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brightness of S4 display

Hİ, guys
galaxy s3 screen was dim has anybody played with S4 is screen brighter than S3 i live in very sunny place need brightness thanks.

I haven't played with the S4 yet, however though, the S4's screen is clearly brighter than the S3's in some of the video on YouTube

The S4's screen is (according to reports) a little brighter than the S3.

so a little galaxy s3 was 330 cd so would s4 be 400?

Maximum brightness seems good, white is quite strong when it shines up (on pictures when you hover over the screen), but Samsung SW may tone it down for browsing etc. They say the new one will be adaptive depending on tasks and user habits and will be presets and manual adjustments available.
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thanks so its brighter tha s3 but is it like iphone 5

cihanleanne said:
Hİ, guys
galaxy s3 screen was dim has anybody played with S4 is screen brighter than S3 i live in very sunny place need brightness thanks.
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do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen

x102x96x said:
do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen
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so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?

x102x96x said:
do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen
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cihanleanne said:
so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?
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Hey guys, first post My biggest gripe with the S3 was the dim screen and unnatural colours especially the greyish white. I didn't buy it because of that. S4 seems to be a bit brighter and with better colour reproduction, only seen it on-line though. The screen on HTC One was really good, but seemed to be a bit dimmer than the One X, but I just tried it on a show floor so its hard to tell in that kind of lightning. Was a bit disappointing with the plain screen of Sony Z, maybe I looked at the demo version? I think that the white-magic stuff on my Sony Xperia P is really good for cranking up the brightness when needed, strange that Sony abandoned that tech. S4 with the screen of HTC One would be the best combo, but you could probably get used to Amoled?
The S4 seems brighter than the S3. Not sure if it's fair to compare brightness on Amoled with Lcd due to Amoleds black levels. quote from laptopmag (OT annoying Captcha):
"In addition to the Galaxy S4’s system performance, we also managed to benchmark the brightness level of the smartphone’s 5-inch 1920 x 1080-pixel Super AMOLED display. One of the biggest complaints we had regarding the S III was how dim its display was at just 213 lux. The Galaxy S4 improves upon that number, topping out at 258 lux. That’s brighter than the Galaxy S III, as well as the Galaxy Note II’s 240 lux rating. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 still falls behind the smartphone category average of 299 lux. The Google Nexus 4, meanwhile, came in with an average 399 lux."

Steambox said:
Hey guys, first post My biggest gripe with the S3 was the dim screen and unnatural colours especially the greyish white. I didn't buy it because of that. S4 seems to be a bit brighter and with better colour reproduction, only seen it on-line though. The screen on HTC One was really good, but seemed to be a bit dimmer than the One X, but I just tried it on a show floor so its hard to tell in that kind of lightning. Was a bit disappointing with the plain screen of Sony Z, maybe I looked at the demo version? I think that the white-magic stuff on my Sony Xperia P is really good for cranking up the brightness when needed, strange that Sony abandoned that tech. S4 with the screen of HTC One would be the best combo, but you could probably get used to Amoled?
The S4 seems brighter than the S3. Not sure if it's fair to compare brightness on Amoled with Lcd due to Amoleds black levels. quote from laptopmag (OT annoying Captcha):
"In addition to the Galaxy S4’s system performance, we also managed to benchmark the brightness level of the smartphone’s 5-inch 1920 x 1080-pixel Super AMOLED display. One of the biggest complaints we had regarding the S III was how dim its display was at just 213 lux. The Galaxy S4 improves upon that number, topping out at 258 lux. That’s brighter than the Galaxy S III, as well as the Galaxy Note II’s 240 lux rating. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 still falls behind the smartphone category average of 299 lux. The Google Nexus 4, meanwhile, came in with an average 399 lux."
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Wellcome to XDA,:good: so s4 nearly %10 brighterthan note 2?

BoneXDA said:
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Nice cherry picking, but obviously the HTC One had power saving mode on, he turned it off like 30 seconds later:

bazzag said:
Nice cherry picking, but obviously the HTC One had power saving mode on, he turned it off like 30 seconds later:
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what do you mean

cihanleanne said:
so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?
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in some comparison unfortunately yeah
S4 is even darker than S3 !!!

u can check it here
left u can see S4 demo and right S4 premium in unpacked 2013

x102x96x said:
u can check it here
left u can see S4 demo and right S4 premium in unpacked 2013
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thanks has anybody had hands on

cihanleanne said:
Wellcome to XDA,:good: so s4 nearly %10 brighterthan note 2?
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Tks! Looks like that. I saw that Cnet wrote a pieace about the S4 display, seams promising. I Can't link so i paste it below:
"Screen specs point to more natural-looking colors in the Samsung Galaxy S4 and other future Samsung phones
If you're the type of person who cares about these things, you'll be happy to know that a screen expert gives the Samsung Galaxy S4 kudos so far.
In particular, Ray Soneira, president of display analysis and software calibration company DisplayMate, takes it as a good sign that Samsung includes something called a CIE Chromaticity Diagram and grayscale for the GS4's adaptive screen settings.
The bottom line? If the Galaxy S4 has extensive color, white point, and display calibration adjustments, it means that Samsung's phones can back away from the oversaturated, candied colors they often get due to the AMOLED screen technology.
The varied spectrum indicates that whites could also look less blue than they have in the past, and more naturally pristine.
My colleague, CNET TV reviewer David Katzmaier, himself a screen fanatic, recently spent a lot of time playing with the settings on a Galaxy Note 2 and has some great insight of his own, including how to adjust settings to make colors more natural.
Samsung Galaxy S4 adapt display options Various adjustment modes could mean that colors look less oversaturated than in the past.
It's still the early days when it comes to actual display performance, both indoors and outdoors, and Samsung screens, like on the Galaxy S3, are often so reflective they're hard to read outdoors. But good changes could be coming soon.
Note: CNET uses DisplayMate software in lab tests."

