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Which one you guys think is better? And would buy?
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really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.
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really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.
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Will have to agree with the ice-man...
It's too early to talk about, however I'm going with the Arc, since my experience with Samsung's software was the worst
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Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
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Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
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HTC has the upper hand since they started first with Android, "HTC Magic G1", so I think they are more experienced than Sony Ericsson, but with time I'm sure SE will catch up hopefully
And you can't stop people from complaining, some complain about 2.4 already
I'll pick Arc for sure. The design is way better than any other competitors. Looking into the released vedio of Arc, the software development capability of SE can be trusted. I think they just need some very little time to catch up.
Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.
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Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.
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Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??
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Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??
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Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^
Ambroos said:
Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^
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I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.
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I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.
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I don't even think they tried, to be honest. Sony Ericsson has always tried to differentiate with their very own style of software. Every Sony Ericsson-device ever released has a very distinct Sony Ericsson-feel, if you know what I mean. With a Nexus phone they'd have to completely drop all software changes and just provide the hardware. They couldn't add some Walkman or Cybershot stuff, no BRAVIA engine, nothing, since it'd all have to be stock Android. And that is something Sony Ericsson just doesn't even want to do. (It's also why they ditched Windows Phone 7)
Atrix, of course
Imo : None of them.
If you got a 1ghz Smartphone atm,dont change it.
Why ?
1)Arc has also a 1ghz CPU like the others,yes it will be a bit faster but nothing from the other world.
2)SGS2 and Atrix sound very sexy but they are very expensive.
3)Quad-core Tables coming into August,and mobiles phones a bit later. So you'll gonna have to refresh phone again in 4-6 months =p
I am sticking to the X10 for now,im gonna skip the "Dual-Cores" and wait directly for the quads if i buy a new phone...besides...a mobile phone with quad-core cpu's....where the hell are we going?. Im seeing a Mobile Phones crisis coming...people are not gonna be able to keep up buying phones one after another if they are outdated in less than 5 months...jeesus...
That said,the SGS2 has more than double the power of the Arc,so that tells it all.
Respect.
Good news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-buy-out-ericsson-their-mobile-division-says-wsj
I think so. Sony has generally been on or near the bleeding edge of technology, whether it be beta tapes, OLED screens or blu-rays. I expect a lot of good things from this buy out. Don't fail me now Sony!
What do you guys think?
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Good news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-buy-out-ericsson-their-mobile-division-says-wsj
I think so. Sony has generally been on or near the bleeding edge of technology, whether it be beta tapes, OLED screens or blu-rays. I expect a lot of good things from this buy out. Don't fail me now Sony!
What do you guys think?
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I LUV Sony........
N Luv Each n every thing released by it..........
Sony is Best....
Its the only Brand, Which thinks of giving the customer extra......
Yep thats good news!
best idea ever..
ericcson was the one failing.
it's funny, stock market analysts called this one long ago. people on here all disagreed..
All kinds of epic things are going to come of this!
About time
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I love Sony they are awesome.
make.believe
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so i guess devices will be called SONY SONY ..
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so i guess devices will be called SONY SONY ..
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sony sonyson?
Should be a smart move. Cant wait to see there first release smartphone.
I like Sony Sonyson. Sounds awesome!
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Interesting to say the least. Looking forward to checking out their first unique release after the buyout. I'd expect a lot more interaction and compatibility with other Sony products for starters.
Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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nah..
that would bury them and they know it.
this will be the best decision imo.
sony will have better business ethics and try to actually be a leader
Sony couldn't afford to buy Ericsson, the rumours are that Sony would purchase Sony Ericsson aka the Ericsson mobile division.
I've always like Ericsson phones, so this would be a slight disappointment to me, but if Sony can put proper audio processors in their walkman range and better image processing in the cybershot phones and they use nicer materials for their phones then I would continue supporting them.
Imagine a Z Walkman phone?
Source?
@topic: I really like Sony. I have one Xbox, but some further integration with all of their devices (Vaio series, Bravia TV's, cybershot cameras, PS3/PSP/PSVita) would be nice. (would love to see thing related to Arc and PSVita, it would be AMAZING *-*)
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it's better than anything else..
they would probably go out of business otherwise
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Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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Sony locked PS3 to sell games.
And why would they lock android?
Woo ho I have a jailbroken PS3.
Thanks geohot!!
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Sony epic-sson
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quanium said:
This could be a good thing technology wise, and possibly a bad thing software wise. Either way I doubt sony will abandon the open-ness of the android platform as they are using it as part of the marketing ploy currently on the xperia line. Should be good things to come.
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Can you explain to me how it might be a bad thing software wise?
Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
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personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.
source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden
I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!
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I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
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I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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Engadget. go read.
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027
RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
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If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
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Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.
Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
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all i have to say to you is. your an ass.
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Engadget. go read.
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what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325
lol, pwned
Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
I really don't get it sow much people want an xperia play 2 or a phone like this but sony keeps saying no, why :s make an xperia play HD or at least a phone wits psych controls is enough for the most i think
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Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
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+1
on my opinion H/W controler is much better that touch control .
also xperia play 2 was one of my best wishes !
but now , don't care , really don't care sony waht sony said . cause they already don't know what they wanna do
Every article that says this is basically regurgitating the same thing: such and such "Squashed Rumors".
