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Why did you choose Xperia Z2?

Hi all, refer to the above let's discuss why you choose xperia z2 compare with others device.
is it because the design, Spec, price, sony fans or others.
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Simply because it's the best flagship on the market at the moment.

S5 sucked balls. It will be Z2 unless HTC suprises us with a monster in about 1 month.
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Just saw ARTICLE about new IPS screen and Sony finally have great and quality product.
I'm completely satisfied with my Z1 but if I get some interesting offer (like I got for Z1) I'll definitely try it.
Why?
Because, now, Z1 is ultimate device and Sony just upgraded it
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Because the Z2 is the best on the market just now, S5 rom is 8Gb compared to the Z2's 4Gb, plus Z2 has way more excellent specs. I don't care that Samsung maybe releasing a 64bit S5 later this year as I think it is too early for me to get into 64 bit phones just now; as infrastructure etc is not in place yet i.e. app devs have yet to jump on board. That is my opinion anyway...

Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.

I had a Z, ZL and now Z1. Logical to have a Z2 next.
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Lost faith in Samsung with there handling of s3 updates plus had problems with them regarding other Samsung products. Been a fan of sony for a while now and its coming close to my phone upgrade and the Z2 currently looks like it. I have a few months to go so plenty of time to judge the competition and see what negatives might crop up about the z2.
As long as root is easily gained with minimal drawback Ill most likely be picking up the z2.
Plus the specs of this phone do look pretty good to me

Bigger battery, nicer look, wanted something that wasn't made by Samsung for once.
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Eye friendly...
I am one of the small amount percentage of population who seems to suffer from LED's displays... Sony triluminos display tech, seems to be benign on our eyes. At least sony Vaio Pro 13 and flip are better displays... This issue has years... Hope Z2 is really eye friendly to me too...
Seems spectrum of light of triluminos technology is more balanced. Not a huge blue spike on spectrum...
Here you could see a thread talking on LED's:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1677617?start=0&tstart=0
My HTC One is killing my eyes...
Cheers...

xz2
because of this past year i cannot trust Sony easily!
i love to buy Xperia Z2 IF all thing about display & ... be right!
if no two quality of display!
sharp display! jdc! OR all story like those!
It s ok if sony s using different company for display supplying BUT not different quality from each company.
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My first phone was the Motorola RAZR V3i and have been a loyal user since then with Moto Droid & Moto RAZR... just loved the premium build quality along with excellent specs. Beauty with brains! Loved the design of Xperia Z & Z1 but was hesitant to switch due to the screen quality as I'm spoiled by AMOLED on my RAZR.
But the Z2 seems like the only phone to be awesome inside & out with no drawbacks to give me second thoughts why not to buy it... (Size was a little concern but I can live with that)

It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.

bigbrown said:
It's either the htc one 2014 or z2. I'm going to buy on tmobile 's jump program if i do decide to get one of these puppies. The phone addict in me wants the latest and greatest, but honestly don't "need" one just yet since I have the N5.
I expect by Fall, everyone will update their SOCs with 64 bit cpus. Also hope that finger print unlock and pw will be supported more widely. Not to mention waterproof and 3GB of ram. These will be must have options.
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I also want to see what htc will bring to the table. I doubt it can match sony. Also would need a case since you can't get protection on the alu back.
I don't really see a need for 64 bit systems. What do you see 64 bit bring? Do phones need a new OS to match it? Will support for old systems stop?

We might not need it in the consumer space, but it's one of those things where if you can get it as a little to no-cost option, why not? I can envision a bunch of enterprise use cases like big data analytics and data visualization, not to mention phones/phablets/tablets with > 4gb of ram etc

I'm currently on a htc one x, my contract has 2 weeks on it, so I started looking. The galaxy s5 is a massive fail in my eyes, and I'm just getting bored with HTC. As soon as a saw a leak of sense 6 I knew I'd be bored. I'm going to miss BlinkFeed, but the look of the Z2 and the specs, plus noise cancelling and stereo speakers, as well as the camera (going on a once in a lifetime holiday in August), coupled with an sd card slot and waterproofing (11 pools in the resort), I think it'd be a crime not to go for the Z2. I am worried about the size a little bit, even tho I have big hands.

