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Rooting Verizon 4.4.2

I lost root when updating to 4.4.2 on my Verizon moto x. Does anyone know how to get it back?
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whatnow275 said:
I lost root when updating to 4.4.2 on my Verizon moto x. Does anyone know how to get it back?
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There is no way at this time and probably never will be because jcase is not going to try to find a way.
What did you do that you lost root? Others are reporting that they kept root when they updated.

I was stupid and restored 4.4 without checking if I still had root. Had to restore because I uninstalled some bliatware and the update wouldn't take. So I'm stranded without root forever?
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whatnow275 said:
I was stupid and restored 4.4 without checking if I still had root. Had to restore because I uninstalled some bliatware and the update wouldn't take. So I'm stranded without root forever?
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OK, just so I understand, you did a factory reset to restore to 4.4 and then were unrooted and took the 4.4.2 OTA?
As for forever, well, who knows maybe Jcase can be persuaded to work on it, but he still has to find a way even if he were so inclined. As of now, once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, no one has a way to downgrade it to 4.4. And since Slap My Moto relies on downgrading 4.4. to the post camera 4.2.2, there is no way to root 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
The sale on the Dev Eds is still on until tomorrow. You can always get root with a Dev Ed. You could sell your current phone to help pay for the Dev Ed.

I had to sbf back to 4.4 because I uninstalled some apps using TiBu. It seems way faster now...battery I'd the main thing I care about. How can I jeep 5+ hours screen on time without root or turning off features?
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whatnow275 said:
I had to sbf back to 4.4 because I uninstalled some apps using TiBu. It seems way faster now...battery I'd the main thing I care about. How can I jeep 5+ hours screen on time without root or turning off features?
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sorry posted wrong.

if you sbf back to 4.4 then go back to 4.2.2 and do the root thing over and just update like normal. thats if you can still sbf to 4.2.2

FeaR_x_KhAoS said:
if you sbf back to 4.4 then go back to 4.2.2 and do the root thing over and just update like normal. thats if you can still sbf to 4.2.2
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He upgraded to 4.4.2. If he tries to sbf back to 4.4 he will brick his phone.
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flashallthetime said:
the only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam
here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
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Cozume said:
There is no way at this time and probably never will be because jcase is not going to try to find a way.
What did you do that you lost root? Others are reporting that they kept root when they updated.
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All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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kbluhm said:
All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...

Teksu said:
Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...
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Right, but it doesn't help with things like AdAway.

kbluhm said:
All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Xposed with all its modules including Moto tether + TiBu is useless? I'm using adfree and it seems to work as well. All you have to do is soft reboot and viola!

Mayze23 said:
Xposed with all its modules including Moto tether + TiBu is useless? I'm using adfree and it seems to work as well. All you have to do is soft reboot and viola!
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I second that, all is well on rooted 442 locked vzw

Teksu said:
Users report that xposed will survive a soft reboot, so theres that...
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It's hit or miss when it sticks. It's a bummer
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safestrap ROM of 164.55.2?
So is there any interest in creating a rooted safestrap ROM of 164.55.2 (i.e. similar to the previous 4.4 release: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/ )
Or does 4.4.2 break the ability to do Recovery boot -> R/W system access? (which the current safestrap 4.4 ROM still relies on to write to system)

So if I root now (4.4.0) and take the ota to 4.4.2 , will I be able to keep the root? I don't necessarily need it, I would just like TB and X-Posed. Bit scared of loosing the warranty on this phone though.

TechTinker said:
So if I root now (4.4.0) and take the ota to 4.4.2 , will I be able to keep the root? I don't necessarily need it, I would just like TB and X-Posed. Bit scared of loosing the warranty on this phone though.
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It worked for me. The only setback from 4.4 root is that if you hard reboot you'll need to install Xposed framework and soft reboot to get it to stick. So worst case is you have to reboot twice if you do a hard reboot. TiBu works regardless.
If you worried about the warranty then you shouldn't root the non dev edition.

kbluhm said:
All those that I have seen report keeping root later said that they lost R/W access, which makes having root useless.
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Are you referring only to those that used MotoPwnNoMo? Or does this apply to all rooted users?

nhizzat said:
Are you referring only to those that used MotoPwnNoMo? Or does this apply to all rooted users?
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Not sure, they're not usually specific from what I've seen. I just recall reading "I got lucky, root stuck!" followed later by "ah crap, write protection is enabled".
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mpkrcl said:
So is there any interest in creating a rooted safestrap ROM of 164.55.2 (i.e. similar to the previous 4.4 release: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/ )
Or does 4.4.2 break the ability to do Recovery boot -> R/W system access? (which the current safestrap 4.4 ROM still relies on to write to system)
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This would, I think, be the ideal solution.

