Battery life tip [battery bug] - Moto X General

I know people have been having Mixed Battery life & I found this so I thought this would help. Found it on the Moto X community G+ Page. Thanks if it helps, if not post below, maybe this can be stickied if it's helpful enough.
EDIT 4/21/2015: You can download a permission manager app from the playstore and make sure no apps have the wake device permission & start on boot permission. Unless you know the app needs it.
Give it a few days to test please
BATTERY LIFE TIPS FROM - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116517178872973348174
""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.
Battery Tip 2: Go to the Google Settings App, Location, then turn off Location Reporting. Your phone location apps will still work great, Google Now will also but it won't pop up Transit stops unless you open and refresh. It will still pop up Time To Leave info. There is currently a bug that randomly triggers the CPU to keep active with a constant 7-10%. I narrowed this down to Location or rather one of Moto's custom LocationServices process conflicting. When this happens, your stand by drain increases(loosing 2-5%/hr not doing anything). A reboot will fix it. Read more: #motoxbugs Sadly, I don't believe Moto will fix it. For now, this helps prevent it and lowers the ping rate Google Search uses for location requests.
Battery Tip 3: Android OS is too high(Is it's cpu time 2hr or more after 13hrs)? Disable Android Device Manager in the Google settings App by unchecking the first option. Reboot, twice. Monitor it until your next discharge. If you see a difference, then this is your problem. Test it, by enabling it again and reboot. I found a way to keep it on and not experience extremely high Android OS but I don't have enough testers to be 100% sure it works. This part is an Google issue. For now, you can use Moto's version of this service.
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Things to note, an overnight stand by drain that I've found achievable is 1%/hr. The tips above should help get you there. I've helped and seen users get 0.3-0.6%/hr on stock software and no root. I'll say the X is able to get good stand by but right now for majority of users they'll see the optimal 1%/hr to 1.7%/hr. Even in airplane mode, which is just wrong to me, Android OS being a tad high is the reason why. Hopefully..and I hope, Moto optimizes stand by drain like it did on the Moto G.
That's it for now, have fun. Let me know any good and bad below. Hopefully I can write a post with more tips on my blog to help more.""

drago10029 said:
Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.
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Can you explain why this helps battery life? Is this battery calibration? It is to remove a wakelock? Also, I'm not sure I understand the procedure completely.

drago10029 said:
""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.
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Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

Teksu said:
Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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that is true. but draining your battery down to 0 doesn't actually fully discharge the battery. Companies know this so when it gets that close the phone auto shuts down before it actually fully discharges the battery. Did lots of research on it and I don't think fully discharging the battery to 0 is a problem. Clearly, even then it hits "0" it is not actually at 0 because the phone uses power to **** itself down, thus protecting the battery from actually reaching 0.
This isn't as much of a battery saving tip as a battery calibration thing. It will help your battery charge properly and show your discharge rate properly as opposed to randomly losing a lot of battery all at once because it is reporting wrong as oppossed to your battery actually draining that fast. Or for users that can stay on 0 battery for many hours. Thats a calibration issue that this technique fixes.

Teksu said:
Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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That Gizmodo article is a little too general and misleading. I would recommend the above advice I posted as it's pretty solid. Can't confirm the bugs that were mentioned though but it won't hurt to try some of those tips out if you're experiencing wacky battery lol

what does the following refer to?
...Disable Android Device Manager in the Google settings App by unchecking the first option. ...
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uncheck what first option and what/where is the Android Device Manager? I don't see it in my Apps list.

640k said:
what does the following refer to?
uncheck what first option and what/where is the Android Device Manager? I don't see it in my Apps list.
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In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators
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that's a lot more helpful than the post above. thanks.
does anyone know how/if this interferes with security settings from exchange accounts?

640k said:
that's a lot more helpful than the post above. thanks.
does anyone know how/if this interferes with security settings from exchange accounts?
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Has nothing to do with exchange
Moto X developer edition

rsromano said:
In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators
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I think he was referring to the app "Google Settings" in the app drawer. The first setting is to remotely locate the device and the second setting allows you to remotely lock and erase. I'm guessing the method you described disables both completely.
Google Settings > Android Device Manager > "Remotely locate this device" (uncheck)
On an unrelated note, I've been wrestling with the high amount of wakelocks from NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock. After trying a ton of different options and disabling specific apps and/or services, the one with the most success so far is disabling the scanning of wifi networks even when wifi is off.
Settings > WiFi > Advanced > "Scanning always available" (uncheck)
As best I can tell, that eliminated a majority of the wakelocks I was getting. I still get NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock but it's on the order of a few minutes per 4-5 hours vs. ~1 hour per 4-5 hours. All other apps (tasker, maps, etc) work fine and all other settings are enabled (location reporting, high accuracy location mode, etc).
YMMV but it seems to have helped me quite a bit over the last 24+ hours. I'm sure there are further improvements to be made but at the end of the day yesterday I had 35% battery left whereas in the past it'd be <10%.

In my experience, I leave Google tracking and android device manager on all the time. I get typically get 3 hours on screen time with with at least 24 hours off charger.
I leave them on bc my last device was stolen, and had I left them on, I would have been able to find it quicker.
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Replying so I can find this later. Thanks.
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zAlbee said:
Replying so I can find this later. Thanks.
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You could've also just subscribed or Favorited the thread

zAlbee said:
Replying so I can find this later. Thanks.
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Check the hows your battery life thread. Just about every issue and troubleshooting tip are already in it.
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I disabled a couple of the things you mentioned (I left location reporting on, though, google now navigation works weird without it on), and my wake times went from about 15% down to 1%.
Thanks!

