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To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
elias2204 said:
There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.
CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long
I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
Mikegrmn said:
Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks
Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
Techweed said:
Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MK2 UK rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
Pierre118 said:
I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
Pain in my A$$
radicalisto said:
My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
Pain in my A$$
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It looks like this a 'leaked' firmware, so many major bugs. But I also read success, how can that be so different?
I'm having a number of problems with 4.4.2, but they're nothing I can't work around with some tinkering. If you can't handle bugs on your phone, stay with 4.3.
If you're looking for big differences you won't find it visually. Most differences are "under the hood".
Haven't had any of the problems spoken about -
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
But then again I might just be lucky....
If you're happy with 4.3 then est to stay as you are. You will loose root though you can get it again easily enough now Chainfire has released his cf-autoroot for Kitkat (you will trip Knox however).
A lot of cosmetic mods don't work and a fair few xposed mods work partially or not at all.
framework seems to be altered so themes don't work and until these are fixed you are "srtuck" with stock android look. There are some things you can do but not the range of stuff I did in 4.3.
All up its a mixed bag... Just needs time to be cracked and hacked and all will be well again...
Hi,
I just updated my note 3 to 4.4 and it's true that there's nothing extravagantly new on the update.
But, I did notice that my device is no longer rooted. I tried rooting my note 3 via ODIN but there's a problem (bootlooping)...
What can I do about this? I want to root my device but I can't because of the 4.4 update. Is there any methods or available download that I need to do so that I can root my device? And is it possible if I can switch back to 4.3 since 4.4 I flashed was the leaked version?
Looking forward to helping me out with my problem. More power!
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ultramag69 said:
If you're looking for big differences you won't find it visually. Most differences are "under the hood".
Haven't had any of the problems spoken about -
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
But then again I might just be lucky....
If you're happy with 4.3 then est to stay as you are. You will loose root though you can get it again easily enough now Chainfire has released his cf-autoroot for Kitkat (you will trip Knox however).
A lot of cosmetic mods don't work and a fair few xposed mods work partially or not at all.
framework seems to be altered so themes don't work and until these are fixed you are "srtuck" with stock android look. There are some things you can do but not the range of stuff I did in 4.3.
All up its a mixed bag... Just needs time to be cracked and hacked and all will be well again...
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Sir,
I noticed you mentioned about that Chainfire released a cf-autoroot for Kitkat. Where can I find this? Have you updated yours to 4.4 and is still rooted? Can you help me out? I appreciate it much. Thanks.
Here is the file you need to root 4.4.2
I think after upgrading to 4.42 you can't go back, can't root without tripping Knox, SD is limited, I think you can't use Appop to set program permissions (not sure if there is any replacement), ART is disabled and some other minor bugs and issues.
Come again with benefits please.
pete4k said:
I think after upgrading to 4.42 you can't go back, can't root without tripping Knox, SD is limited, I think you can't use Appop to set program permissions (not sure if there is any replacement), ART is disabled and some other minor bugs and issues.
Come again with benefits please.
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Correct to KNOX and downgrading. Appops does work. But not natively supported. ART isn't implemented.
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radicalisto said:
My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
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But that's not a bug. It's a kitkat feature, apps need to be updated to work with the new permissions for sd-card access.
Can I use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49047469&postcount=1127) to upgrade to Kitkat? So I'll have root but not the new knox bootloader.
If you don't play CM/AOKP/AOSP ROM and never intend to downgrade, your device is not Hong Kong Variant. Just go ahead update to 4.4.2 KitKat.
The most smooth experience I ever get in stock ROM.
No more delay when click the pull down menu for contact search at Phone Keypad. 1st open is slow but after that it is instantly open. This really important to me as I use it often, really appreciate Samsung finally fixed it.
I don't have rotation issue as small portion user report.
Solid stable.
Those facing bootloop is because either
User never tick Phone Bootloader Update.
Using not compatible custom recovery.
Accidentally flash the ROM at Hong Kong Variant Note 3.
Things to aware on KitKat.
Samsung do S View chip detection, now only Genuine Samsung S View Flip cover is working, all counterfeit and 3rd party include Spigen will stop functioning.
