I've owned a moto x for 1 week now. When I got it, I immediately ignored the kit Kat update, tried using jelly bean for 2 days, I had good to above average battery life.
3rd day, I updated it to kit Kat, my battery life took a big hit!!
Yesterday I received a nexus 5 as a gift, I love it.
I performed an experiment with both phones, I wiped both in recovery (stock, both phones are completely stock) I wiped cache. I then took my SIM out of the moto x. Turned on, only Wi-Fi on both. Then installed the exact same apps on both phones.
Whole time I was doing this I was charging both of them.
One 100% hit both of them I unplugged then at same time and turned screen off, let them sit.
After 6 hrs of sitting, the nexus 5 was at 98% the moto x was at 89%!! That's LOCATION turned off on both. And on the motto x the active screen and hands free control.
I think the nexus is built for kit Kat, most phones have quad core nowadays, I'm thinking that kit Kat just runs better.
The battery life difference is a shocker to me, and fit that reason alone, I'm using the nexus 5 and selling my moto x.
If I could downgrade the moto x, I would for sure, but I need battery life.
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I've just redone my test with the same results, I will post pics later.
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markdexter said:
I've owned a moto x for 1 week now. When I got it, I immediately ignored the kit Kat update, tried using jelly bean for 2 days, I had good to above average battery life.
3rd day, I updated it to kit Kat, my battery life took a big hit!!
Yesterday I received a nexus 5 as a gift, I love it.
I performed an experiment with both phones, I wiped both in recovery (stock, both phones are completely stock) I wiped cache. I then took my SIM out of the moto x. Turned on, only Wi-Fi on both. Then installed the exact same apps on both phones.
Whole time I was doing this I was charging both of them.
One 100% hit both of them I unplugged then at same time and turned screen off, let them sit.
After 6 hrs of sitting, the nexus 5 was at 98% the moto x was at 89%!! That's LOCATION turned off on both. And on the motto x the active screen and hands free control.
I think the nexus is built for kit Kat, most phones have quad core nowadays, I'm thinking that kit Kat just runs better.
The battery life difference is a shocker to me, and fit that reason alone, I'm using the nexus 5 and selling my moto x.
If I could downgrade the moto x, I would for sure, but I need battery life.
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I've just redone my test with the same results, I will post pics later.
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You must have a bad moto x. I've let mine sit overnight multiple times and after about 8 hours my battery is still 100%. Three email accounts synced, Wi-Fi, location on.
Either that or you have a really good moto x!!! I find it hard to believe after 8 hrs still at 100%!!
I understand this is a moto x thread and people will defend their phones, I think there is a lot of people experiencing this after updating to kit Kat.
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markdexter said:
I've owned a moto x for 1 week now. When I got it, I immediately ignored the kit Kat update, tried using jelly bean for 2 days, I had good to above average battery life.
3rd day, I updated it to kit Kat, my battery life took a big hit!!
Yesterday I received a nexus 5 as a gift, I love it.
I performed an experiment with both phones, I wiped both in recovery (stock, both phones are completely stock) I wiped cache. I then took my SIM out of the moto x. Turned on, only Wi-Fi on both. Then installed the exact same apps on both phones.
Whole time I was doing this I was charging both of them.
One 100% hit both of them I unplugged then at same time and turned screen off, let them sit.
After 6 hrs of sitting, the nexus 5 was at 98% the moto x was at 89%!! That's LOCATION turned off on both. And on the motto x the active screen and hands free control.
I think the nexus is built for kit Kat, most phones have quad core nowadays, I'm thinking that kit Kat just runs better.
The battery life difference is a shocker to me, and fit that reason alone, I'm using the nexus 5 and selling my moto x.
If I could downgrade the moto x, I would for sure, but I need battery life.
EDIT...
I've just redone my test with the same results, I will post pics later.
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Find out, in about phone, if dev option is on. Tap many times on build # to enable. Then be sure both phones are set to ART runtime!! You will need lots of time & battery.I think the x will do much better then.
No, I think you should get that checked out. I've yet to have mine die on me in less than a day with normal use. Usually is only at 40-50% when I go to bed, and uses almost no battery while idling overnight, I'm guessing due to the architecture. I'm not saying the moto is better than the nexus, just a shame to hear you're having a bad experience with yours. Good luck with it!
Screen shots from gsam would help see what's happening.
But, I had phenomenal battery life on my x.....til my wife got it. Lol avid facebook user....she lost a good chunk of battery life from it alone. Cause its still setup exactly how I had it....but she's always on facebook (pics constantly loading) and she uses the "phone" way more...another drain.
However.....standby time for me never got much lower that 1 percent per hour. My n5....0.4 per hour. I assume active and touchless must keep the x standby drop higher, or radio maybe? Something anyway. I stopped worrying, since overall the x got great battery life. ?
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I took the KitKat update the day I got my phone on 3/7/2014 and the battery life is better than my old Nexus. I put the phone on charge at 1600 take it off around 2000 when I wake up at 600 and the phone is at 97%. By the time I get home from work at 1500 it's down to 60%. It'll go 24 hours on one charge easy but I charge it every 12, or so. Some days I'm on it all the time.
