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[Q] Banchmarks and reality

Hi. I have my HD2 with android 4.0.4 with HWA. My friend has Galaxy mini with 2.3.7 (CM7 rom). And he has better 2D and 3D score in all benchmarks. Why? I don't think Galaxy is so new and so better than HWA HD2... So are the benchmarks lying or I have really worse performance?
And questions to devs or people who understand it: why I have 5000 points in I/O on Dorimanx's CM7 rom and on 4.0.4 HWA I have 1000?

Galaxy mini has only 320x240 resolution, so it has a better score.

OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.

kubekpop said:
OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.
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With dorimanxs ROM you must of had data 2 ext enabled so the io scores were that high because of your memory card and on ics you are using your internal memory which is slower than ext4 partitions
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kubekpop said:
OK, but shouldn't I have better CPU and GPU (I mean Adreno) to process more stuff? But ok, I am not grumbling, I was just curious.
And what with that I/O speed? Because in HWA roms write and read is very very slow.
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TBH, benchmarks mean nothing. All that really matters is the end user experience. If you're satisfied with the performance then it really couldn't matter less what you get in benchmarks. Think about it this way, a Galaxy mini might get a higher benchmark but could you really live with a tiny low res screen and TouchWiz (vs almost ANYTHING on the HD2)?

Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?

kubekpop said:
Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?
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Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?

elesbb said:
Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?
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I've been trying to get GTA3 running too. Even after setting the governor to performance and details to minimum driving wasn't possible. Does anyone know how to do it? Should we increase volts?

I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).

kubekpop said:
I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).
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Dunno why but for me on Typhoon CM7 there was no difference between 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz so I doubt there will be for CM9 either. I can give a +1 to GTA running poorly despite what others say.

kubekpop said:
Thank you guys. I am happy about your answers. That's right. Mini has too small screen.
And one more thing: people (like Rick_1995) can play GTA 3 smoothly. I have still lags. I am not requiering 60fps, but ability of playing it comfortable Am I doing something wrong?
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Nigeldg said:
Dunno why but for me on Typhoon CM7 there was no difference between 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz so I doubt there will be for CM9 either. I can give a +1 to GTA running poorly despite what others say.
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GTA3 on my phone:
elesbb said:
Possibly that he is overclocking and you arent?
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CPU running at 998MHz (no OC), I'm using unreleased drivers so it could be them.
Daycrawler said:
I've been trying to get GTA3 running too. Even after setting the governor to performance and details to minimum driving wasn't possible. Does anyone know how to do it? Should we increase volts?
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voltage wouldn't make a difference.
kubekpop said:
I cannot overclock above 1.2GHz (I don't know why won't they add 1.6GHz from Dorimanx kernel).
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How can you tell that the cpu is really running at 1.6GHz and the kernel is just not faking it ? Qualcomm, the company which made the cpu never released any info about how cpu is clocked in hardware, or the pll limits, the multiplier limits, what internal clock logic checks for etc..

Are they going to be released?

Rick_1995 said:
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That's how it runs on my phone as well. I definitely don't define that as smooth. I've played it on my Mum's Desire S and it was far better, with a much higher framerate and better resolution (although that's probably due to the smaller screen) so I personally expect more from the game. Also, what about Real Racing? Happen to have a video of that? Because I've heard that's supposed to work without lag but it most certainly doesn't (Raging Thunder and NFS: Shift do but Real Racing doesn't). On a side note, thanks so much for all of the work you've been doing to keep this phone alive, without people like you in the community this phone would be completely dead

[Q] gm-A500-RC3 Kernel from Linuxsociety

Great Job Linuxsociety. Would like to know how to perform GPU overclocking - thanks

lcaro said:
Great Job Linuxsociety. Would like to know how to perform GPU overclocking - thanks
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GPU overclocking is included on most kernels.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
GPU overclocking is included on most kernels.
MD
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Is there anyway to change the setting ?

lcaro said:
Is there anyway to change the setting ?
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Probably via a script. BTW, he's released some more testing kernels with GPU tweaks if you're interested.
As far as running scripts from init.d, you may want his advice on this, as he knows his kernel.
MD

Kernel/ROM etc.... features that we need

this thread is meant for everyone thats making a kernel or ROM so you know what features that everyone wants
The things we need
ROOT duh
ALL-F2FS FS support
NTFS FS support
CPU Governors
GPU Governors
GPU overclocking
CPU overclocking
RAM overclocking if we can
Dual boot ROM/Kernels and 64bit Ubuntu
any more ideas?