Due to new implementation of KitKat, need new permission for writing data to external SD card, thus making certain apps no longer able to write to SD Card. Currently they is a fixed for root user, or just wait the apps developer updates it.
No way to downgrade to any 4.3 ROM due to new bootloader, also means cannot install any CM/AOKP/AOSP until those developer updates them to new bootloader.
stay with 4.3, update you will regret it.
-Generic S-View case won't work ( just like Iphone ios 7 detect none genuine hardware= rip off)
-Call recording feature is NOT implement with Samsung KK (shame on Samsung), therefore call record WILL NOT work.
-New bootloader (No way to revert back older Bootloader) = IOS can not re-install older version.
-Samsung firmware is now just like f**k IOS.
-This will be my last Samsung Handset.
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fterh said:
Can I use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49047469&postcount=1127) to upgrade to Kitkat? So I'll have root but not the new knox bootloader.
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No. You need the new bootloader to have 4.4.2 work
This sucks, android was meant to be the more open source friendly software!! It's basically becoming iOS with all the locks and restrictions it's placing everywhere, I think after this note I'm jumping ship to.. Well god knows what! It seems soon everything will be "your device will be this and you can't change that"
Let the consumer buy the product, then f*** them over time.... Thanks Samsung. Glad my new TV was an LG.
:crying:
Stay on 4.3
Pierre118 said:
I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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There are no two answers to this! Stay on 4.3
4.4.2 is garbage, believe me! I have tried it and am regretting it! It is slow, buggy and worse of all can crash at any time! So till Google don't release an update, don't even think about upgrading!
From a victim of 4.4.2
Ry2mkk said:
This sucks, android was meant to be the more open source friendly software!! It's basically becoming iOS with all the locks and restrictions it's placing everywhere, I think after this note I'm jumping ship to.. Well god knows what! It seems soon everything will be "your device will be this and you can't change that"
Let the consumer buy the product, then f*** them over time.... Thanks Samsung. Glad my new TV was an LG.
:crying:
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Hehehe, well all the manufacturers are trying to lock down their devices now, LG will be next with their KNOX version, and already Sony are a ***** to play around with I hear... that leaves HTC? - even then, your warranty is void when you unlock your bootloader.... However, they at least offer you the chance to choose an unlocked safe method via themselves..
I'm not defending the corporate garbage, however, you gotta remember it's business to them.. a few modders over millions of normal sales means nothing to them in the long run -- PS My tv is Samsung haha --
iqsoft said:
There are no two answers to this! Stay on 4.3
4.4.2 is garbage, believe me! I have tried it and am regretting it! It is slow, buggy and worse of all can crash at any time! So till Google don't release an update, don't even think about upgrading!
From a victim of 4.4.2
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I replied to your help thread, we'll get you sorted don't worry :good:
for me (sm-n900)
4.4.2
is the real meaning of stability and smoothnes and battery
its really the best choise
i like it
and i think its deffrient from each device
just go ahead and try it
if u have any issues
it will be fixed in the next official updates from Sam
dont worry
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dr. Ketan just released v2 of his 4.4.2 rom. I hope it's stable enough to use it.
I hate bugs, even the very small ones.
I was looking at all the posts in this thread but didn't see a solid answer about the 4.4.2 advantages.
can someone tell us what is 4.4.2 better for?
Pierre118 said:
I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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The normal thing for you would be to upgrade from MI7 to MJ7. When Vodaphone UK 4.4 will be out you should start thinking about upgrading to that.
Hi folks,
I got a used I337 S4 and have been using it on ATT no problems. I rooted it (towelroot), initially just to make it easier to back up some application data but eventually I plan to debloat the thing. Probably will stay on stock ROM unless I have a compelling reason to switch.
My question is, now that I have a rooted device, do I have anything to fear from possible OTA updates to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, updating the OS and making me loose root. And if I do need to be concerned, what is the best way to block such updates from happening, until such time as a new root is (hopefully) developed.
Sorry if this is a basic question... I'm still learning my way around these things.
Thanks
Marc
Frankenscript said:
Hi folks,
I got a used I337 S4 and have been using it on ATT no problems. I rooted it (towelroot), initially just to make it easier to back up some application data but eventually I plan to debloat the thing. Probably will stay on stock ROM unless I have a compelling reason to switch.