Then again, I do have an unlocked boot loader, I'm rooted and I've got Greenify hibernating most of the apps I don't constantly use.
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I've owned a moto x for 1 week now. When I got it, I immediately ignored the kit Kat update, tried using jelly bean for 2 days, I had good to above average battery life.
3rd day, I updated it to kit Kat, my battery life took a big hit!!
Yesterday I received a nexus 5 as a gift, I love it.
I performed an experiment with both phones, I wiped both in recovery (stock, both phones are completely stock) I wiped cache. I then took my SIM out of the moto x. Turned on, only Wi-Fi on both. Then installed the exact same apps on both phones.
Whole time I was doing this I was charging both of them.
One 100% hit both of them I unplugged then at same time and turned screen off, let them sit.
After 6 hrs of sitting, the nexus 5 was at 98% the moto x was at 89%!! That's LOCATION turned off on both. And on the motto x the active screen and hands free control.
I think the nexus is built for kit Kat, most phones have quad core nowadays, I'm thinking that kit Kat just runs better.
The battery life difference is a shocker to me, and fit that reason alone, I'm using the nexus 5 and selling my moto x.
If I could downgrade the moto x, I would for sure, but I need battery life.
EDIT...
I've just redone my test with the same results, I will post pics later.
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With everything on, GPS,location, ect and on WiFi all Verizon bloat removed. At three months on kitkat I drop 3-4% average at ten hours off charge. Once I got 1% drop over 8 hours and another 2% also at 8 hours. So not knowing if your nexus is new but the more the X settle in the better it gets.
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With everything on, GPS,location, ect and on WiFi all Verizon bloat removed. At three months on kitkat I drop 3-4% average at ten hours off charge. Once I got 1% drop over 8 hours and another 2% also at 8 hours. So not knowing if your nexus is new but the more the X settle in the better it gets.
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Maybe so, I can't be waiting a couple of months for it to settle in.
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Either that or you have a really good moto x!!! I find it hard to believe after 8 hrs still at 100%!!
I understand this is a moto x thread and people will defend their phones, I think there is a lot of people experiencing this after updating to kit Kat.
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I had another Moto X that didn't keep the chrge well. It would drop about 5% in hour after unplugging. So it happens. I didn't take into account about your stock. I have all the verizon crap removed and some unwanted moto apps. Very debloated on my set up.
I have found the solution for power management wakelocks on Kitkat. Many of you might be seeing that Wakelock detector shows phone is staying awake for 40-50% of the times since kitkat update.
Most of these wakelocks are thanks to Power manager service and pm8921_chg wakelocks. After removing the phone from charger these wakelocks causes phone to stay awake when it shouldnt.
I think I have found a solution.
When your battery is 100% switch off the phone. Remove the charger. Let it go to blank screen and then power it back on. Now when phone boots without charger connected to it, use it normall and you will see the wakelocks are no longer keeping phone on for 40-50% of the time. It is back to normal 10-11% or lower depending on use and phone gives great battery life.
I am yet to do lot of testing or reading on this, but this is just an observation. Worth giving it a try.
I get high calenderbackupstorage wake up triggers. Almost 400 to 500
I had this problem in my other phone too.
I have turned off sync , but still the problem persists.
Freezing the app also does not help
DaRkRhiNe said:
I get high calenderbackupstorage wake up triggers. Almost 400 to 500
I had this problem in my other phone too.
I have turned off sync , but still the problem persists.
Freezing the app also does not help
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If you are having the same issues on 2 phones, then it must be one of the apps that you have on your phone. Use AppOps to see which apps are using calender and turn off them if not needed.
Funkym0nkey said:
I have found the solution for power management wakelocks on Kitkat. Many of you might be seeing that Wakelock detector shows phone is staying awake for 40-50% of the times since kitkat update.
Most of these wakelocks are thanks to Power manager service and pm8921_chg wakelocks. After removing the phone from charger these wakelocks causes phone to stay awake when it shouldnt.
I think I have found a solution.
When your battery is 100% switch off the phone. Remove the charger. Let it go to blank screen and then power it back on. Now when phone boots without charger connected to it, use it normall and you will see the wakelocks are no longer keeping phone on for 40-50% of the time. It is back to normal 10-11% or lower depending on use and phone gives great battery life.
I am yet to do lot of testing or reading on this, but this is just an observation. Worth giving it a try.
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This works!! Thanks buddy, it reminds me of an issue I had back in the froyo days!! Good find
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kj2112 said:
...and she uses the "phone" way more...
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What is this "phone" thing you speak of? Some kind of special app or some hidden feature built into the X? I'm not familiar with this concept.
I had my first Moto x run 4.2.2 and battery life sucked. upgraded to Kit Kit and everything was awesome like everyone mentioned.
My 2nd Moto X and it had great battery on both 4.2.2 and 4.4. I've had 3 and all had weird issues. I do think Moto X has some quality control issues. I've closely examined the phones and there were little inconsistencies between the 3. Going to a Tmobile store even confirmed they are using really old outdated SIM cards.
All 3 of mine had Loss of signal bug and MMS bug. no matter what I did.
Some people have no issues at all don't know what to make of it.