It is decent in bright sunlight...seems better than my s3 but I'll try a side by side comparison later
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium

dlutz8 said:
It is decent in bright sunlight...seems better than my s3 but I'll try a side by side comparison later
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
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that would be great

has anybody had chance to play with galaxy S4?

Honestly don't know why people complain so much about the phone's brightness, its not that bad. And in regards to that whole auto-adjust stuff, well you can turn it off and just put it on max brightness if need be. On max brightness its plenty bright.

[INFO] Hardware list for Find 5

https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself

paperWastage said:
https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
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I believe OPPO said the screen is made by JDI
I suspect it's this one...

CARL AT OPPO FORUMS HAS CONFIRMED DISPLAY IS MADE BY JDI - SORRY FOR THE MISINFORMATION THAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET SAYING THEY WERE MADE BY LG
JDI (Japan Display Inc.) is going beyond tech demonstrators with its announcement of impending mass production of a 5-inch full-HD, 1,080 x 1,920 display with 443 PPI. In a joint venture with Hitachi, Sony, and Toshiba, JDI will produce TFT-LCD modules utilizing LTPS (Low-Temperature Poly-Silicon) and IPS (In-Plane Switching) technology to manufacture screens displaying approximately 2.3 times more information than currently possible on 720 HD (720 x 1,280) display screens. The results will include very high contrast, wide viewing angles, and high luminance with minimal color-shift.
Sharp Corporation has begun production of its own 5-inch full-HD (1,080 x 1,920 pixels) LCD displays for smartphones employing CG-Silicon (Continuous-Grain Silicon) technology along with a new pixel design. CG-Silicon allows for fewer layers, and increases manufacturing yield. Another Sharp advantage is their 5-inch screens can operate at lower power consumption levels as compared to other 5-inch displays. At 443 PPI the Sharp panels provide as many pixels on a 5-inch screen as found on full-HD TV displays, as also does the JDI panel. Manufacturing has already started in Japan, and Sharp will ramp up volume in October 2012. It should be noted that Sharp makes the 5-inch screen for Apple’s most recent iPhone 5, with only 326 PPI.
LG will provide display screens for the Chinese company Oppo, which announced the Oppo Find 5 smartphone. The announcement indicated 440 PPI, but that is easily accounted for as a rounding error in PPI calculators, and should be equivalent to the Sharp and JDI displays; all three of which offer a PPI count that provides a 35% pixel density improvement over Apple’s so-called “retina display”. The new LG display screens will include AH-IPS(Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching) to provide wide viewing angles, excellent accuracy in expression of color palettes, and rapid response to touch inputs.
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However, a more recent press release from JDI regarding display prototypes for vehicles suggests that a WhiteMagic display could be inbound. It talks of a 5-inch 1080p display with 438 PPI and “low power consumption that is approximately 50% less by utilizing an RGBW pixel structure”. This display also includes an “integrated touch function (without cover glass)”, probably similar to Sony’s sensor-on-lens touch screen technology.
As a reminder, a WhiteMagic display has the red, green blue and white (RGBW) sub pixels aligned horizontally. The additional white sub-pixel significantly increases display brightness compared to normal LCD and OLED screens. The technology can be used to double the brightness or to save 50% of the backlight power, as suggested by the JDI press release. There’s no guarantee WhiteMagic will appear in this 5-inch 1080p display, but it looks like the technology is there if Sony wants to use it.
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Thanks FlowXT![/QUOTE]
The Chinese company Oppo, released the Oppo Finder earlier this year, claiming the title of “world’s thinnest smartphone” with a thickness of only 6.65mm at its thinnest point, and 7.1mm at its thickest part. The iPhone 5 measures 7.6mm thick.
Oppo-Ration Apple Slicer
Oppo now says it will bring the Oppo Find 5 to consumers with a 5-inch, 1,080p, 441 PPI display, at a resolution of 1,920 x 1,080, in that same 6.65mm form-factor. It seems quite likely the Oppo Find 5 display will be made by LG. Apple should be wincing right about now, and not only because of the display. The other Oppo Find 5 specifications could slice Apple to the core.
Full specifications, pricing, and a release date have not been announced.
Specification Oppo-Rations
5-Inch, 441 PPI, 1,920 x 1,080 Resolution, AH-IPS Display Screen
6.65 Millimeters Thick
Qualcomm Quad-Core Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
2,500 mAh Non-Removable Battery
2 GB of RAM
12 MP Rear Camera
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http://www.j-display.com/english/index.html
Japan Display Inc an LG created most displays for Iphone 5. They have also created displays for other phones in the past along with many other phones.
If you look iPhone 5 Scratch Test With Knife and Keys on Video you surely think that new iPhone have no shortages. But it is not true. There is an iPhone 5 shortage as a result of in-cell display. Let’s check out what we found. According to many news iPhone 5 has been outstripping supply because of a shortage of the in-cell display units utilized in the new phone.
The new iPhone utilizes in-cell screen technologies, which rolls with each other the display and touch-sensitive elements of the screen in order to make it thinner. These displays, though, tend to be more labor-intensive to make. Which means the problem.
At first Apple was using LG Display Co. and Japan Display Inc. to create the new four-inch screens. To make sure manufacturing remained high, though, Apple drafted in the help of Sharp to produce more displays.
Based on reliable resources, however, Sharp can not meet demand. Reports claim that the company struggled to fix problems in the screens-the knock-on result being delayed deliveries of IPhone's and less stock to offer to consumers.
Of course, this really is all based on analyst reports and not cold, hard numbers from Apple itself-so it is best taken with a pinch of salt. And, uh, a very good reason for selling out of phones may be the fact that they sold 5 million of the things, instead of, you know, having minor provider issues.
