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I'm a new member with Questions about my HD2

Well, it's more than just questions.
I have the HD2 and I really enjoy it. Think it's a great piece of hardware. WM6.5 gets the job done for the most part, but I can understand some of the concerns with the OS. It's good to hear that you guys are already working on WM7 and the port to this phone!
Truth is, I put my coin in google's corner, so I'm hoping that Android finds its way into the HD2 via T Mobile.
I'm a bit tech savy, been involved with computer animation and can build computers as well. I thought I ask about the learning curve when it comes to development on PDA's such as mine. With the drop of Android, I flirted with the idea of learning code.
Is Android Linux based?
You guys hear anything about Android getting a port to this phone? I've done the google search and can only find the sprint version of HD2 with Android installed. That does nothing for TMobile customers.
I read up a bit on XDA and they appear legit. My concern is code being used for identity theft. Anyone have bad experiences with XDA and the software that is released here for share? Does the software under go some sort of QA before it's provided for download?
I have no problem with donations, trust is what earns my donations...fair enough, right?
Ultimately, I really like this phone and look forward to further enhancing it...I hear XDA is the place to be!
Thanks guys/gals.

FAQ's and sticky threads are your friend as is google.
Try reading abit, get a feel for the site.. Then ask..

Yes Winmo7 is being ported to the touch HD, though at the moment it's sluggish due to lack of graphical acceleration (and not really something i"m excited by since it doesn't have copy and paste and no multitasking. IMHO it's really more like an iphone/toy meant for none-techy people).
I don't expect an official update/ROM for the HD2 with android to ever be released by htc/tmobile. However, I would be surprised if one wasn't ported by xda from other devices (like nexus/evo 4g).
Yes, android is unix based. (develepment done in java (for upper stuff) and C (for lower stuff)).
Anything you download and install from xda you do so at your own risk. However, I would argue that the risk is minimal (almost none existent) as long as you follow directions and read posts. The only thing that can brick your phone is a failed radio/SPL update/change. Anything else can be cured by a hard reset.
(and what kable said)

As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads

ephestione said:
As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads
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Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!

Devils1stBorn said:
Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!
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oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums

ephestione said:
oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums
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Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.

Devils1stBorn said:
Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.
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If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated. T-Mobile US Rom Development Forum
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!

Hi,
A bit irrrelevant to reply here, but I did not any other place. Have been following this forum for quite sometime. Been around with windows mobile app development for sometime. But what really interest me is when people from this forum tweaks Rom image or port to other harware. Here things look quite easy. Is it really easy? I saw one single person tweaking a ROM image and porting to different hardware?
Hope I have not offended anyone.
- Herojit

Toss3 said:
If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated.
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!
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Thanks. And no, it only allows me to uninstall apps I've installed after the initial setup. I've been through system files and the sorts and I can only find icons and other "blah" that's not the actual install directory. I show all the hidden files and still, can't find it.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to Android. Don't need the dual boot. Just a solid port with solid drivers.

Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit

herojits said:
Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit
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Say what?
What's with your post?

OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!

FloatHeavy said:
OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!
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Epic fail.

one thing that has been alittle pain is how the albums are viewed. i created an album for videos, yet when i view I can't have a name of the file visable, just a thumbnail. that doesn't work well at all. works fine with pictures cuz what you see is what you. videos start with a black screen; becomes a guessing game. am i missing something?