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Ive been using an iphone 5 and Optimus G Pro for the past 8 months waiting for the new androids to come out this fall and I am quite disappointed. I have the ATT version, i have wifi, gps, bluetooth all off, never had to do that on the iphone. I close out all the apps and clear the ram, and I went through 30% overnight while I was sleeping. My Optimus G Pro was far better on battery and that seems kinda backwards?
Is there like a break in period or something, what is the deal here
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Ive been using an iphone 5 and Optimus G Pro for the past 8 months waiting for the new androids to come out this fall and I am quite disappointed. I have the ATT version, i have wifi, gps, bluetooth all off, never had to do that on the iphone. I close out all the apps and clear the ram, and I went through 30% overnight while I was sleeping. My Optimus G Pro was far better on battery and that seems kinda backwards?
Is there like a break in period or something, what is the deal here
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You have a wakelock my friend, use an app like better battery stats or gsam battery monitor, wakelock detector etc.
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I have 3 hrs screen on time and barely went through 30%
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so how do i fix this wakelock thing
rodimus_prime said:
so how do i fix this wakelock thing
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You have to figure out what application is causing the "wake lock"
What a wake lock is; Its something running in the background that is not letting the phone "sleep" or otherwise go idle. Meaning your phone is running full speed ahead while you are sleeping.
It could be all sorts of things causing a wake-lock. I had one guy on my ROM have a wakelock because his internet connection was so poor the phone just kept searching and he was draining about what you are draining everynight.
Another thing I would look at are your location settings, not just GPS. The new Google settings Icon has a bunch of crap that it syncs and tracks you via all sorts of stuff. Go in there and make sure nothing is turned on you dont need...
And lastly, like the other guy said, check for a battery stat app. They can show you what app is not sleeping or why your phone is not sleeping like it should.
Facebook is a notorious offender. With refresh off I would get over 140 wakelocks in a 7 hour period.
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truckroot said:
Facebook is a notorious offender. With refresh off I would get over 140 wakelocks in a 7 hour period.
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I was experiencing terrible battery as well. I disabled the haptic feedback with the keyboard and also google now. My battery life seems to be pretty well now. Also disabled leaving wifi on while sleep and off charger.
bova80 said:
I was experiencing terrible battery as well. I disabled the haptic feedback with the keyboard and also google now. My battery life seems to be pretty well now. Also disabled leaving wifi on while sleep and off charger.
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Was your haptic feedback really strong on the keyboard?
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heffzilla said:
Was your haptic feedback really strong on the keyboard?
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yeah, I could turn it down for for other things, but couldn't figure out how to turn it down for the keyboard.
Same here
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The battery is awesome on mine, way better than the S4 and Note 2. I'm at 100% still and it's been off the charger for 2.5 hours, where my S4 is at 91%.
geoff5093 said:
The battery is awesome on mine, way better than the S4 and Note 2. I'm at 100% still and it's been off the charger for 2.5 hours, where my S4 is at 91%.
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mine is way better now, after being off the charger for 3 hours I'm at 94% where as yesterday I was probably at like 70% at this point.
Don't forget most android handsets need a 72 hour battery calibration window before you will see a more even battery level. After 72 hours your phone should have a good batch of data to help gauge its power levels.
Battery is fantastic on this phone. Coming from an X and Note 2.
I'm still on my 2nd full charge but notice once the phone huta around 60% the percentage drop starts to slow down, I figure this is just calibration getting dialed in and so far I'm very happy with battery life.
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Hi there, I am not sure if this is the reason but I used to have Fast dormancy toggle apk on my old lgog to prevent the phone from complete discharge even though I was not actively using the devicd. I installed the fd toggle here,too and I can honestly say that if I am charged 100 % at about midnight, I have the same 100 at about 6:30 when I get up. Of course, no data,no sync,no wifi and no active use of any kind during that time. I do not know if the app is the key but the result is pretty impressive. I have the korean version F320K.
I was using the Snapdragon Battery app on my DNA. Never sure if it did anything. Is it worth using on the G2 as well? Love the phone! Less gimmicky than the S4 and more interesting than the Maxx.
scrosler said:
You have to figure out what application is causing the "wake lock"
What a wake lock is; Its something running in the background that is not letting the phone "sleep" or otherwise go idle. Meaning your phone is running full speed ahead while you are sleeping.
It could be all sorts of things causing a wake-lock. I had one guy on my ROM have a wakelock because his internet connection was so poor the phone just kept searching and he was draining about what you are draining everynight.
Another thing I would look at are your location settings, not just GPS. The new Google settings Icon has a bunch of crap that it syncs and tracks you via all sorts of stuff. Go in there and make sure nothing is turned on you dont need...
And lastly, like the other guy said, check for a battery stat app. They can show you what app is not sleeping or why your phone is not sleeping like it should.
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Scross tell me you got a G2 lol
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This is dumb. My G2 was at 100% battery for 3 hours! You either have a lemon or your cell reception is poor where you are. The battery life is not horrible.
Yeah, I'm with the rest. I'm coming from a MAXX HD (insane battery) and the battery optimization on the G2 is far superior (albeit smaller battery).
Bought the phone over 24 hours ago and I am still on the charge from the box. Its running great for me with LTE on.
