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This is strange. I know everyone is probably sick of these battery discussion threads but something weird has been happening.
I have ATK and UltimateJuice and with the two I can go 8 hours at night and lose MAYBE 1% battery. If I then use the phone normally it will last about 2-3 days with around 1% loss per hour (more or less, depending). Well, I find after opening numerous apps the phone begins to lose more battery per hour, sometimes upwards of 3-5%. I check ATK and nothing has changed that I can see. After restarting the phone the charge lasts longer and depletes at a much slower rate. So, this begs me to ask:
What is causing this and why?
and, How can I stop it?
All insight is appreciated! Thanks.
Notes: - same location for both cases
- WiFi enabled in both cases
- GTalk and syncing the same
Anyone at all?
i have an average of 8-9% battery loss overnight with only Google account on an active sync. over the day it'll drain randomly too. sadly.
no idea why but i'm living with it.
People well tell you not to but get ATK. I ignore all apps for syncing and important stuff and have it kill stuff like gallery, etc. I found it helped a lot with saving battery. UltimateJuice helps a lot with battery as well. I'm at 70% and it has been over a day an a half now.
the think i learned about all those auto *whatever* programs, they always end up causing more problem than what they solve
i only use them to manually end task apps that i don't want to have in memory anymore
otherwise i just leave them running
no effects on battery life
the battery life is more related to the WiFi usage & GPS usage
if you are not using any of those 2 just manually slide down the tab and click them off
you can go a whole 24+ hr if you keep GPS and WiFi off, and only use 3G/voice in moderation
Some of you may have noticed that battery life on this phone can be both unbelievable and mediocre. I've been trying to figure out what can trigger and cause mediocre performance and I'm at a loss. The problem is, there doesn't appear to be a smoking gun. No obvious wake locks. No rogue Apps. I have Carrier IQ disabled by System Tuner. Google Now is off. What I'm running right now is pretty bare bones. And the kicker is my phone is sleeping, as can be seen in the shots below. The vast majority of the time my phone was off the charger it was in deep sleep mode.
I noticed my phone in excessive drain mode Saturday so I let it run over night and into the next day, so that BBS and GSam could pick up as much data as possible, including sitting idle overnight and very little use throughout yesterday.
Here are some shots to show the story. The graph, which is definitely steeper than when idle drain is normal, which resulted in idle drain of about 6% per hour. Also as can be seen in these shots, there is not a wakelock problem. Deep sleep shows as 12 hours 38 minutes, Awake time of 1 hour 8 minutes, and screen on time of 1 hour. So, my phone was only "awake" for 8 minutes when the screen was off out of almost 14 hours according to BBS.
I did notice and oddity here though. BBS listed the unplugged status as 13 hours 47 minutes, while the phone's battery meter listed it at 12 hours 13 minutes.
Attached are the shots I took at 19%, as well as a final battery meter shot after charging the phone to full while powered off and restarting, where it's been purring like a kitten in deep sleep.
Part of me is beginning to believe there is a bug with the battery gauge. What do you guys think is going on?
Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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gm007 said:
Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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Done. Although I won't know if any attempts to resolve the issue have worked until the idle drain triggers again (or doesn't).
Thanks for the advice.
Well unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. The heavy deep sleep drain again triggered after a bit over one full day. I charged to full last night and let sit over night where it drained 6% per hour with no obvious culprit. Anyone else have any suggestions?
It seem that your signal is week, did you get stable signal and have you tried airplane mode, to find out how much battery drain in this mode?
Also, did you disable LG MLT? This is a massive app from LG, can consumed about 150 MB RAM.
This might sound boneheaded, but what about just resetting the phone. Maybe some system app is causing some type of memory leak and thus draining your battery. Also disable wifi when you're not using it.
I don't think it's signal related. I get an excellent signal at work and the idle drain still occurs. Also, it happens whether wifi is on or not. I have not disabled MLT, as I'm not concerned about RAM, just running processes. Rebooting the phone eliminates the issue, so something is obviously getting hung. The really odd thing is I was draining 6%/hr overnight, all while the phone was in deep sleep, yet my top battery consuming category was the screen at 35%, with just 1 hour of screen on time of 10 hours off the charger. If something was cranking in Android System that caused 40% drain overnight I would have expected Android System to be higher. It doesn't make any sense.
I may just have to factory reset.
