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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick

seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.

radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's

radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

Can I install CM on non-KNOX bootloader?

Currently I'm on a Pre-rooted stock ROM and would really like to update as stock OTA is not working.
Info:
Model : GT-I9505
Android : 4.2.2
Baseband : I9505XXUBMGA
Kernel : 3.4.0-1081224
Build number : JDQ39.I9505XXUBMGA
So, I don't have the newer bootloader with KNOX yet.
Further, I already installed CWM 6.0.4.4 recovery
My questions:
Can I simply install CM10.2.1 or CM 11.2 through CWM?
Or do I have to update the bootloader first or does it include in CM?
Is there a catch in updating my phone concerning KNOX and chance of bricking?
I'm I stuck on CM or can I always revert to my backup of rooted stock 4.2.2?
Thanx in advance for any help.
I searched, but couldn't find correct answers...

Yes you can just install cm but if you try to install newer touchwiz roms then you need to change your modem. And wrong section....
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pvdwaal said:
Currently I'm on a Pre-rooted stock ROM and would really like to update as stock OTA is not working.
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Post this on HERE & you will get help you need there?
This is for ROM Dev only & you'll only get shouted at LOL

Alttwo said:
Yes you can just install cm but if you try to install newer touchwiz roms then you need to change your modem. And wrong section....
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
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So KNOX is all about stock Samsung ROMs?
And I don't need an updated bootloader for all other ROMs like CM and OMEGA and can switch between them without issues?

yes.

pvdwaal said:
So KNOX is all about stock Samsung ROMs?
And I don't need an updated bootloader for all other ROMs like CM and OMEGA and can switch between them without issues?
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Knox is basically a counter to counter rooters. You should be able to flash any ROM like normal but there may be some changed needed to be done for the modem. I'm sure there are multiple threads about the i9505 modems...
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[Q] Questions on installing CWM

Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk

georgesmh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
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Thank you!

SKELLUP said:
Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!
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Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone

verny94 said:
Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone
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Yeah i am aware of that, btw does it matter if im using Odin v. 1.85? Does it have to be 3.x or so?
Edit: Sry the Odin i have is Odin3 v.1.85

Stock NG1 rom/root confusion

hey everyone couple of questions
im currently on stock nb7 with lean kernel
im getting some issues so i want to go back to scratch. ive seen on sam updates this is the latest version for BTU N9005XXUGNG1. is this the latest one?
im wondering if BTU s the correct one for me? im currently using btu and have been since ive gotten this phone. (just something id like to confirm.)
also ive seen a few threads about issues rooting NG1? this is the thread im referring to,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150.
ive already tripped knox as soon as i got this phone so im not concerned with that.
the method i know for flashing stock is,
1.open odin 3
2.connect phone (just did that and odin sees 0:com5 (so thats good)
3. click on pda and load the tar/md5 file and click start
4. to root, load cf auto root file in pda mode and click send
5. flash twrp via mobile odin
any mistakes?
edit: also and rom recommendations, i currently looking at bobcat,echoe,x-note, x-note s5 port

thedan55 said:
hey everyone couple of questions
im currently on stock nb7 with lean kernel
im getting some issues so i want to go back to scratch. ive seen on sam updates this is the latest version for BTU N9005XXUGNG1. is this the latest one?
im wondering if BTU s the correct one for me? im currently using btu and have been since ive gotten this phone. (just something id like to confirm.)
also ive seen a few threads about issues rooting NG1? this is the thread im referring to,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150.
ive already tripped knox as soon as i got this phone so im not concerned with that.
the method i know for flashing stock is,
1.open odin 3
2.connect phone (just did that and odin sees 0:com5 (so thats good)
3. click on pda and load the tar/md5 file and click start
4. to root, load cf auto root file in pda mode and click send
5. flash twrp via mobile odin
any mistakes?
edit: also and rom recommendations, i currently looking at bobcat,echoe,x-note, x-note s5 port
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The method done in your link was to enable the use of towelroot which does not trip knox when rooting. But at the same time it does not work on new firmwares like the NG1. BTU is fine, but if you want to try other ones then there are some ROMS with multi-csc via aroma. I'm no longer into TW roms, but was on XNote v16 before, pretty good for me.
Sent from my SM-N9005

jdgamble said:
The method done in your link was to enable the use of towelroot which does not trip knox when rooting. But at the same time it does not work on new firmwares like the NG1. BTU is fine, but if you want to try other ones then there are some ROMS with multi-csc via aroma. I'm no longer into TW roms, but was on XNote v16 before, pretty good for me.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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so to root NG1 i use odin 3 and cf auto root correct?? what rom are you currently using? whats the use of multi csc?

thedan55 said:
so to root NG1 i use odin 3 and cf auto root correct?? what rom are you currently using? whats the use of multi csc?
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Well since you've already tripped knox then yes, cf autoroot is a go. Wait, how did you triP knox and not be rooted? Do you have custom recovery? if yes, then some ROMS come pre-rooted and can be flashed through custom recovery. I'm on Temasek CM11, rock solid stable rom. About csc, i suggest staying with your current csc which is BTU.
Sent from my SM-N9005

jdgamble said:
Well since you've already tripped knox then yes, cf autoroot is a go. Wait, how did you triP knox and not be rooted? Do you have custom recovery? if yes, then some ROMS come pre-rooted and can be flashed through custom recovery. I'm on Temasek CM11, rock solid stable rom. About csc, i suggest staying with your current csc which is BTU.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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No I am rooted and I have a custom recovery. You mean some stock roms come pre rooted? That would be helpful. Just flash through recovery. Doesn't flashing the official stock, update more, like the bootloader etc. Would flashing a stock rooted room be the same as flashing official

thedan55 said:
No I am rooted and I have a custom recovery. You mean some stock roms come pre rooted? That would be helpful. Just flash through recovery. Doesn't flashing the official stock, update more, like the bootloader etc. Would flashing a stock rooted room be the same as flashing official
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No, custom ROMS come pre-rooted. Flashing official from Samsung should always be done via odin. Now, flashing custom rom can be done through custom recovery or depends on the instruction of the developer.
Sent from my SM-N9005

Yeah. Thought you were talking about official. Cool thanks for the help.