MultiBoot! Kexec?

joshuabg said:
MultiBoot! Kexec?
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I have that one listed

Under voltage's battery's current 6700mah to say 6200 for extended battery life!
Under volatage CPU/GPU
Aroma?
Sweep2wake
Sweep2sleep
This is alot to ask, but good luck!

Multiwindow

MRobbo80 said:
Under voltage's battery's current 6700mah to say 6200 for extended battery life!
Under volatage CPU/GPU
Aroma?
Sweep2wake
Sweep2sleep
This is alot to ask, but good luck!
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Haha well ty
I don't even like s2w and s2s lol

USBhost said:
Haha well ty
I don't even like s2w and s2s lol
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Tuff luck! Its what others like :good:

PIE control

Most important one.. Stability. Needs to be stable, and have a few minor tweaks, it all depends on how the stock kernel is though.. HTC Stock kernels tend to be pretty sweet anyway and just need a few features added IMO.

Have been told that the CPU is way under clocked @2.3,GHz and could handle 3.00ghz easy! Note that this is a rumour, but if true wow!
Really looking forward to it now!

Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
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Jonnyredcorn said:
Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Im sure some of the big boys will come

USBhost said:
Im sure some of the big boys will come
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At the price probably only if the device is donated. I'm sure the size is off putting for them.

USB-OTG and USB-Audio support would be stellar (if not included as standard)
:good:

I would love to see the GPU and CPU overclocking as well as over/under volt for both for maximum tuning capability. The other things I would like to see though are RAM and bus overclocking access since with so many GPU cores if we get to overclocking we may need some more in those areas too so we can take full advantage of the higher core MHz

EniGmA1987 said:
I would love to see the GPU and CPU overclocking as well as over/under volt for both for maximum tuning capability. The other things I would like to see though are RAM and bus overclocking access since with so many GPU cores if we get to overclocking we may need some more in those areas too so we can take full advantage of the higher core MHz
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Yep your so right

Will the LTE version have more or less ROM/kernel support?

tyvar1 said:
Will the LTE version have more or less ROM/kernel support?
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Hmm
i would think it wont be as much as the wifi only version
Lets hope the kernel is the same but with just some extra drivers

Jonnyredcorn said:
Um everything you listed is stuff that is the norm for custom kernels. Wonder if well see Franco or faux or flar here...im still really on the fence.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I'm 99.9% sure we will see a lot of big boys!! See what they can do with the k1

MRobbo80 said:
I'm 99.9% sure we will see a lot of big boys!! See what they can do with the k1
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But i do have my doubts
because what happened to the shield tablet

CM 12.1/13 Kernel that supports GPU overclock

is there a cm 12.1/13 kernel that would let me overclock the GPU and RAM bus as well and not just the CPU ? been skimming through the forum to no avail, currently on teamsek cm 13, it's great but i can't overclock the GPU and bus using it's supplied kernel, i'm even willing to downgrade to cm 12.1 if such a kernel exists for cm 12.1

Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
Sent from my SM-N920C

Rosli59564 said:
Never heard about oc the ram in a phone.
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how about the gpu ?

You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
Sent from my SM-N920C

Rosli59564 said:
You can try to oc gpu using synapse or similar apps but people say there won't be any difference by oc'ing gpu.
Sent from my SM-N920C
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but then the kernel has to support gpu oc, other wise synapse won't work, i would just like to push the frequencies on the gpu to snap dragon 801 level

no more inputs ?

Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...

emuandco said:
Maan, you are still trying to OC the GPU?? I answered you 2 times already. IT IS OF NO USE! GPU OC will even slow things down due to heating up like hell! RAM connection is the bottleneck in our case, so it won't help at all, except your goal is the kill the phone to buy a new one very quickly...
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you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...

skyboyextreme said:
you know that ram bandwidth is not that far off from the 801 models ...
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Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^

emuandco said:
Feel free to continue searching for it and then be disappointed. I warned you ^^
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ok thank you for the input, goodluck

overclocking, modifying the kernel

I want to learn how I can modify kernel to adjust clock speeds. wt88047 redmi 2 . If anyone can detail the steps it would be great
Thank you

jsidney96 said:
I want to learn how I can modify kernel to adjust clock speeds. wt88047 redmi 2 . If anyone can detail the steps it would be great
Thank you
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Overclock dont work on redmi 2, all overclocks are fake

