The last time I've updated my SGS1 to ICS, it started after about 1 to 2 weeks, to slow down and it always ended in a bootloop. It just start to restart more and more often. I tried different ROM's, none worked. I tried to flash a Kernel after it starts to reboot - nope. Then I installed the original Samsung ROM, since it works.
Does anyone have any idea why the original ROM does and the costumer ROM does not?
Root? The kernel? Or maybe a hardware problem?
For about 2 years I use customer ROM's and have not had such problems. And you know, it is kind of hard to get back to GB... really...
Thanks for your ideas!
luxamman said:
The last time I've updated my SGS1 to ICS, it started after about 1 to 2 weeks, to slow down and it always ended in a bootloop. It just start to restart more and more often. I tried different ROM's, none worked. I tried to flash a Kernel after it starts to reboot - nope. Then I installed the original Samsung ROM, since it works.
Does anyone have any idea why the original ROM does and the costumer ROM does not?
Root? The kernel? Or maybe a hardware problem?
For about 2 years I use customer ROM's and have not had such problems. And you know, it is kind of hard to get back to GB... really...
Thanks for your ideas!
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At a guess this is the datadata problem, usually caused when you have more than approx 150 apps installed, do a search for the various solutions
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At a guess this is the datadata problem, usually caused when you have more than approx 150 apps installed, do a search for the various solutions
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I had about 25-35 programms / games installed, less when the problem has started... i had no problem with the "memory full" error
Stable Baseband Firmware
Have you tried to use Odin to flash it with stable Baseband rom like XXJVS for Gingerbread Rom, after that try to Flash the new ICS ROM like The Nyx Rom, cuz it's stable and I'm using their Rom since they start the Beta.
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Have you tried to use Odin to flash it with stable Baseband rom like XXJVS for Gingerbread Rom, after that try to Flash the new ICS ROM like The Nyx Rom, cuz it's stable and I'm using their Rom since they start the Beta.
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Now iam on XXDJV1 - it should be the latest version of the original Samsung ROM's. I did flash it with Odin, after that i deletet everything on the phone, flashed a CWM, cleared caches, flash with the zip files (Clean AOKP was the latest).... but do you think it could be different when i start it from the edge? Is there something i can do in a different way?
I really was thinking about Hardware defects, viruses or problems with the root/kernel...
I've read on this forum that some well-respected users* hypothesizing that LS8 may actually be just another test rom based on the following things:
- Only released in Spain (FOP) [not sure what the other 2 Chinese releases brought to the table)
- Bootloops/freezes seem to happen even while using the stock rom (this seems to happen to all users eventually)
In my experience, I had one freeze in which I couldn't wake the device. I turned it off, removed the battery,
and it got stuck on boot. Then I turned it off (by holding the power button) and turned it on again and it work. Hours later the same thing happened. I thought it was Jeboo Kernel 1.2's fault, but now that I read this I am uncertain.
So what do you guys think? Are we running a test rom? Did Samsung release it so that we would shut the hell up for a while? Or is it the real deal and it is the best we'll get?
*not mentioning them just to avoid them getting hatemail (actuallly hatePMs) if this proves not to be true
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I've read on this forum that some well-respected users* hypothesizing that LS8 may actually be just another test rom based on the following things:
- Only released in Spain (FOP) [not sure what the other 2 Chinese releases brought to the table)
- Bootloops/freezes seem to happen even while using the stock rom (this seems to happen to all users eventually)
In my experience, I had one freeze in which I couldn't wake the device. I turned it off, removed the battery,
and it got stuck on boot. Then I turned it off (by holding the power button) and turned it on again and it work. Hours later the same thing happened. I thought it was Jeboo Kernel 1.2's fault, but now that I read this I am uncertain.
So what do you guys think? Are we running a test rom? Did Samsung release it so that we would shut the hell up for a while? Or is it the real deal and it is the best we'll get?
*not mentioning them just to avoid them getting hatemail (actuallly hatePMs) if this proves not to be true
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I would say so, why would they only release it in one country? I has to be released only in Spain so they can iron out the rest of the bugs, including the annoying freezing/random turning off ones that kill your battery. Battery drain has to be sorted also, so some call it the final build, but I reckon it will another month or two before we see the true "final" build, hopefully with all the bugs ironed out.
Question. ...are people getting these bugs you talk about if they run the rom bone stock no root? I do believe this was rushed out but not that its another test rom. Staying on my rock solid neat rom 4.0 with siyah for now. Something better is coming....fingers crossed.
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I would say so, why would they only release it in one country? I has to be released only in Spain so they can iron out the rest of the bugs, including the annoying freezing/random turning off ones that kill your battery. Battery drain has to be sorted also, so some call it the final build, but I reckon it will another month or two before we see the true "final" build, hopefully with all the bugs ironed out.
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Perhaps, but doesn't that make it a test rom by definition?
vanisleryan said:
Question. ...are people getting these bugs you talk about if they run the rom bone stock no root? I do believe this was rushed out but not that its another test rom. Staying on my rock solid neat rom 4.0 with siyah for now. Something better is coming....fingers crossed.