What rumors. What did he say EXACTLY? That's what I want to know, because the media (especially tech media) is very good at hearing something that isn't said.
Personally, I think that with a focus on the playstation experience, an xperia play 2 is inevitable.
I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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Yeah, me too. A shame that they are not planing it just yet.
If it wasn't for the release price of the Xperia Play, I think that more people would have bought it. At least here, in Portugal.
It's still too early to be announcing the Xperia Play 2 cause the Vita was released a few months ago.
I bet SE were thinking, "How great are we, a part of a gamepad that is sort of a touchscreen, not buttons? Aren't we clever and innovative?"
Hmmm... No.
Hindsight is good; foresight Is better.
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I think the decision as of now would be no more XP2
Bcz XP is successfully as a play phone, but for help much to expend the PlayStation @ Android market.
I think for Sony, their aim is to sell the game but not just the phone.
Sony has sunk a lot of cash into the slow to react vita.... This is the reason for no ics.... Or a ver. 2......
(?) If you were in sony's shoes would you Not do the same thing?
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It wont be a Xperia play 2 it will be another version if the vita with phone capability or something along those lines
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It's easy to understand: if the Playstation Certified brand becomes a success then maybe we'll see a Xperia Play 2.
I don't get why Sony tries to piss off so much the XPlay owners/commmunity. Instead of continuously giving out bad news for the device, they should try to reconcile with us by giving something else in change.
Although Sony is a nice company with great ideas, concepts and products, they seem to fail at this matter. I am still waiting for a good update for XPlay with many new additions.
It won't be an Xperia Play 2. It'll be a "Playstation Phone"
It won't be either, Sony wanted to kill the play ever since they found out someone bought one instead of a vita.
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Whatever they do, a phone with Vita OS won't stand a chance.
First, majority of people need their phone to be dependable and secure, and NOT be a "plaything". An OS that evolved around a game console simply won't be treated seriously by consumers.
Second, Apps from all the major players are required such as google map, gmail, facebook, twitter, flash player, whatsapp, youtube, dropbox, etc... needless to say there's always arm-twisting between these, and other companies, to prevent any new OS from succeeding.
Without a serious image and support from these companies, a phone running on such an OS won't hit a critical mass required to attract app/content developers, and it will flop even harder than Xperia PLAY.
At this time, the next Xperia Play's best OS choice is still Android. But even then, I think Sony really dislike the idea of Playstation ecosystem sitting on top of Android. They may think it changes too fast, too many different hardware, or difficult to control piracy.
So even the best choice is not appealing. So I think Sony won't be putting Playstation content on Smartphones for years yet. And that's a shame because It think that's exactly what we all want happening now.
If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
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If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
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I'm seriously hoping HTC produces a phone with a gamepad. I've had a thing against sony for a long time (going back to before PS3 launched, but its gotten ever worse ever since). I was seriously biting the bullet to get this phone for its gamepad functionality. I've always wanted an HTC phone, and if they manage to come out with a game phone with decent specs, I'll be all over it. Anything to shoot sony the bird.
If they gave the xperia play higher specs and made it more future proof then they would be seeing them starting to fly out now. Ironic at e3 they were saying they only put out the best.
This xperia play belongs in 2010
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Sony announced a partnership with HTC to continue making PS certified handsets. Also PS Suite is getting renamed to PS Mobile.
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We'll see if HTC picks up the xperia plays torch.
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Sony announced a partnership with HTC to continue making PS certified handsets. Also PS Suite is getting renamed to PS Mobile.
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It's just sad to see a company this lost, they don't even know how to stand up on their own, and they have never knew.
And this time I bet that they are going to fail even more with the PS-certification-idea and the concept of a smart-phone with gaming performance.
Perhaps we will maybe see the same shell of the Xperia Play but with the other equipment that the Sony-engineers had with the HDMI-output or MHL-capable USB, but it depends on how lost Sony feel I believe.
And one thing I know for sure is that, even if it stands HTC on the device, I won't buy it and let Sony make a profit out of me again, hope they just don't spread their dirt to HTC.
And may I ask for the source so I can read some more around the news perhaps?
Thanks in advance.
Friendly regards RazerBlader
I should have never switched from HTC to Sony Ericson at the first place.
Damn. Gamepad.
But, seriously I hope HTC decides to release a phone with a dedicated gamepad with this shiny new PS certificate.
sources:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/htc-joins-sony-as-a-maker-of-playstation-certified-handsets-pla/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwiCZKK0cI
http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
Mobile gaming stuff starts around 1:03:28
I like how there was no mention of the Play when they talk about bringing gaming to Android. It's like the shameful bastard child that lives in the attic . If you watch the conference, the HTC announcement pretty much kills any possibility of a Play2 so now we can finally lay those to rest.
bornotty said:
I should have never switched from HTC to Sony Ericson at the first place.