My biggest gripe with kitkat is that battery life doesn't feel close to what I was getting with 4.2. Sorry I don't have any screens saved, but generally dead after 14-16 hours with 2 hours screen on time.
Running stock 4.4 with ART
How is your battery life on kitkat? Any tips to improve battery life?
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Same complaint here. Went from 5 hours of screen on time to just over 3. Android OS is the biggest draw. I've heard it might be from exchange email which I need for work but I'm not sure.
Moto X KK poor battery life
bsinc1962 said:
Same complaint here. Went from 5 hours of screen on time to just over 3. Android OS is the biggest draw. I've heard it might be from exchange email which I need for work but I'm not sure.
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I can't complain. 5 hours on screen for me. Ram management is much better than 4.2.2 as well. Why not start fresh with RSD?
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Do you use exchange email?
I have noticed a sizable drain as well, I use to be able to get 2+ hours before I hit 50% and make it a whole day without a problem, today I was at 1:20 at 50% and I didn't change the usage of my phone.
I am still on Dalvik and no Exchange Email
bsinc1962 said:
Same complaint here. Went from 5 hours of screen on time to just over 3. Android OS is the biggest draw. I've heard it might be from exchange email which I need for work but I'm not sure.
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I've had the aosp email app frozen since day 1.
As to the other post, RSD?
Edit: to be clear I don't use exchange
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From what I can tell ART definitely affects battery
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tcollum said:
From what I can tell ART definitely affects battery
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I originally heard it would be a boost in battery. Have you extensively tried both? Can you compare them?
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Here we go again.. I have had (and later only followed) these discussions from my early Donuts days; after EVERY system update always complaints about battery drain - vanishing the cries (and the issues) in couple of days.. Bet (and discussed) this being some update issue; resetting battery charge points, connecting servers, fine-tuning system, apps; your guess is as good as mine!
But; this thread will vanish in couple of weeks - says me.
bmszabo said:
Here we go again.. I have had (and later only followed) these discussions from my early Donuts days; after EVERY system update always complaints about battery drain - vanishing the cries (and the issues) in couple of days.. Bet (and discussed) this being some update issue; resetting battery charge points, connecting servers, fine-tuning system, apps; your guess is as good as mine!
But; this thread will vanish in couple of weeks - says me.
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Yup. Battery life on Moto X 4.4 is at least 50% better than 4.2.2 Moto X. My first full charge on ART was 34hs 2.5hrs SOT.
Here is my second full charge rundown:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47794678&postcount=138
3rd full charge is 8hrs 85% left (was watching youtube videos on LTE through lunch). 0 complaints. :good:
Edit: I should mention that mine is a Dev Edition and I have frozen a TON of bloat.
Can anyone tell me what modality service is?
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Idk my battery sucked before a factory data reset. I had to to try to fix lag and app install issues. Since ive been pretty good. 8 hours off charger at 54% with 1hr 45min screen time.
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bmszabo said:
Here we go again.. I have had (and later only followed) these discussions from my early Donuts days; after EVERY system update always complaints about battery drain - vanishing the cries (and the issues) in couple of days.. Bet (and discussed) this being some update issue; resetting battery charge points, connecting servers, fine-tuning system, apps; your guess is as good as mine!
But; this thread will vanish in couple of weeks - says me.
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I say bull. I've been on 4.4 for 5 days now and I've consistently had worse battery life. My phone is currently at 50% after 6 hours
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mikel.canovas said:
I say bull. I've been on 4.4 for 5 days now and I've consistently had worse battery life. My phone is currently at 50% after 6 hours
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What are your usage statistics?
I'm having great battery life... Though, I am rooted and have some crap frozen, but the overall difference between stock 4.4 and rooted 4.4 is pretty minimal. Currently at 61% battery, 7.5hrs off charger, 2.5hr screen time. BT on 100% Wi-Fi on 50% GPS on 100%.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
I just did a full factory reset so I'm going to give it a couple of days to see if that helps.
For the people in this thread that say they are not having an issue.. what is typical for your Android OS service usage percent? My screen was my top drain before the update, but Android OS is now.
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For the people in this thread that say they are not having an issue.. what is typical for your Android OS service usage percent? My screen was my top drain before the update, but Android OS is now.
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Go to location settings and at the top you'll see mode, I bet everyone is set on high accuracy, reset mine to battery saving and Android OS dropped within hours
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Go to location settings and at the top you'll see mode, I bet everyone is set on high accuracy, reset mine to battery saving and Android OS dropped within hours
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Good point. I usually have all location reporting off. I'm sitting at 11.5hrs, 1hr SOT and 76% battery left. I won't have to charge it till tomorrow night.
flashallthetime said:
Go to location settings and at the top you'll see mode, I bet everyone is set on high accuracy, reset mine to battery saving and Android OS dropped within hours
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Yes, you're right on my setting. I've changed it to battery saving. I'll see how it goes tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion.
I only had mine a week or so before the upgrade, but I would say it's definitely taken a hit. Now, screen is not always the biggest power consumer like it used to be. Android OS and Android System are taking a much bigger portion of the power than they used to. I always reboot the phone if something other than screen is monopolizing the battery.
