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[Q] Rooting Kindle Fire outside USA

Hi guys,
This issue has undoubtedly been asked before but can anyone confirm a 100% successful rooting of the kindle fire from outside the states (and how did u do it/guide please)?
Preliminary searching on google for rooting the fire seems to suggest its plagued with difficulty issues/bricking etc if yer outside US Soil. I won my kindle fire and so far my wife has been using it simply as an ereader, but we can't access any of the services or download and install a single app (due to not having a credit card with a USA Address). I'm guessing this is why non usa ppl are having issues, is their an app we need to install on the device to successfully root it? It's a pretty useless tablet at the moment for us, but when I do get to steal it away from my wife (for half an hour) i want to hand it back rooted, with android market (google play?) so we can turn this thing into a more useful device.
I absolutely cannot hand it back to her bricked lol.
So please, if yer from the states this questions is unlikely for you as its doubtful u have encountered the issues us international users have.
Like i said above I can't really find in google any 'international' root guide, the videos/instructions are clearly from a 'within USA' procedure and then when you look at the comments plenty of people are getting stuck at 'part x' with no sign of help or assistance.
FYI i reside in Australia.

if you root it that has nothing to do with your location
for rooting refer to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23589931#post23589931
btw. im not in the us also

cheers for that, will look into it. Just wanted to make sure. How come typing in google such things as 'kindle fire root international" or "worldwide" etc doesn't show this thread :S

would think because rooting has noting to do with international or worldwide
btw. every information i ever needed is here at xda - most articles out there refer to here - if there are some interesting articles outside they are usually linked here also - and the search function of xda is great !

Just follow the instruction at the following thread to root KF any where:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20668030
After rooting, you can install Google apps and download applications from any where.
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thanx guys xD
I'll let u know how i go.

My first hurdle is installing usb adb driver, i'm not on win 7, im on xp pro 32bit, any suggestions?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22342376&postcount=6

ALL Kindle Fires has exactly same ROM, so your region not influenced anyway

My good friend roh rooted it for me this afternoon. xD

[PSA] Don't buy one as a "cheap tablet" and expect a bootloader unlock

All Amazon devices dating back to the Kindle Fire HD 7/8.9" (2012) have a "locked bootloader", meaning that it may not ever be possible to root, get a custom recovery, or install CyanogenMod (Or any custom ROM for that matter).
This is not intended to bash Amazon (They should make "Developer friendly" tablets, though), I just wanted to let everyone know before it gets released better than after.

r3pwn said:
All Amazon devices dating back to the Kindle Fire HD 7/8.9" (2012) have a "locked bootloader", meaning that it may not ever be possible to root, get a custom recovery, or install CyanogenMod (Or any custom ROM for that matter).
This is not intended to bash Amazon (They should make "Developer friendly" tablets, though), I just wanted to let everyone know before it gets released better than after.
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I don't have big idea about those tablet's searched them yesterday but i found THIS. isn't it the previous amazon kindle forum page? And they managed to unlock the bootloader so you can flash a custom ROM. And propably this will come for the "newest generation" Amazon tablets too.

Geo_Tech said:
I don't have big idea about those tablet's searched them yesterday but i found THIS. isn't it the previous amazon kindle forum page?
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One generation before the last set of Kindles. The last generation of Kindles (the HDXs) have yet to get any ROMs of any kind, except for via SafeStrap.

r3pwn said:
One generation before the last set of Kindles. The last generation of Kindles (the HDXs) have yet to get any ROMs of any kind, except for via SafeStrap.
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Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.

Geo_Tech said:
Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.
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That's why I said "except via SafeStrap". SafeStrap allows for modified stock ROMs on bootloader-locked devices.

Geo_Tech said:
Is this not a ROM for the last generation of HDXs ? Maybe we are talking about the same, don't know just saying.
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Safestrap has "roms" but they basically run the stock kernel and add stuff around that. This severely limits what a rom can do.
The last generation of Amazon Kindles (the HDX series) were locked much tighter than the second generation (the original HD versions) which are locked tighter than the original Fire. Amazon has been working hard to prevent us from messing with their "content delivery" system. I love the price of these things, and the hardware for the price looks pretty good, but I will not be getting one since I honestly do not think that the community will pry them open for open development usage.

