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hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
mooooo2 said:
hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
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If you want android, get a native android phone. It will be a very long time before it runs as well on the hd2, if ever. There are still several functions not working and it's not nearly as stable as an android phone. It's running stable for a port this early in it's development, but it's still a work in progress. If you want a working android for everyday use now, you will want an android phone.
its not quite there but its getting there if you want android though just get the nexus but i would rather have the big screen and awesome hardware and wait for android because it will get there maybe a month or so
No, I don't believe android will ever be stable on a non-native device. Even on devices that have been developing android to work on them for years have not reached a point of "stability." When they say it's running stable, they mean the OS, not the phone functions. Just get a droid phone if you want droid.
mooooo2 said:
hello folks,
iam from germany so it'll be a long time before i get my hands on the evo or the droid x.
so today i read on engadget that android froyo and 2.1 are running stable on the hd2. what about the battery time, is it still an issue? is the android market working?
are there any benchmarks?
I am quit a "poweruser" so are these builds advanced enough for every day use?
thanks
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Buy the hp for what it is, I bought this phone knowing that it's what it is.
I would buy an Android with 5mp and above, with dual led light, 4.3" screen(this is addictive!), thin design, qwerty keyboard, hdmi out, above 512mb ram, Above 1g processor and lots more beyond mentioning.
But I bought a HD2. Smiles for now.
I'm optimistic about android on the Hd2. I think many people on here will run it as their main OS before the year is over. Since when are factory shipped operating systems so infallible? The shipped WM roms stink compared to the custom roms. In the end its is pointless to speculate on what may or may not happen. My recommendation is to buy the HD2 because it is the best WM phone ever with an exciting android port to play with.
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I'm optimistic about android on the Hd2. I think many people on here will run it as their main OS before the year is over. Since when are factory shipped operating systems so infallible? The shipped WM roms stink compared to the custom roms. In the end its is pointless to speculate on what may or may not happen. My recommendation is to buy the HD2 because it is the best WM phone ever with an exciting android port to play with.
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But he's not looking for the best winmo phone with an android port to play with.... he states he's an android "power user" that needs a very stable version of android with everything working. I'm amazed at how quickly they have got android working on the HD2 and how functional and stable they've got it... but it will be a longtime before it's as stable and functional as a native android phone and has the same battery life as an android phone (android ports are all notorious for having terrible battery lifes... power management is one the last things that get's completely working and stable). I've been playing with android ports for other winmo devices since the kaiser.... not one is completely functional or as stable as a native android phone. If your goal is to use android full-time, there's no point in buying a winmo device hoping it will run android stabily one day... get an android phone. Personally, I love both winmo and android, so I love having a powerful winmo device with an android port in development... it's exciting watching and playing with it as it progresses. But if you don't like winmo, the HD2 is not for you.
Dilemma -- I have someone that wants to buy my Stock HD2 without Android for $350 (us dollars) so that I can purchase the N1.
What you guys suggest? Keep my HD2 w/ Android which is overclocked and working flawless w/ Android or sell it and get the Nexus One root it, Froyo 2.2, etc?
PS,
I know its not available online, I know a few private sellers that N1's for sell.
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
thatruth132 said:
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
thread... i dont know how to tell you this.... i think you have until 18:00GMT to live... im sorry
btw hd2, n1 is butt ugly
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
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thread rules state develoment only , if it was me i would be asking members in the market area...
another useless thread...but to answer your question, HD2 will eventually get NAND soon, seeing as the HTC Kaiser already has android NAND. After the HD2 gets NAND it will be better than the nexus one, wiping out windows mobile all together and running flawlessly from boot.
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wait a bit for android ROM and u will get the answer
i had the n1. i did not like the build quality and wasnt really feeling the design. the material used for the display felt kind of thin. like the g1 screen. in my opinion and experience with the two, the hd2's build quality and design are far more superior than the nexus one.
i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems. with the hd2 running android and just about stable, i'd choose the hd2 over a nexus one. i dont know if you have had any other android phone, but with custom rom's you will also run into problems once in a while. when i had the nexus one and running some custom roms, i would get random reboots and freezes(depending on who's rom), same as some people running android on their hd2. so dont think just because you are getting a device that originally came with android it will run 100% stable when running custom roms.
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i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems.
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+1
I would choose my HD2 over the N1 =)
Can the Nexus One run windows? Does the Nexus One have a 4.3 inch screen? HD2 FTW!
Just to clarify, its HD2 ANDROID.
Droid is a whole other phone.