Also, I heard there's a Qualcomm-specific bug related to powering the cameras, and that it's been a particular issue with the latest Skype builds.
I worry that they'll fix these issues quickly in the Android project but it'll take months for me to see the fix from Verizon, by which point my battery will have been subjected a lot of unnecessary heat and wear.
Tonnes of android os talk in this thread. Or try Googling it.
Basically, the more services you have on and apps syncing, the higher it gets. For experimentation .....disable sync, location, Google now and Amy other service you can find, and usually android os goes way down. Decide what's important to you and enable things again....but do like one change a day. And when your android os skyrockets again....you'll know the last thing you enabled is the main culprit.
Anyway.....a pile of battery tips in here, and android os talk. Take some time and read through some. Maybe start at last page and go back as far as you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
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Yes that battery life thread is very good. No change noticed here after the upgrade from 4.4
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
cpurick said:
Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Trust me, you can fix it now....if you try. Just gotta troubleshoot.
Many have no such bugs....or they've disabled whatever has wrecked their battery.
Just gotta put in some time and your issues can be fixed.
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Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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I seem to be one of the few that's matching my Moto x's battery life on my N5.
Not sure why some have such bad battery life on either phone sometimes, I can only assume its app related and very hard to pin down.
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I have noticed no appreciable change in battery life on any of the builds that the phone has had since I got it in December. Some days it is excellent, the next day, the wind blows the other direction (literally and figuratively) and the battery life is terrible with no change in usage or where my phone spends most of its time.
I had the Android OS bug after the OTA. I reflashed the stock firmware in fastboot and now it's gone back down to a more manageable level.
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I actually had slightly better battery life on my Nexus5. I still haven't passed 7+ hours screen time on the MotoX. I did it multiple times with the Nexus5. Although I think the Nexus5 has some tech to save battery while reading or screen is still. It still wasn't enough to make me choose it over the awesomeness that is the MotoX. Although I do miss that raw power every so often.
I too have had the random drain issue. It's definitely app related and since I reset and have stopped installing outdated apps I've been fine.
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You know, I thought it was just me, but the battery life definitely why down after 4.4.2! Yes they added a couple of features, but not that many for the drop in battery life experienced
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My battery life is better on 4.4.2
The issues are with apps that have not been updated since kit kat. I've since removed such apps and have been enjoying much better battery life.
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Installed ds battery saver. And let discharge overnight. Gsam reported a 2%/hr discharge. I had some apps not be shutoff
Install a xposed module appopsx or find a app on the play store if you don't have xposed. 4.4.2 requires root.
It's the built in permissions management. You can disable location for what app for example. It shows you what app is using that permission and how long ago it used it.
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I unlocked and finally upgraded to 4.4.2 on Tuesday the 18th. I had a four day weekend and was on my phone A LOT (because I wasn't at work), so I wouldn't consider it normal usage to compare with. I'm waiting patiently for my averages to level off now that I'm back at work and on normal patterns again.
Before I wiped I took a screenshot of my averages according to GSAM, and it was showing 15h7m (7h42m active) average battery life, with 5h3m (7h12m max) screen on time.
I am currently a little below that, 12h20m (7h33m active) average battery life, with 5h28m (5h17m max) SoT. I was on my phone basically all day Friday-Sunday and had it on and off the charger. I haven't really had a full cycle of waking up, using the phone all day, and going to bed yet.
The apps I am running now are almost all identical. I actually removed 2-3 of them after finding that Gravity Box could emulate the features of standalone apps that I was using.
I am not using Greenify (I didn't see any substantial gain from it), but I do have the Snapdragon Battery Guru.
Overall, I don't think it's worse.
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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Some have got down to 0.5 per hour drain on standby, but I never could. Our x is about 1 also. Its strange, cause its set up about the same as my n5 and it can get to 0.4 usually, not in airplane mode either.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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That's part of it I'm sure. Maybe the radio? Who knows what else. LOL
Still.....better battery at the end of the day than my n5....with my usage.
An extremely light user may get more mileage with lower standby for sure, but doesn't really affect my wife. She charges over night regardless.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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Now we just need to test it througout the day with touchless control and active notifications off
Kitkat killed battery life. Used to be great, now it sucks.
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KitKat didn't kill battery life. Mine is about the same as it was before KitKat. In about 99.999% of the time an app is to blame. I have a simple but arduous method to find the app that's killing your battery.
I agree the battery has taken a hit. I used to ave about 9hrs of screen on time, now about 6hrs. I also have the chromecast issue. Strange thing is that sometimes the screen doesnt even show up In the battery stats. Sometimes the usage time doesnt change when it shows in battery stats. I am stock, 32gb white US model updated with Kies. I have done many factory resets. I have tried it for 2 days without installing any apps or disabling any samsung bloat, with no change in the tablest behavior.
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I agree the battery has taken a hit. I used to ave about 9hrs of screen on time, now about 6hrs. I also have the chromecast issue. Strange thing is that sometimes the screen doesnt even show up In the battery stats. Sometimes the usage time doesnt change when it shows in battery stats. I am stock, 32gb white US model updated with Kies. I have done many factory resets. I have tried it for 2 days without installing any apps or disabling any samsung bloat, with no change in the tablest behavior.