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This dev claims that the first time he installed it (straight from the sammobile odin file) it caused him bugs. I haven't tried the stock, untouched, unrooted version.
I've said before that LS8 feels unfinished.
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I don't have any bug or freeze. I'm on LS8 with PhilZ kernel btw.
Until UK's XEU is out, I won't call anything "final".
I have the spanish rom, clean install. Without root, pure stock, odexed, not zipaligned... I had thoose problems using custom kernels and rooting my phone! going back to stock, everything is fine. I think that the problem is that some files are changed, I tried cooking my own rom and it didn't worked (ok a "first try").
I think that we must wait some weeks for good kernels, because the development of a kernel requires time. You can make one that boots in a short amount of time, but one without freezes... It should need some weeks.
No freezes, stucks nor bootloops for me. U'll get the best of it if u actually did total wiping rom & kernel by wiper scripts provided by hawkerpaul's especially if u ran custom rom & kernel before.
And u'll get worth battery savings if u wipe the bloatware by TiB & slimmin down ls8 at ur taste, those will grab out crappy ware from ur ram & kill the batt eater. Disable gnow, syncing at certains need & disabling fast dormancy if ur operator doesnt supported.
Just one so annoyed for me & does anyone has idea why : stock browser didn't run & got FC at custom dpi ??? and pls provide me a link a multi dpi playstore to install at stock recovery, the one I had got unsigned to install.
Please give me some respect for useful answer..
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It definitely is a test ROM... There are bugs.:banghead:
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Never had this sort of issues with any ROM before. Sure I had buggy ROMs that crashed apps left and right, but never have I had to worry that forcing a reboot will corrupt the system.
So in my opinion there are two issues here. One being that the phone can freeze in pretty much any app. The other being that holding the volume and power buttons down to force a reboot will ruin the boot sequence somehow.
In some ways, the inevitable freezes bother me the most. On my old 4.0.4 RR AOKP ROM I just to have this issue where scrolling too fast in lists in certain 3rd party apps (like Amazon, Techpowerup, Ebay etc) would freeze the phone and I had to reboot. Well, at least it never broke the OS ...
I got the tip from the official Jelly Bean thread that backing up, wiping and restoring an installation with a boot freeze / loop will in fact bring the system back to life. As to why this works I have no idea.
I also noticed someone talking about possible issues with restoring apps via Titanium Backup, the Android ID and some mismatch. I have never seen the Android ID pop-up in TB though and I assume this is just another developer mantra, like wipe - reinstall - wipe - reinstall. In truth they seem to have no clue what is going on.
Good job Samsung, good job ...
Well. I too think that this is a test release. One for Europe and one for Asia (China releases). We'll have the proof when we will see the next releases in other countries (like UK XEU and/or Nordic NEE). I assume that there will be different PDA's with newer changelog.
But, from my experience, this release is very good. I flashed it from the first day it has been released via Kies and I kept it unrooted since (only disabling some apps). I haven't experienced any of the issues mentioned time and again in this forum and the battery is on par with ICS 4.0.4 LPY for me. 2d10h with 2h screen on.
Maybe I'm lucky or maybe this is the way to go for now (kies and all stock), until the dev and optimizing process matures itself.
Compared to CM10 and LSJ, this ROM have been the the most smoothest and most stable ROM. I haven't encountered any freezes or instability since I installed it last week. However I did loose service last saturday, presumably a RIL crash, but since restarting it have been running problem free for 69 hours.
I have kept it completely stock, but it is rooted through Mobile Odin.
LS8 is not a test rom, Its available via kies so its public final, The fact that its only been released via Spain so far is irrelevant.
All the people moaning about problems are also irrelevant since you will always have some people who have issues after updating to new rom whether its Sammy official or a custom.
LS8 is very stable and very smooth for me.
i never seen such an crappy rom, its unstable.( xwls8)
First, format my card,rom, etc, put xwls8, default kernel.
After 1-2 hours the bugs appears: when i click on almost anything( like any game, my file, es file explorer, stweak, etc), it freeze, then i was force to close and start again the phone, then bootloop.
Or after an force shutdown i stuck at samsung logo.
I tried siyah, dorimanx, etc, wipe cache, etc, etc
Then after 4-5 days of bugs an unlimited shutdown, freezes, etc, i wipe everyting an install 404 xwlq3, stuck at samsung logo, force to install the rom again, etc.
Now im on xwlq3 and dorimanx 5.92 till a new rom appear. This 4.1.2 is not usable.
Previous one, xxlsj, except lag on lock screen, i dont seen serious bugs.
Boy this xwlq3 rom it feel so nice and fast. And no bugs.
If any of you read on siyah , dorimanx, philz, rootbox, etc,etc thread you will see that a lot of us have this problem.
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LS8 is not a test rom, Its available via kies so its public final, The fact that its only been released via Spain so far is irrelevant.
All the people moaning about problems are also irrelevant since you will always have some people who have issues after updating to new rom whether its Sammy official or a custom.
LS8 is very stable and very smooth for me.
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Agreed.