Wow, thanks.
I implemented your # 2 and 3 and now I am getting crazy battery life. Easily makes it through the day with no wifi, lots of talk/text, and about 3 hours of screen time. I maybe have 30-40% after that

Turning off Location Reporting really made a difference for me, thanks!

erikikaz said:
I disabled a couple of the things you mentioned (I left location reporting on, though, google now navigation works weird without it on), and my wake times went from about 15% down to 1%.
Thanks!
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ranick01 said:
Wow, thanks.
I implemented your # 2 and 3 and now I am getting crazy battery life. Easily makes it through the day with no wifi, lots of talk/text, and about 3 hours of screen time. I maybe have 30-40% after that
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vikramkhalsa said:
Turning off Location Reporting really made a difference for me, thanks!
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Glad it helped you people! Unfortunately Kit Kat brought bugs for some people and some of these have helped me to. just it a thanks in OP so people know it's actually useful, also rate the thread!
that is all.

I have to say so far #2 tip works great. I can notice since yesterday that the phone is actually sleeping and my battery doesn't drop.
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Here is what I have for #2. Is it as you suggest, op?

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Battery Drains TOO FAST

Not sure if im the only one experiencing this issue but i think that the battery dies entirely too quickly!!! Being that i have a launch day batch i'm not sure that everyone is experiencing this issue! IT seems like the LESS i use the phone the faster it dies, i know totally contradictory but thats what it seems like any ideas, known tweeks. Let me know
There are a few ways to fix this. Most can be found through a quick search. Trying a task killer, adjusting settings and rooting/flashing a new ROM are some ways to fix that issue.
youngstatus said:
Not sure if im the only one experiencing this issue but i think that the battery dies entirely too quickly!!! Being that i have a launch day batch i'm not sure that everyone is experiencing this issue! IT seems like the LESS i use the phone the faster it dies, i know totally contradictory but thats what it seems like any ideas, known tweeks. Let me know
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Nope haven't had this issue, had mine since launch. If its really an issue for you, buy a new battery and if that doesnt work there are other fixes around this forum that you can try
turn off background data
adjust settings so that things aren't syncing as often
turn backlight from 'auto brightness' to a low setting
turn wifi sleep setting to 'never'
turn off bluetooth, location settings also
i had mine off the charger for 16 hours still had over 80%
timothydonohue said:
turn off background data
adjust settings so that things aren't syncing as often
turn backlight from 'auto brightness' to a low setting
turn wifi sleep setting to 'never'
turn off bluetooth, location settings also
i had mine off the charger for 16 hours still had over 80%
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I hate you, I want your battery.
I think there really are bad batteries out there.
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I hate you, I want your battery.
I think there really are bad batteries out there.
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well, tbh, most of it was in standby. short phone call, some texts, that's about it. it wasn't as if i was putting the phone through the ringer
See if there is a difference between weekdays and weekends.
I do have the same short battery life and my battery will die around 6pm on weekdays if I don't charge it during the day.
However, my evo was able to last all day this last weekend.
The only reason I can think of is that I have weak reception where I work and the phone is probably using full power to keep that connection. Hence the massive battery drain.
If your signal is bad, your battery will die very fast. I work in a giant metal box of a store with a constant 1 bar. My battery drains like crazy. If I disable mobile network it increases ALOT.
Make sure you have the updated radio and there are plenty of battery fixing threads. Custom rom will help a lot as will removing the bloat.
I can cosign on this issue. Last night I had the phone on the charger. I unplugged it because it was fully charged and I don't like keeping my things plugged in all night. I wake up this morning and reach for my phone and it's practially like 25% battery life. It was on standby and I didn't set up Friendstream, Auto Syning, etc. I have everything on my phone set to manual.
interesting thing i just noticed on my battery; i just fully charged to 100% (using battery indicator); i left it on the charge for another 5-10 minutes, then unplugged it
literally couple of minutes later, battery shows 95%; not sure why it's doing that since i don't have any apps running in the background and my signal is fine; after it got to 95%, it seems to start draining normally
this is the 1st time i noticed it; the previous time, it drained normally (100 > 99 > 98 >etc.)
You know why its hard to nail this down?
Its because people say
"i took my phone off the charger and in 4 hours of stand by its now at x%"and that's pretty much it.
Some facts:
Without knowing your db we don't know what kind of signal you have.
All task managers are NOT created equally. Just because the free one you got says there isn't anything running doesn't mean that its not still on in the background. If you are running sub 175mb in free ram then you have stuff running that doesn't need to be. Find a different task manager
If you root the device and download one if the many custom ROMS. Remove all the stuff you do not use. Your baster life will go through the rood. Gsd and other crap that does nothing are huge battery hogs.
If you can't be bothered into doing the above then you aren't going to find any answers. Either but an extra charger or return it. You can fix it but its going to taker you doing something.
timothydonohue said:
turn off background data
adjust settings so that things aren't syncing as often
turn backlight from 'auto brightness' to a low setting
turn wifi sleep setting to 'never'
turn off bluetooth, location settings also
i had mine off the charger for 16 hours still had over 80%
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As i am a tech for sprint, i know about all this and i have all those settings off, wifi, mobile network, Brightness down, bluetooth is always off. And to no avail!!! I must have a bad battery! Seems like store demo i use to show customers last longer, HAHA. Even though if i still see an issue i will just swap a battery out of new one( PERK OF THE JOB)
gqstatus0685 said:
I can cosign on this issue. Last night I had the phone on the charger. I unplugged it because it was fully charged and I don't like keeping my things plugged in all night. I wake up this morning and reach for my phone and it's practially like 25% battery life. It was on standby and I didn't set up Friendstream, Auto Syning, etc. I have everything on my phone set to manual.
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See this is what I'm Talking about, I'll take my phone of the charger in the morning and by the time i get to work 15 minutes later! My phone is like at 70% Without me even touching it, Waking it up. Recieving texts or anything. The roads that lead to my work are well serviced areas of sprint reception so i know my phone isn't looking for signal. This is a major drag!
Aridon said:
You know why its hard to nail this down?
Its because people say
"i took my phone off the charger and in 4 hours of stand by its now at x%"and that's pretty much it.
Some facts:
Without knowing your db we don't know what kind of signal you have.
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This ^----
even just having your phone in a diff. spot on your desk can have WILDLY differnet dB singal values, meaning diff. xmit/receive POWER LEVELS and thusly diff battery usage
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even just having your phone in a diff. spot on your desk can have WILDLY differnet dB singal values, meaning diff. xmit/receive POWER LEVELS and thusly diff battery usage
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My DB is always low(closer to -0 the better) so i know that is not the issue.... next!
With good db that isn't normal drain. Return it for a new one.
Next.
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With good db that isn't normal drain. Return it for a new one.
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Free Swap Here i come
Selling Sprint phones at Radio Shack doesn't make you a tech... I worked at a company called WDS Global a couple years ago. THEY are techs. As a matter of fact, WDS Global handled all the tech support for the EVO on launch day. They even had a rep in my local store.
As i am a tech for sprint, i know about all this and i have all those settings off, wifi, mobile network, Brightness down, bluetooth is always off. And to no avail!!! I must have a bad battery! Seems like store demo i use to show customers last longer, HAHA. Even though if i still see an issue i will just swap a battery out of new one( PERK OF THE JOB)
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Use damagecontrol the ROM in the evo development section of this forum it increases battery life because the dev tweaked internal system it worked wonders for me give that a shot.