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Kitkat sent my note into fits. Battery life was terribly erratic at first. Dropping 30% in an hour, then suddenly jumping back up by 10%.
I tried factory reset.... nothing changed. Then I used the Battery Callibration app from playstore. Ran it and followed instructions exactly. (Waited til it was charged 100%, then run the program, then completely drain battery, then let it charge continuously back up to 100%).
Go figure............ since then things have calmed down and I am getting the same battery life as on my old Jellybeans note. (I know, because I've got two of these tablets and literally compared them side by side.)
Or, it could also be that after firmware upgrade things need a bit of time to settle down. Hope this helps.
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Kitkat sent my note into fits. Battery life was terribly erratic at first. Dropping 30% in an hour, then suddenly jumping back up by 10%.
I tried factory reset.... nothing changed. Then I used the Battery Callibration app from playstore. Ran it and followed instructions exactly. (Waited til it was charged 100%, then run the program, then completely drain battery, then let it charge continuously back up to 100%).
Go figure............ since then things have calmed down and I am getting the same battery life as on my old Jellybeans note. (I know, because I've got two of these tablets and literally compared them side by side.)
Or, it could also be that after firmware upgrade things need a bit of time to settle down. Hope this helps.
Barbara
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Yeah, I am used to android taking a bit to settle in. After my note 3 updated, it seems like it took a month to get back to my "normal". I hope the tablet does too, just frustrating in the mean time
Mine settled down after about 3 days and several resets. Now the battery seems comparable to pre-KitKat.
I don't think it is kit Kat. I'm running kit Kat and easily see 9 hours of screen on. It is most likely an app you have installed that is doing it.
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I don't think it is kit Kat.
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Then not everyone would then mention that it is not change or improved (in stand-by).
No, normally a app or bad file on the sd-card is killing here the battery. All tools to find this out, are already mentioned here. Good luck.
4.4 in and of itself isn't causing poorer battery life. In fact, owners of other devices are reporting improvements. The Exynos N3 for example. There aren't any battery life issue threads on the Pro forums and they have the same h/w and we're most likely using their 4.4 drivers and kernel. There are threads like this in every device forum when an Android version upgrade is released. It's almost always due to a bad flash or a rogue app or service. That and older apps that haven't been updated in ions and aren't playing well with the new OS. People here have reported shorter charging time and longer battery life. So what's being discussed isn't universal. I'd suggest doing a stock recovery and reviewing older apps and those that aren't developed by known and larger developers.
I have a Shield and S4 too. For every poster raving, there seems an opposite view on battery life and the SD card issue.
The SD issue makes battery life debates moot. Google has an Apple wannabe syndrome. Perhaps they will rebrand as Goople.
You can recalibrate the battery by running it down below 20% then recharging. I have seen it recommended to do this every 30 days or so.
My Note 3 with KitKat started using 20-30% of the battery at night while it was idle. Looked and looked and couldn't find a clue to the problem. Decided to reboot, the next night it was fine, used maybe 2-3%
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gramps50 said:
You can recalibrate the battery by running it down below 20% then recharging. I have seen it recommended to do this every 30 days or so.
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I am overage to believe in this new-world mysteries... and I am still hoping that nobody believe in this stories. Please, let me not became an old, lonely infidel.
Nope
The update did not kill my battery. Did you come from a rom?
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The update did not kill my battery. Did you come from a rom?
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Agree and disagree!
I did have charging problem and battery drain right after KK update. I have to do the Factory Data Reset. Luckily my tablet is back to normal if not better. I did spend sometime go thru all setting. So I managed to get 4 hrs of screen time with moderate use and I still have about 59% of battery.
So I say kk is good or better then jellybean
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Google has an Apple wannabe syndrome.
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Everybody wants to be a comedian.
I don't have this issue but maybe affected people should read this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52366635&postcount=236
I updated a couple days ago and since then my battery just sucks. It just went from 100% to 29% in 2 hours just using Youtube. It can't be right. Definitely it's the upgrade!!
I loved my Note 10.1 2014 out the box that I decided not to root. So it's factory stock and suck very bad.
If it's a bad app I can find it. It worked flawlessly before the upgrade.
Factory reset and see if it still happens. A dirty flash can do weird stuff...
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Yeah, im not getting great battery life either since this update. I just reset the tablet in the hope of tracking down what's the issue.
Troubling, since battery life was so great previously.
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Everybody wants to be a comedian.
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With the joke being on the user that lost the function.
I am considering purchasing a moto x pure edition because it can move to any carrier. This is the main reason I was considering this phone. The second and equally important reason is battery life. My current phone is a galaxy s4 active. The battery doesn't get me through the day at work (10 hours) with moderate use (4 hours screen time). This has annoyed me greatly. Unfortunately, I cannot have it charging at work so the phone needs to make it with ease through the day. I do not have wifi available so all activity will be through 4glte with 3/5 signal. I realize one of the complaints with the phone is battery life. My question is, if I root/unlock bl (which I do with every device), are there kernels that anyone here is running that can undervolt and get me that all day battery life out of this thing? I really don't want to buy it and be back in the same boat again. Unfortunately, the gs4a i had was never boot loader unlocked so i'm stuck on crappy touchwiz with stock kernel. It performs fine but battery life stinks. If I buy this phone, will i be dissapointed? Thanks to everyone for your responses.