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TheATHEiST said:
LS8 is not a test rom, Its available via kies so its public final, The fact that its only been released via Spain so far is irrelevant.
All the people moaning about problems are also irrelevant since you will always have some people who have issues after updating to new rom whether its Sammy official or a custom.
LS8 is very stable and very smooth for me.
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LS8 feels unfinished.
Yes, people may have issues after upgrading but those people are silly and invariably don't know what they're doing. I am however sure that I don't fall in to this category.
Yes, it may be an official release but even so it seems rushed out to appease the masses who were getting sick of waiting.
Yes, it is you lot who're at fault for rushing Sammy in to releasing sub-par, unpolished updates.
I hope you're all happy!
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No issues experienced whatsoever
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ROM NeatRom Lite 4.2 XWLS8
Kernel Philz 4.00b30
Mods:
23 toggles blue w/rt clock
Automatic Call Recorder
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but is it necessary to change the CSC after flashing this ROM?
I've been using LS8 + Siyah 6.0
Not getting great performance. No hangs/freezes but my battery drains pretty quickly.
Hi!
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, rooted and I'm loving it!! Butter smooth but still few few few microstutters or a bit lag here and there, but a HUGE improvements from the Stock kernel and ROM. I Will maybe flash new to the new Google kernel for S4 GT-i9505 once It is stable with more updates.
My config is;
Adam Kernel v1.5 for GT-i9505
Omega V9 Custom ROM for GT-i9505
and last but not least the latest Crossbreed 7.2... something I don't remember.
Is there any problems running this setup?
I managed to install everything on TWRP 2.6.0.0 Recovery without any sweat. I have ran this setup for almost 2 days now...
And my question is could the custom stuff that I have on my phone brick or be damaged? Or is it completely safe to run this 24/7 without any damage on the android device or problems in the future?
/Yoggi
yogg said:
Hi!
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, rooted and I'm loving it!! Butter smooth but still few few few microstutters or a bit lag here and there, but a HUGE improvements from the Stock kernel and ROM. I Will maybe flash new to the new Google kernel for S4 GT-i9505 once It is stable with more updates.
My config is;
Adam Kernel v1.5 for GT-i9505
Omega V9 Custom ROM for GT-i9505
and last but not least the latest Crossbreed 7.2... something I don't remember.
Is there any problems running this setup?
I managed to install everything on TWRP 2.6.0.0 Recovery without any sweat. I have ran this setup for almost 2 days now...
And my question is could the custom stuff that I have on my phone brick or be damaged? Or is it completely safe to run this 24/7 without any damage on the android device or problems in the future?
/Yoggi
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As long as all is compatible and they don`t interfere there shouldn`t be a problem. If you have spontanious reboots and/or FC`s you`re in trouble
gee2012 said:
As long as all is compatible and they don`t interfere there shouldn`t be a problem. If you have spontanious reboots and/or FC`s you`re in trouble
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Okay thanks for your reply ).
I'm been running Omega 4.3 ROMs for the last couple of weeks, having moved from a stock ROM. Both versions that I've tried (v18 and v19) have been pretty unstable - i.e. prone to spontaneous reboots. I always do a full wipe before flashing a ROM, but it doesn't make any difference.
Has anyone got any recommendations for a good, stable 4.3 ROM?
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I'm been running Omega 4.3 ROMs for the last couple of weeks, having moved from a stock ROM. Both versions that I've tried (v18 and v19) have been pretty unstable - i.e. prone to spontaneous reboots. I always do a full wipe before flashing a ROM, but it doesn't make any difference.
Has anyone got any recommendations for a good, stable 4.3 ROM?
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Feel free to try 4.3 echo,golden,phoenix,carhd and such.You can try all of them and decide which one you like the best
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Repulsa said:
Feel free to try 4.3 echo,golden,phoenix,carhd and such.You can try all of them and decide which one you like the best
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Are there any former Omega users out there who have moved to any of those and found them to be more stable than Omega? (i.e. less prone to reboots)
itm said:
Are there any former Omega users out there who have moved to any of those and found them to be more stable than Omega? (i.e. less prone to reboots)
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i went straight to omega v19 from stock 4.3 and ive never had a single problem with the rom, now on v21 and its as stable as stock id say, no random reboots no crashes or fc's pretty decent imo
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i went straight to omega v19 from stock 4.3 and ive never had a single problem with the rom, now on v21 and its as stable as stock id say, no random reboots no crashes or fc's pretty decent imo
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Interesting, and makes me wonder why I'm seeing these reboots even after a wipe/clean install. Any ideas what sort of thing might be causing the reboots? I use Titanium Backup to restore user apps but not system apps - presumably restored user apps can't cause this sort of thing??
Running Omega for 24 hours on my i9500 with no problems at all so far.
Its been the only stable uncomplicated rom I've tried in the last week for my phone.
Just my thought ..
As you've experienced these problems and others don't, to corroborate or not the hypothesis of a ROM problem, you should promptly evaluate another.
I'm on the amazing GoldenEye v18.1 XXUEML6 .. you may give it a try as it has been flawless for a another bunch than me.
Please share the results.
Cheers