▐ 20.2.2011▐ ★UPDATED★Battery Saving Tips★▐

Five Battery Saving Tips for the wp7 os
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1. Make sure you're using the dark color scheme if your screen is AMOLED
2. Use WiFi whenever possible, and disable "ask to join networks"
3. Don't have more than two email accounts on your device
4. Turn off GPS location
5. Turn off Feedback
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Even more tips!!
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Under Settings > System
TIP #1 - Go to Theme > Select a darker color as lighter colors tend to use more power.
TIP #2 - If you have a data plan/service > Turn off airplane mode, Turn off Wi-Fi Mode, Turn off Bluetooth
TIP #3 - Email & Accounts - All the emails you have configures - Under "Download new content" > Select "manually"
(You really don't need to get your emails synchronizing based on a time. If at anytime you want to check you email > Press and hold the top of the screen and select > Sync). Synchronize your mail manually.
TIP #3 - Lock & Wallpaper - Make sure your custom wallpaper is dark in color scheme
TIP #4 - Screen time-out - Make it 30seconds (If you're really not touching anything on your phone for 30seconds, it shouldn't be showing anything right)
TIP #5 - Location - Turn off
TIP #6 - Find my phone - Uncheck "Save my location periodically for better mapping" (Also uncheck "Get results faster")
TIP #7 - Phone Updates - Uncheck "Notify me when new updates are found" (Also uncheck "Use my cellular data connection to check for updates")
Under Settings > Applications
TIP #8 - Games > Connect to Xbox LIVE - You can set this to off if your not always playing app games
TIP #9 - Pictures + Camera - Turn off "Auto upload to Skydrive"
Under the Live Tiles Screen
TIP #10 - Facebook (Make sure you log out everytime you are done).
(credit to gamefrick)
Note: What many people do not realize is that the battery drain might be a human result. Its an exciting new operating system, and many of you are probably playing with it more than usual. I know I am looking at my phone much more than when I had an everyday winmo 6.5
After you get used to it and start treating it like a normal phone, you will notice the battery use start to mellow. Think of it as a new toy that you play with all the time and eventually it gets old and less rapid use.​
If this helps please press the thanks button!
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maxld said:
Changed the radio to 2.14 and after whole day and night my battery barely moved. I have to admit though that I made maybe 3 calls and sent 1 message in that time, still it is very impressive - phone after 19 hours is still running, and has still about 70% of battery.
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Can anyone confirm that the 2.14 radio is optimal for battery life?
What about black vs white backgrounds?
Not works for HD2 port. Battery still leaking very fast. (~24h in standby, 10 minutes in game...).
Already did every of these things... Even if nobody have Amoled screen on there HD2. Still can't make it through a day...
reducing drain...
my hd2 on wp7 lasted 3 days, due to roaming issues..
had data off, 3g off, synch off, no wifi..
but full 3 days, no gaming also, just some sms and phone calls.
looks like normal bat.-draining to me, like on Android or wm6.5 nothing one should wonder about
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Note: What many people do not realize is that the battery drain might be a human result. Its an exciting new operating system, and many of you are probably playing with it more than usual. I know I am looking at my phone much more than when I had an everyday winmo 6.5
After you get used to it and start treating it like a normal phone, you will notice the battery use start to mellow. Think of it as a new toy that you play with all the time and eventually it gets old and less rapid use.
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Really? As I said before, no more than 24 h in sleep mode, and battery is almost dead! Many people are confirmed battery issue.
Check out Screebl from the Market.
Awesome at extending the battery life.
Really Such a nice operating system. But With Few problems on HD2.
1. Really getting hot on lower part of phone after 1/2 hour straight use.
2. Battery charging takes more then 3 hours.
3. Battery drains very fast even in stand by (24 hrs stand by(with 3G on,low brightness,no email,no gps),~30 hrs stand by with out 3G, 12 hours with some use and two email accounts with 3G)
Looking forward for some fixes in next gen WP7.
yeah battery drain for me is pretty quickly.... but I'm pretty sure it's because it constantly restarts it-self... When I solve it I'll see the real battery life.
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Check out Screebl from the Market.
Awesome at extending the battery life.
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Sorry but useless
malloy0 said:
Check out Screebl from the Market.
Awesome at extending the battery life.
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Cant seem to find this app...
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Not works for HD2 port. Battery still leaking very fast. (~24h in standby, 10 minutes in game...).
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How were you able to check that
Disable automatic sync on emails, disable location update on map settings, minimize screen lock timer, disable set automatically on date & time, disable automatic connect to Xbox live. That's all i can add
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Check out Screebl from the Market.
Awesome at extending the battery life.
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hey paulrgod do you have the htc hd2 running on the htc hd7 rom cause i cant seem to put it on mine. if so dude let me kno im from raliegh also my email is [email protected]
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How were you able to check that
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What do you mean how Just leave it on a table for a day and you'll see.. Play in one game during 10-15 minutes with full charged batt. Very easy.
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Disable automatic sync on emails, disable location update on map settings, minimize screen lock timer, disable set automatically on date & time, disable automatic connect to Xbox live. That's all i can add
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Are you kidding? All that stuff is already off. Why you still trying to refuse that batt problem exists?
Because it doesn't! My HD2 lasts a whole 2 days on one charge. I also conditioned the battery - full discharge, turn off, charge fully while OFF, boot. That helped with the battery meter, which was a bit off previously. Other than that, i have all kind of sync settings on, two email accts, connected to live/xbox live, auto brightness and i absolutely don't see battery drainage that's heavier than it was in WM6.5!
Maybe radio 2.15 isn't working well on your operator? That can cause drainage, too. Do you have WIFI disabled when no WIFI is used? WIFI tends to drain battery heavily.
same problem excesive battery drain with wph7 on hd2.
with wm 6.5 , 3 days as normal usage.
with wph7 , no wifi , no 3g , no bluethoot , no data conection , no sync , no mail , ubication disabled , maps ubication disabled , xbox conection disabled , no callings , only in sleep mode , less than 18h. , yes it's a problem.
This is really strange, because my battery lasts about 2 days, including all data on and using it as normal phone - live account is disabled. So I`m very pleased with it, do you guys with lots of drainage have any other apps like HTC Hub running?
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Because it doesn't! My HD2 lasts a whole 2 days on one charge. I also conditioned the battery - full discharge, turn off, charge fully while OFF, boot. That helped with the battery meter, which was a bit off previously. Other than that, i have all kind of sync settings on, two email accts, connected to live/xbox live, auto brightness and i absolutely don't see battery drainage that's heavier than it was in WM6.5!
Maybe radio 2.15 isn't working well on your operator? That can cause drainage, too. Do you have WIFI disabled when no WIFI is used? WIFI tends to drain battery heavily.
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My radio is 2.15, working in 2g network. Wifi always off. Yesterday evening I charged battery, now it is empty. During this time phone was untouched.
Could you tell me is your phone getting warm after using for a while (not game or long talking)?
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This is really strange, because my battery lasts about 2 days, including all data on and using it as normal phone - live account is disabled. So I`m very pleased with it, do you guys with lots of drainage have any other apps like HTC Hub running?
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I rebooted phone to be sure that no any apps are running or holded, nothing changed.