My battery's been great until couple of days ago when I turned on GPS and Voice Notification (for speaking out names when phone call/message comes in). After I noticed the abnormal battery drain, I turned off those two options, because that's the only thing I did differently before noticing the drain. However, that didn't help... yet. I needed to do a reboot and battery's been fine again. Not sure if those two were the actual culprit, or just coincidence.
Have you changed any settings right before you noticed the drain? Just a thought.
had the same issue., wakelock detector, BBS, GSAM nothing could show what was eating the battery. i use mobile browsing a lot and almost 8/10 times this battery drain was happening with chrome , chrome beta and firefox browsers.
Only thing thats helping me is the Greenify app . Greenified the chrome and firefox and almost all the cloud apps and the battery is now much much better.
still ...IT IS AN PROBLEM to be found..
To provide a bit more info on this, attached is a pic of my reboot a couple hours ago (marked by the thin white vertical line). The change in the slope of the drainage line is drastic. Also, notice the small hump after the reboot? The line actually increased a bit, fell, then flat lined. More and more I'm beginning to suspect the battery gauge, but I just don't know.
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I have the same situation after charging. Even in"deep sleep" it would chew through the battery. Now I just reboot the phone after charging and it plays nice. The gerbil on the wheel seems to take a break and rest.
To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.
i got the same issue which is very annoying, have over 85% deep sleep, no wake lock, battery draining like crazy, and it happens randomly. I wonder if factory rest fixes the problem, or hardware issue
i have done a bit testing for this random drain,
with mobile signal on ==> huge drain
without mobile signal on and only phone signal ==> huge drain
airplane mode ==> no drain
so i believe it is a bug within the phone software, actually sometimes the random drain started after a phone call
I've been getting the drain too in the past few days. Last time i could fix it by factory resetting, but obviously I don't feel like doing that once per month. What I do know is that flashing another stock ROM (kdz) without factory resetting doesn't fix it. However last night I figured i'd try disabling WiFi (kept it on during the night until now) and I only drained 1% in 5 hours, down from 3% per hour. Perhaps this bug is related to WiFi.
Have you disabled LG MLT? It acts like CIQ for internal LG purposes. I have personally seen it cause mass wakelock in unexplained situations. If I leave everything on overnight under 95% battery, I will get around a 3% drain in about 7 hours. Pretty normal. The first 5% on these batteries seem magical. At 100%, with everything on, I wake to 100%.
Yup, frozen in TiBu. Will be factory resetting however when I get home as GSAM grabbed my attention. Never were system things so high up the list when i had no drain.
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htcm7 said:
To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.
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I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.
Ok and which stock rom does not do that?
shilent said:
I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.
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Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.
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Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.
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Guys could you write which stock rom does this wakelocks for you so we could eliminate corrupt firmwares?
For example I experience these wakelocks on latest F international version.
Hi,
I got my second android phone (LG G2 obviously) this christmas, and I haven't had time to properly use it (I don't have a micro SIM yet). I noticed that my battery is going empty pretty fast, although I heard this phone has a amazing battery. My friend got this phone too and he told he's been on one charge for about 36 hours with constant wi-fi connection, app downloading, playing games etc. so I figured something's off. I charged the device before going to bed and when I woke up (10 hrs later) battery was on 85% (only 2 MINUTES of screen time!!!!) and I had no apps running on the backround, no nothing. So now I'm thinking is there some easy fix for this or should I return it and get a replacement? Also something weird I noticed yesterday was that even though I don't have a SIM card yet, but 16% of the battery was used by the phone application. I did some screenshots of battery usage today and yesterday too if anyone's interested.
There are literally dozens of similar threads... suggest you start searching.
And I literally have gone through 90% of them so I decided to start a new thead. Do you (or someone) think that a factory reset could help? And the next question might sound stupid, but if I do a factory reset then does the warranty remain? Better safe than sorry I guess
I just played 4 minuts of hill climb racing and lost 3% of my battery, this is not normal. Does anyone even have a solution for this? All I see on other threads is questions and questions, but I don't see anyone saying "That worked and my battery life is normal now"
It's normal if screen is bright. Especially if carrier bloat is still there. Post screens, all you have, and what carrier. The phone could have been sick in a search state.
I don't think my phone is tied to any carrier, it was bought from just a regular electronics shop, but frankly I did a facory reset and didn't realize that all my screenshots will be gone too. Do you really think it's normal that 10 hrs of idling causes 15% battery loss? And it has the stock LG apps (safety care, life square, cell broadcast etc.). What do you mean by "The phone could have been sick in a search state."? My screen brightness is on 70%.