I have the HTC one and have very little complaints about it and the 2014 version looks promissing but that panel that used to have the capacitive buttons on it is still there but now it's just a logo. Idk why they would keep that. I hate wasted space and big bezels and I think the Z2 once I get Cyanogenmod running on it would be amazing

because the first android phone that i used was sony
sony phones are great in price , support in my country and dev's are supporting them great
and the most important one because sony phones are blazing fast and their software is useful and they don't have useless futures that only make your phone slower and they will eat your ram as hell
thats why i decided to buy sony z2

I love the design,
I love the software,
I love the camera,
I love the build quality,
I love the bigger battery,
I love front facing speakers,
And 3gb of Ram which the s5 don't have (besides I got the note 3, I dont need any more Samsung devices for now)
The Z2 and the note 3 will do me for now

mujj said:
Waterproofing
Micro SD slot
Front facing speakers
Great camera
And thankfully a big battery
Also simple things like a camera shutter button make this the best phone on the market atm.
BTW, would not touch the S5. The design combined with touchwiz is enough to put me off.
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All of the above + 3GB RAM is what sold me. It should also make this phone relevant for a while. Can't wait for the Z2 to arrive!

Upgrading Z to Z2

Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,

i did it, and i have to say. battery life is awesome!
The Size difference from Z2 to Z is not that big, you don't realy feel it in the pants.

monsieur_debile said:
Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,
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I used to use Note 2 then XZ then Z2.
For the battery life, my daily normal usage on Xperia Z would leave battery at red level (less than 14%) at the end of the day. However, on Z2, I always have more than 50% at the end of the day with the same usage.
For the size, of course Z2 is bigger but its not that significant since Z2 maintains its waistline at 8.2 mm while XZ is 7.9. However when compared to Note 2, I think its, not a lot but also not a bit, quite more handy.
The only thing I see that XZ is better than Z2 (excluding minor bugs that would be solved later) is that when you are babling on Z2, it would not pick any of your words at all. One you are talking to will think your are being silence.

I owned the original Xperia Z and at the time it broke into many new areas of technology. I found the phone to be superb. A family member now has it. The Z was heavily criticised for 'viewing angles'. I NEVER understood that? WHO looks at their phone from a 45degree angle? Never mind.
From memory I think the battery life on the Z may last longer than on the Z2? Don't shoot me, I don't know. I have only owned the Z2 for nearly a week. Size wise the Z2 is larger BUT not significantly. Both are very well made and function well. Both have their little foibles but then so do we owners. The specification of the Z2 leaves the original Z dead in the water in nearly every aspect.
As I so often write here, no one can choose a mobile for you. The right mobile for you is the mobile that fulfils your daily requirements. Massive choice now with several different UI and OS not to mention construction materials and size etc.
I hope what ever your purchase will be the mobile for you. Good luck. :highfive:
Ryland

Hi ! I had Xperia Z like you. I bought Xperia Z2 this week. I had same questions on my mind like you. A bit bigger size of Z2 worried me too. But I can say that it's tolerable. My hand quickly adapted to it. Battery is significantly better when compared to my old Z. I think i can use it without charging for two days I had to charge my old Z once a day. And screen and camera is significantly better. I advise you to give a chance to new Xperia Z2.

Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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guhvanoh said:
Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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"A pre-birthday present"!? I like that, I shall borrow that line. :highfive:
Ryland :laugh:

i didn't think about switching from Z to Z2 too cause to me they both seem a bit similar, but my carrier contract was ended and they contact me saying if id like to get a new cellphone, so i got it and it was awesome. the size is a bit bigger and the battery performance is like 200% better
its a great switch, i recommend that you get it

I think the difference in size is noticeable, personally. I really like the size of the Z better.
The screen, battery life, camera, and hardware camera shutter button are big improvements for the Z2
I don't think the Z2 feels any faster for normal use so the spec bumps in hardware don't make as much of a difference. I don't game on it at all.
The power button is not as large or positive-feeling on the Z2. Not a show stopper, but noticeable.
I don't like the KK firmware with the Home button takeover and the two-tabbed notification page. I preferred the older JB interface. It seems like the KK interface in general is much less dense - less information in a larger space for all elements. I don't see the point in that - there is a 5.2 in screen and you leave it mostly as empty space?
If I had a Z I wouldn't pay full price for the Z2 - I would at least wait for the next one. If it's cheap on contract and you sell off the Z, I'd say go for it.

Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!

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Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!
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I agree on this. Out of the Z, Z1 or Z2, I prefer the Z's volume rockers.

Just got my z2 yesterday as I can tell better screen, sound, picture quality and battery life than my beloved z. But I like z's design than z2 cause of the size, ratio and color matches. But its time to let go bye bye z.
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Will you upgrade from Z2 to Z3

So far though not official yet, according to GSMarena, the specs doesn't look too good at least for me to upgrade to the Z3. Base hardwarewise is basically the same... kind of dissapointed me
Unless they put some significant changes as Z1->Z2, i think this time i won't upgrade but maybe wait for the Z4
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z3_benchmarks_leak_showing_it_has_the_z2_specs-news-9315.php

No, I'm under contract for two years so no way.

Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L

El.Guaje said:
Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
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What's android L
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.

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Next version of Android.

After the Z2/M8 I would get something with UHD not QHD and with 5.5-5.7inch screen without much bezel. The 805 is only good in the GPU department and even then 1440p/420 is equal to 1080p/330. So my next phone might be iPhone 7 or Z5-Z7

Nope, Z2 is a very good phone for me. Z3 has not much extra's

Die Bruine said:
I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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My thoughts are exactly the same, if I gonna switch it, it's gonna be for z3 compact only,
but not sure yet, have to see what does z3c offers over z2 except size-wise

With Sony's 6 month release cycle it's pretty hard to keep up especially if they are just making nominal and incremental changes. If they go with the 2k screen they better up the batter from the z2.
I'm going to be staying with the z2. Just found it after almost the entire year trying out other phones and I'm loving it.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)

This time, no.
It's almost the same phone...

If Z3 doesn't have a 5.5 inch screen then I'll get the note 4
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The only new thing is the ''design'' xD. So Nooo thank you.Sticking to my Z2 <3 This 6 month cycle is a complete crap if you ask me :/

No Z3 for me if there is nothing new. For now Z2 has better design.

Not at all, mainly because right now I'm more keen to switch back to a Nexus device, and also the improvements from Z2 to Z3 shouldnt be too great a reason to make the upgrade.

IMHO, Z3 is mainly meant for "new" buyers that are coming from older Sony (Sony Ericsson) devices or other brands and they are intend to buy a flag ship this autumn/winter.
Of course, also those ones who must have the latest and newest are welcome

I'm staying with z2 for awhile

There hasn't been as much in the way of leaks as previous devices. I can only hope there's some amazing improvement we've not been told about.
Because for now it seems that it might be a bit more rounded at the edges, maybe have a smaller bezel and that's about it.
Wireless charging would be nice as a new addition, but otherwise what could a Z2 possibly get that would make a swap worthwhile?
I realise I said that with the Z2 over the Z1 but it turned out the screen was a lot better, physically bigger and the front facing speakers a massive leap. So all the must have changes have already happened.
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ravdo said:
Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
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This!
Actually if one year from now and still not much has changed I'd even stay put then. There aren't many phones that appeal to me like the Z2. It's downright sexy, screen is now tolerable with the viewing angles and it is just the right size for me. All I would personally change is either 32/64 internal as my games are a few gigs and an amoled screen. I just got too used to the oversaturation of them.