In any case, no doubt iPhone 5 shortage with in-cell display it’s a issue Apple would like to fix soon. For the time being, you can at the least now reserve an iPhone 5 for in-store pick-up, so at least you will not have to wait in line.
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News Release
October 4, 2012
Japan Display to Start Mass Production of Full-HD LCD Modules for Smartphones
－ 5.0-inch module with 1080x1920 pixels 443ppi for high information content －
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Tokyo, October 4, 2012. Japan Display Inc. (JDI), a leader of LCD technologies, announced today that it will start mass-production shipment of 5.0-inch full-HD (1080x1920 pixels) TFT-LCD modules for smartphone applications this October.
Today, mobile information devices, such as smartphones, are increasingly more sophisticated and functional. As a result, compact-size displays are required which are able to show a large amount of information.
JDI is developing LCD modules to meet these growing requirements, based on its advanced core technologies, such as low-temperature poly-silicon (LTPS) for high resolution, in-plane switching (IPS) for wide viewing angle performance, and thinner backlight design for compact size, among others.
The features and benefits of JDI's latest module include:
1) High resolution to display a large amount of information
The 5.0-inch full-HD, 443 ppi* module is able to display approximately 2.3 times more information as compared to 720HD (720x1280 pixels).
2) Wide viewing angle and high contrast for fine and beautiful pictures
IPS technology enables wide viewing angle performance and high contrast, with minimal color shift-and along with the module’s high luminance (500cd/m2)-contributes to finer and more beautiful pictures.
3) Large display area, slim, and compact-size LCD module
The thinner LCD module (1.4mm), combined with its narrow frame (1.2mm), allows for compact smartphone design.
This new product is well-suited for high-end mobile smartphones designed to display a large amount of information. With this new product introduction JDI continues to demonstrate its leadership in the global small-size, full-HD resolution LCD module market.
JDI will demonstrate this product in booth #2701 at FPD International 2012, October 31 through November 2, 2012, in Yokohama, Japan.
*ppi is an abbreviation for pixels per inch
Module Specifications
Display mode Transmissive　IPS
NTSC ratio 71％
Contrast ratio 1000:1（typical）
Viewing angle > 160 degrees, top/bottom and left/right（with CR>100:1）
Screen size 5.0-inch (12.6cm) diagonal
Number of pixels 1080xRGB ｘ 1920 (full-HD)
Resolution 443ppi
Luminance 500cd/m2　(typical)
Dimensions 64.3㎜ (width) x 118.8㎜ (height) x 1.4㎜ (thickness)
Information in the press releases, including product prices and specifications, content of services and contact information, is current on the date of the press announcement,but is subject to change without prior notice.
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http://micgadget.com/31865/oppo-find-5-now-official-5-inch-1080p-441ppi-display-quad-core-and-super-slow-motion-filming-video/
Oppo Find 5 Now Official: 5-inch 1080p 441ppi Display, Quad Core and Super Slow Motion Filming (Video)
[UPDATE] OPPO unveiled the Oppo Find 5, the company latest entry in the high-end smartphone territory. The Find 5 most striking feature is the 1080p LCD display that boasts an amazing 441ppi pixel density. That’s the same resolution and pixel density as the display of the HTC Droid DNA/Butterfly. Similar to the Xiaomi Mi2 launch this summer, OPPO’s launch was held in the 798 arts district in Beijing. The event, which took place at a art center, included more than 500 attendees. We attended the launch event, and got up a close look with the new full HD phablet device. It was a nobby launch event that was quite impressive, the Chinese handset maker seem to has an ambitions to become a recognized player in the international market…
OPPO newest flagship the Find 5 packs some of the best specifications, starting with a powerful Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core chip clocked at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM. The 5-inch touch screen display has a 1920 x 1080 resolution which is an AH-IPS LCD panel manufactured by LG. The rear shooter of the Find 5 is fitted with a 13MP sensor, while the front camera packs 1.9MP. The stacked CMOS sensor delivers F/2.2 aperture, with 4-layer coating lens and blue glass filters. It can record videos and snap photos in HDR mode at the same time. Find 5 is the first smartphone in the world with this ability generate by hardware. It only comes with 16GB storage with no option to expand via an microSD card. The battery is a 2500mAh unit, which is adequate, but seem less for a 5-inch device.
Media capabilities on OPPO Find 5 are enhanced by the Dolby 3D surround and Dirac HD, a high-end audio system that has never been integrated on a mobile device before. Only companies such as Rolls Royce, Bentley, BMW, offer this type of technology. And best of all, the Find 5’s stock earbuds are fine-tuned for Dirac audio system. The new phone also comes with NFC, gently touching two phones will pair them in less than a tenth of a second, 50 times faster than Bluetooth pairing. The SmartTags, a small label with built-in-chip, will also add simplicity and convenience for user to activate any application with preset. Find 5 also supports Wi-Fi Display and DLNA, two functionality that allow projecting screen contents onto HDTV wirelessly.
OPPO Find 5 is compatible with the following networks: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/HSPA+42 (850, 1700, 1900, 2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz). Too bad there is no 4G LTE. It will launch in early 2013 across select markets. Judging from the existence of the US site, we can speculate that the OPPO Find 5 will sell for $499 ( contract free, 16GB version) in the United States. In China, the device is slated to go for 2,998 yuan (about $480). We’ll keep you posted as soon as we find out more.
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I think that oppo have now the JDI display (best quality for good reviews and market development) In future is possible to switch for LG displays. All phone brands (Lg ,HTC ,Samsung) after 3-6 months, the production quality and price drops for a expensive phone.... only the profit remains the same