It's normal with bloat in it. They all have bloat stock. 70 is high and can eat at the battery pretty good. I mean it could have software glitched and was struck searching for activation behind the scenes. Use Wake Lock Detector and see what is keeping it awake.
This, almost 20% drop was caused by downloading 3 apps (facebook, facebook messenger and twitter), updating ~10 apps (all done via wi-fi) and rearranging my home screen.
Steamer86, are you sure? My friend told me that he has been 36 hrs on one charge without changing any settings and just downloading apps, playing games and testing the phone.
Your idle is great at that point in time. Facebook is a battery killer. That's a lot of activity with 70% brightness all the time. It's 17% and medium higher side usage and an hour+ of screen time. What are you expecting? At this rate with 70% constant screen and Wi-Fi pushing pretty good you would get almost 6 hours OST. That isn't bad bud.
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Your idle is great at that point in time. Facebook is a battery killer. That's a lot of activity with 70% brightness all the time. It's 17% and medium higher side usage and an hour+ of screen time. What are you expecting? At this rate with 70% constant screen and Wi-Fi pushing pretty good you would get almost 6 hours OST. That isn't bad bud.
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I hope you are right, but for helping and giving advice I'm going to hit that 'thanks' button
This night i lost 18% of my battery and my phone was almost all the time on deep sleep.
But i did notice something weird, battery usage shows that Android OS is using up most of my battery and when I press on it and then hit the back button then the Android OS changes to something called surfaceflinger for a millisecond (check the screenshots)
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This night i lost 18% of my battery and my phone was almost all the time on deep sleep.
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Can you try putting your phone in airplane mode and then turn on Wi-Fi? If you aren't using a cell carrier than there's no need to keep that on.
See how this works in increasing battery life for you.
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As the title says, standby battery is awful.
I have all the bloatware disabled, only things on push are gmail and facebook messenger.
Cell standby is also sitting at 20% battery usage, no matter what, 2nd on the list behind screen time. Note 3 had exactly the same issue where cell standby is concerned. None of my other phones have had this issue, including my S2 with buggy as hell CM11, OnePlus One, Moto G LTE, etc.
No matter what I do, even with everything disabled and on airplane mode, there's a constant 1% battery drain every hour.
In my Note 3's case, this only happened on stock samsung firmware. When I flashed CM11, the issue went away completely. Something like 0.3% drained per hour instead.
So to me the issue is with Samsung's crappy software. I know the battery life was woeful on the Note 4 anyway before an update came in to fix things up a bit. Maybe they're saving the fixes for 5.0?
I know a new update for the N910C was released a couple of days ago too, but not available on European models yet.
Anyone else having these issues?
I dont have this issue at all my friend if i were u id try a complete wipe 1st, some people have had this issue too so returning could be an answer
Same here...
I only lost 4% battery overnight and don't have this problem too
20% battery loss on standby but mobile data was enabled.
^ you may have a bad app and/or bad signal
I have 4 bars lte at home, 2-3 bars at work, wifi always full signal at both work and home, one is ac 5ghz, other n 2.4ghz, no difference in drain either way.
Ive done a factory wipe 3 times now, even through recovery once. No change. Better battery stats and gsam both report no rogue apps, and ive also tested by having no apps installed, with and without bloatware disabled.
Im not really keen on the idea of voiding my warranty to test other kernels etc, and the only other option is to flash the ank5 update to test.
Ive attached another screenshot showijg the issue better. The drain gets noticeably worse after the first 50% or so, but that could be caused by many things, like inaccurate readings.
Like i say though, 1 of my 2 note 3s had the same issue. Could well be a faulty wifi/cellular chip.
Ignore the time its been on, the same thing happens during a day of heavy usage when in standby, same level of drain constantly.
1%+ may not seem that much to a lot of people, but with my usage i should get through 2 days regardless. It should be less than half of what it is. From the curent reporting in the battery stats, im losing almost 50% of my battery in standby over a day and a half or so.
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Ignore the time its been on, the same thing happens during a day of heavy usage when in standby, same level of drain constantly.
1%+ may not seem that much to a lot of people, but with my usage i should get through 2 days regardless. It should be less than half of what it is. From the curent reporting in the battery stats, im losing almost 50% of my battery in standby over a day and a half or so.
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Is location / sync off? Those a major battery drain during standby.
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Is location / sync off? Those a major battery drain during standby.
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The only things enabled for sync right now are the basic google apps such as chrome, calendar etc. They rarely sync though, and no other phone I've used in the last 2 years has had an issue with them.