if you could choose to replace your Z5C to another sony

what you will replace with?
X compact (design like XZ but same specs as Xperia X just 4.6" screen) also slower GPU\CPU from z5c
or X performance (same specs as XZ abit bigger than compact 5" instead of 5.2 and also new design)
or stay with your correct Z5C

i probably will go with XP even that i prefer small screen 4.6 to 5.0 not that big difference 1080P and 40% faster cpu (according to qualcomm)

Just gone from z3c to z5c so would take that as the change ? Not impressed with the X compact at all, and don't like 5"+ screens as to big. So there's little high end phones with small screens at the moment it's pretty disappointing.
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mgdorbit said:
Just gone from z3c to z5c so would take that as the change Not impressed with the X compact at all, and don't like 5"+ screens as to big. So there's little high end phones with small screens at the moment it's pretty disappointing.
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yup z5c was the last high end phone from sony with small screen i think
X compact got 605 SD vs our 810SD , also besides speed Z5C got waterproof and 4K video, XC does not
if it had same spces as XP or XZ it was better from Z5

As much as I prefer the smaller form factor of the Compact series, I'm more likely to switch to the smaller Nexus (Pixel?) device than another Sony. Not sure the 28nm SoC in the X Compact would be an upgrade over the Z5C.

Z3 because of the AOSP Android 7

rtimoff said:
Z3 because of the AOSP Android 7
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It seems Z3 android7 aosp will stuck in alpha/beta status forever and never will pull out a release ver from Sony bcoz Qualcomm already said that they won't support sd800/sd801 in android 7.0 officially.

I had Z3c , I have now a Z5c and I plan to buy a X Compact , why because for me it is an upgrade, I played with the normal X and it was very snappy , the camera from the X compact is a improvement and I like to take photos and this is the biggest plus for me versus the Z5c , also the battery life should be better IMO, more support from Sony in the near future , no glass back ( no stress of shatter) .
The only 2 things Z5c has that i will miss is the waterproof( but I will still keep the Z5c) and maybe a little bit the design, but the second one is more a guess because I didn't held a X compact in my hand , yet!

I'll see what next Nexus is, and maybe trade for it. Previous Nexus(5x and 6p) really did not impress me.
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rtimoff said:
I'll see what next Nexus is, and maybe trade for it. Previous Nexus(5x and 6p) really did not impress me.
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nexus line was killed as well

Hello Guys
That's funny to notice reading you that we are a lot of people who don't want a larger screen than 4.5" and that there not a lot of models less than 5" .
Hey people from marketing, can you ear us ?

andysoft83 said:
I had Z3c , I have now a Z5c and I plan to buy a X Compact , why because for me it is an upgrade, I played with the normal X and it was very snappy , the camera from the X compact is a improvement and I like to take photos and this is the biggest plus for me versus the Z5c , also the battery life should be better IMO, more support from Sony in the near future , no glass back ( no stress of shatter) .
The only 2 things Z5c has that i will miss is the waterproof( but I will still keep the Z5c) and maybe a little bit the design, but the second one is more a guess because I didn't held a X compact in my hand , yet!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/apps-apps-xperia-xz-t3454223
After I installed the stock XC cam.apk, I found my Z5c image quality is real better. I think color, focus, speed, image quality all got some improvement and showed the potential of IMX300 now. More importantly to me, the auto exposure when dealing with tough environment finally seems improved(though my Z1c still performs somewhat better here). The XC cam.apk is big almost double sized than the one Z5c comes with, so I think Sony is real working into it.
I believe XZ and XC will got nice camera fine tuning with this piece of sensor and fixed many problems in Z5c so it is worth to upgrade if you sololy looking for camera performance like me. I real like XC now because more updates only existed in the XC's kernel and rom based which is very difficult to port to Z5 series. At this time, I'm happy upgraded to XC stock cam, a free upgrade.
I don't have money in a short time so I think I'm gonna stick with Z5c for a while and only think about XC next year.

Is there any way to install the new camera from X compact without root ?