Battery Life: desperate for help

Hey,
I know there are a lot of threads about this topic, and I've read a lot of them on my quest to improve my batterylife. I've come from 4-5% usage in sleep down to 2%, but i still think its to much, and could use some assistance.
Like I said, I read a lot of threads discussing this matter but I would like for someone with a little more experience to take a look at the data and tell me what you think.
so here are some screenshots which I dont understand completely.
So what I dont understand is, cpuspy says, 84% of the time my phone was in deep sleep, but the batteryuseage shows something completly different. it shows the phone has been awake almost the whole time.
but if i'm reading BBS correctly there are no mayor wakelocks occurring.
i looked at my battery before i went to bed last night. it was at 59%. exactly 10 hours later when i woke up, it was at 40%. that means it lost almost 2% an hour when i didnt touch the phone once.
so i know stuff like BLN sucks juice, but i havent gotten a notification last night, and i set a schedule for BLN to turn off turing sleeping hours. and it only blinks for 10 minutes after a new notification has arrived and then stops.
i undervolted the CPU a bit (75mV on every speed).
i calibrated the battery (drained completely, removed for 2 minutes, charged to full while phone was off, at 100% removed it again for 2 minutes, put it back in and booted phone)
i wiped the battery stats
turned off a bunch of stuff, like autoupdate on market and other tips i found here on the forum.
wifi sleep policy is set to when screen turns off (btw. sometimes i doenst reconnect after the phone wakes from sleep, anyone got an idea how to fix that?
i'm running galnet miui with the siyahs 2.3 kernel and the KI4 modem.
now the question is, where does that leave me? what am i missing here?
For one day see what your battery life is like when you COMPLETELY disable BLN. Titanium freeze it or uninstall it. Second screenshot, what is that Imapfolders things? It has a high count (I see 1200), maybe try disabling that for a day just to make sure its not an app acting rogue. Another thing, have you disabled samsung bloatware (IM app, social hub, game hub etc).
Most of your wakelocks are radio related. When the phone gets a data request and wakes up to handle it.
I suspect its the K9 push email account that is doing it - anyway to change that?
adding on these questions that i also faced by the thread starter, how does this affect:
AlarmManager
Android System
40s(40s) Count 2336 0.1%
i believe this might be the contributor to the constant phone wakes?
Remoteconcern said:
Most of your wakelocks are radio related. When the phone gets a data request and wakes up to handle it.
I suspect its the K9 push email account that is doing it - anyway to change that?
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would forwarding my mail to gmail and then getting it pushed from there be better?
from what I've seen on here gmail causes bigger wakelocks. most people recommend using K9. Maybe try a different rom? sounds like a big move however I do know that when running the hyperdroid rom for example most people get amazing battery life. Seen a few nice battery reports with checkrom also
I can confirm battery life on Check Rom coupled with Siyah 2.3 is excellent.
I might be stating the obvious to the OP but have you frozen most of the bloatware in Titanium Backup, ever since i done this battery life has improved substantially.
Also go into Wi-Fi settings > Wi-Fi sleep policy and ensure it is unticked,choose one of the other 2 options
In location and security untick Use GPS Satellites as this will use up lots of battery when it's ticked.
In the Privacy tab untick back up my data as this too will cause battery drainage.
Lots and lots more battery saving ideas, search and you'll find them
well i really like miui so i dont think i'll switch just yet. i'll leave that as a last resort.
i see my mistake here, i should rather be looking at the wakelock count rather than the time correct? K-9 sure as hell has a lot of wakelocks. (counting all wakelocks mentioning K-9, i get more than 8000)
the problem is, my email provider doesnt support push, only imap idle, that must be the reason why its wakeing the phone up so often. although i didnt get any mail last night...
from my understanding push services work a little different, since the app using it doesnt have to be connected the whole time. it gets woken up when the server sends a new message.
i deleted k-9 for now, and i'll see how that reflects on my battery life.
would maybe polling mail every hour be better than using imap idle?
work related i really need a way to get my mail frequently.
jonny68 said:
I can confirm battery life on Check Rom coupled with Siyah 2.3 is excellent.
I might be stating the obvious to the OP but have you frozen most of the bloatware in Titanium Backup, ever since i done this battery life has improved substantially.
Also go into Wi-Fi settings > Wi-Fi sleep policy and ensure it is unticked,choose one of the other 2 options or none at all.
In location and security untick Use GPS Satellites as this will use up lots of battery when it's ticked.
In the Privacy tab untick back up my data as this too will cause battery drainage.
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have done all of that already, like i said, i've read a lot on the forums (cause i myself hate ppl asking the obvious they could've found out by using search for 2 minutes) but thanks for the tips.
only thing i'm not so sure about is the bloatware. since i dont think miui has a lot of that. but i'll look into that.
thanks for all the help so far.
i'll try to look at wakelock count more than on time.
one really anoying thing is BBS force closes A LOT on miui rom. at least i think its rom related, since i didnt have these problems with the other roms i tested since i got the phone.
Hey Phoboss,
please consider the rom is almost non relevant (except eye candy) to battery drain, the kernel makes the difference! I was on Siyah until three days ago with a consumption of 10% in 8 hours during normal usage of the phone, but then i found this Thread, give it a try (i use extreme edition w/o ans probs) forget about setcpu, if the kernel was compiled right, u dont need it!
Furthermore, why do you replicate so many folders in K9, from my POV the Inbox should be sufficient, but I dont know ur provider, push works fine with GMX, even on a freemail acount
If you want to try more, freeze the Calendar App and choose an alternative, from what I have heard, this helps to get rid of most of alarmmanager wakelogs (to be confirmed).
BTW, im on 75% Battery left right now after 20! hours on Battery with moderate usage (some WIFI, lots of XDA App , some calls and browsing, most on 3G which is always on)
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Does your carrier support Fast Dormancy? Because you can turn that off as well to save a few % batterly life if it's not supported. There's usually a phone/model specific code you can type into the dial pad to switch it on/off (I can't remember off the top of my head what the code is but if you search around you'll find it for the SGS2).