[Q] OS Porting/Emulating

Heyho fellas!
As this is my second post.. and first thread.. I would like to take a second to introduce myself a bit
As my nick states I call myself "Puenos", and after visiting this place for quite a while, I've finally decided to register here too!
Enough chitchat, here's my [Q]:
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I've recently read quite a lot about ppl asking for a port of WinMo for Android..and after some reading I realised something..
Besides those simple answers asking ppl WHY somebody would want that, most arguments where about how legit it was.. Because WinMo is closed source..
Well... I'm no dev or anything like that.. I'm simple wondering about a few ppl, their ideas and find myself thinking about something abstract myself.. sooo...
QUESTION:
What do you think about ports of
Basilisk II - an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator
--> There's even a port for Sony PSP and it's quite fun to use it
and before you ask..
AFAIK! Apple provides downloads for the old classic system discs without any charges legally! (correct me if I'm wrong pls..)
Link would be basilisk.cebix.net/
Maemo/MeeGo - an open source, Linux project
-->As Nokia is about to lauch their first MeeGo-Device I would believe it's quite an interesting idea
Link would be meego.com/about
Windows Mobile/Windows Mobile 7
--> Yeahyeah, I know.. closed source and well.. but there are already some Windows Mobile emus on the net I believe? Some even written in Java?
So there would exist a possibility to optimize Android's Java-Engine.. I mean.. the apps converting Java-files to Android-APK for more convient use so it would be possible to port some Java-emus?
I couldn't find the link to the Java-emulator now.. but by searching, I found this:
Link: downloadsquad.com/2008/03/02/microsoft-device-emulator-lets-you-run-windows-mobile-6-on-your/
So there seems to be an application for Windows to be called "Microsoft Device Emulator" which let's you test WinMo-Apps on your PC by emulating a WinMo-Device! Microsoft also seems to provide some ROM-Image to use for this Device Emulator as seen here:
Link: microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=38c46aa8-1dd7-426f-a913-4f370a65a582&DisplayLang=en
Again.. I know WinMo is not open source.. but as Microsoft seems to provide those ROMs.. I wonder if it's legit to use those ROMs to test a self-written or ported emulator for e.g. Android?
x86
Uh... there was a port of Bochs/Qemu for Android some while ago.. but the "port" was rather a proof of concept I think?
There was not much for me to do, using this port I got the same error messages I got using Dosbox, which I thought where problems due to usage of the DOS-environment..which I hoped to escape using this "Bochs/Qemu"-port..
But there's also a Java-emu for x86 architecture...called JPC!
More some kind of proof of concept too, but really interesting! At least for me!
But I somehow don't get along with FreeDOS...and can't seem to boot DSL, even though the applet on their website showed it working... but oh well..
Also, I was wondering if it's possible to run more Linux distros on Android using Bochs/Qemu.. but can't seem to get it to work by now...
Maybe it's just my fault :/
Bochs/Qemu for Android: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692682
JPC- Java x86 VM: jpc.sourceforge.net/home_home.html
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Well... that are my 0.02$.. Again.. I'm not a dev..nor do I have the massive knowledge other ppl have here.. Just thought I share some ideas and hope some ppl might find themself interested in working on something.. not necessaryly ports, stable emus are enough work I believe.. But yeah.. here you go!
Oh and well.. just for the people asking "why would you want that? WinMo/Linux/Whoeva is fo da **** 'n Android is da best, yo!" who seem to be present here..
Why not? This place is called "xda-DEVELOPERS" Why joining a website/community when you're not interested in changing/experimenting?
I believe that some people here should be more open to various things.. If you don't want to change a thing on your device.. why going through the effort even reading some topics here or buy such a versatile phone? Just use your old Nokia and play "snake" and call ppl &write messages!
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Uh and yeah.. I'm sorry if I did anything wrong.. used "search" and most infos are from this pages.. so I don't really think I've digged something old closed up again... and yeah.. links.. are not links without permission I do not have (new user and such ;3) but I hope the linked pages are alright to be linked.. if not.. I'm sorry guys
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So... I'm interested in your opinion! What do you guys think?

galaxy s2 2.3.6 I9100ZCKJ1

find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6
its
I9100ZCKJ1
rom feel very smooth , camera very good
link to pic
http://guide.hiapk.com/news/11212011/232157905_1.shtml
link to rom
link : http://bbs.hiapk.com/thread-2759153-1-1.html
you need to use odin

hettab said:
find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6 , i am flashing it right now , can others chek it
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Link? ROM? Any extra info at all helps here friend

hettab said:
find this rom in a Chinese site , they clam its 2.3.6 , i am flashing it right now , can others chek it
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Say goodbye to your phone because I bet you've got the wrong model fas it's probably the i9000G firmware as per the other thread(s) about it.
Why would you ask others to check it when;
a) You didn't give them a link
and
b) You're already flashing it?

There's 2.3.6 update for SII but AFAIK it's for at&t one..
but someone mentioned every SII got that..
update, found one.
http://vvcap.net/db/ztOJI1g_KaMbkhehJOCb.htp

Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.

Intratech said:
Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.
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There already is one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19792683

Intratech said:
Bwahahahaha! I'll wait for the "Omg! Halp meeeeeee! I brickeddddd mine fon!!!!" Thread.
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Thanks for the lolz.
I agree. Three.... two.... one.....

yes did it every thing look grate , every think works fine , except they replace the market by some Chinese warez

and no its for 9100 friend

What a fail. XXKI3 is Android 2.3.5 and has been out for ages.

yep but they some how incorporet the 2.3.6 up date , its realy fast very fast
cheek it by your self
there rom s are good i flashed a couple of them for the htc desire
the links are in the 1 st post , take a look

No thanks, I can do my own ROMs and tweaks thank you. Doubt I'll ever install anything found in a Chinese forum either as I prefer to be spyware, malware, rootkit and bot free. If it's not from a dev on here that I know it ain't going on my device.

take a look a that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13622963#post13622963
its one of there rom for htc desire here on xda

i just wanted for the dev out here to check it out may be use some tweaks from it
its a free platform isn't it