http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/oppo-find-5-reviews.555/page-8#post-19785
reading between the lines, probably JDI

I Stand Corrected
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.

drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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Never heard of jdi either. They are most definitely going interesting things
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drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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if you find any datasheet on the display, care to share it? (need to find a datasheet for the display and the Orise display controller, to play with gamma and other values in the kernel)

I got some time to spare soon, as soon as I finish this test wont take long 70 min timer. I will dive in.

HTC One screen reviews: One comes with different display types

HTC One Display Brightness
The HTC One uses an adaptative contrast mechanism for the screen brightness that is in operation even when auto-brightness is off. This mechanism means that brightness settles after each picture change only after a 4-5 seconds, which means that measurements that are taken too quickly can overestimate brightness by 15%, which is why there is a wide fluctuation across all reviews.
At which level brightness settles depends on the average picture level. You can sometimes observe this while browsing: when the content displayed varies between dark and bright content, an adjustment is visible.
In my measurements below, I have indicated the brightness range as well as the typical settled brightness for the standard 100% Voodoo test pattern.
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HTC One Black Levels
Like with brightness, black levels also fluctuate due to the adaptative contrast mechanism:
Content with darker average picture level will be dimmed
Content with brighter content will will brightened
Overall black levels will fluctuate between 0.29cd/m² and 0.55cd/m², so dynamic contrast will be around 1700:1 whereas ANSI (or intra-picture contrast) will be around 1000:1.
Color Temperature: Three phones, three different display calibrations.
Unit 1 (silver)
Fabricated on 12th March 2013 at factory Tierra del Fuego Factory in Argentina (Serial: FA33CWxxxxxx, Panel ID JDI C2_2)
Display: color temperature slightly on the cool side
White color temperature: 6950K (some meters will incorrectly measure this up to 350K higher, especially if not using the right spectral file for the type of display)
Black Level: 0.37cd/m² to 0.50 cd/m²
Black Level (typical voodoo test pattern): 0.43 cd/m²
White Point: 370cd/m² to 490cd/m²
White Point (typical voodoo test pattern): 435cd/m²
Typical Contrast (without adaptative mechanism): 1000:1
ANSI Contrast: 1100:1​Unit 2 (silver)
Fabricated on 3rd April 2013 at Hsinchu, Taiwan factory (Serial: HT343Wxxxxxx, Panel ID JDI C2_2)
Display: neutral color temperature, slightly lower contrat:
White color temperature: 6550K (some meters will incorrectly measure this up to 350K higher, especially if not using the right spectral file for the type of display)
Black Level: 0.50 cd/m² to 0.64cd/m²
Black Level (typical voodoo test pattern): 0.52 cd/m²
White Point: 400cd/m² to 530cd/m²
White Point (typical voodoo test pattern): 466cd/m²
Typical Contrast (with adaptative mechanism): 900:1
Typical ANSI Contrast: 970:1​Unit 3 (black)
Fabricated on 12th April 2013 at factory Tierra del Fuego Factory in Argentina (Serial: FA34CWxxxxxx, Panel ID JDI C2_2)
Display: Even cooler color temperature unit 1 but same brightness and contrast
White color temperature: 7200K (some meters will incorrectly measure this up to 350K higher, especially if not using the right spectral file for the type of display)
Black Level: 0.37cd/m² to 0.50 cd/m²
Black Level (typical voodoo test pattern): 0.43 cd/m²
White Point: 370cd/m² to 490cd/m²
White Point (typical voodoo test pattern): 435cd/m²
Typical Contrast (without adaptative mechanism): 1000:1
ANSI Contrast: 1100:1​Comparison of warmest color temperature on Unit 2 (left) vs. coolest on Unit 3 (right):
Based on the collective reviews of the HTC One including my own measurements, it is now clear that HTC One displays can have different display characteristics in terms or color temperature, contrast and brightness. Even displays with the same Display ID have can have widely fluctuating brightness and color temperature depending on factory calibration.
Settled brightness between 390cd/m² and 475cd/m²
Color Temperature between 6550K to 7350K
ANSI contrast between 930:1 and 1100:1
Currently available reviews for the HTC One Display
Neutral Color Temperature
20.03.2013 GBR pcpro: 481cd/m² brightness | 1202:1 contrast (measured with i1 Display Pro)
20.03.2013 DEU Computerbase.de: 483cd/m² brightness | 1100:1 contrast | 6,600K white temperature (measured with DTP94)
26.03.2013 FRA 01net.fr: 485 cd/m² | 0,29 cd/m² | 1679:1 contrast | 6638K white temperature (measured with Minolta CA-210 and DTP94)
26.03.2013 FRA [email protected] (see below): 466 cd/m² | 0,52 cd/m² | 939:1 contrast | 6650K white temperature (measured with i1 Pro 2)
Medium-High Color Temperature
26.03.2013 DEU [email protected] 463cd/m² brightness | 1073:1 contrast | 6934K white temperature (measured with i1 Pro)
02.04.2013 DEU notebookcheck.com: 488.9cd /m² brightness | 0.23 cd / m² black level | 2117:1 contrast | 7205K white temperature
26.02.2013 RUS 3dnews.ru: 382cd/m² and 1,258:1 contrast | 6,938K white temperature (measured with Spyder 4)
High Color Temperature
14.03.2013 GBR uk.hardware.info: 426cd/m² brightness | 977:1 contrast | 7,820K color temperature (measured with i1 Display Pro)
26.02.2013 RUS 3dnews.ru: 453cd/m² and 1,328:1 contrast | 7,598K white temperature (measured with Spyder 4)
14.03.2013 NLD Tweakers.net: 489cd/m² | 1159:1 contrast | 8,166 color temperature (measured with i1 Display Pro)
26.03.2013 DEU [email protected] 420cd/m² brightness | 1060:1 contrast | 8,130K color temperature (measured with Chroma 5)
28.03.2013 RUS [email protected] 492cd/m² brightness | 1189:1 contrast | 7980K white temperature
Unknown color temperature:
14.03.2013 USA laptopmag: 463cd/m² brightness
19.03.2013 DEU Notebookjournal: 385cd/m² and 1100:1 contrast
19.03.2013 DEU PC Welt 447cd/m² brightness | 1711:1 contrast
20.03.2013 DEU Chip.de: 479cd/m² brightness | 1020:1 contrast
21.03.2013 FRA Les Numériques 460cd/m² | 1568:1 (measured with i1 Pro or i1 Pro 2 tbc.)
21.03.2013 FRA 01.net 480cd/m² brightness | 1,655:1 contrast (measured with Konica Minolta CA-210)
23.03.2013 BGR GSMArena: 647cd/m² brightness | 1541:1 contrast
Having said that, there are still different display calibrations out there, I myself measured "settled" brightness
I will try and keep this updated with new tests to confirm where each screen type can be found.
For reference, here are the luminance ranges of the color testing devices listed above.
i1 pro__________________________ 0.20 cd/m² to 300 cd/m²
i1 pro 2_________________________0.20 cd/m² to 1200 cd/m²
Chroma 5/Sencore Color Pro V_______0.01 cd/m² 1000 cd/m²
Spider 3/4_______________________0.02 cd/m² 5000 cd/m²
i1 Display 2______________._____._.__0.02 cd/m² 3000 cd/m²
i1 Display 3/i1 Display Pro/C6___._____0.003 cd/m² 1200 cd/m²
Konica Minolta CA-210______________0.01cd/m² 1000 cd/m²