Thanks for the tips, I'll look into that.
Here's a little update from last night. Was sleeping for pretty much exactly 8 hours and lost 8% battery in that time. So I came down from 2% an hour to 1%. Still think that's to much though.
The thing is, in the 40 minutes I'm awake now, I've been using tapatalk and surfed the web and I lost another 5% in that time.
This can't be normal can it?
Battery usage is still showing that the phone has been awake the whole night. As you can see on the screenshot below, between 0:00 and 8:00 I was asleep, screen and WiFi where off the whole time, but the phone is shown as awake. I've attached another bunch of BBS stats, this time sorted by count and not time.
(btw. how do you get BBS to show a graph like on your screenshot karpfenhai?)
And isnt Siyahs kernel considered one of the better ones around? Just curious.
Fast Dormancy is not supported by my operator, BUT I've read that it doesn't matter because my operator propagates that to the phones, and they disable it themselves.
Regarding K-9 checking so many folders, that's because I have them sorted by server side rules. I guess I could limit that to work mails.
Thanks again for the help so far.
I used Siyahs kernel for a while and I loved some of the features but Speedmod has it beat in terms of speed (duh! ) and battery life (I had read that multiple times which made me switch and I noticed a drop in battery consumption when switching to Speedmod).
You can check if FD is off as well but if your carrier doesn't support it may as well switch it off rather than relying on the phone to do it for you (I'd read a fair few posts from my fellow Aussies recommending switching off FD because AFAIK none of our carriers support it and it's a battery drain).
BTW - regarding Wifi sleep policy, I've seen people DEMAND that you completely turn off sleep policy as it's a battery drain (like you, i've been doing lots of battery reading and got mine down to very low consumption thankfully) - try comparing BBS with sleep policy on screen off vs sleep policy off and actually switching wifi off completely overnight.
Also, one thing I found useful was using titanium backup to completely freeze apps I wasn't using rather than just relying on the individual app settings. This also helps because it stops them booting when you start up your phone. Speaking of which, get Startup Manager if you haven't already - just like your home pc: turn off everything you don't need
EDIT: my uni mate wrote a pretty good general guide (for installing custom roms/etc as well as batter life tips) that might help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351663
phoboss said:
Thanks for the tips, I'll look into that.
Here's a little update from last night. Was sleeping for pretty much exactly 8 hours and lost 8% battery in that time. So I came down from 2% an hour to 1%. Still think that's to much though.
The thing is, in the 40 minutes I'm awake now, I've been using tapatalk and surfed the web and I lost another 5% in that time.
This can't be normal can it?
Battery usage is still showing that the phone has been awake the whole night. As you can see on the screenshot below, between 0:00 and 8:00 I was asleep, screen and WiFi where off the whole time, but the phone is shown as awake. I've attached another bunch of BBS stats, this time sorted by count and not time.
(btw. how do you get BBS to show a graph like on your screenshot karpfenhai?)
And isnt Siyahs kernel considered one of the better ones around? Just curious.
Fast Dormancy is not supported by my operator, BUT I've read that it doesn't matter because my operator propagates that to the phones, and they disable it themselves.
Regarding K-9 checking so many folders, that's because I have them sorted by server side rules. I guess I could limit that to work mails.
Thanks again for the help so far.
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1% an hour is very good pretty much what i get you cant really get much better than than unless you switch off data and sync and most other things, consider yourself lucky you only lost 1% an hour, if your surfing the web for about 40 mins non stop 5% sounds about right too.
Hello again, it seems you are on the right track, go ahead, its getting better
I had the same issue, 2ma consumption for 3-4 hours after unplugging, then it raised to 14-18ma for no reason, my suspicon was the accu wheather widget, but I didnt do any further investigation cuz I switched the kernel and the issue dissappeared, yay
Bbs can provide some more infos even on alarms, check it:
I still have 35% left and I can leave the house w/o getting panic ;-)
Try the kernel I mentioned earlier, you can only win!
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BBS is force closing like crazy, cant really use it a lot.
the thing is, i still dont have an idea why my phone is always shown as awake. the one time i could access the graphs within BBS it showed the same behaviour. phone was/is awake the whole time.
As far as I know, this is related to miui, I've seen other users using this rom complaining about fc's..
Search for logcat and do a manual dump to gain the desired data.
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I wonder if that constant awake bar is something to do with MIUI - certainly 8% in 8 hours drain isn't constantly awake, it would have drained more.
I route all my email to my Gmail and push that - doesn't seem to give me any battery trouble! I don't know if its a good option for you, or really whether or not its battery efficient, I just really like the Gmail interface.
so i've frozen some apps, wiped dalvik and cache partitions
but unfortunately that didnt really help.
here are some more screenshots (i resetted the data to get a more accurate reading) from the last half hour, during which, as you can see by the screen on time, i havent used the phone.
so do you think its odd that my phone got woken so often during this short time, or am i just to anal about it?
Simple can work well
DramatikBeats said:
from what I've seen on here gmail causes bigger wakelocks. most people recommend using K9. Maybe try a different rom? sounds like a big move however I do know that when running the hyperdroid rom for example most people get amazing battery life. Seen a few nice battery reports with checkrom also
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Just to back this up im running Hyerdroid just checked been running 20hr 15min and on 83% but dont do any fancy stuff just charge the phone when it needs it
like your battery saving method , but it doesnt help you, if your phone dies during a work day. all the testing i did was basically lab tests, i never really used the phone much during this time. if i start getting calls and writing mails all day, the battery will die, thats why i need to find out whats going on.
i just want to know, if what i'm seeing on the first screenshot in my last post is normal or not. from my understanding its just a little odd that, in the approx. 30 minutes that are displayed, my phone was awake a lot, when the screen wasnt even on (i was under the shower and havent touched the phone ones).