I9100ZCKJ1 sorry

Intratech said:
No thanks, I can do my own ROMs and tweaks thank you. Doubt I'll ever install anything found in a Chinese forum either as I prefer to be spyware, malware, rootkit and bot free. If it's not from a dev on here that I know it ain't going on my device.
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Intratech,
Greetings.
I have been following your great topics and tips for a while. So I thank you.
But I am little disturbed by this comment. No, I am not pulling the race card because I think you are not a racist. While I can understand you may not be familiar with my culture and it is right that there are many garbage, copycats in many forums, you have discounted the good works like in here do exist in many Chinese forums. Moreover, xda also has got enough clueless posts too.
From my first hand experience, there are some smart guys just like you and others in xda would write up tutorials, guidelines, organize the releases/requests of features/workflow, customizing the ROMs for specific Chinese markets and users. Some even tag with a MD5 hash for authentication. There are also "just rooted" stock ROMs... I have been using those and never have a single bot, malware, rootkit, spyware detected.
I hope you and others would not label all Chinese enthusiasts and developers as bad apples. Peace.

bravoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

howipig said:
Intratech,
Greetings.
I have been following your great topics and tips for a while. So I thank you.
But I am little disturbed by this comment. No, I am not pulling the race card because I think you are not a racist. While I can understand you may not be familiar with my culture and it is right that there are many garbage, copycats in many forums, you have discounted the good works like in here do exist in many Chinese forums. Moreover, xda also has got enough clueless posts too.
From my first hand experience, there are some smart guys just like you and others in xda would write up tutorials, guidelines, organize the releases/requests of features/workflow, customizing the ROMs for specific Chinese markets and users. Some even tag with a MD5 hash for authentication. There are also "just rooted" stock ROMs... I have been using those and never have a single bot, malware, rootkit, spyware detected.
I hope you and others would not label all Chinese enthusiasts and developers as bad apples. Peace.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to brand all Chinese and Russians as being bad, I'm just talking about getting something from a forum I don't know about. Being as I work in IT who know a small amount the security aspect of it, it makes me inherently sceptical of software from people I don't know especially when it comes from China, Russia and Eastern Europe.
I'm sure there are lots of talented Chinese, Eastern European and Russian developers right here on XDA and once I know them I wouldn't have a problem using their work, if I haven't already, but I still wouldn't get anything from a Chinese or Eastern European forum.... forum not the race/people.
As for Racism, if anyone tries to accuse of it they will probably get laughed at by anyone who knows me. I'd have a hard time living in my family if I was racist as I'm pretty sure we have the whole racial spectrum covered.

Intratech,
Thank you for your prompt response that clarifies where you stand. Granted it is only fair for you or anyone not to just take whatever available online without further scruntizing. At least, in your context, I can now understand you are more about exercising a necessary precaution. Especially when you do not know what exactly you are dealing with. To be honest, I would have become a hypocrite if I just do the same with other ROMs specifically customized for other markets than mine.
I think that we can call it a matter of principle and personal preference when choosing the right combo for each of us.
Once again, I appreciate your reply.

All users on the latest i9100G are already using the 2.3.6 out of the box, so it is available for SGS2 except not for the i9100 yet. The G already has this but words is that the firmware running on the G has a capped of 1008mhz on the CPU.

Wanting Suggestion....

I have recently start android Coding for application building.. I would like to know about the easiest way to learn android ... I don't know from where to start and what to study... Please help me ...

Why dont you search this forum? Already there are tons of thread with similar question and answered by @nikwen everytime.

vijai2011 said:
Why dont you search this forum? Already there are tons of thread with similar question and answered by @nikwen everytime.
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Haha. :laugh:
Yes, and another answer: Learn Java first. I used the Head First Java book for that. (I think I should charge them for always recommending that book. :laugh Then go on with an Android book. Online tutorials for Android which I recommend are the Vogella ones.

sourav025 said:
I have recently start android Coding for application building.. I would like to know about the easiest way to learn android ... I don't know from where to start and what to study... Please help me ...
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I recommend you have an app in mind that you would like to create. This will drive you to learn the elements needed to get the app developed.
Then I would either search xdadevelopers for solutions or google. A website that I have learn a lot from is vogella.com. But this is one site of many. Stackoverflow is an awesome resource.

hgpb said:
I recommend you have an app in mind that you would like to create. This will drive you to learn the elements needed to get the app developed.
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True. :good:
If it is an app which would be useful to you/ a tool you really need, you will learn even faster.

Book + Developer website
This book: amazon.com/Professional-Android-2-Application-Development/dp/0470565527 is very good, even for beginners, you dont need to read the entire book to understand the basics of android. It is very useful as guide too.
After understandings the basics of Android you find on official Android developer website: developer.android.com/develop/index.html all what you about the libraries, some coding methods, optimalization...

[Q] App Help

I think this is in the right topic area, but it was the closest I could find. I'm looking to create an app for android (which I can eventually add to the play store), that contains buttons of a sort in the fact that if you tap on the screen in once place one thing will happen and in another place, something else. Can anyone recommend the software I should use to create this app? Also, what language would be best for it. I think I already know the answer to this, and it may seem like a stupid question, but I don't want to presume and get it wrong. Thanks!

I think you should use android studio that's the best android app development tool used...
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