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Since there's no dedicated thread for the Z1 Compact I figured I'd start one.
My main question is: Has anyone seen any price predictions?
Will be interesting to see just how similar they are on the inside, I'm guessing very!
549euro... But it's not sure
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It's pretty much the perfect phone IMO - apart from the frame... Something about it makes it look a little bit cheap-ish. I might change my opinion once I hold and try it in my own hands.
Too bad I just bought Z1 a couple of months ago.
Official price... 499 euro
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My new phone :laugh:
499 on preoder means 450 on the web. Perfect size, high end hardware, top quality build, sd card nfc and so on... Unlocked by sony as usual and well known hardware for custom rom
pretty enthusiast, go sony :good:
I think the Z1 Compact is a great phone. Smaller body, big specs.
But do you think it is a bit of a downgrade if a Z1 will be exchanged to a Z1 Compact due to screen size and battery? Just asking.
Should the screen of the Z1 Compact is very good compared than Z1 then that's a bit of sad for Z1 owners but nonetheless Z1 is a great phone and every owner of Z1 knows it right?
i saw somewhere around the netz that the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
cant wait for this one to come available, the white one looks so beautiful, i avoided the z1 for the size, and z1 compact is almost the size of my ex-phone .. arc s.
time to move sooon
Amazing work by Sony
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact Hands-On
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Amazing work by Sony
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact Hands-On
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Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...
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Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...
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It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.
AntiDroid said:
It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.
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..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...
eclyptos said:
..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...
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Err... yeah, good luck with that buddy.
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the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
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+1 for that. 1/4 pixel, about 1/4 battery drain for screen
HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.
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HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.
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Sony started a new trend, with the popularity the Z1 compact is getting im pretty sure the other manufacturers WILL start making mini flagships with high end specs, starting with Samsung
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So glad, I've been waiting with buying the S4 Active, I mean awesome one everyone who has it is happy with it, but I need a HANDY not with some multimedia capabilities, not the other way around and 5' just is too big for me.
Thankfully Sony realized, that Mini doesn't need to be lesser it just mean SAME product in a smaller frame and that's essentially what they've done. Would have been nice to have a 1080p but other than that, really no complains great product. Heres hoping - yes I'm hinting at you Samsung - are going to follow suit with the S5 Mini/Compact.
Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.
Ordered it yesterday, it will be an awesome device!
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Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.
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+1 for that, I'm really impressed and glad to see Sony being the first one to realize that not everybody wants a >5" screen. I confess to you guys that after seeing every major brand going with huge screens I was starting to consider switch to iPhone. It's a relief to see the Xperia z1 compact "borning" and now I'm waiting anxiously it start selling in Brazil. Kudos to you Sony, well done.
Xperia Z1 can support that large battery because it is large phone. Z1 Compact is smaller phone there is no place for that large battery. But 2300Mah is HUGE (and best) for a phone with 4.3 inch so..no worries here friends. Also since smaller screen and res it will consume less power. The big Xperia Z had this 2300Mah battery capacity!!!
As for a display 1080p to 720p it's nothing. I've seen both Xperia T and Xperia Z. Compared screen res...the same.
Conclusion: It is not a downgrade it's the same only in different sizes. I have a hard time choosing size now. :/
Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.
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Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.
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Great to know, I thought that the only change was on size and resolution, could you please explain why contrast and viewing angles was improved?
About the other specs, I agree with you that's it's not a exactly a downgrade since it doesn't seem technically possible to fit a bigger battery or a 1080p resolution screen on such a small phone. If you compare with HTC one mini or galaxy s4 mini (both 4.3") have 1.800 and 1.900mAh only.
http://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini-vs-htc-one-mini
Seriously???!!!!!
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-compact-already-on-the-way--1239773
C;mon Sony.. let me enjoy my phone for a bit longer!!!!
More RAM and better camera and faster processor if it follows the z2.... life time of z1 = 3 to 6 months??? :S
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More RAM and better camera and faster processor if it follows the z2.... life time of z1 = 3 to 6 months??? :S
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almost identical processor... almost identical camera... i dont see the point for upgrading.
DAC Audio is cool indeed, timeshift too... 4k is not a big deal for me.