My question is, now that I have a rooted device, do I have anything to fear from possible OTA updates to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, updating the OS and making me loose root. And if I do need to be concerned, what is the best way to block such updates from happening, until such time as a new root is (hopefully) developed.
Sorry if this is a basic question... I'm still learning my way around these things.
Thanks
Marc
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Read the section about "Block the AT&T OTA update" in the post 1 here.
Thanks. Perfect info.
A week ago, I got a prompt to update to the most recent Android version. I have a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F. Had rooted it with Towelroot in July and everything was smooth, haven't done any major changes other than SuperSU and titanium. After I ok'ed the software update, it got to like 30% or something until it crashed and rebooted. Everything seems fine, just the update didn't get installed, I'm still 4.4.2. When trying to update it, it says that my operating system has been modified in an unauthorized way (towelroot) and that I should try to download updates using Kies.
So I looked a bit for solutions, I checked the SuperSU survival mode AFTER failing the update, and now my question is, what is the best way to update whilst retaining root and all my settings, in the fastest way? Or just what is the best solution to update? Don't really want to download Kies just for this. Sorry for noobness. Thanks for any help, appreciate it.
tempest22 said:
just what is the best solution to update?
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The best thing to do is always search first. Most questions have been asked and answered before, so a quick search gives you an immediate answer, not to mention a larger number of replies and accumulated wisdom. And if any aspect remains unanswered, you are in a much better position to pose informed questions.
Of course that is a pipe dream, because most people aren't sensible enough to take 30 seconds to search, expecting someone else to gift wrap the answer for them.
Anyway, the best approach is arguably to never be first to accept an update. Instead wait a few days and then see what early adopters are posting about any given new update. Every update is different and that will quickly tell you if there are any issues regarding root and inevitably how to deal with them. OTA updates will usually break root and often fail to install properly as well. It's better to wait and install an update via Odin IMO.
Some apps, notably mobile odin pro and super su pro have root survival modes that will attempt to regain root after an update. But there are no guarantees and you should not rely upon them. Instead treat it as an emergency plan B.
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Did you change from dalvik to ART. I got the same message after changing to art and going back to dalvik sorted it for me.
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fffft said:
The best thing to do is always search first. Most questions have been asked and answered before, so a quick search gives you an immediate answer, not to mention a larger number of replies and accumulated wisdom. And if any aspect remains unanswered, you are in a much better position to pose informed questions.
Of course that is a pipe dream, because most people aren't sensible enough to take 30 seconds to search, expecting someone else to gift wrap the answer for them.
Anyway, the best approach is arguably to never be first to accept an update. Instead wait a few days and then see what early adopters are posting about any given new update. Every update is different and that will quickly tell you if there are any issues regarding root and inevitably how to deal with them. OTA updates will usually break root and often fail to install properly as well. It's better to wait and install an update via Odin IMO.
Some apps, notably mobile odin pro and super su pro have root survival modes that will attempt to regain root after an update. But there are no guarantees and you should not rely upon them. Instead treat it as an emergency plan B.
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Thanks for the answer. I'm not technically well versed, I just know that this forum is the best for people like me who need advice from the pros lol. I would rather just have the most recent update because I don't want any vulnerabilities or whatever. I haven't ever used Odin, just Towelroot and done. I don't use any roms, just factory plus root through towelroot and supersu, that's it for now. So again, how would a noob like me go about safely getting an update and having the reassurance that Towelroot will either still be there, or if an unroot is necessary, that towelroot will be able to root again? Kies? Also, is an actual OTA update still possible (I'm getting that error message) or is a computer update the only thing left?
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Did you change from dalvik to ART. I got the same message after changing to art and going back to dalvik sorted it for me.
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nope, just towelrooted it 2 months ago and that's that. no roms. still have 4.2.2, wanted to update. I got a failed update a week ago when I got an OTA update prompt. That failed, root is stil there, S5 working fine but can't do OTA since it gives me that error message. What could I do to safely get the most recent software update but retain root, OR be able to update and reroot again with towelroot if I need to unroot to update...
can anybody help please?