Own screen measurements
Here are measurements I conducted today at a Vodafone shop.
White Balance
First of all, let me say that the readings were conducted by i1 Pro, which is certified until 300cd/m². Overall the readings will be very accurate for color temperature, black level, gamma and chromaticty, but maximum brightness may be off by a small margin (to be confimed tomorrow). Unfortunately Calman did not respond to me regarding my license upgrade to Calman5, so I could not use the Chroma5 for this measurement.
I will conduct new readings with the Chroma 5 likely tomorrow. The results are quite close to the PCpro review in terms of brightness and very close to the Russian review in terms of white color temperature (in fact nearly identical). Overall contrast falls in line with most reviews.
White point / maximum brightness: 445cd/m²
Back Level: 0.43cd/m²
Contrast (dynamic): 1034:1
Average gamma: 2.1
White color temperature (read the color tmperature section below): 6934K (same as Russian Review)
Black color temperature (read the color tmperature section below): 8882K
Average color temperature: 7353K
Overall the white balance is good but not perfect.
Color Temperature
The observed white balance translates into color temperature slightly on the cold side but it is colder at low stimulus and warmer towards the white point, which is important for a pleasing browsing experience:
I think displaying color temperature across the whole spectrum is important. Some reviews only mention one value, which can be the average or the white point temperature, but it is hard to interpret taken on its own.
Color decoding / Chromaticity
As far as color accuracy is concerned, the HTC One's display I tested had fairly accurate colors. Only the most critical viewers will detect thes imperfections in daily use.
Based on this measurement, this is more of a type 2 display, however I am not sure about the white point

Sites and reviewers test differently. I think if you look at the One X's performance you'll see it varied from site to site too.
Here's GSMArena's testing methodology. You can see how other sites might test differently and get different results because of it. It's more accurate to compare multiple devices on a single site than it is a single device across multiple sites. Assuming each site uses the same standardized tests a One X to SGS3 comparison on tweakers.net would be more relevant than a One X's performance off tweakers.net compared to a SGS3's peformance off GSMArena.
An important note about AMOLEDs is due here. As AMOLED units have the ability to completely switch off individual pixels, their black level readings are 0, which gives them an infinite contrast ratio under the testing conditions.
When we measure we take two readings off each device - first with the display brightness set to 50% and then with the brightness setting pushed all the way up. We test the handsets in complete darkness, because when ambient light is present, the luminance levels of the blacks displayed goes up, and affects the perceived contrast ratio.
Contrast ratio is very heavily influenced by the black levels of a display. While a brighter display would normally have an advantage, it will usually be unable to compensate for insufficiently deep blacks.
Our sunlight legibility test aims to show you how legible each screen remains in bright environments, where screen reflectivity matters as much as its natural contrast and brightness. We use fixed studio lighting to simulate sunlight falling on the phone screens and measure the contrast ratio of each of them, when faced with this powerful light source. We measure each display with brightness turned up to 100%.​

Re: HTC screen reviews: HTC One comes with different display types
Gsmarena is Bulgarian, not American

Here's a way to find the display type that doesn't require root.
1. Reboot the phone twice to get a clean "last_kmsg" file
2. Use any file manager that gets you to the root directory
3. Navigate to the /proc folder
4. Find "last_kmsg"
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5. Open it on the device or send it to a PC and open it as a text file. Your looking for "panel_id" and "panel_vendor." It's a long ass file so you're better off using an editor with a search feature to search on "panel."
Since there aren't many vendors making 1080P panels I'll bet all One's use the same panel type and it's probably from Renasis (Sharp) like the XZ and DNA.
The AUO (Acer) display on the Teg3 One X is "0x4940014"
The Sharp display on the Teg3 One X is "0x294000f"
The Sony display on the One XL is"0x18103" (The One XL only uses the Sony panel)
The AUO (Acer) display on the One X+ is 0x944a03 (The One X+ only uses the AUO panel)
The DNA uses a Renasis (Sharp) panel (only) but I can't find the ID

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Thanks I was looking for that information yesterday but could not find it. Do you know if this is the parent or did the testers also receive a Bulgarian unit?

BarryH_GEG said:
Sites and reviewers test differently. I think if you look at the One X's performance you'll see it varied from site to site too.
Here's GSMArena's testing methodology. You can see how other sites might test differently and get different results because of it. It's more accurate to compare multiple devices on a single site than it is a single device across multiple sites. Assuming each site uses the same standardized tests a One X to SGS3 comparison on tweakers.net would be more relevant than a One X's performance off tweakers.net compared to a SGS3's peformance off GSMArena.
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I agree with you with regards to black levels but not for brightness.
Brightness cannot move by more than 10% depending on measurement device or testing protocol
Calibration usually never reduces brightness either by more than 15%, except of course if you are calibrating an AMOLED to neutral color temperature.
The fact that there are several display types makes no doubt to me, as HTC like many others used that approach in the past and the brightness results are too different.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's a way to find the display type that doesn't require root.
1. Reboot the phone twice to get a clean "last_kmsg" file
2. Use any file manager that gets you to the root directory
3. Navigate to the /proc folder
4. Find "last_kmsg"
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5. Open it on the device or send it to a PC and open it as a text file. Your looking for "panel_id" and "panel_vendor." It's a long ass file so you're better off using an editor with a search feature to search on "panel."
Since there aren't many vendors making 1080P panels I'll bet all One's use the same panel type and it's probably from Renasis (Sharp) like the XZ and DNA.
The AUO (Acer) display on the Teg3 One X is "0x4940014"
The Sharp display on the Teg3 One X is "0x294000f"
The Sony display on the One XL is"0x18103" (The One XL only uses the Sony panel)
The AUO (Acer) display on the One X+ is 0x944a03 (The One X+ only uses the AUO panel)
The DNA uses a Renasis (Sharp) panel (only) but I can't find the ID
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Great stuff I will go to the shops and check it out. Why can't you find the ID on the DNA?