NaassomDourado said:
Overclock dont work on redmi 2, all overclocks are fake
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Yep, except GPU overclock by me and Ashish94, the true 620mhz and the TurboClock 465T increase ~35% the gaming performance, games like asphalt 8 will run at 8 or 9 fps higher with the Overclock

TecnoTailsPlays said:
Yep, except GPU overclock by me and Ashish94, the true 620mhz and the TurboClock 465T increase ~35% the gaming performance, games like asphalt 8 will run at 8 or 9 fps higher with the Overclock
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You can select upto 1.8ghz on the zetsubo kernel , thats fake??

It feels smoother once overclocked.........

jsidney96 said:
You can select upto 1.8ghz on the zetsubo kernel , thats fake??
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Fake

TecnoTailsPlays said:
Fake
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I dont believe it, atleast tell me the fake steps
Those kernels heats up and locks up if i set too high cpu clk..... I know it can be overclocked..

jsidney96 said:
I want to learn how I can modify kernel to adjust clock speeds. wt88047 redmi 2 . If anyone can detail the steps it would be great
Thank you
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i'd suggest you to try lateautumn kernel, it boosts your CPU freq to 1.8ghz and it seems like it worked for me, battery drained so fast tho...

rufuskid said:
i'd suggest you to try lateautumn kernel, it boosts your CPU freq to 1.8ghz and it seems like it worked for me, battery drained so fast tho...
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I want to learn how to do it....

jsidney96 said:
I dont believe it, atleast tell me the fake steps
Those kernels heats up and locks up if i set too high cpu clk..... I know it can be overclocked..
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Look, I'm tired from explaining that CPU overcloks are fake, just freaking search about snapdragon 410, the processor is LOCKED, PLL overclock is not possible without external source file help, only Moto g3 osprey have this file, when somebody port's that file to our source, I will be wrong
Also if you don't even know how to overclock a device, how can you say that I'm wrong?

jsidney96 said:
I want to learn how to do it....
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download kernel adiutor and you will have the option there (with the custom kernel applied)

TecnoTailsPlays said:
Look, I'm tired from explaining that CPU overcloks are fake, just freaking search about snapdragon 410, the processor is LOCKED, PLL overclock is not possible without external source file help, only Moto g3 osprey have this file, when somebody port's that file to our source, I will be wrong
Also if you don't even know how to overclock a device, how can you say that I'm wrong?
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I am sorry . Its just i couldnt believe it .... I will try to do something useful

jsidney96 said:
I am sorry . Its just i couldnt believe it .... I will try to do something useful
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Something useful? Why don't you try arm64 aosp caf by pirej and see how the rom is? we need more people to log some bugs like wifi 10m off, etc

TecnoTailsPlays said:
Something useful? Why don't you try arm64 aosp caf by pirej and see how the rom is? we need more people to log some bugs like wifi 10m off, etc
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saw this.....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-2/help/compiling-kernel-development-overclock-t3538273
I am having exams now..... i will jumb right back in once exams are over..... i am already running pirej's rom on 2014818....
i am still learning

jsidney96 said:
saw this.....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-2/help/compiling-kernel-development-overclock-t3538273
I am having exams now..... i will jumb right back in once exams are over..... i am already running pirej's rom on 2014818....
i am still learning
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At that time I din't know anything about this phone, becouse I just had buyed it, then I started spending 8hrs in the computer to study kernels, redmi 2, and all related to source, android, etc. Then I started making overclocks, and after 2 weeks of testing I completed my results and overclock was fake.
It's like school or college, you need to study to understand

Which ROM is best to be used with late autumn kernel. When I install late autumn kernel on any ROM ,the camera stops working.

LuanHalaiko said:
Look, I'm tired from explaining that CPU overcloks are fake, just freaking search about snapdragon 410, the processor is LOCKED, PLL overclock is not possible without external source file help, only Moto g3 osprey have this file, when somebody port's that file to our source, I will be wrong
Also if you don't even know how to overclock a device, how can you say that I'm wrong?
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Sounds like a stage I'm currently going through, are there any recommended resources for learning?
The main direction is to reverse the kernel code for the purpose of changing system settings