Why not find a stock rooted rom for your model and flash it?
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nope, just towelrooted it 2 months ago and that's that. no roms. still have 4.2.2, wanted to update. I got a failed update a week ago when I got an OTA update prompt. That failed, root is stil there, S5 working fine but can't do OTA since it gives me that error message. What could I do to safely get the most recent software update but retain root, OR be able to update and reroot again with towelroot if I need to unroot to update...
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Just downgrade to an older rom like NE2 and root with Towelroot, after that flash the new rom with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root with Everroot and the other 2 options enabled. Or flash an older kernel on your updated rom now and reroot with TR, look here for how to http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. Or as posted above a pre-rooted stock rom like Alexander rom.
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Why not find a stock rooted rom for your model and flash it?
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I'm sorry but I really don't know what that means in this context for an update. I used Towelroot 2 months ago to root and still haven't gotten myself anx root aps or mods (but was planning on it right when the update failed). Is there not a simple way to make this update work while either 1)unrooting, then updating then rerooting with Towelroot, or 2) updating whilst retaining Towelroot?
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gee2012 said:
Just downgrade to an older rom like NE2 and root with Towelroot, after that flash the new rom with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root with Everroot and the other 2 options enabled. Or flash an older kernel on your updated rom now and reroot with TR, look here for how to http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. Or as posted above a pre-rooted stock rom like Alexander rom.
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I don't think you understand what I'm asking for, or I'm just way too much of a noob, probably that. but I'd just like to update to the most recent Android version. I'm 4.4.2, got an update prompt 1 week ago, have an SM-G900F, and have Towelrooted 2 months ago. All I want is to update. How can I do this, since I'm getting the failure message that it can't be updated due to my device being modified. If I unroot with supersu, then update, then (if the update works) try to Towelroot again, will Towelroot work? Or does the new update **** with it? Or an I update with Samsung Kies, while retaining Towelroot? Ahhhh I'm so sorry for this stupid question but I really don't know
no halp?
I'm really sorry for bumping this again, but I just honestly have no clue what to do to get it updated and either retain Towelroot or be able to install it again after updating. somebody help a noob out please.
my samsung galaxy s5 , it is rooted but I would like to upgrade, I can't do the OTA upgrade so I should proceed with Kies , I would like to know whether I have to unroot my phone (how do I do that? via kies? it does not matter if it'll lose the root, I just want to be sure I would still be able to use my samsung without creating any damage)or just directly proceed with the upgrade,furthermore, my phone was a sumsung galaxy s5 tmobile but I managed to unlock it in order to use it with other carriers, if I install the original firmware and then upgrade to the newest version, can I still use it with other carriers or will return locked? thank you in advance for your help
hello, im looking to get a note 3 on ebay and it seems there all running jelly bean. I would like to know what is the best option for me. I would like root access as I was using android-wifi-tither on my old Motorola.
-should I do the ota update to kitkat,
(when I did this on my driod maxx it locked the bootloaded and I was no longer able to root or use wifi so I got rid if it. )
-should/can I install this leaked lollypop am seeming.
(how would I root it, would it have native wifi support)
This is all new to me.
Thank you
Zaneium said:
hello, im looking to get a note 3 on ebay and it seems there all running jelly bean. I would like to know what is the best option for me. I would like root access as I was using android-wifi-tither on my old Motorola.
-should I do the ota update to kitkat,
(when I did this on my driod maxx it locked the bootloaded and I was no longer able to root or use wifi so I got rid if it. )
-should/can I install this leaked lollypop am seeming.
(how would I root it, would it have native wifi support)
This is all new to me.
Thank you
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Do NOT take OTA update for the very reason you have described. OTA will put you on 4.4.4 which their is no released root for yet. All other ROMS right now are based on the 4.4.2 version that was previously on our devices.
You can NOT installed leaked Lolipop ROM as that is not for our device. We will have to wait for our carriers version or possibly a port.
Once you get your device you should be able to root using Towelroot which is just a simple .apk that you sideload and run. https://towelroot.com/
Then go to this thread and install Safestrap which is the Recovery we use for our device since our bootloader is locked. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Follow those instructions and then you should be able to go into the Development section and load up a custom ROM. I also HIGHLY advise you take some time and read thru some threads before diving into this to educate yourself before you break something.
