I figure the vzw version of Kitkat will be dropping soon and from what I've been reading I may not like Kitkat due to the way it handles the SD card. There are already other versions of Kitkat out there released by other providers. I wonder if there is a root exploit available once accepting the update in an unrooted state? I wanted to wait until warranty expired to root but not want to miss my chance entirely. Thanks for your help... Or even your opinions. I haven't been able to find a thread on this anywhere and it seems pretty important.
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So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Quick answer... You are stuck. No rollback or root for now. There are always people working on rooting and not waiting for.
4.3. Maybe someone will figure out how to restore old rom. Who knows.
All your questions have been answered in other threads.
Well a lot of people can't upgrade to MF3 so I say first thing first....what version are you on? MDL? or MF3? If you're MDL any of the rooting options should work. If you upgraded to MF3 like the previous person said you're stuck. Since you're used to iOS...think of it as upgrading to new firmware and CRAPPLE no longer signing the previous OS, and Android doesn't store your BLOBS and you can't use Tiny umbrella.
HeDsh0t said:
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1) Confirm you are on MF3 and not MDL (settings/more/about device/last 3 letters in your build version). MDB is oldest, MDL is what you want to keep rooting, MF3 is the newest and unrootable for the time being.
2) You cannot root MF3. If you are on MDL and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper before updating to MF3, you might be able to preserve your root.
3) You can bet there are people trying to exploit this new build. Same as when a new version of ios comes out, you have to wait until someone jailbreaks it. We're waiting for someone to root MF3.
4) When 4.3 comes out they will try to root that one too...or hope that whatever root method we currently use, at that time, still works.
5) They used something called a QFUSE in the MF3 update that prevents us from downgrading once we're on MF3. Until (if) someone finds a way to exploit that, you're stuck on MF3.
I have a Verizon Note 3 SM-900V MJE that's on stock Android 4.3 and Kernel 3.4.0
Its been rooted with Kingo v1.1.2.1770 and has downloaded Kitkat 4.4 Software version N900VVRUCNC4
Is it safe for me to take the upgrade with the phone rooted?
If not, should I attempt to un-root with the same version of Kingo, a later version of it or something else before letting the phone take the upgrade?
Do the problems with not being able to write to an SD card still exist?
Is there currently any way around this?
Thanks for all advice
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I have a Verizon Note 3 SM-900V MJE that's on stock Android 4.3 and Kernel 3.4.0
Its been rooted with Kingo v1.1.2.1770 and has downloaded Kitkat 4.4 Software version N900VVRUCNC4
Is it safe for me to take the upgrade with the phone rooted?
If not, should I attempt to un-root with the same version of Kingo, a later version of it or something else before letting the phone take the upgrade?
Do the problems with not being able to write to an SD card still exist?
Is there currently any way around this?
Thanks for all advice
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If you want to keep root and have the ability to flash back to MJE use this method. If you take the OTA you might be able to keep root but you will not have the option to go back to MJE if you don't like KK. Also if something goes wrong after taking the OTA and you need to Odin back to stock you will most likely loose root because there is no known root method for KitKat 4.4.2 except by the leaked NC2 that I linked you to.
Added: With NC2 you can roll back to MJE and regain root if needed. Also the SD card write is fixed in NC2.
So, if I let the phone take the upgrade I'll still be rooted?
Any chance the upgrade will brick the phone since I'm rooted?
Thinking of taking the upgrade the installing SDFix so I can still write to my SD card.
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So, if I let the phone take the upgrade I'll still be rooted?
Any chance the upgrade will brick the phone since I'm rooted?
Thinking of taking the upgrade the installing SDFix so I can still write to my SD card.
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From what I have heard the OTA will either install or not, no bricking. There is a big possibility you will loose root taking the OTA. Trust me you are WAY better off with the NC2 leak but that's your choice if you want to take the risk of having root or not. KK 4.4.3 or 4.5 is coming soon and from what I am hearing it's locked down tight. That is all these "updates" are doing is locking the phones down so we can not achieve root anymore. This is the way Verizon, AT&T and Google want it and from the looks of things they will get it sooner than everyone thinks.
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From what I have heard the OTA will either install or not, no bricking. There is a big possibility you will loose root taking the OTA. Trust me you are WAY better off with the NC2 leak but that's your choice if you want to take the risk of having root or not. KK 4.4.3 or 4.5 is coming soon and from what I am hearing it's locked down tight. That is all these "updates" are doing is locking the phones down so we can not achieve root anymore. This is the way Verizon, AT&T and Google want it and from the looks of things they will get it sooner than everyone thinks.
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That's what I hear also... this is no good for us power users...
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Hello there,
I've had an AT&T Galaxy S4 for about a year now and I've been on custom ROMs since January of this year. When I was last on Stock, I had Android 4.2.2 Jellybean. Recently, I've been running into a lot of problems with my ROM so I tried installing other ROMs only to find more issues that were bothering me. I decided to just go back to stock but I was curious as to whether taking an OTA update will ruin my root? I do apologize for asking this but I'm still rather new at this. I was also curious if taking the OTA will remove my custom recovery as well as re-lock my bootloader? If I'm not supplying enough information for someone to determine the answer, please let me know and I'll provide that information.
