and i touched the bottom left of the screen and gave a little pressure it would wiggle a little.....so anyone have this problem also??
Yeah as I use it more and more it seems to move and not be as tight. Not a huge problem yet, but if it continues to get worse then I may bring it in.
i wonder if anyone else seems to see what i am. with the screen off angle the screen to reflect white light. you get a kind of rainbow pattern. this afaik is fairly normal. but i notice on the top edge of the screen the rainbowing seems to compress. im assuming this is because the mesh within the screen is crimped within a frame. what im noticing on mine is on the top left hand corner theres a tiny oval blob of the rainbowing as if the layers are seperating underneath the glass
is anyone else seeing it in the same spot or just me
bumpiiddy?
anyone else