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christianpeso said:
Do NOT take OTA update for the very reason you have described. OTA will put you on 4.4.4 which their is no released root for yet. All other ROMS right now are based on the 4.4.2 version that was previously on our devices.
You can NOT installed leaked Lolipop ROM as that is not for our device. We will have to wait for our carriers version or possibly a port.
Once you get your device you should be able to root using Towelroot which is just a simple .apk that you sideload and run. https://towelroot.com/
Then go to this thread and install Safestrap which is the Recovery we use for our device since our bootloader is locked. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Follow those instructions and then you should be able to go into the Development section and load up a custom ROM. I also HIGHLY advise you take some time and read thru some threads before diving into this to educate yourself before you break something.
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-according to YouTube , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6aRSt2rB5I , there is a leak for N9005 (this Verizon?)...
-an other option for me is to get the developers edition note 4, my question is if I do the OTA update for lollypop would I still have an unlocked boot loader and be able to root ? thank you
Zaneium said:
-according to YouTube , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6aRSt2rB5I , there is a leak for N9005 (this Verizon?)...
-an other option for me is to get the developers edition note 4, my question is if I do the OTA update for lollypop would I still have an unlocked boot loader and be able to root ? thank you
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-No that ROM you linked to in the video is NOT for our device. That was for the international version. I believe Poland or something like that.
-Do not know about the Note 4. Would take that question to that forum. But OTA update on regular Note 3 for Verizon WILL remove root and bootloader was never unlocked.
new phone tonight
christianpeso said:
-No that ROM you linked to in the video is NOT for our device. That was for the international version. I believe Poland or something like that.
-Do not know about the Note 4. Would take that question to that forum. But OTA update on regular Note 3 for Verizon WILL remove root and bootloader was never unlocked.
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ok I just got a new phone to me, its the Samsung note 3 SM-N900V
Andriod Version - 4.4.2
Kernal 3.4.0
Build number KOT49H.N900VVRUC...
Can I root this or do I need to resell it.
I got it for 300$ its like new perfect condition but I cant use it until I have wifi tither that's my main internet and im on it now from my laptop.
Thanks.
Zaneium said:
ok I just got a new phone to me, its the Samsung note 3 SM-N900V
Andriod Version - 4.4.2
Kernal 3.4.0
Build number KOT49H.N900VVRUC...
Can I root this or do I need to resell it.
I got it for 300$ its like new perfect condition but I cant use it until I have wifi tither that's my main internet and im on it now from my laptop.
Thanks.
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Yes you are good to root with that build. Just make sure not to take any updates.
updates - no no
strider5236 said:
Yes you are good to root with that build. Just make sure not to take any updates.
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how can I block/stop updates (as it asks me every 12hrs)
Zaneium said:
how can I block/stop updates (as it asks me every 12hrs)
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Root and you can disable this or use a custom rom.
Rooted method:
Download "disable service" from Play Store
Open it
Go to System Apps
Find Google Services Framework and tap it
Uncheck "SystemUpdateService"
Restart your device.
wifi tither
strider5236 said:
Root and you can disable this or use a custom rom.
Rooted method:
Download "disable service" from Play Store
Open it
Go to System Apps
Find Google Services Framework and tap it
Uncheck "SystemUpdateService"
Restart your device.
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Thank you very much all worked perfectly, I had an issue when installing superuser removing knox seemed to hang, but I restarted the phone and all was well. on my old Motorola rooted phone I used Android-wifi for free wifi, is this also recommended for my new note 3 or do you recommend another option.
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Zaneium said:
Thank you very much all worked perfectly, I had an issue when installing superuser removing knox seemed to hang, but I restarted the phone and all was well. on my old Motorola rooted phone I used Android-wifi for free wifi, is this also recommended for my new note 3 or do you recommend another option.
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Hey I disabled the service but its been 12hr later and that update window has come up again, I looked and is show that the box is unchecked...
If i were you I'd look at a dev note 3 developers edition that way no locked boot loader and you can rom way more than on regular note 3 if someone posted this my apologies I did not read everyone's post. Thanks
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