[Q] Incredibly annoying battery life on idle, AFTER rooting

I'll start off that I'm a novice android user, I got this phone a month ago and before that I was using a Nokia E63.
Anyway, so I rooted and all that junk, did a factory reset and all that junk, and now my battery is complete garbage on idle.
Before I rooted, when in idle for 8~ hours, the slope was very minimal and I lost about 1-5% battery life. Now, the battery is draining like crazy, to the point where I have to charge several times a day.
I know the problem isn't the fact that I rooted.. but what is!?!
yesterday morning
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Obviously it's this thing called Google Services that doesn't show up *AT ALL* when I was using the phone all yesterday. It seems to only use battery when the phone is sleeping.
Halp!
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The stock kernel is garbage is what it is , install Franco kernel and forget u ever had this issue , rooting your phone didn't cause battery drain like u said ..... Google services could be anything , check your maps app setting
drawde40599 said:
The stock kernel is garbage is what it is , install Franco kernel and forget u ever had this issue , rooting your phone didn't cause battery drain like u said ..... Google services could be anything , check your maps app setting
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The stock kernel is actually very improved to all other efforts and it sleeps likes baby. I'm willing to bet maps is the issue, but it isn't like the stock kernel sucks THAT much.
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joshnichols189 said:
The stock kernel is actually very improved to all other efforts and it sleeps likes baby. I'm willing to bet maps is the issue, but it isn't like the stock kernel sucks THAT much.
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Ya no it dose , i coundnt get over 2 hours screen on time with my normal settings with stock ROM and kernel . screen 70% , GPS , data , Google now , sync all ON . changed to Franco kernel i get 4.4 hours screen on time now , no more heat throttle , no more heat , its smoother , faster just better , something to think about / try , u can always go back just as easy
OK, now this is strange,
at first I thought it was fixed; what I did was update Google Maps. After a few hours, the problem of "google services" came back...
help!!
Keep your phone connected to Wi-Fi while you're sleeping and it will drain much less (I've sometimes seen <5% over 8-10 hours). Keeping your phone on network will continue to "wake it" during the night.
Get GSAM Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats to get a better look at exactly what is draining your battery so quickly.
It has to be one of the Google apps running on the background. Like somebody mentioned, get better battery stats to see what's exactly draining your phone. Also, I've noticed that if I keep NFC enabled, some apps that utilize it, will kill my phone way faster. So check NFC maybe, try disabling it and see if it makes a difference.
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I suggest you try Franco Kernel since you're rooted anyways.
No regrets.
Swagged out of my NeXus⁴ using XDA Premium
I can only underline what ppl said in terms of franco kernel. Easy to patch and insane improvement. And it is for free unless you buy his app. I was laughing when I saw those pics with such a low battery life. I always get 6 hours screen on time.
Gaheris said:
I can only underline what ppl said in terms of franco kernel. Easy to patch and insane improvement. And it is for free unless you buy his app. I was laughing when I saw those pics with such a low battery life. I always get 6 hours screen on time.
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6 hours with data enabled the entire time?
dralways said:
6 hours with data enabled the entire time?
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WiFi..no way he gets that with data as this phone SUCKS on battery life with 3G/H.
Well before I rooted there was absolutely no problem with battery. I use a $15 tmobile plan with no data. I basically use my phone like a tablet. NFC and most other features are disabled.
I'll give that other kernel a shot once I figure our how to do all this...
Hi
Smiert said:
I'll start off that I'm a novice android user, I got this phone a month ago and before that I was using a Nokia E63.
Anyway, so I rooted and all that junk, did a factory reset and all that junk, and now my battery is complete garbage on idle.
Before I rooted, when in idle for 8~ hours, the slope was very minimal and I lost about 1-5% battery life. Now, the battery is draining like crazy, to the point where I have to charge several times a day.
I know the problem isn't the fact that I rooted.. but what is!?!
Obviously it's this thing called Google Services that doesn't show up *AT ALL* when I was using the phone all yesterday. It seems to only use battery when the phone is sleeping.
Halp!
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I had the exact same issue, and there is a problem with the Nexus 4 in that some applications stop the phone deep sleeping, even though the same applications have no issues on other devices. This keep awake seems to happen lower down and isn't recorded in Android as the phone being awake. The same issue appears on Franco kernel (I've tested it) as well so that isn't a fix if this is the problem.