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Hello there,
I've had an AT&T Galaxy S4 for about a year now and I've been on custom ROMs since January of this year. When I was last on Stock, I had Android 4.2.2 Jellybean. Recently, I've been running into a lot of problems with my ROM so I tried installing other ROMs only to find more issues that were bothering me. I decided to just go back to stock but I was curious as to whether taking an OTA update will ruin my root? I do apologize for asking this but I'm still rather new at this. I was also curious if taking the OTA will remove my custom recovery as well as re-lock my bootloader? If I'm not supplying enough information for someone to determine the answer, please let me know and I'll provide that information.
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One question my bro, what galaxy s4 do you have?
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I don't know the specific model name but I know it's the Galaxy S4 for AT&T
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I don't know the specific model name but I know it's the Galaxy S4 for AT&T
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If you don't know what model you're on you shouldn't be rooted. The at&t version is the i337, and yes if the ota works you'll lose root.
And questions go in the q&a forum, not general
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you need to know your build first, so you can install right .tar
odin will replace everything. except sdcards. best to back up cards anyway and/or pull ext card.
use terminal emulator and type in
SU
getprop ro.bootloader
it will give you your build--:good:
btw your bootloader was never unlocked on an i337.
EDIT: Beat me jd
Oh really? Cuz whenever I turn my phone on it shows a pad lock unlocked. The same animation appeared on my Galaxy Nexus when I had it so I just assumed the bootloader was unlocked
No, that comes up in the rooting process. The i337 has not been unlocked. There is an exploit called loki-doki for pre MF3 builds that bypasses Sammy's security checks. It allows those of us on early build to flash custom recoveries/kernels. Otherwise you need to use SafeStrap and only TW roms. If you are not familiar with SafeStrap then you are probably on a pre MF3 build.
Some people refer to the exploit as unlocking the phone. That's incorrect though--
You should get the ota root keeper, it backs up the root, then after ota update, you can restore back.
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I have decided to root my note 3 through verizon. At the same time I am scared to do it. Im pretty tech savy but Im scared I will mess my phone up and will brick it. Could anyone give me instruction on how to root my phone? Also want to know how to unroot my phone before I root it. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Here is how you root: http://youtu.be/i3JOeQSvxD4
As for unrooting, check this thread on how to get back to stock which will remove root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483380
Use towel root make sure to backup oh and have a massive SD card lol
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OP, are you running 4.4.2 or 4.4.4?
Because I don't think you can root 4.4.4 yet; pretty sure towelroot no longer works. I'd love to be wrong about this.
I freaking hate the loss of write to SD function for most apps- can't even properly file manage my device anymore since 4.4.4 without root. Google's becoming as rotten as Apple with this sort of thing... well, not quite that bad. Yet.
Any progress on rooting 4.4.4?
Still nuthin?
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Still nuthin?
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nadda
It is my understanding that no obe is working on rooting 4.4.4 because 5.0 Lollipop is on the way.
You may have to wait for root of 5.0
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It is my understanding that no obe is working on rooting 4.4.4 because 5.0 Lollipop is on the way.
You may have to wait for root of 5.0
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Is anyone working on rooting 5.0 for the Note 3? I was under the impression most developers have moved on from N3 to the N4. I figured rooting my 4.4.4 N3 was a lost cause.
Unknown but probably more likely than 4.4.4 root.
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So I just got a 5.0 Lollipop SM-G900A, Baseband G900AUCU4B0F3 warranty replacement for my old rooted 4.4.2 SM-G900A AT&T S5.
I want to get root back. I don't care about warranty since I'm technically out of warranty now and they replaced my phone past warranty (I was really nice to the friendly female CSR I got on the phone). I believe my options are:
Live without root
downgrade to 4.4.2 and root with towelroot without tripping knox
root 5.0 but trip knox
I'd like to do number 3, but I don't know what the best method is at this point. I haven't kept up on any developments in root area since I rooted my 4.4.2 and was supremely happy with it ever since. I know that flashing an already rooted ROM is one of the options but honestly I've gone down the custom ROMs road before on previous phones and I know if I start that again I'll be going through tons of ROMs looking for the one I like best and I've been so happy with rooted vanilla stock that I don't want to take the time to go down that path right now if I can help it. Is there a way to root 5.0 directly if you don't care about Knox/warranty?
I fully realize that I could RTFF and figure out what my answer is but I'm hoping someone who is current will take pity on me and point me in the right direction and cut my RTFF down from hours to minutes. TIA for any help.
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/634952981960597504
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I don't believe it's possible to root 0F3 at this time. Sorry bro...
If root is achieved once again, I would highly recommend sticking to Muniz_ri's rooted stock roms which can be found in the "General" section of each carrier-specific S5 Thread, then running his debloat script (and installing google now launcher) to have a very clean android.
Has there been any updates on this? the "SRSroot" site seems sketchy. Google is not showing me results that I want to hear.
Frankbot said:
Has there been any updates on this? the "SRSroot" site seems sketchy. Google is not showing me results that I want to hear.
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No update, still unrootable.
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