Ok, now i have a clear view of whats going on.

If we can just get a root method would be a great start.
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It seems a fastball cable does not bring up fastball mode. Is this just me? My cable my be screwed up since I made it a year back.
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Unlock bootloader for Fire HD 8 6th Gen

I just got couple Fire HD 8 6th Gen tablets for my kids, and thought I'd flash them right away with a custom ROM. I was quite disappointed with the absence of development for this tablet.
Anyway, as far as I understood from reading the forum (and I just started, sorry if I missed something), the first problem is the factory locked bootloader. And it sounded from a post I read like it's something that cannot be solved: http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/help/rooted-boot-img-t3508316 (bootloader locked discussion starts at the bottom of the 1st page).
Well, I am definitely not a pro in mobile development (I work on server side software for living), so I beg your pardon if I'm wrong. But unlocking a locked bootloader is not something unheard of.
So, I was wondering, if it could be done for other device, then probably it can be done for this one too. And the fact that it has not been done yet could mean for example, that this device is somehow different. Or, it could mean that there was no one yet with enough expertise AND the device at hand to do it.
So if the latter is true, and it's just lack of attention from good developers. Then I guess it could be arranged to donate a device to a reputable XDA dev. A dev that would be interested in having a challenge. And a free device.
I would definitely pitch in, and if you would too, please tell. And if you know an XDA dev who has expertise to do it, please tell too, and give an example of their work.
All the above is open for discussion of course, constructive suggestions would be much appreciated.

The 7" is locked but got a lot of love and is now rootable. If the guys at Kingroot that interest, we might see something but otherwise not. Until rooted, not much point porting a ROM.

So I suppose the proposition is to send a device to KingRoot guys?

...in China.....

I was wondering how the issue of locked encrypted bootloader was solved for other Fire devices. Here's how it's been done for Fire HDX 8.9: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...bootloader-unlock-procedure-software-t3030281 . I suppose the bug used in this method has been fixed already, this is just a demonstration that it can be done.

That was cracked using a crypto bug. Basically exploiting a weakness in the RSA encryption of the bootloader's signature. It's incredibly rare for encryption to get totally broken like this, and easily patched with system updates. Kinda got lucky on that one. Best thing to hope for first is root, then try to find a way around the bootloader's protection. These keep getting exponentially harder, and there's a lot more money on developing protections than breaking them.

I received one as a gift. I will probably never use it unless its opened up.... i mean im appreciative that someone gifted me it. But I become really upset by the fact that samsung and amazon... all the big players really lock up their bootloader and force me onto some ecosystem when i know the tablet or device could work just so much better. Anyways, if there is anything i can contribute let me know...

Download the Kingroot App then run it. After running it once or twice it will ask you to send a device request. Root may eventually be achieved for the 6th Gen but that may be as far as it gets. Very unlikely that the bootloader will be unlocked. Amazon actively puts a lot of effort into keeping them locked. Its been a while since any newer version of these Fire bootloaders have been unlocked. The HD 8 5th Gen is about 2 years old and the only thing thats been achieved was root and that was done by Kingroot..... But hey nothings impossible....

Wipe Fire OS and install Android from scratch?

I've never had an Android device, so I'm probably wording it completely wrong. But I AM in technology, so I can get around and understand pretty quick.
I just bought my son a Fire HD 10 (2017 version) for his birthday. I set it all up for him and put one of his favorite games on it - Vainglory. We noticed that any time there is a decent fight on the screen, it will lag out for 2-3 seconds, and then catch back up real quick. From their website, the Fire HD 10 exceeds all the requirements to run the game smoothly, so I'm wondering if it's all the Amazon bloatware that is causing the lag. First, do you think if I replaced the Fire OS with just stock Android, would it increase performance? Do you think I'll still have these lag issues even if I put stock Android on it? Second, if you think it will help, how do I wipe the Fire OS and install stock Android?