Damn. Gamepad.
But, seriously I hope HTC decides to release a phone with a dedicated gamepad with this shiny new PS certificate.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/htc-joins-sony-as-a-maker-of-playstation-certified-handsets-pla/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwiCZKK0cI
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I don't see it happening. They released the phone+gamepad and it didn't go so well. It doesn't seem cost effective anymore to add a gamepad which we know has issues with ICS. HTC will probably keep the handset thin and lightweight using on-screen controls.
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http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
Mobile gaming stuff starts around 1:03:28
I like how there was no mention of the Play when they talk about bringing gaming to Android. It's like the shameful bastard child that lives in the attic . If you watch the conference, the HTC announcement pretty much kills any possibility of a Play2 so now we can finally lay those to rest.
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Hilarious and true
I wouln't be surprised if HTC makes a gaming smartphone after this.
Aw f*ck.
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oh sony
you should be hones from firs and tell us that you can't support your products ...
i wish samsung or HTc had game expedience like sony , i'm sure they support was better than sony-liar
I highly doubt Sony will allow HTC to create a phone with a dedicated game pad. I believe they will want to keep that idea in house, the playstation certification is just allowing ps store and ps pocket for their new devices, similar to the Xperia s
Not that it matters, everything announced from last years e3 concerning phones turned out to be vapourware
I have never cared for HTC or its sense UI. I realize there are probably more fans of HTC's sense UI then any other UI overlay. That aside I would love it if every manufacturer made at least 1 phone a year with stock vanilla android. And a for HTC with the Play mobile. I dont see them making a gamepad phone anytime soon. Remember HTC announce some months ago that people preferred thin phones over phones with big batteries. Personally I like the slight chubbiness of the PLAY, yeah its thicker then most phones but then with the gamepad I think its just right. So I really do not see a gamepad+phone from HTC if they are sticking to the "thin is in" routine.
What will happen to our beloved Xperia Play ?
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I don't see it happening. They released the phone+gamepad and it didn't go so well. It doesn't seem cost effective anymore to add a gamepad which we know has issues with ICS. HTC will probably keep the handset thin and lightweight using on-screen controls.
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THIS gamepad has issues with ICS, and the original programming and setup of the phone. Doesn't mean it can't be done with a new pad designed for ICS from the ground up.
Not holding my breath though
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What will happen to our beloved Xperia Play ?
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Will continue to kick ass! HTC with PlayStation is like the NXT Xperia phones. PlayStation experiences on non-PlayStation devices.
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Sony has already resigned it to the dustbin. In hindsight, it was foolish to believe that Sony could make a device which was equally good at gaming and being a smartphone.
I'm going to keep the PLAY as a decent handheld emulator and buy a phone which sole purpose is to be a great smartphone (HTC One X?).
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Sony has already resigned it to the dustbin. In hindsight, it was foolish to believe that Sony could make a device which was equally good at gaming and being a smartphone.
I'm going to keep the PLAY as a decent handheld emulator and buy a phone which sole purpose is to be a great smartphone (HTC One X?).
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Yes, go for it. I'd do the same but I'm stuck until next April
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At around 1:44 in that clip you can hear how he says "and we are going to leave that feature", so don't dream to much about something more like this.
But then I see more why they change their name from PS suite to PS Mobile so that it will fit in even more into their new thinking, and as a positive effect to see them deliver this PS pocket for every brand is that they don't have to develop everything on their own.
And you can practically say that they are giving away their own trademark (Playstation) for free (with a cost for the certification of course) and throw it like a bone at the community so they maybe get some development for free(?)
And get their trademark even more respectable, and perhaps you will see more real game-pads in the future, but not from Sony themselves perhaps, at least as I somehow manage to turn the facts around xP
And (the last and ) if it someday comes out an HTC with a real physical game-pad, PS certificate and real potential hardware added to the receipt, then I wouldn't doubt to get it since HTC seems to be more aware of how they wanna delight their customers with development and updates, so maybe that could be Sonys rescue in the long race, to let every other manufacturer have a taste of the Playstation-trademark in their devices
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At around 1:44 in that clip you can hear how he says "and we are going to leave that feature", so don't dream to much about something more like this.
But then I see more why they change their name from PS suite to PS Mobile so that it will fit in even more into their new thinking, and as a positive effect to see them deliver this PS pocket for every brand is that they don't have to develop everything on their own.
And you can practically say that they are giving away their own trademark (Playstation) for free (with a cost for the certification of course) and throw it like a bone at the community so they maybe get some development for free(?)
And get their trademark even more respectable, and perhaps you will see more real game-pads in the future, but not from Sony themselves perhaps, at least as I somehow manage to turn the facts around xP
And (the last and ) if it someday comes out an HTC with a real physical game-pad, PS certificate and real potential hardware added to the receipt, then I wouldn't doubt to get it since HTC seems to be more aware of how they wanna delight their customers with development and updates, so maybe that could be Sonys rescue in the long race, to let every other manufacturer have a taste of the Playstation-trademark in their devices
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