I made a thread about this earlier, but I only got troll responses.
Hope this thread receives actual input, this is kind of an important thing for me.

Hate to throw a spanner in the works here, but it may also be that different firmwares are producing different default colour temperatures. With the One X there were indeed three manufacturers of screen. For the European models it was Acer and Sharp. Acer had been colour fidelity, but less uniform, and not as bright. The sharp was a light cannon, but very cool colour temperature, and better uniformity. However, HTC reduced the disparity through firmware updates!
Therefore, the only true way is if we can find a reliable way of finding the vendor code such as in the log file.
Also I can tell you that I had a Sony Xperia last year. Even though all the screens are made by Sony, there was a huge variance between two supposedly identical phones, as I found out when I compared to a friends.
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The AUO (Acer) display on the Teg3 One X is "0x4940014"
The Sharp display on the Teg3 One X is "0x294000f"
The Sony display on the One XL is"0x18103" (The One XL only uses the Sony panel)
The AUO (Acer) display on the One X+ is 0x944a03 (The One X+ only uses the AUO panel)
The DNA uses a Renasis (Sharp) panel (only) but I can't find the ID
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Absolutely spot on accuracy here. I confirmed the One X+ my wife bought had an identical characteristic to the One X Acer screen I had before. However they seem to have improved the uniformity issues from my original One X.
I also have a suspicion that at least my One uses a Sharp panel and has a number of characteristics similar to the Sharp screen used on the One X. It has a colour temperature that is a bit on the cool side for sure. Although I haven't measured yet, I have a keen eye, and I would have said it was a little over 7000K. I also compared it to my wife's One X+ and it is a bit cooler, but not rediculous (nothing like the S3 which was wildly off). We may find a future firmware update corrects this if the variance between One's with sharp panels is not too severe.

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Hate to throw a spanner in the works here, but it may also be that different firmwares are producing different default colour temperatures.
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Even if it were true, battery life will still fluctuate depending on the screen type you have, and it is something end users have no control over once the device has been purchased, so may as well test his before purchasing...

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Even if it were true, battery life will still fluctuate depending on the screen type you have, and it is something end users have no control over once the device has been purchased, so may as well test his before purchasing...
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You're sort of on a witch hunt. HTC hasn't used two panel vendors on a single device since the Teg3 One X. When they did, none of the characteristics of the phone (EG: power draw, benchmarks) were any different. You're basing all your assumptions on tests conducted by eight different reviewers, using eight different methodologies, and using eight different sets of conditions.
Here's how the Teg3 One X fared in some of those same reviewer's tests. They were all testing a One X with the AUO panel because HTC didn't provide review samples that had the warmer Sharp panel (for good reason). And from being on the One X forum I assure you, as much as that phone was picked apart with a microscope, it there were any impacts to anything but color temperature because of the two different displays it would have been on the front page.
And if you performed the same analysis you did to reach your conclusion on any phone you'd see similar deviations. The deviations are there but it's differences in the reviewer's testing, not the devices themselves. By all means carry on but I think when people begin posting their panel ID’s it’ll most likely show a single display type.

BarryH_GEG said:
You're sort of on a witch hunt. HTC hasn't used two panel vendors on a single device since the Teg3 One X. When they did, none of the characteristics of the phone (EG: power draw, benchmarks) were any different. You're basing all your assumptions on tests conducted by eight different reviewers, using eight different methodologies, and using eight different sets of conditions.
Here's how the Teg3 One X fared in some of those same reviewer's tests. They were all testing a One X with the AUO panel because HTC didn't provide review samples that had the warmer Sharp panel (for good reason). And from being on the One X forum I assure you, as much as that phone was picked apart with a microscope, it there were any impacts to anything but color temperature because of the two different displays it would have been on the front page.
And if you performed the same analysis you did to reach your conclusion on any phone you'd see similar deviations. The deviations are there but it's differences in the reviewer's testing, not the devices themselves. By all means carry on but I think when people begin posting their panel ID’s it’ll most likely show a single display type.
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Please be honest about this. It is not even debatable that maximum brightness has an impact on battery life. Just to prove my point. Take this test:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/handys/2013/htc-one-im-test/5/
Battery time at maximal brightness (383cd/m²): 277 min (4:37)
Battery time at 200cd/m²: 322 min (5:22)
That's 16% more battery for a 58% decrease in brightness. Therefore, if you do the maths, this means an 11% difference in battery performance for web browsing/HD Video between the 650cd/m² model and the 385cd/m² model.
If you apply this to the current GSM Arena battery charts, which were created based on the top brightness model (650cd/m²), you can see that the HTC One climbs further up on the chart.
And this factor is even an underestimation for the GSM charts, because they measure standard definition video as opposed to HD, so the impact of screen brightness in their testing environment should be even more, probably around 20% between the two devices.