a few questions about tmobile bloatware

he,,
i just got a t mobile lg g2.i have noticed there are a lot of t mobile apps and other apps i will never use.if i root my phone can i uninstall the junk in my phone without installing a custom ROM?also is there a easy way to root the phone.i have a lgg2 with kitkat 4.4.2
thanks for the help

laprodigy001 said:
he,,
i just got a t mobile lg g2.i have noticed there are a lot of t mobile apps and other apps i will never use.if i root my phone can i uninstall the junk in my phone without installing a custom ROM?also is there a easy way to root the phone.i have a lgg2 with kitkat 4.4.2
thanks for the help
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Once you root, you can get rid of all the junk T-Mobile installed on our D801s... So yes, you can do that without installing a custom ROM.
On the root question on KK, I'll let some one else answer that since I still haven't upgraded (no need to since my LG G2 works much better with CloudyFlex ROM despite the 4.2.2 tag).
Cheers!

As of right now, there is no root for T-Mobile G2s running Kit Kat. Root works for other carriers but there have been reports about T-Mobile having issues. We'll just have to wait and see if someone can find a workaround for us.
You can disable most T-Mobile bloatware in the settings until root is available (I think autoprime is working on it). If not, you can downgrade to Jellybean 4.2.2 and then root. It was surprisingly easy and fast to root the Jellybean version, though. I'm no expert so I can't help you with this, but be sure to read and reread instructions if you decide to do any modifications to your phone! I learned the hard way after softbricking mine.

tofutown said:
As of right now, there is no root for T-Mobile G2s running Kit Kat. Root works for other carriers but there have been reports about T-Mobile having issues. We'll just have to wait and see if someone can find a workaround for us.
You can disable most T-Mobile bloatware in the settings until root is available (I think autoprime is working on it). If not, you can downgrade to Jellybean 4.2.2 and then root. It was surprisingly easy and fast to root the Jellybean version, though. I'm no expert so I can't help you with this, but be sure to read and reread instructions if you decide to do any modifications to your phone! I learned the hard way after softbricking mine.
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I'm on T-Mobile kit kat rooted with bloat ware deleted.... been on it for about a month
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RiverdALIEN said:
I'm on T-Mobile kit kat rooted with bloat ware deleted.... been on it for about a month
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Whoa, really? Did you root before upgrading to KK or after? I was impatient and bricked my phone by trying to flash Kit Kat and had to go through the process of unrooting and trying to flash the stock firmware several times (it was a nightmare because I'm noob and my laptop kept freezing). I didn't want to fail at flashing my device a second time, so I'm quietly waiting for the IOroot kinks to be sorted out... unless they've already been fixed?

Has there been any updates with rooting this version yet.thanks

Note 3 rooted with Kingo v1.1.2.1770 - Safe to take Kitkat upgrade?

I have a Verizon Note 3 SM-900V MJE that's on stock Android 4.3 and Kernel 3.4.0
Its been rooted with Kingo v1.1.2.1770 and has downloaded Kitkat 4.4 Software version N900VVRUCNC4
Is it safe for me to take the upgrade with the phone rooted?
If not, should I attempt to un-root with the same version of Kingo, a later version of it or something else before letting the phone take the upgrade?
Do the problems with not being able to write to an SD card still exist?
Is there currently any way around this?
Thanks for all advice

stonypass said:
I have a Verizon Note 3 SM-900V MJE that's on stock Android 4.3 and Kernel 3.4.0
Its been rooted with Kingo v1.1.2.1770 and has downloaded Kitkat 4.4 Software version N900VVRUCNC4
Is it safe for me to take the upgrade with the phone rooted?
If not, should I attempt to un-root with the same version of Kingo, a later version of it or something else before letting the phone take the upgrade?
Do the problems with not being able to write to an SD card still exist?
Is there currently any way around this?
Thanks for all advice
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If you want to keep root and have the ability to flash back to MJE use this method. If you take the OTA you might be able to keep root but you will not have the option to go back to MJE if you don't like KK. Also if something goes wrong after taking the OTA and you need to Odin back to stock you will most likely loose root because there is no known root method for KitKat 4.4.2 except by the leaked NC2 that I linked you to.
Added: With NC2 you can roll back to MJE and regain root if needed. Also the SD card write is fixed in NC2.