[Q] As a first timer on samsung what do i need to do ?

Hey guys i just bought this international exynos note 3 (N900) and i have some questions about it ;
1. I want to install all the roms kernels and mods i could find but in order to do that (I'm %100 stock btw) ,do i need to first unlock the device ( i dont know how i couldnt find it), then root it with CF- Auto root( my warranty is over so i dont need to think about KNOX i think??) Then use the dd method to flash a recovery and flash whatever i want. Am i right about the things i said on all above ? Is there an easier way to do it ?
2. Do KNOX ever prevents me from flashing things in ODIN if something gets triggered ?
3. If i am not right about the first question starting from %100 stock what do i need to do to get this baby rockin ? I'm thinking about flashing a stock lollipop rom with a custom kernel and root ofc. Any suggestions ?
4. Do we need to flash modems from odin ? Because when reading the AryaMods thread i saw something about updating the modem. I'm on 4.4.2 right now. Can we flash modems or even kernels from recovery ?
Thanks already!!

ymcc said:
Hey guys i just bought this international note 3 and i have some questions about it ;
1. I want to install all the roms kernels and mods i could find but in order to do that (I'm %100 stock btw) ,do i need to first unlock the device ( i dont know how i couldnt find it), then root it with CF- Auto root( my warranty is over so i dont need to think about KNOX i think??) Then use the dd method to flash a recovery and flash whatever i want. Am i right about the things i said on all above ? Is there an easier way to do it ?
2. Do KNOX ever prevents me from flashing things in ODIN if something gets triggered ?
3. If i am not right about the first question starting from %100 stock what do i need to do to get this baby rockin ? I'm thinking about flashing a stock lollipop rom with a custom kernel and root ofc. Any suggestions ?
4. Do we need to flash modems from odin ? Because when reading the AryaMods thread i saw something about updating the modem. I'm on 4.4.2 right now. Can we flash modems or even kernels from recovery ?
Thanks already!!
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Care to mention what model?

kenny1991 said:
Care to mention what model?
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Sorry my bad it's a N9000 Exynos device.
Thanks !

ymcc said:
Sorry my bad it's a N9000 Exynos device.
Thanks !
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There is no much of roms to choose for this one. 9005 is most supported here.
Root using cf auto root.
Make back up of ta partion/imei.
Flash recovery with odin. Then flash roms in twrp (watch the ere about how to use twrp or YT).
flash stock roms using odin.

Can't i just flash recovery from odin then flash a custom rom after that without rooting ? Thanks!

ymcc said:
Can't i just flash recovery from odin then flash a custom rom after that without rooting ? Thanks!
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If you are going to flash roms based on lollipop, update your phone to latest stock rom for your model using odin so you get latest bootloader.
Dude, you need root access to access system and write to it. Don't custom roms require root, if you take a look? (don't answer to this [emoji61] )
If you want that way, flash twrp with ? odin. Then flash supersu for your model using twrp. That way too you get root. Then flash roms after (read rom instructions).
Ask if all wondering. ?
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kenny1991 said:
If you are going to flash roms based on lollipop, update your phone to latest stock rom for your model using odin so you get latest bootloader.
Dude, you need root access to access system and write to it. Don't custom roms require root, if you take a look? (don't answer to this [emoji61] )
If you want that way, flash twrp with odin. Then flash supersu for your model using twrp. That way too you get root. Then flash roms after (read rom instructions).
Ask if all wondering.
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No my question was; not rooting the device in the first place before flashing the recovery and the rom. The roms already comes with the root in it. So just to be clear first upgrade the base to lollipop from odin then flash a recovery and lastly flash a lollipop rom. Would this be your sequence when you just bought a new note 3 ?

ymcc said:
No my question was; not rooting the device in the first place before flashing the recovery and the rom. The roms already comes with the root in it. So just to be clear first upgrade the base to lollipop from odin then flash a recovery and lastly flash a lollipop rom. Would this be your sequence when you just bought a new note 3 ?
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Flash latest firmware then custom recovery then flash the custom rom of your choice. No need to root after flash official firmware but it's good to root first as you may want to backup efs before you start messing the phone. I backed up the efs for the past 1.5years but so far never need it.
Sent from my SM-N9005

Rosli59564 said:
Flash latest firmware then custom recovery then flash the custom rom of your choice. No need to root after flash official firmware but it's good to root first as you may want to backup efs before you start messing the phone. I backed up the efs for the past 1.5years but so far never need it.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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Thanks you very much mate!
Edit: I couldn't find the 5.0 version for my device the latest one is 4.4.2 for SM-N900Q. But there are 5.0 versions for SM-N900 for india and such. Can i flash one of them ? Does it interfere with anything so like just for a base ?

ymcc said:
Thanks you very much mate!
Edit: I couldn't find the 5.0 version for my device the latest one is 4.4.2 for SM-N900Q. But there are 5.0 versions for SM-N900 for india and such. Can i flash one of them ? Does it interfere with anything so like just for a base ?
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Then it's the latest. Don't flash other variants roms cause it will brick your ?.

kenny1991 said:
Then it's the latest. Don't flash other variants roms cause it will brick your .
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Ok. Thank you !