Nobody has any suggestions?

we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443

convit161 said:
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.

jrossh21 said:
Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Hello jrossh21 --- I read your original post twice. I realized why nobody responded with the exact solution. Time has passed and you've probably bought your son the perfect tablet for gaming. BUT, I wonder if your wife or son can spot the reason nobody has responded. Ask wife and kid(s) and make sure they read your original post ..... maybe they will have to read your original post two or more times, but I know they just might notice the reason. Anyway, do your best and make sure they read this posting from me so they know this exercise is real. Take a few days and reply to let me know if they get it or not.....we are trying to find out if anyone in your family can spot the reason nobody has responded with the exact solution. Hint: it has to do with your original post...trust me on that.

@KingRoseNot Do you have friends in real life? Read your post and maybe you will understand why I ask. Please tell me what it's like to live a lonely existence without any human contact. I really want to know. You must be a master at alienating yourself from other people. Just read your post and you will see what I mean. No, read it slowly. Maybe then you might be able to possible grasp the subtle intricacies of my question. Probably not, but maybe.

convit161 said:
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Can you unlock and root your Fire HD 10 using the exploit package amonet-suez
This link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639

Same, I have a fire tablet 5th gen with fire os 5.6.8.0 and trying to root without pc but no luck in finding tutorials, please help me to downgrade fire os 5.6.8.0 to 5.3.0

How does Amazon load Fire OS onto new/refurbished tablets?

Every so often customers will return Fire tablets that are under warranty because they've stopped working. It could be a battery problem, or it could be an error taking an update that left the tablet unable to boot. When that happens, one would presume that Amazon would try to recoup their investment by cosmetically spiffing up the tablet and wiping and reloading Fire OS to make it ready for resale.
Whether or not that's the case, when a tablet comes off the assembly line there has to be some way Amazon loads the OS before they box it up for sale. My question is, in each case, how do they do it?
At the factory, I suspect the OS might be loaded into memory before final assembly of the motherboard onto the tablet body. In fact it might even happen before the memory is soldered onto the board. When refurbishing though, it seems like any feasible way to reload the tablet's OS would have to go through a USB cable -- which wouldn't be the case when you're prepping hundreds of thousands of tablets a month or more for sale.
That's assuming unbricking is possible, of course. They might just collect all those dead tablets and convert them into hide-a-beds for Amazon's warehouse workers for all I know.
It just seems like there ought to be a way to revive a hard bricked, as in incomplete write to the boot loader, tablet. And in case there's any doubt, yes, that's exactly what I've done with one of mine. I suspect that I'm going to have to play Baron von Frankenstein and transplant the working motherboard from a Fire HD 8 with a cracked screen into the body of a Fire with an intact screen, but that went south during a boot ROM update and is now an attractive paperweight. But my experience has me curious whether Amazon can reverse such disasters, and if so, how they do it. Whether such methods are available to us mere mortals is of course a different matter entirely.

Which generation of HD8 is it? Can it not be unbricked using the bootrom method, shorting the appropriate connection on the motherboard?

MontysEvilTwin said:
Which generation of HD8 is it? Can it not be unbricked using the bootrom method, shorting the appropriate connection on the motherboard?
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Maybe. It's a Fire HD 8 2017 (karnak) and I've successfully rooted one or two of these tablets after opening them up, so I can give that a go. As long as I don't have to be able to power up the tablet, everything should be fine.

NerdFire said:
Maybe. It's a Fire HD 8 2017 (karnak) and I've successfully rooted one or two of these tablets after opening them up, so I can give that a go. As long as I don't have to be able to power up the tablet, everything should be fine.
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The 2018 model is Karnak, not 2017.

semada said:
The 2018 model is Karnak, not 2017.
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You are of course correct. These tablets are karnak/2018 models.

Thank you for the reminder @MontysEvilTwin -- I was able to unbrick the tablet and get it back to working. It didn't repair the cracked screen though.
I really am still interested in the process Amazon uses to load tablets at scale. I'm sure it's nothing that's available to us mere mortals; I'm just curious in a "how stuff works" sort of way.