No matter what you do... you will always be 4-6 months from what manufacturers and the carriers would have you believe is 'obsolescence'. Much like the megapixel race (which is laughable), and 4G -eewhisyouneedthis, most of it is the marketing team and peers making you think you need it. I spent tons of graphics cards for my PC's before I finally realized the chase never ends, and that I should research and settle on something for more than 8 months.
I won't be chasing that rabbit...
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almost identical processor... almost identical camera... i dont see the point for upgrading.
DAC Audio is cool indeed, timeshift too... 4k is not a big deal for me.
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I agree, I just wonder about the 3gb ram... that is the most interesting feature for me...
But once again I just hope this news will bring the z1 compact price down and I will get mine
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Sony would be a lot more profitable if they didn't insist on flooding the market with numerous but similar spec variations of essentially the same device. I'm gutted that they've brought the Vaio to an end and would be sad to see the Xperia go down the same track.
I think sony do the big profit in the first 2 month ish... after 2-3 month the phone profit goes down to a not as big one and of course Sony cares only of the big profit. So I can see why thy to what they do... more when u take into account all the other phone makers that are putting out their devices at different times. Good way for Sony to compete against the others.
Just wonder about quality control and development costs...
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Just wonder about quality control and development costs...
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That's what I'm referring to, they would be better off with 3 or 4 models every year, compact, budget, mid range and high end.
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I think sony do the big profit in the first 2 month ish... after 2-3 month the phone profit goes down to a not as big one and of course Sony cares only of the big profit. So I can see why thy to what they do... more when u take into account all the other phone makers that are putting out their devices at different times. Good way for Sony to compete against the others.
Just wonder about quality control and development costs...
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Actually.... No. =)
I can agree, if we are talking about Z2 (which has to compete with the new Samsung S5, HTC New One and etc), but it's different with Z1c. Z1 Compact is one-of-the-kind. It has literally no competitors in it's High-End-Portable niche on the market. So, IMO, it's kinda counter-productive to dish out another Compact in such a short period of time since Z1c release. :\
While I won't buy the Z2 compact (and maybe even skip the Z3 compact), I just hope they keep the size the same as z1 compact. I want a small phone, not a smaller phone (which will grow in size if flagships increase in size). I once said to my friend, it's ironic when the so called "minis" (and compact) is so much larger than my non "mini" phone (was using, xperia ray, I guess that made my ray "micro" ) and about the same size as xperia s/galaxy s2 which is a "normal" sized phone
ps: I know that mini actually means smaller version and not small in manufacturer definition. I just dislike the trend.
Well let's just note that the news of the FCC are not necessarily for the z2 compact but for the Sony z2 2f or Japanese version of the z2 compact... so time wise we should add two to three months more for the z2c starting from the release date of the Japanese version.
How is 4.5" compact? The Z1 Compact is already not compact at all because of the bezel. I said they should make the phone smaller not bigger, but apparently Sony don't understand.
Well they could easily fit a 4.5 inch screen and make the bezels smaller.
I fully expect a Z2 compact come the end of the year, but not in a few months.
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How is 4.5" compact? The Z1 Compact is already not compact at all because of the bezel. I said they should make the phone smaller not bigger, but apparently Sony don't understand.
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Completely agree. While I think the Z1 Compact is great, if anything I would prefer it to be slightly smaller - maybe a 4.1" or 4.2" (at most) screen with reduced bezel/hard capacitive buttons would be perfect. If Z2 'Compact' has a 4.5" screen then I certainly wouldn't be interested in upgrading.
if you read sony forums everyone is begging for a bigger display/phone. I'd almost think these guys are fake competitor accounts, since it makes no sense. the regular Z2 is great for a larger display. It's not like you need 5.2, 5.1, 5.0, 4.9, ... displays
4.2/no bezels would be cool (also, its probably never going to happen...)
I think the main concern seems to be the bezel. Looking at something like the Moto X its clear the screen could be 4.5 or even 4.7 while maintaining a similar size without those massive bezels.
Personally I'd like to see 4.3 with little bezel or 4.5 with little bezel. Even 4.7 is possible if they minimize bezel ala LG G2. I've actually got a Note 2 so I'm sure the size will be much more managable regardless of bezel or not though! Just sort of feels like wasted space though.