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DeekoVB5 said:
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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I bought a spanking new Desire off Amazon and after putting Shubcraft on my HD2 promply sold the Desire. To get the Desire running the way I wanted it too would have taken the same amount of work to get my HD2 going. More than happy with HD2 now. Plus the phone has proved to be a real head turner out in public as various fanboyz from other platforms as well as Android want to know what the hell it is.
I like both phones but prefer the bigger screen of the HD2.
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Although i love my HD2 and use it more than my nexus one, i cant see myself getting rid of the nexus one until I have a G2. So to answer your question, until nand becomes a reality, the best android phone is a pure android phone.
I just came from the my touch slide and know a lot of developers that traded their nexus one for HD2.I'm looking forward to seeing awesome things on this phone from them. Being patient is going to be difficult but well worth it.
DeekoVB5 said:
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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you are right , there is no hardware designed for certain os exept the buttons , my hd2 with mattc builds runs smoother than my friend's htc desire in some tasks , may be the developers here made better drivers than HTC , add on that that we have real multitouch that doesnot exist in allot of htc android phones including (desire and nexus ) and now we only 4 steps far from fully android Hd2
1. light sensor
2. improve g sensor drivers
3. compass calibration
4.in call volume increase
and these are not big issues
I was also thinking trading HD2 for a Nexus, but can't get rid of 4.3" screen, so I decided to stick with the mighty HD2
I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!
With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.
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Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do
Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory
As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...
I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.
personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
+1 ... im interested too
+1 thanks!
Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
win98 said:
Hello everyone,
i really like the HD2, because you can flash every actual OS from Android to Ubuntu and Windows.
Does the HD2 have any special feature that it supports so many OS, or is it just that developers focused this device specially.
But now the Hardware of the HD2 is getting old. So will there be a new device which be able to be so flexible like the HD2?
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hi!
i had an HD2 before, and i loved it. an i still do.
Most of us old HD2 users have upgraded to Sensation (some also to the Desire HD).
The thing is HD2 doesent have any special feature that makes it able to run different things - just a great community with the passion and drive to make all these different OS work. So what you need is a phone thats "popular", which will creat a great community as well.
Ive got the Sensation, and it got plenty of diffrent roms you can install... right now im on Android 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 - and it runs AWESOMELY! soon we will port the new sense 4.0 also
i hope that Ubuntu would be ported to )
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Well,If we look back to the history of HD2 , it was born with winmo 6.5 which soon died out.For such a unique and powerful (expensive too) device to just been thrown to dustbin - it was hard for the users,so a lot of interest on how to make it survive - obviously by porting newer OSs.Once it made so , there was no look back ,even now it is one of the most interesting piece for developers.But will there be another HD2 , I don't think so.With so many smart phones in market - more powerful by day ,we will rather move on ...But HD2 development may last as long as its hardware is compatible enough...
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i think the hardware will be compatible long time. The matter is, that you cant develop a rom which will have dual core, super amoled display, better resolution, nfc, 4g and so on.
Respect for the HD2 that it could mess up so many years with any new smartphone, but i think in future this will be hard.
So, what i am going to say is, that xda, or (nearly) all developers should focus a new phone for porting rom and that stuff.
For example to wait for a new wp apollo phone, which will support multicore and higher resolution.
If it is just the focus of the developers which made the HD2 so popular, it would be great, to name a newer device as "the next HD2"
(sounds like the next uri geller^^)
I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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I'd like to see the first WP7 dual phone become the next HD2. Most of the current WP7 phones are still single core, and while that's might be good for now, I'd rather have a dual core in my next phone, since I'd probably be using it for a good two years or so. A dual core WP7 phone+Android ports+Ubuntu ports = perfect? I think yes.
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yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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I don't get it: Why would I need a dual/quadcore? My HD2 works without any lags, I can't find any difference regarding the overall userexperience compared to a SGSII etc. Are the games a main reason for the more powerful hardware?
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Well mine does as well, I'm on ICS and underclocked actually, to 768 Mhz and it's smooth. However, I want to be able to play some more intensive games [ like GTAIII] and whatnot without having to used a dumbed down data for it. Also, while it's not that big a deal for me, it would be kinda nice to be able to play back 1080p video. But for now, my HD2 is still awesome; I have a friend with a Droid X 2 and one with a Droid 3, and there's nothing they can do with their 2011 phone I can't do on my 2009 phone!
win98 said:
yeah i want the same.
there are rumours about an hd8 with apollo.
apollo will have new res, nfc and multicore support.
i hope this phone will replace the hd2 with dignity
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Phone-Powered-HTC-HD8-Emerges-244543.shtml
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I'm starting my reading up on the skills needed for Android developing, I really wanna take part in making the 'next HD2' as awesome as the current one!