Follow my post here to see if you are affected, then work to find the problem app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36100401#post36100401
If anyone wants to test this with other kernels then:
Download CPU Spy. Reset CPU spy timers to zero, and first check the phone is deep sleeping by leaving for 30 minutes with screen off and USB cable unplugged and confirm Deep Sleep is around 90% or more. Now download Snowfall Live Wallpaper and set the wall paper as active, repeat the above, and see that Deep Sleep is never entered into. Use your favourite battery stats checker and you will find no indication of wake locks. Snowfall Live Wallpaper doesn't even have permission to keep a device awake.
Next set a different wall paper from the stock options (live or static) and repeat the test, note that Deep sleep is STILL not being entered even though the live wall paper is no longer in use. Now from the list of cached processes, remove the cached process for the Snowfall Live wall paper, repeat the test, and now the phone is entering Deep Sleep. So this particular wall paper has the power to stop the phone deep sleeping even when it is a cached (and so stopped) process. Another application that causes this bug is BeWeather & Widgets.
Even un-installing the problem application doesn't return the phone to be able to deep sleep, as the app is still a cached process. This can make it difficult to find the app causing a problem.
Testing these applications on a Nexus 7 and HTC One X causes no issues with the device deep sleeping, ergo, Nexus 4 bug. I'm sure there are other applications causing the same issue.
Regards
Phil
drawde40599 said:
The stock kernel is garbage is what it is , install Franco kernel and forget u ever had this issue , rooting your phone didn't cause battery drain like u said ..... Google services could be anything , check your maps app setting
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It is not garbage at all.
The op must have too many background apps running. Probably has nothing to do with the kernal or rooting..
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I have wifi on almost all the time and I get a full day, 5 hours screen on time. I use franko kernel and aokp.
Google services must be something like lattitude reporting your location, or an app that polls data all the time. Even with
auto sync on, whatsapp syncing and wifi on all day I dont have google services anywhere in my battery list.
Of course, it is entirely possible it is something to do with google now, which I have turned off
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It is not garbage at all.
The op must have too many background apps running. Probably has nothing to do with the kernal or rooting..
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My "multitask" button menu is always empty. I never keep anything voluntarily suspended in the memory (if that's what your talking about)
biffsmash said:
I have wifi on almost all the time and I get a full day, 5 hours screen on time. I use franko kernel and aokp.
Google services must be something like lattitude reporting your location, or an app that polls data all the time. Even with
auto sync on, whatsapp syncing and wifi on all day I dont have google services anywhere in my battery list.
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I originally hated Google Maps (before I rooted) because it used up about 1-5% of my battery with GPS and all other related settings disabled... no problems at all with battery back then. I basically did the same thing after I rooted, but then I started having the Google Services battery problem, where then I re-enabled most of the Google applications I disabled (maps, books, magazines, wallet) and updated them, hoping for Google Services to be satisfied, but nada.
Anyway, today was TERRIBLE. I need to keep WiFi on all the time otherwise Google Services eats my battery. But at the end of school today, I looked at my phone in horror to see that Google Maps took a huge chunk of my battery (and 3 hours earlier there was no trace of Google Maps in the battery status settings)
Battery life today : the bad stuff started happening once I left the mobile service area. Google Maps did not show up on battery settings before that time.
Keep AWAKE FOR AN HOUR???
still not sure what this is, 5% from this app basically translates to another 30-40 minutes of battery life
acceptable wifi usage
CPU SPY:
I just disabled the Google Location Services, I wonder if that would change anything... could it really be that simple? Unlikely.
As for applications, I don't have many... and I don't have a live wallpaper or anything. I keep my phone on the lowest brightness indoors and automatic outside. I try to save every bit of battery I can, and a useless wallpaper or running application doesn't help with that (I uninstalled a few apps like FB that kept on running in the background)
I wish I had 20 hours of battery life... My N4 is empty after 6 hours on CM10 with Francos kernel.
Freeze Maps