I wouldnt go for a Sony Upgrade. Only reason I have a z5c is because my wife wanted my Nexus 6p and I thought I'd use something compact and see how it goes. I love the dimension, the quality of the Z5c but I hate how it heats up like mofo and that theres very little dev support. Its been like that with most Xperia phones and I don't see how the X series is going to attract any considering the initial price at release and a downgrade in specs. Also it seems well-known accessory makers steer clear of Xperia devices, I'd be lucky if I find a decent quality case.
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I wish there was a good alternative to the Z5 c but if you want a small water resistant device with good specs that's really about it. Not much else out there that checks those boxes.

I really loved my Z5C until it slowed down after just a few months of regular usage. Overheating is another issue, when it heats up, the performance is reduced significantly, and some apps might crash or not respond. It also depends on the usage since I am a heavy user and install way too much apps, probably one of the reasons of the phone slowing down, but I still love my Z5C. Though I've been looking at phones to upgrade soon since the thermal throttling and the device when in constant use, really heats up and is not comfortable to the touch. I think I'll upgrade to an iPhone this time, but if I will choose to stay all Sony and Android, I might get the newer X Performance, or if other brands, Samsung Galaxy S7, or OnePlus 3. xD But those are only my options, I still love my Z5C because of it's size with it's 4.6 inches display, only the iPhone 6S or 7 could come next.

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I wish there was a good alternative to the Z5 c but if you want a small water resistant device with good specs that's really about it. Not much else out there that checks those boxes.
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Similar here.
I use the phone as a nav system on a motorcycle so the waterproofing is a hugely important factor, and I much prefer the smaller size (Had an Xperia Z in the past and that was a little too large).
Which Sony products are now continuing the fully waterproof (IP67 or better) standard now?

Unfortunately there aren't great smaller factor devices, but I found out that huawei p10 is really narrow, 5" but still acceptable.
So I would go with huawei p10 or new/old pixel

Riceburner said:
Similar here.
I use the phone as a nav system on a motorcycle so the waterproofing is a hugely important factor, and I much prefer the smaller size (Had an Xperia Z in the past and that was a little too large).
Which Sony products are now continuing the fully waterproof (IP67 or better) standard now?
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Good news if you can wait a bit and don't mind buying new. Sony gets their act straight and the dust/water rating is back on the next gen Xperia compact!
Xperia ZX1 C

psouth said:
Good news if you can wait a bit and don't mind buying new. Sony gets their act straight and the dust/water rating is back on the next gen Xperia compact!
Xperia ZX1 C
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Looks perfect for me. Not fussed about a 720p screen. Hope it's still around when my EE upgrade date arrives next year!

Is the compact line dead?

Leaks for all other phones are all over the place but nothing ever gets leaked for Sony phones (save for maybe 2 days before announcement). Any body remember if Sony made any comments about the future of compact line? I just put my pixel back in the drawer and started using my z3 compact (trying out lineage os 7.1.2). Such an awesome phone, perfect size and battery. Almost pulled the trigger on xc, but the thought of mid range specs (particularly no water proof) kept me from buying it. Wish they released a compact version of XZs, without any compromises, except for thickness which is understandable and acceptable. That would be perfect....

flintfirewalker said:
Leaks for all other phones are all over the place but nothing ever gets leaked for Sony phones (save for maybe 2 days before announcement). Any body remember if Sony made any comments about the future of compact line? I just put my pixel back in the drawer and started using my z3 compact (trying out lineage os 7.1.2). Such an awesome phone, perfect size and battery. Almost pulled the trigger on xc, but the thought of mid range specs (particularly no water proof) kept me from buying it. Wish they released a compact version of XZs, without any compromises, except for thickness which is understandable and acceptable. That would be perfect....
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the x compact is still a very capable phone. i think sony didnt release a x compact successor, because it's without competition. if you want a small android phone, you're gonna get the x compact. and i haven't regretted it.