Keep in mind that z1 compact has the largest battery in this size and is waterproof ontop of it. Choosing between small bezel or big battery + waterproof id go with the latter everytime...
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The z1c already is too big, I had a moto RAZR I before that, that was a nice form factor (not that I want it back, but this part of it, they did very well).
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That does put a damper on our relationship.
Best camera, screen, battery life and great performance, all in a compact waterproof dustproof package, can't be BEAT.
I still intend to keep my Z1 Compact for at least a year. So... I guess I'll be getting the Z3 Compact then?
I hope the screen stays at 4.3 inch. I still want a nice ppi.
Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,
i did it, and i have to say. battery life is awesome!
The Size difference from Z2 to Z is not that big, you don't realy feel it in the pants.
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Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,
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I used to use Note 2 then XZ then Z2.
For the battery life, my daily normal usage on Xperia Z would leave battery at red level (less than 14%) at the end of the day. However, on Z2, I always have more than 50% at the end of the day with the same usage.
For the size, of course Z2 is bigger but its not that significant since Z2 maintains its waistline at 8.2 mm while XZ is 7.9. However when compared to Note 2, I think its, not a lot but also not a bit, quite more handy.
The only thing I see that XZ is better than Z2 (excluding minor bugs that would be solved later) is that when you are babling on Z2, it would not pick any of your words at all. One you are talking to will think your are being silence.
I owned the original Xperia Z and at the time it broke into many new areas of technology. I found the phone to be superb. A family member now has it. The Z was heavily criticised for 'viewing angles'. I NEVER understood that? WHO looks at their phone from a 45degree angle? Never mind.
From memory I think the battery life on the Z may last longer than on the Z2? Don't shoot me, I don't know. I have only owned the Z2 for nearly a week. Size wise the Z2 is larger BUT not significantly. Both are very well made and function well. Both have their little foibles but then so do we owners. The specification of the Z2 leaves the original Z dead in the water in nearly every aspect.
As I so often write here, no one can choose a mobile for you. The right mobile for you is the mobile that fulfils your daily requirements. Massive choice now with several different UI and OS not to mention construction materials and size etc.
I hope what ever your purchase will be the mobile for you. Good luck. :highfive:
Ryland
Hi ! I had Xperia Z like you. I bought Xperia Z2 this week. I had same questions on my mind like you. A bit bigger size of Z2 worried me too. But I can say that it's tolerable. My hand quickly adapted to it. Battery is significantly better when compared to my old Z. I think i can use it without charging for two days I had to charge my old Z once a day. And screen and camera is significantly better. I advise you to give a chance to new Xperia Z2.
Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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"A pre-birthday present"!? I like that, I shall borrow that line. :highfive:
Ryland :laugh:
i didn't think about switching from Z to Z2 too cause to me they both seem a bit similar, but my carrier contract was ended and they contact me saying if id like to get a new cellphone, so i got it and it was awesome. the size is a bit bigger and the battery performance is like 200% better
its a great switch, i recommend that you get it
I think the difference in size is noticeable, personally. I really like the size of the Z better.
The screen, battery life, camera, and hardware camera shutter button are big improvements for the Z2
I don't think the Z2 feels any faster for normal use so the spec bumps in hardware don't make as much of a difference. I don't game on it at all.
The power button is not as large or positive-feeling on the Z2. Not a show stopper, but noticeable.
I don't like the KK firmware with the Home button takeover and the two-tabbed notification page. I preferred the older JB interface. It seems like the KK interface in general is much less dense - less information in a larger space for all elements. I don't see the point in that - there is a 5.2 in screen and you leave it mostly as empty space?
If I had a Z I wouldn't pay full price for the Z2 - I would at least wait for the next one. If it's cheap on contract and you sell off the Z, I'd say go for it.
Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!
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Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!
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I agree on this. Out of the Z, Z1 or Z2, I prefer the Z's volume rockers.
Just got my z2 yesterday as I can tell better screen, sound, picture quality and battery life than my beloved z. But I like z's design than z2 cause of the size, ratio and color matches. But its time to let go bye bye z.