Moto X 1st Gen Battery issue.

I've been experiencing serious battery drain lately.
Lasts around 6 hours tops.
Check out the stats. Anyone know how to prevent this?
Drain is almost 3:40 min / 1% discharge. 
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Check if your phone turns off the display after the display timeout. I have seen this happen in Moto X sometimes.. It just stays awake. Restart fixes it.
How about brightness? Set it in Auto Brightness mode. Check your Settings->Display page and check all the fields. Apart from that Screen taking 38% is surprising.
rishi.gohil said:
I've been experiencing serious battery drain lately.
Lasts around 6 hours tops.
Check out the stats. Anyone know how to prevent this?
Drain is almost 3:40 min / 1% discharge. 
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I've been having the same problem. I updated a bunch of apps yesterday, (mostly Google apps) and it the battery seems to be better today. It may be too early to tell, but I'm hoping it was one of the Google apps that draining the battery and that it was corrected with the update.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's battery suddenly got a lot worse. I thought it was Snapchat since I had started using it recently, but the battery usage page doesn't reflect that.
One thing to check is the awake time. If you notice that your device seems to be awake all the time, I'm willing to bet that it has to do with google play services.
If rooted, there is an easy fix via gservices app on market.
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I'm having the same issue. Really only getting about an hour of screen time these days. When I first got the phone it was 2+ hours. Mostly use WiFi vs cellular for data, which I thought should be more battery friendly. I make sure I don't have apps running... I'm thinking maybe my battery has just been getting weaker over time.
Here's a good read on battery wear http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
If you charge once a day like everyone the battery decreases by 15% after a year.
soxfan37 said:
I've been having the same problem. I updated a bunch of apps yesterday, (mostly Google apps) and it the battery seems to be better today. It may be too early to tell, but I'm hoping it was one of the Google apps that draining the battery and that it was corrected with the update.
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I downloaded the gapps fixer from the Play Store but after installing it and rebooting I could no longer send e-mails via the gmail app (clicking the "send" icon would do nothing)
guruzen said:
Check if your phone turns off the display after the display timeout. I have seen this happen in Moto X sometimes.. It just stays awake. Restart fixes it.
How about brightness? Set it in Auto Brightness mode. Check your Settings->Display page and check all the fields. Apart from that Screen taking 38% is surprising.
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Brightness is already set to auto. Also, I've check the settings and display page. Its as it should. I wiped out cache partition and it improved a little. Though I didn't saw significant change by doing that. It still runs for max 6-7 hours. That's it.
have you tried to clean battery stats from recovery?
eldar4uk said:
have you tried to clean battery stats from recovery?
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Doesn't actually do anything. People need to stop facilitating this dumb myth.
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This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you. It has no impact on your battery life.
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rishi.gohil said:
Brightness is already set to auto. Also, I've check the settings and display page. Its as it should. I wiped out cache partition and it improved a little. Though I didn't saw significant change by doing that. It still runs for max 6-7 hours. That's it.
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May be u need to calibrate your battery. Try to put the phone in charge and let it reach 100% and post that dont remove the charger for 4-5 hours. This is a method to calibrate. Try this and lets see if it helps.
And, I see that you are in H+.. Try using your phone in 2G for a day and observe the battery patterns.
You should clean battery stats from recovery.. Have you tried this?
Mine will drain fast but then it will sit at 1% for several hours before finally shutting off. I have not found a fix and it's been going on for a few months now.
SmokeyDP said:
Mine will drain fast but then it will sit at 1% for several hours before finally shutting off. I have not found a fix and it's been going on for a few months now.
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u let the battery die out then recharge to full without switching it on. Once complete boot the phone and when booting is complete then remove the charging cable.

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