tempurastyle said:
the x compact is still a very capable phone. i think sony didnt release a x compact successor, because it's without competition. if you want a small android phone, you're gonna get the x compact. and i haven't regretted it.
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Right, exactly, it's like they know they don't have to push the limit and make the best, coz they don't have any competition. It's a niche market already with a smaller number of buyers to win over, so they are doing the minimum required. (I'm not counting the iPhone se, coz ios folks will buy iphone se and Android folks will buy Xperia compact). But where they excelled was making the very best phone possible, but in a compact smaller screen format. That seems to have changed starting x series (assuming compact line isn't​ dead altogether).
I remember reading some review that claimed Sony said their compact buyers don't care for performance, they care more for battery and camera in smaller form factor. If that is true, then compact line is dead for me. A mid range cpu like 650 may be capable, but it's not future proof and won't age very well. I wish another company would enter the compact market and infuse some competition.

I tend to agree: I'm afraid sony is going to "non hi-end" devices for their compacts, which I do not prefer.
Nevertheless the X compact is a very good device, and regarding water proof ...
The real downside I see is the lack of interest on latest sony devices, compared to the Z series era (I mean from developers, so less mods and customizations).

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Right, exactly, it's like they know they don't have to push the limit and make the best, coz they don't have any competition. It's a niche market already with a smaller number of buyers to win over, so they are doing the minimum required. (I'm not counting the iPhone se, coz ios folks will buy iphone se and Android folks will buy Xperia compact). But where they excelled was making the very best phone possible, but in a compact smaller screen format. That seems to have changed starting x series (assuming compact line isn't​ dead altogether).
I remember reading some review that claimed Sony said their compact buyers don't care for performance, they care more for battery and camera in smaller form factor. If that is true, then compact line is dead for me. A mid range cpu like 650 may be capable, but it's not future proof and won't age very well. I wish another company would enter the compact market and infuse some competition.
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I agree with you that the compact line went from high end back to medium specs. But the 650 processor runs well on this phone and the battery life is nice too. In some Youtube videos the X compact beat some flagship phones on side by side speed tests, I forgot which though. The screen resolution may be 720, but I don't see a difference to the last Quad HD display phone I owned (V10). In general the CPUs in phones have hit a peak, like laptop or computer CPUs. It's not like back in the days when you needed the fastest CPU to get the most out of your device. My laptop runs on a Core M, it's 3 years old, and still works great. I don't think our phones will need any higher processing power. The future will rely on software optimization, just look what Apple is doing with minimal specs and great software. And the future will be about picking which manufacturer releases the newest Android OS version the fastest. Besides the Pixel phones, Sony is doing a superb job recently. It's the first manufacturer to release Android 7.1.1, although it's limited on 2 phones at the moment. If you look at the X compact and which updates the phone has been receiving, you will see that Sony treats it as a flagship model, because the updates are very consistent and fast. I'm sure 7.1.1 for the X compact is just around the corner. I have spent much more money on real flagship phones from Samsung, LG and HTC, but they all fail to deliver updates on time.

I agree that sony should have used a more high end cpu on x compact but I must say the performance on this phone is like nothing I have seen before! so the only thing I dont like about it is being 28nm and not lower.
Also about waterproofing I can assure you that this phone is water proof:
-The phone size and weight is exactly the same as the waterproof model which is released in Japan only.
-There is a youtube video testing the phone with cocacola
-I accidentally dropped my phone into water and I wasnt able to take it out for about 15mins and the phone didnt take a bit of damage(But I turned it of after that and let is sleep in rice for a little time because it didnt have warranty anyway)
So I would recommend you to go for it and Im sure the first thing that catches your eye would be the screen quality
I hope in future sony releases another capable compact phone with less screen bezzels and borders...

Compact line is 100% fine, only released 1x per year in the fall.
Only the A4 broke this tradition ( which was a re-release of the Z3 compact in plastic vs glass )
http://www.sonymobile.co.jp/xperia/docomo/so-04g/
Next Xperia compact coming in September.