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Please be honest about this. It is not even debatable that maximum brightness has an impact on battery life. Just to prove my point.
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Do you know what brightness settings each of the reviewer’s used when they tested battery life? I'm willing to bet it's not maximum brightness and that all the phones each of them test are set to some equivalent level that the reviewer applies consistently.
And what you're saying is debatable. Each of the reviewer's data you're quoting is correct; based on their testing methodology. What I'm saying is that the same display is performing within 10+/-% (normal deviation) and that 382cd/m2 from 3Dnews is the same as 647cd/m2 from GSMArena. The display's not performing any differently, it's how their testing that's causing variations. The swings in the One X comparative I provided show that. Do you honestly believe if the delta on One X displays at max brightness was 386 vs. 550 that the owners of the less bright display(s) wouldn't notice? There are 100 pages discussing the difference between the warm Sharp panel vs. the cool AUO panel so it’s not as if owners aren’t conscious of their display’s performance.
So you’re taking something that’s meant to be viewed vertically (EG: comparing multiple devices performance against each other on GSMArena where the same methodology was used) and trying to make it horizontal by taking a single device's results from eight different reviewers and comparing them. It can't work because, again, they all use different methodologies for each of their tests. No analysis based on an undefined or inconsistent baseline can ever be compared. There are just too many variables that can (and do) skew the results. And here’s how to prove this. If you ran the same analysis across the same eight sites for the XZ you’d get a similar result to what you got for the One. Same for any other phone. If what you’re representing were true every device produced would have three display types and wild swings in battery life based on huge variations in brightness. We know that’s not the case because it would be all over each devices respective XDA forum.
Here's one of GSMArena's battery tests.
The web browsing test is performed using an automated script which reloads a webpage every ten seconds. There are no flash elements on the web pages, so the playing field is even. The brightness of the phones' displays is set to 50% and we use a Wireless N router placed a few meters away to get full connectivity bars.

BarryH_GEG said:
You're sort of on a witch hunt. HTC hasn't used two panel vendors on a single device since the Teg3 One X. When they did, none of the characteristics of the phone (EG: power draw, benchmarks) were any different. You're basing all your assumptions on tests conducted by eight different reviewers, using eight different methodologies, and using eight different sets of conditions.
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No disrespect, but you don't seem to be intimately familiar with screen calibration. The difference between the top level of observed brightness and the lowest one is huge. Not difference is testing conditions, protocol or testing devices can explain such a difference (650cd/m² to 385cd/m²).
If testing devices had such error margins, it would be a well known fact amongst professional calibrators, and no one would hire their services because essentially eye calibration would not be any less accurate than measured calibration...Please be serious.
As someone who had calibrated many displays, and repeated measurements with different measurement devices and under different conditions, please trust me when I say that brightness measurements are very stable and reliable, using even the cheapest colorimeters (chromaticity and black levels are more sensitive to the device used but brightness is easy).

This thread makes me nervous. When the One X come out, I had access to several handsets at once, all of which displayed different tints when on boot screen or recovery screen. Some white some yellowed.
Is this the same with the One? Are there cool and warm screens?

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No disrespect, but you don't seem to be intimately familiar with screen calibration.
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No disrespect, but you don't seem very familiar with comparative analytics which are the crux of your conclusions.
This is from the site you posted with the lowest cd/m2 score for the One. The One's performance against the One X+ matches up to GSMArena's comparison of the same two devices even though GSMArena's relative cd/m2 score for both devices was almost double. If the One's they each had didn't have screens that were performing similarly the deviation against the One X+ would have been pretty obvious to both of them.
Maximum brightness has remained virtually unchanged from the HTC One X +: was 373 cd / m 2, was 10 candelas more. But seriously change the contrast: on the already considerable 862:1 she grew up in half and is now 1258:1.​

BarryH_GEG said:
Same for any other phone. If what you’re representing were true every device produced would have three display types and wild swings in battery life based on huge variations in brightness. We know that’s not the case because it would be all over each devices respective XDA forum.
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Who spoke about wild swings in battery life? I gave you a figure (11% for a 58% difference in brightness) based on 1 testing environment, 1 testing device, 1 reviewer. The difference is there. In fact, I even have no doubt that the difference could be more when testing SD videos instead of HD videos like in the test I quoted or that this percentage could be higher when starting from a much higher brightness point.
I read the GSMArena testing setup. Based on this, the difference is probably even larger than in my estimate for their own setting. As you said, not all settings will produce the same differences. The GSM set up for video testing was less demanding in terms of video processing, therefore the impact of screen brightness should be even greater!
The fact that battery life is impacted by maximum screen brightness is just not debatable, especially if what you say is true and it is only one and the same display. This actually precludes any other factors such as different display energy efficiency between different display models from making the brighter display brightness somehow equally energy efficient than the lower brightness display.
If what you say is true, then the battery difference is just not questionable. if screens had been different, I could have agreed that the brighter screen could have been as energy efficient due to different technology, but as it stands, light must be produced with energy and more light with more energy..

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No disrespect, but you don't seem very familiar with comparative analytics which are the crux of your conclusions.
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Comparative analytics reinforce my point - the computerbase setup is actually more forgiving for screen brightness than the GSMArena one (focus on HD Video means the proportion of battery loss explained by brightess vs. that explained by video processing is less vs the GSM Arena setting), so based on comparative analytics, the difference would be even greater than 11%. That will teach me for understating battery improvements in my table just to not appear to arbitrarily inflate my results!

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If what you say is true, then the battery difference is just not questionable.
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Of course it is. Your assumption, based on a flawed comparative resulting in a flawed conclusion, is that each One built could have a display that varies from 382-647cd/m2 and therefore battery performance could vary accordingly. I'm saying there's most likely a single panel used on the One and the difference in brightness between any two panels is no more than 10+/-% due to manufacturing tolerances and that all One's will have similar battery life when used the same way. If you're right this thread will balloon in to 100+ pages and end up a sticky because the lucky winners of the "screen lottery" you're describing that draw 382cd/m2 displays will be up in arms. If I'm right this thread will die out fairly quickly as the deviation you're hypothesizing only exists on paper.

Note3 has the brightest display ever?