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So far though not official yet, according to GSMarena, the specs doesn't look too good at least for me to upgrade to the Z3. Base hardwarewise is basically the same... kind of dissapointed me
Unless they put some significant changes as Z1->Z2, i think this time i won't upgrade but maybe wait for the Z4
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z3_benchmarks_leak_showing_it_has_the_z2_specs-news-9315.php
No, I'm under contract for two years so no way.
Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
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Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
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What's android L
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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Next version of Android.
After the Z2/M8 I would get something with UHD not QHD and with 5.5-5.7inch screen without much bezel. The 805 is only good in the GPU department and even then 1440p/420 is equal to 1080p/330. So my next phone might be iPhone 7 or Z5-Z7
Nope, Z2 is a very good phone for me. Z3 has not much extra's
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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My thoughts are exactly the same, if I gonna switch it, it's gonna be for z3 compact only,
but not sure yet, have to see what does z3c offers over z2 except size-wise
With Sony's 6 month release cycle it's pretty hard to keep up especially if they are just making nominal and incremental changes. If they go with the 2k screen they better up the batter from the z2.
I'm going to be staying with the z2. Just found it after almost the entire year trying out other phones and I'm loving it.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
This time, no.
It's almost the same phone...
If Z3 doesn't have a 5.5 inch screen then I'll get the note 4
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The only new thing is the ''design'' xD. So Nooo thank you.Sticking to my Z2 <3 This 6 month cycle is a complete crap if you ask me :/
No Z3 for me if there is nothing new. For now Z2 has better design.
Not at all, mainly because right now I'm more keen to switch back to a Nexus device, and also the improvements from Z2 to Z3 shouldnt be too great a reason to make the upgrade.
IMHO, Z3 is mainly meant for "new" buyers that are coming from older Sony (Sony Ericsson) devices or other brands and they are intend to buy a flag ship this autumn/winter.
Of course, also those ones who must have the latest and newest are welcome
I'm staying with z2 for awhile
There hasn't been as much in the way of leaks as previous devices. I can only hope there's some amazing improvement we've not been told about.
Because for now it seems that it might be a bit more rounded at the edges, maybe have a smaller bezel and that's about it.
Wireless charging would be nice as a new addition, but otherwise what could a Z2 possibly get that would make a swap worthwhile?
I realise I said that with the Z2 over the Z1 but it turned out the screen was a lot better, physically bigger and the front facing speakers a massive leap. So all the must have changes have already happened.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
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This!
Actually if one year from now and still not much has changed I'd even stay put then. There aren't many phones that appeal to me like the Z2. It's downright sexy, screen is now tolerable with the viewing angles and it is just the right size for me. All I would personally change is either 32/64 internal as my games are a few gigs and an amoled screen. I just got too used to the oversaturation of them.
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about getting one of the above devices to replace my C6603. The reason I have asked here is because I know Xperia Z users will want the same things as I do. Now we know how durable the Z is so based on mainly durability which of the above would be best for me?
Apparently dragontrail glass is no longer used on these models which is my main worry, I don't want a phone that will break easily as I use the phone around engine bays and all sorts.
Cheers for any input guys,
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You're right.
I'm about to replace my C6603 too.
Well, if you seek for a device that won't break easily like a glass, then the above 3 choices is fragile.
If you want a reliable, not easily break devices, you can start with Xperia X or X Performance. But, if you search for a budget device, I suggest you go for Z3. Z1 is good, but not good enough (screen, battery, RAM and chipset) compare to Z2. And Z2 has some software issue on Marshmallow firmware (related to WiFi).
If you ask me, I would buy Z2. I like the design.
I've recently replaced Z to Z2 after four years. I like it a lot. It's a great phone if you don't need the newest gear. All major disadvantages that was bothering me on Z is gone on Z2. Good Speakers i think one of the best in Z series. Good screen, great battery life comparing to Z. I didn't noticed any wifi problems but cellular signal is weaker on Z2 perhaps because of full aluminum body. My Z was holding good signal like a beast i could talk clearly when other people just can't even make a call. Only in this case Z2 is a little dissapointment to me. Also i miss FM transmitter i used it a lot in car.