I have my xc for a month now. I'm surprised it's the most satisfying phone. I never thought a mid range phone was enough for me. It is. This phone flies, even compared fine to an iPhone 6s. You really don't need SD820, 821 unless you're a gamer which I'm not. Sony's thin Android skin means I'm not missing any native Android functions. I now only get compact phones, width less than 70mm. I'll definitely buy the next Sony compact phone.
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Personally I have no need to upgrade a phone every year, or 4-6 months like some other brands. This is getting ridonculous - what ever happened to making a device last more than 3 years (even by the community, if not by the manufacturer)? Look at the HTC HD2 as a good example of device obsolescence.
That's a phone that was released in November 2009, initially using Windows Phone. 7 years, still has XDA support to the day, very efficient use of developer resources.
Devices have been barely incremental upgrades over the past 3 years.
Gadget Stockholm syndrome should be a term added to the vernacular, it's really a sad state (non-removable batteries are not an excuse either).
The spirit of XDA is keeping a device ALIVE.

For those interested, X compact was first leaked around end of august (around 23-27 august). Compact series always released in 2nd half of the year with the exception of Z1 compact which is released feb 2014, but have the japanese version released earlier at the end of 2013

Compacts are released once per year every fall with the exception of the A4, which was basically a Z3 compact with a plastic back, which was released alongside the Z4 two years ago.
X compact is amazing, anything beyond this build would have been unnecessary Overkill, especially when you take into account the Japan Home Market and the intended consumer it's built for originally. Xperia phones are not built for worldwide consumers at all, they are very much crafted for the Japanese consumer and then just happen to be released in other parts of the world after the fact.

Here is the latest news:
http://www.gsmarena.com/specs_for_sony_xperia_xz1_xz1_compact_and_x1_leak-news-25138.php

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Here is the latest news:
http://www.gsmarena.com/specs_for_sony_xperia_xz1_xz1_compact_and_x1_leak-news-25138.php
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Moving on, the XZ1 Compact will also be powered by a Snapdragon 835 SoC, and will sport a 4.6-inch HD display. RAM will be 4GB, while a 2,800mAh battery will be tasked with keeping the lights on.
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Unless other phone models by Sony have done this, going to say this rumour is salty. Otherwise this doesn't make sense.
Mine even last for 5 days with lower brightness. No alarm clocks, No vibration, No sound, No Wifi, no bluetooth. No background apps running such as location services are off. 3G/4G data off. Pure call and text usage.
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Commenting on a comment from this article - but I never understood why people buy expensive flagship devices for features then feel the need to turn it all off, making it as useful as an old T9 phone (when it can be done for much less coin). It makes no sense.

volcolm said:
Unless other phone models by Sony have done this, going to say this rumour is salty. Otherwise this doesn't make sense.
Commenting on a comment from this article - but I never understood why people buy expensive flagship devices for features then feel the need to turn it all off, making it as useful as an old T9 phone (when it can be done for much less coin). It makes no sense.
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Z1 compact does have same SoC and RAM as Z1, so having XZ1c with same SoC and RAM as proper XZ1 is not out of the question. However sony just increased the ram from 2gb to 3gb from z5c to xc, while it stagnated between z1c to z5c. Will they increase it again so soon? Even the proper flagship stagnated the RAM (3GB) between Z2 to XZ
But yeah that one looks more of a hope. A hope of what would be a no compromise compact phone: return of highend end SoC, same RAM, maybe even throw the certified water proof back as well.
PS: tbf I usually turn my old phone into glorified media player with airplane mode, but only after i have newer phone. People need to realise that there is middle ground for battery vs feature. But People sometime just go extreme on saving battery.

i was hoping for next model with <=14nm cpu (660?), but im not so sure if there will be anything at all after reading this:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/05/2...expect-a-successor-to-xperia-x-and-x-compact/
650 is still capable processor and i might just purchase kugo if there is indeed none upcoming, but i hope to be proven wrong about that...