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I am considering purchasing a moto x pure edition because it can move to any carrier. This is the main reason I was considering this phone. The second and equally important reason is battery life. My current phone is a galaxy s4 active. The battery doesn't get me through the day at work (10 hours) with moderate use (4 hours screen time). This has annoyed me greatly. Unfortunately, I cannot have it charging at work so the phone needs to make it with ease through the day. I do not have wifi available so all activity will be through 4glte with 3/5 signal. I realize one of the complaints with the phone is battery life. My question is, if I root/unlock bl (which I do with every device), are there kernels that anyone here is running that can undervolt and get me that all day battery life out of this thing? I really don't want to buy it and be back in the same boat again. Unfortunately, the gs4a i had was never boot loader unlocked so i'm stuck on crappy touchwiz with stock kernel. It performs fine but battery life stinks. If I buy this phone, will i be dissapointed? Thanks to everyone for your responses.
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You shouldn't have any problem hitting 4hrs SOT in 10 hours off the charger. I never have to charge this thing at work. I leave the house at 5am and don't plug it in until about 9pm.
thejase said:
I am considering purchasing a moto x pure edition because it can move to any carrier. This is the main reason I was considering this phone. The second and equally important reason is battery life. My current phone is a galaxy s4 active. The battery doesn't get me through the day at work (10 hours) with moderate use (4 hours screen time). This has annoyed me greatly. Unfortunately, I cannot have it charging at work so the phone needs to make it with ease through the day. I do not have wifi available so all activity will be through 4glte with 3/5 signal. I realize one of the complaints with the phone is battery life. My question is, if I root/unlock bl (which I do with every device), are there kernels that anyone here is running that can undervolt and get me that all day battery life out of this thing? I really don't want to buy it and be back in the same boat again. Unfortunately, the gs4a i had was never boot loader unlocked so i'm stuck on crappy touchwiz with stock kernel. It performs fine but battery life stinks. If I buy this phone, will i be dissapointed? Thanks to everyone for your responses.
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I just got my moto x pure two days ago. I came from using an S4 active which I still have. The turbo charing helps with the moto x. I'm still getting use to setting up my moto x the way I want it. You learn from trial and error. The main thing for me is that I want to make sure I can return to stock regardless of what happens to my phone.
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You shouldn't have any problem hitting 4hrs SOT in 10 hours off the charger. I never have to charge this thing at work. I leave the house at 5am and don't plug it in until about 9pm.
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Thanks so much for the reply! This is exactly the info I'm looking for. Some questions though, how much are you on in it and how much are you using wifi during that time? Also, are you on a custom kernel/rom?
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dkeepitabuck said:
I just got my moto x pure two days ago. I came from using an S4 active which I still have. The turbo charing helps with the moto x. I'm still getting use to setting up my moto x the way I want it. You learn from trial and error. The main thing for me is that I want to make sure I can return to stock regardless of what happens to my phone.
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The charger is a good point at home but I can't have it at work, unfortunately.
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thejase said:
Thanks so much for the reply! This is exactly the info I'm looking for. Some questions though, how much are you on in it and how much are you using wifi during that time? Also, are you on a custom kernel/rom?
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I range from 3-5 hours of screen on time depending on my usage. If I'm at the 3 hr end, then I usually make it off the charger from 5am-9pm range with a bit of life left. If I'm at the 5 hr end I'll have to charge a decent amount sooner (maybe 5am-6pm) but it's still a full day's use. I've run completely stock and I've tried a few different Roms and Kernels...I've never seen a huge difference in battery life though.
5 hs.of SOT, 12 hs without a charger ( not in the first week of use) you need a minimal of 5 charge/discharge cycles
Its a excellent phone !! (sorry for my english)
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Altomugriento said:
5 hs.of SOT, 12 hs without a charger ( not in the first week of use) you need a minimal of 5 charge/discharge cycles
Its a excellent phone !! (sorry for my english)
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This is good to know but I will be purchasing it used so the cycles will be there already.
thejase said:
This is good to know but I will be purchasing it used so the cycles will be there already.
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Think about this advice if you change the ROM.
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thejase said:
I am considering purchasing a moto x pure edition because it can move to any carrier. This is the main reason I was considering this phone. The second and equally important reason is battery life. My current phone is a galaxy s4 active. The battery doesn't get me through the day at work (10 hours) with moderate use (4 hours screen time). This has annoyed me greatly. Unfortunately, I cannot have it charging at work so the phone needs to make it with ease through the day. I do not have wifi available so all activity will be through 4glte with 3/5 signal. I realize one of the complaints with the phone is battery life. My question is, if I root/unlock bl (which I do with every device), are there kernels that anyone here is running that can undervolt and get me that all day battery life out of this thing? I really don't want to buy it and be back in the same boat again. Unfortunately, the gs4a i had was never boot loader unlocked so i'm stuck on crappy touchwiz with stock kernel. It performs fine but battery life stinks. If I buy this phone, will i be dissapointed? Thanks to everyone for your responses.