So, if I let the phone take the upgrade I'll still be rooted?
Any chance the upgrade will brick the phone since I'm rooted?
Thinking of taking the upgrade the installing SDFix so I can still write to my SD card.

stonypass said:
So, if I let the phone take the upgrade I'll still be rooted?
Any chance the upgrade will brick the phone since I'm rooted?
Thinking of taking the upgrade the installing SDFix so I can still write to my SD card.
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From what I have heard the OTA will either install or not, no bricking. There is a big possibility you will loose root taking the OTA. Trust me you are WAY better off with the NC2 leak but that's your choice if you want to take the risk of having root or not. KK 4.4.3 or 4.5 is coming soon and from what I am hearing it's locked down tight. That is all these "updates" are doing is locking the phones down so we can not achieve root anymore. This is the way Verizon, AT&T and Google want it and from the looks of things they will get it sooner than everyone thinks.

Misterxtc said:
From what I have heard the OTA will either install or not, no bricking. There is a big possibility you will loose root taking the OTA. Trust me you are WAY better off with the NC2 leak but that's your choice if you want to take the risk of having root or not. KK 4.4.3 or 4.5 is coming soon and from what I am hearing it's locked down tight. That is all these "updates" are doing is locking the phones down so we can not achieve root anymore. This is the way Verizon, AT&T and Google want it and from the looks of things they will get it sooner than everyone thinks.
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That's what I hear also... this is no good for us power users...
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4.4.4 OTA update with root

Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Probably not a good idea to take the update. I'd wait until our trusty devs get ahold of the OTA and do their magic.

Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.

lackdog said:
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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That might just of been the best error ever, especially if you use root a lot. No way to go back and no known, released root at the moment for that version. Like above me has said, try flashing the NK1 modem using Odin and see if that improves your signal any.

Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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If you want the benefits "fixes" of the latest, would be be smart to Odin stock so you are clean when you take the OTA.

lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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how to track 4.4.4 rooting progress?
donc113 said:
You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Marlon1691 said:
I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It likely is possible to update and keep root. But if after updating you screw up a mod, etc. and need to get back to stock you will lose root permanently.

flashing modem
leroybrute said:
Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
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There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.

Odin 3.09
leroybrute said:
There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
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Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
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You need to put your phone in download mode before plugging into pc. Make sure debugging is checked in developer settings.

Thanks…
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again

tjmethod said:
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
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No, I thank you... Ha

GoNavyMike said:
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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Brainfire2 said:
GoNavyMike said:
Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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That is why you should always tell them you are on the latest firmware
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I read about 4.4.4 and didn't like what they took away from 4.4.2. I won't go to it. If I were you I'd 'towelroot'- (get the simple steps on xda), and 'beanstown 106' has all the firmwares for these phones, put the nc4 on w/ 4.4.2, then install biggins rom v7, then upgrade via dirty flash with 8.0 then immediately w/ 8.3- fast touch response and after about 3-4 days, you'lI be getting twice the battery life… I jumped up to the new v9 but they dont have the theme for it yet. I miss the Kromex blue on black…

Just got an AT&T Android 5.0 warranty replacement for my rooted 4.4.2; options?

So I just got a 5.0 Lollipop SM-G900A, Baseband G900AUCU4B0F3 warranty replacement for my old rooted 4.4.2 SM-G900A AT&T S5.
I want to get root back. I don't care about warranty since I'm technically out of warranty now and they replaced my phone past warranty (I was really nice to the friendly female CSR I got on the phone). I believe my options are:
Live without root
downgrade to 4.4.2 and root with towelroot without tripping knox
root 5.0 but trip knox
I'd like to do number 3, but I don't know what the best method is at this point. I haven't kept up on any developments in root area since I rooted my 4.4.2 and was supremely happy with it ever since. I know that flashing an already rooted ROM is one of the options but honestly I've gone down the custom ROMs road before on previous phones and I know if I start that again I'll be going through tons of ROMs looking for the one I like best and I've been so happy with rooted vanilla stock that I don't want to take the time to go down that path right now if I can help it. Is there a way to root 5.0 directly if you don't care about Knox/warranty?
I fully realize that I could RTFF and figure out what my answer is but I'm hoping someone who is current will take pity on me and point me in the right direction and cut my RTFF down from hours to minutes. TIA for any help.

https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/634952981960597504
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I don't believe it's possible to root 0F3 at this time. Sorry bro...
If root is achieved once again, I would highly recommend sticking to Muniz_ri's rooted stock roms which can be found in the "General" section of each carrier-specific S5 Thread, then running his debloat script (and installing google now launcher) to have a very clean android.

Has there been any updates on this? the "SRSroot" site seems sketchy. Google is not showing me results that I want to hear.

Frankbot said:
Has there been any updates on this? the "SRSroot" site seems sketchy. Google is not showing me results that I want to hear.
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No update, still unrootable.
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