Samsung sync constantly returns errors so I leave that off.
Last thing I'll be trying tonight is a full wipe without disabling any built in apps. Its doubtful, but maybe one of the core shamsung apps are trying to communicate with a disabled app or something. I really don't know.
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The only things enabled for sync right now are the basic google apps such as chrome, calendar etc. They rarely sync though, and no other phone I've used in the last 2 years has had an issue with them.
Samsung sync constantly returns errors so I leave that off.
Last thing I'll be trying tonight is a full wipe without disabling any built in apps. Its doubtful, but maybe one of the core shamsung apps are trying to communicate with a disabled app or something. I really don't know.
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Any update?
My n910c is terrible too. 15% battery loss in 3 hours of standby alone! Wtf! Tried every battery saving trick' no location on etc...
i would suggest u do few thing while u get on bed next time,
Full charge your phone and unplug before you on bed,
1. Restart the phone while on charging,after restart go to home screen and lock the screen and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning u wake.
2.Left the phone with your daily apps running,full charge and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning too when u wake.
this is how i solve those apps running not right.
like the screenshot below,
An apps running at night drained 30% battery within 6hours & 30mins & without switch on the screen or touch anything since i'm asleep *with wifi on*
2nd screen shot shown that cm browser running and consume 94% of processing among 30% battery
while cpu only running 20mins since i had weather & sync on during night.
After that i report to cm team and they send me latest version,
after re-install my phone just back to normal.
now my N910c note 4 is consuming 1% every 1.5hours standby with wifi/3g connected *my area 4g only 1~2 bar so i changed to 3G*
average daily usage were 4.5~5.5 hours screen on time with social apps,browsing infomation,checking e-mail every 1or2 hours,reading news with flipboard,news app,drawing something,watch some youtube video & with auto brightness but indoor most of the time.
hope this would help you
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Any update?
My n910c is terrible too. 15% battery loss in 3 hours of standby alone! Wtf! Tried every battery saving trick' no location on etc...
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I did a full wipe, installed ANK5 update, unplugged at 10pm at 100%, woke up at 7am with 97%. This is what it should ALWAYS be.
However, after the 2nd charge after the full wipe, it's back to what it was, if not worse. Last night I unplugged at 11pm, woke up at 7am with 92% left. That's bang on 1% an hour again.
There is nothing keeping the device awake at all. It's very frustrating.
I can only assume Cell Standby is so high due to the fact that the phone isn't actually doing anything while the screen is off. After a 20hr day with only 1 hour SoT it's sitting at 72% battery left, with cell standby at 31%, just above Device Idle at 29%. It's a mystery to say the least.
TyroneS said:
i would suggest u do few thing while u get on bed next time,
Full charge your phone and unplug before you on bed,
1. Restart the phone while on charging,after restart go to home screen and lock the screen and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning u wake.
2.Left the phone with your daily apps running,full charge and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning too when u wake.
this is how i solve those apps running not right.
like the screenshot below,
An apps running at night drained 30% battery within 6hours & 30mins & without switch on the screen or touch anything since i'm asleep *with wifi on*
2nd screen shot shown that cm browser running and consume 94% of processing among 30% battery
while cpu only running 20mins since i had weather & sync on during night.
After that i report to cm team and they send me latest version,
after re-install my phone just back to normal.
now my N910c note 4 is consuming 1% every 1.5hours standby with wifi/3g connected *my area 4g only 1~2 bar so i changed to 3G*
average daily usage were 4.5~5.5 hours screen on time with social apps,browsing infomation,checking e-mail every 1or2 hours,reading news with flipboard,news app,drawing something,watch some youtube video & with auto brightness but indoor most of the time.
hope this would help you
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Thanks for your post. I'll definitely try restarting etc again beforehand. I'm also considering another wipe, as S-Voice being disabled seems to cause quite a few errors in the camera app. The battery drain increased after I opened the camera app too, even after force closing etc. That could just be coincidence though.
1% every 1.5 hours still seems like a lot to me, but it seems like you have a lot more apps and things running, so it's actually very good!
Very tempted to just root the thing now and throw on a debloated OS and custom kernel.