Just saw this:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-3-display-review-brightness-display-mate-278726/
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
Is this legit or did Samsung give them a super-model for their lab test? I like to believe it, but it sounds a bit of a stretch...
The Note 3’s is extremely bright. According to DisplayMate’s testing, the Note 3 is 55 percent brighter than the Note 2 and 25 percent brighter than the Galaxy S4. The Note 3 performs better than or comparable to “most LCD displays in this size class”. With Automatic Brightness on, the Note 3’s display reaches an impressive 660 cd/m2, which is the highest value that DisplayMate ever recorded. For comparison, the iPhone 5, long considered a standard in display quality, outputs 600 cd/m2.
DisplayMate praises the user selectable color modes of the Note 3, noting that the Professional Photo mode delivers a “fairly accurate calibration to the Adobe RGB standard, which is rarely available in consumers displays”.
The reflectance levels on the Note 3 are very low, which, along with the high brightness, improves readability under intense ambient light. The Note 3 has the highest “Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light” that the company ever measured.
At viewing angles of 30 degrees, the display loses just 22 percent of its brightness, compared to 55 percent or greater in the case of a typical LCD display.
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Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:

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Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:
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No.. what do their reviews say?
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danieljamie said:
No.. what do their reviews say?
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm

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Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:
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Do you have something meaningful to say? I'm just wondering how an OLED display can be brighter than an LCD one (by nature of the technology used, LCDs are brighter).
From gsmarena:
The Super AMOLED panel on the Galaxy Note 3 isn't the brightest we've seen and it's inferior to the Galaxy S4 in this department. However in most cases you won't notice this in practice unless you pit the Note 3 side by side with an HTC One or iPhone 5.
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This seem to contradict Displaymate's review.

MohJee said:
Do you have something meaningful to say? I'm just wondering how an OLED display can be brighter than an LCD one (by nature of the technology used, LCDs are brighter).
From gsmarena:
This seem to contradict Displaymate's review.
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Not sure where you got that info from. Personally, i'd go for numbers from displaymate over gsmarena.
For reference, Displaymate's Measured Peak Brightness numbers are:
Galaxy SIII: 283 cd/m2
Galaxy Note II: 353 cd/m2
Galaxy S4: 475 cd/m2
iPhone 5: 556 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 3: 660 cd/m2
gsmarena don't have any actual numbers.

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Not sure where you got that info from. Personally, i'd go for numbers from displaymate over gsmarena.
For reference, Displaymate's Measured Peak Brightness numbers are:
Galaxy SIII: 283 cd/m2
Galaxy Note II: 353 cd/m2
Galaxy S4: 475 cd/m2
iPhone 5: 556 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 3: 660 cd/m2
gsmarena don't have any actual numbers.
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Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.

MohJee said:
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.

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I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.
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This does actually sound like a plausible explanation..
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redpiit2016 said:
I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.
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I read that it was set that way so people didn't drain their battery very quickly.

Laptop reviews also has the screen measured as the brightest ever for a mobile device...just saying

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Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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So you trust GSMarena which don't have tool or experts to do these kind of testings over trusted corporation which main job is optimizing, calibrating, testing, evaluating and comparing all types of displays, monitors, projectors, mobile displays, HDTVs, and all display technologies, such as LCD, OLED, 3D, LED, LCoS, Plasma, DLP and CRT
Cool

I doubt it has the brightest screens of all cellphones out there. The WhiteMagic screen of the Sony Xperia P is over 800nits.
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MohJee said:
Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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That's what I said. They don't have a number for auto brightness, which is the only way to measure max brightness

How bright is it?

I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.

hatcyl said:
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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Friends on what you consider dim/bright to be.
Majority say no problem in bright sun, so it's "bright" enough.

There is an app for the Nexus 6 to blast the screen real bright when outdoors. I have not tried it, but I've read ppl like it. If the P is not bright enough I'm sure an app will be available for cranking the brightness up.

356 nits ....but im hoping it can be more based on many of the (almost as bright as note 5)
Nexus 6 was 270.....so much broghter than last year, but much dimmer than note 5.
By Much i mean 30% more than last year but 30% less than note 5.....

I think it should be fine. Nexus 5 is 400 but I have never turned it above 75% even outdoors. 356 would be at the high end but I have no worries about it.
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Brightness seems to be pretty sad unfortunately :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110
Another thing we have to point out is its poor visibility outdoors when the sun is present – it washes out tremendously to the point that it’s unusable unless we shield it. Achieving a maximum luminance of 356 nits, it’s not as potent as the Nexus 5X mark of 487 nits, and nowhere close to the blinding 593 nits reached by the iPhone 6s Plus.
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I heard you turn off adaptive brightness mode and the phone gets brighter, like it said above.

Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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You have to take into account that brightness isn't the only thing that matter for readability under very high ambient luminosity.
Screen reflectivity, contrast and color saturation are as important as brightness. And the LG G4 (like most of the LCD) is very reflective, not even close to an AMOLED in contrast and can't achieve the same saturation that what is possible with an AMOLED panel.
In fact, if you go read a GSMArena review, you will see that under direct sunlight, the G4 isfar less readable than a Motorola Nexus 6...

Reflectivity etc is important, I agree. But I am hoping that the nits readings are with the standard adaptive brightness etc on. The mid 300s isn't as great as I'd like, and is around the overall average.
Nevertheless, the UK winter is coming and sunlight readability becomes a moot point!

I agree that 350nits is average at best.
But the biggest problem, IMO, is that the display on the 6P seems to be not as close to the glass as the latest Samsung devices. This will lead to an higher reflectivity.

Brightness
RidinNerdy said:
Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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Thats a big problem IMO. The brightness level is pitiful. Why Google?
Anyone trying to defend the brightness is out of touch. The tests from a few posts
above is conclusive. I held off ordering to see if there were any things that would come up
in initial reviews. Battery life seems also to be hit and miss.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-6P-battery-life-test-score-average-in-active-use_id74853
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Very poor brightness
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.

i just walked outside in california sun at 1:00pm. i can read texts just fine. might have hard time looking at dark images because well black is...not lit... but i rather have little dimmer screen to preserve battery life and plus less prone to burn-ins.

os2baba said:
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
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Well. That's sad to hear :/ I guess I'll stick with my $250 500+ cd/m2 Idol 3.