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I just got my Moto XPE too. Battery life was one of my biggest concerns. I came from a moto e (that little thing had ridiculous battery life). I was worried because of all the complaints of short battery life but I can tell you this:
When I first used the phone (no root, mods, out anything) I got around 4 hours sot pretty easily. That's a little short for me but it isn't terrible. The phone got really warm though and I felt as if it was unoptimized and the CPU was doing more work than it needed to.
I proceeded to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader. First I did a little research on these big.LITTLE cpus then i used a (well pretty much the only established one) custom kernel, Frankenclark, to do a little tweaking.
All I did was turn touchboost off and make the lowest CPU frequency one step lower, as well as turning hotplug to where the screen on minimum CPU count is 1. There was basically no loss in performance and it doesn't even get as much as warm now. I can't give you stats on the long term battery life yet but in the time that I wrote this I only lost 2% ( I type slow ).
Before both the big and LITTLE CPU clusters were showing on and pretty much going crazy all the time. Now the big cluster is hardly ever on. The phone by default has touchboost set to turn on cpu1 (which is one of 2 cores in the big cluster) every time you touch the screen, which is very wasteful. (At least that's how it was with this kernel, I'm pretty sure stock did the same thing) I'm currently running TruPureX ROM (stock debloated) but I doubt it gives any battery life improvements. Motorola made a good stock rom. I really like this phone. Good luck with your purchase! PS the Nexus 6p has generally better battery life if you can live with no sdcard and the steeper price. The 6p can also move between carriers as the XPE can. Verizon included which is what I use.
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When you put this thing down, you can expect to pick it back up with the same battery % left. Standby is ridiculous, which is nice.
^^Does your screen on setting of 1 cpu stick? On mine with kernel editor it reverts back to 2 after a reboot.
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I just got my Moto XPE too. Battery life was one of my biggest concerns. I came from a moto e (that little thing had ridiculous battery life). I was worried because of all the complaints of short battery life but I can tell you this:
When I first used the phone (no root, mods, out anything) I got around 4 hours sot pretty easily. That's a little short for me but it isn't terrible. The phone got really warm though and I felt as if it was unoptimized and the CPU was doing more work than it needed to.
I proceeded to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader. First I did a little research on these big.LITTLE cpus then i used a (well pretty much the only established one) custom kernel, Frankenclark, to do a little tweaking.
All I did was turn touchboost off and make the lowest CPU frequency one step lower, as well as turning hotplug to where the screen on minimum CPU count is 1. There was basically no loss in performance and it doesn't even get as much as warm now. I can't give you stats on the long term battery life yet but in the time that I wrote this I only lost 2% ( I type slow ).
Before both the big and LITTLE CPU clusters were showing on and pretty much going crazy all the time. Now the big cluster is hardly ever on. The phone by default has touchboost set to turn on cpu1 (which is one of 2 cores in the big cluster) every time you touch the screen, which is very wasteful. (At least that's how it was with this kernel, I'm pretty sure stock did the same thing) I'm currently running TruPureX ROM (stock debloated) but I doubt it gives any battery life improvements. Motorola made a good stock rom. I really like this phone. Good luck with your purchase! PS the Nexus 6p has generally better battery life if you can live with no sdcard and the steeper price. The 6p can also move between carriers as the XPE can. Verizon included which is what I use.
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When you put this thing down, you can expect to pick it back up with the same battery % left. Standby is ridiculous, which is nice.
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This is incredible information! Thank you! Unfortunately, the 6p is just out of my price range.
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^^Does your screen on setting of 1 cpu stick? On mine with kernel editor it reverts back to 2 after a reboot.
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I think I remember it's a bug where it will stick if the screen is on while kernel adiutor is restoring the settings but it will revert to 2 cores if the screen is off while it's restoring. Don't quote me on it but I think that's what it was.
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thejase said:
This is incredible information! Thank you! Unfortunately, the 6p is just out of my price range.
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It was mine too. I got the 64GB MXP for the same price as the 16GB on amazon and I couldn't resist. It's nice to have an SDcard too :good:
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I think I remember it's a bug where it will stick if the screen is on while kernel adiutor is restoring the settings but it will revert to 2 cores if the screen is off while it's restoring. Don't quote me on it but I think that's what it was.
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If I set it 1 6 1 (min screen on cores: 1, max cores : 6, max screen off cores 1), the phone will reboot if I don't allow kernel auditor to apply the settings while screen is still on (after a reboot). That is, after phone reboots, if screen goes blank, when I hit the power button, phone will reboot on its own.
Probably not a major issue considering I only reboot about once every week or two. I can make sure I watch the cycle and unlock it, wait for everything to settle, then turn off the screen.
Guess what I just got? someone on eBay was selling the 64gb for 300 bucks in mint condition! Just can't beat it. Thanks to everyone for info and suggestions along the way. Any recommendations on cases and screen protectors? I've always like seidio for cases and whatever is highly rated on @maz0n for screen protectors but any advice would be appreciated!
I have seidio case and holster, I think they only sell one for it, and I love it.
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Ultimately I wound up getting a vena vskin that's see through. I really love it. Only problem is the back is curved life the phone so using it on a table with one hand swiping for SwiftKey makes it spin.
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