Last night i go sleep with 10% of battery left, ( im not force closing any application at all - just exit ) when i wake up ( about 7 hours of sleeping ) phone was showing 8%
No data/wifi/gps etc. If you are not using mobile internet, switch to GSM! It takes more than 30% less battery power than 3G
I'm thinking this is a hardware fault of some sort. Maybe battery, I'm gonna replace and see cause tried from full charge placing it in airplane mode to see if signal was causing the problem, didn't touch it, screen off whole time for 2 hours. Upon looking at it I saw I'd lost 7% battery! Omg! In airplane mode?! In 2 hours?! In standby?!!
In normal use there are no Rouge apps or strange readings in battery stats at all. May be hardware fault.
I've had the N910K exynos, 6 hours plus sot battery life
I've had the N910F snapdragon, 6 hours plus sot battery life
This n910c give me 3 hours sot. I'm pissed lol. Right off!!
Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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I have 4 bars lte at home, 2-3 bars at work, wifi always full signal at both work and home, one is ac 5ghz, other n 2.4ghz, no difference in drain either way.
Ive done a factory wipe 3 times now, even through recovery once. No change. Better battery stats and gsam both report no rogue apps, and ive also tested by having no apps installed, with and without bloatware disabled.
Im not really keen on the idea of voiding my warranty to test other kernels etc, and the only other option is to flash the ank5 update to test.
Ive attached another screenshot showijg the issue better. The drain gets noticeably worse after the first 50% or so, but that could be caused by many things, like inaccurate readings.
Like i say though, 1 of my 2 note 3s had the same issue. Could well be a faulty wifi/cellular chip.
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Your mobile signal is very poor. I believe you have full bars but your screenshot ... well it shows us that your reception is poor. It may be one of the causes for your fast drain...
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Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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Yes, in airplane mode I should lose practically nothing withing 2 hours. Please screen shot your battery stats for us!
lawtq said:
I'm thinking this is a hardware fault of some sort. Maybe battery, I'm gonna replace and see cause tried from full charge placing it in airplane mode to see if signal was causing the problem, didn't touch it, screen off whole time for 2 hours. Upon looking at it I saw I'd lost 7% battery! Omg! In airplane mode?! In 2 hours?! In standby?!!
In normal use there are no Rouge apps or strange readings in battery stats at all. May be hardware fault.
I've had the N910K exynos, 6 hours plus sot battery life
I've had the N910F snapdragon, 6 hours plus sot battery life
This n910c give me 3 hours sot. I'm pissed lol. Right off!!
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My SoT is fine if im only using it during 1 day. Its usually close to 6 hours. But its not heavy usage, just browsing mainly.
Let me know how the battery change goes. Im likely going to order a spare anyway for when im away from home, so will also report back.
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Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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So mobile data completely disabled? Not that it should matter much if youre on wifi all the time.
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Your mobile signal is very poor. I believe you have full bars but your screenshot ... well it shows us that your reception is poor. It may be one of the causes for your fast drain...
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At work its pretty poor, usually a bar or two on lte, but no other phone ive had has displayed battery drain like this in standby.
That still doesnt explain why it drains 1%/hr with nothing happening at home though with 4 bar lte and full wifi signal.
Ive also noticed voice calls are taking up significant battery. A 3min call used more battery than 20 mons of screen time at half brightness apparently, unless thats normal.
If its normal, then to me the cause seems to be battery related. If not, then faulty cellular chip.
Also heres some more screenshots.
This is over the course of the day with barely any usage.
The chunks where its awake, that's just when I'm playing music, not a rogue app.
Note the big standby drop at the start, then the standby drop later, both completely different amounts of drainage, yet both when doing nothing.
I know I had another post about my horrible battery life, however I was able to finally resolve that. This time however I have a new issue with it that just started a few days ago so I figured I would make a separate post.
I will say, on a side note, I'm super close to crushing my Turbo 2 in a bench vise at this point, Motorola and Verizon are quickly getting themselves to the top of my **** list......
I'm having an issue with a wakelock by the name of "ConnectivityService" that is keeping the phone awake and causing the "Android System" to be at the top of my battery drain list at 70%. This only seems to start draining the battery when I'm not connected to wifi. If I shut off wifi completely it gets worse.
Connectivity Service is holding the phone awake constantly and draining my battery down completely in just a few hours. I can't seem to figure out if there is an app or setting that can disable that wakelock, but I haven't installed anything new lately and there haven't been any app updates that I have seen.
The other issue is when I restart my phone, the battery level drops by 10% every time.
And for what its worth, with my past battery post "fix" I was only able to increase my battery to last around 20 hours on a single charge with 1.5 hours of screen on time. Still not great but this new issue is pretty much rendering the phone useless.
Any suggestions or should I put a deer slug through this phone?