HTC Edge/Endeavour will surely be the next developers phone, no?
I doubt there will ever be such a phone again. The industry is consolidating around two OSs (Android and iOS). Windows Phone has an outside chance of becoming relevant again next year.
I say keep your HD2 going until the Edge/Endeavor comes along. I've got the new Galaxy Nexus and, I must say, the experience of Ice Cream Sandwich on my HD2 is not much different to the Galaxy Nexus with its dual cores. Wait just a little bit longer.
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
+ 1 from me. HD2 is unique. I love it as it is a member of my family...
THUDUK said:
Dont what ever any of you do sell your HD2's I sold mine about a year ago and have been through copious Windows phones, Android Phones even Iphones...nothing comes close to the diversity of this phone, I miss the ability to switch from Android to WP...
The community and development is second to none.
I currently us a Galaxy s2, OK the development is very good for Android Roms, OK its got an amazing screen and very powerful, but really never feels like I am in control of what it can do, I would love to try the WP7.5 but would hate to be restricted to just one operating system, they are all boring after a while, the HD2 allows you so much more
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ive moved to the galaxy note and have kept the hd2 but wouldnt even entertain using it now, unless something happens to the note
main purpose is that it works, unlike on the hd2 where something dont work or are slow to work due to non native driver support, the devs are fantastic in what they have done for the device, but im actually glad im not swapping/updating roms every week
Hello everyone, I just recently lost my phone and im officially back on the market for a new smartphone. I was wondering what everyone thinks about the HTC HD2. I haven't seen any good reviews on youtube--at least not specifically running on Android... Can anyone give me some input?
HTC HD2 originally runs on Windows (which im not used to) but it seems pretty similar to android according to some youtube videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQ_iFf4s2Y]
So what do you guys think? If I do get the HD2.. should I flash it to ICS? Jellybean? Gingerbread? Or just stick with the windows? And if I do flash it.. does it compromise the speed?
Thank you for your help!
chrisleealee said:
Hello everyone, I just recently lost my phone and im officially back on the market for a new smartphone. I was wondering what everyone thinks about the HTC HD2. I haven't seen any good reviews on youtube--at least not specifically running on Android... Can anyone give me some input?
HTC HD2 originally runs on Windows (which im not used to) but it seems pretty similar to android according to some youtube videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQ_iFf4s2Y]
So what do you guys think? If I do get the HD2.. should I flash it to ICS? Jellybean? Gingerbread? Or just stick with the windows? And if I do flash it.. does it compromise the speed?
Thank you for your help!
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Depending of the price you are going to buy one, this is still the greatest phone made by HTC.
You can flash whatever rom you want, ICS and JB run smooth.
The HD2 is THE allrounder smartphone ever made
Great Hardware and open for multple Operating System
You should flash android anyway
There are very good ICS and JB roms out there
I for myself sticked to GB roms (MIUI GB Version most of the time i had one) because the camera was running much better
then in the ICS or JB roms and that never got fixed.
Its a great phone
Here in Hamburg / Germany the phone cost between 120€ and 200 € depending on its condition
Hope that helps you
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If today my hd2 breaks...i will buy a galaxy note2 and give it to my wife and take her hd2..
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The HD2 supports a wide variety of operating systems: Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows Phone 7, all versions of Android, Ubuntu, Maemo... If you like wasting time flashing your phone, then the HD2 is definitely the best choice.
The most stable Android builds so far are still the Gingerbread ones, but JB is not bad either. Developer interest for the HD2 is slowly decreasing, but there are still a few builds out there that get regular updates.
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if you are capable of a slightly-more-technical-than-most-phones flashing process, and want a technical toy with roms and options and possibilities that may or may not be running 100% correctly, may have a glitch or two here and there, but gives you as much freedom as you can cope with, then get a HD2.
As to what you should flash, , flash everything, if you like a rom, use it, if you don't, change it.
If you want a 100% android phone and are only interested in maybe skinning up a rom, changing icons, installing apps, then get an android phone.
The HD2 has great xda support, it really is one of the best. However, I would not consider the HD2 unless you could get it for really cheap
HD2 Pros
Great xda support with tons of different OS
No really, I will only buy Nexus phones now because i was spoiled on how great the support was for the HD2... It seemed no other phones reached the level of HD2 (for andriod)
HD2 Cons:
Hardware buttons do not last very long (~year) and I much prefer software/touch buttons.
Outdated hardware. EX: Galaxy Nexus is much faster/refined
Other issues that may or may not have been fixed since i last used the HD2:
Corrupt blocks causing random crashes
Bad Multi-touch (sucks for games)
Battery life kinda sucked