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Larger capacity battery from HTC

Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.

That would be amazing!

Ain't gonna happen, thats my guess.
HTC don't win anything with this and i don't think its even possible because of the fixed alu. housing. They can't make it bigger.
New phones arrive soon, so they not gonna put effort in making a bigger battery.
My 2 cents.

Post a link with that info.

i hope they do come out with that. it should be 1500 mah in the first place

I emailed HTC about a month ago, Nada. But they said they're investigating the battery life

I saw some batteries on Ebay, but I think they are cheap batteries, it can be dangerous...

don't trust the third party batteries, they don't perform well.

mjehan said:
Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
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I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.

Wekko306 said:
I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
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I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.

This is not an htc brand. There is a thread discussing screen issues that was caused by a similar battery expanding after several charges and pressing against the screen. Personally I would stay clear of non branded battery - its not worth the risk.
Htcpedia is not related to htc.
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Howling Wolf said:
I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
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These aren't official HTC batteries and if they are similar to the ones being discussed, endlessly, in the accessories section are inferior to the stock HTC batteries and unlikely to offer any gain in battery life, but please report back but give the batteries at least 7-10 days of normal use before offering any realistic feedback.

Well, you managed to scare me... I thought HTCPedia was serious enough not to sell or advertise garbage.
It cost me less than 20€ (about 28 USD). I'll give it a try around 7-10 days right, but will most probably remove it if I encounter screen issues.

Yep picture looks exactly like the one I got from a UK supplier and has swollen enough to press against the inside of the phone
Did it last longer. Ermm yes and probably about 30% longer but over the two months I have had it performance has dropped below that of the original so personally I have been unsuccessful and will be sticking with the original HTC one

Id buy this but the battery life isnt as bad as it used to be. Its probably got something to do with HTC shipping their batteries uncalibrated or maybe Im just getting used to owning a smartphone

Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..

Just do some tweak and it will save ur battery life longer..bigger capacity just giving it more juicer but that is not far different from original. I think just flash to new recommended ROM + Radio to get the best result

Battery lasts nearly 2 days for me with moderate use on standard HTC battery.
You just got to get the phone set up right or go the custom rom route to get even better battery life.

FManning23 said:
Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
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Net yet.. Battery Technology has hit a brick wall at the moment and basically what you have now is the best out there...
However there are some clever stuff happening. There is one which I particularly from last year
http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/energy/2761-mit-nanotube-batteries-.html
However we are still at least 5 years away from this entering the market in my opinion...

Just try and buy an extra battery if you really need more juice

So I was just wondering..

How does the best that apple has to offer (4,4s,5 whatever) compare to our Nexus 4 in terms of screen on time. I see 4-5 hours screen on which I read is normal. 2 1/2 hours if playing a big game like The Sims 3. I can't seem to find a straight answer through searching so I was hoping a well versed Android user can tell me how many hours of screen on time that a healthy iDevice achieves on average.

They actually magically have some great battery. That is if their on a bugless ios version. From all the past idevices I've had I get more than average battery. I guess it depends on the user.. As for charging they charge hella quick.
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Great question

Ios battery life is better simply because it's much simpler compare to avoid complex os with true multitasking. N4 also has to support a more powerful chip and bigger screen.
Sent from my Nexus 4

Yeah, you really can't compare. N4 has: Bigger screen, more powerful processor, faster gpu... the iPhone has better battery life most likely because it is better optimized and has a far smaller screen.

I really don't care about what you can and can't compare. I would just like to know what real users experience on an iPhone in terms of screen on as I've always been an Android user.
Also the iPhone 5 does have a 4 inch screen, dual core and 1gb ram so I'd expect it to last longer as well as not be a contender with the N4 in performance. Sims 3 on the N4 is unbelievable.
I don't want to have to register on another forum and would just like to hear from a real user.

I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.

snapper.fishes said:
I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.
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Wow I just did a search on Note II average battery life and am seeing many screen shots with 8 hours! If it weren't for the facts that I don't want to carry a tablet in my pocket everyday and my N4 (and Gnex before it) never once has come close to running out of battery before coming home at night, I may consider the Note 3 or current phablet as my next phone in a few years.
Still would like an answer to my original question, though.

Anyone?

If you check the Anandtech Nexus 4 review (I can't post a link as I'm a new user) it compares the the 4, 4S and 5 to the Nexus 4 in browsing tests. For all devices screen brightness was set to 200 nits however the nexus is stock. In short you'll get about twice as much browsing time out of an iPhone 5 as you will from a stock Nexus 4 on mobile data. On wifi you'll get about 1.6 times. Although it's not a "screen-on" test it's a good gauge of battery life.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-nex...test-see-if-its-better-than-the-galaxy-nexus/
The iPhone5 does consistently great in battery benchmarks.
The Web Browsing performance (what matters most IMO) is hands-down incredible.
My guess is that the smaller screen and highly optimized CPU are responsible.

Replace my G3 with Note 4 ?

Hi ,
I need your help !!
Have G3 for few months already and now consider moving to the Note 4 .. what do you think ??
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP

I moved to Note 4 and I'ts not such a big improvment, if I had to pay for Note 4 (I've got mine for free) I would like to stay with G3.

I have both and the G3 is more portable. The only advantage the N4 has is the stylus. Music quality is better on the G3 compared to the Snapdragon Note 4.

In my opinión its totally worth it.
Screen is much better, better battery life (g3 sucks) and most of all i find the g3 is not fluid at all.
The only thing that i like Best about the g3 is the size factor.

The gpu in the G3 isnt good enough to provide a stutter free experience, while the device also seems to overheat easily. Battery life is far worse than the note 4 too.
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I find the screen of the g3 to be washed out

Tiamath99 said:
In my opinión its totally worth it.
Screen is much better, better battery life (g3 sucks) and most of all i find the g3 is not fluid at all.
The only thing that i like Best about the g3 is the size factor.
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I disagree, I got 57 hours of battery the other week on a single charge. The G3 has a great battery.

Hypercore said:
I disagree, I got 57 hours of battery the other week on a single charge. The G3 has a great battery.
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Yeah, and you could probably get 200 if you put it airplane mode and don't get 1 km near it.
I didn't say the autonomy of the g3 is bad, it's not bad. It's just worse that other flagship.. I guess if you came from an old decide it's not bad by any standart but compared to z2, z3, note 3, s5, m8 etc... It is inferior

Hypercore said:
I disagree, I got 57 hours of battery the other week on a single charge. The G3 has a great battery.
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I agree my G3 with the latest firmware has good battery life

recently sold my g3 (used it for 4 months) for a note 4.
G3 rooted, note 4...not yet
some comparisons:
Screen:
I like the screen of the note 4 better. Blacks, vibrant colors.
Battery:
G3 could give me on average around 3 hrs screen on time. I even got a 2nd battery and it was the same. The note 4 can give me 5 hrs screen on time..so far.....we'll see if it continues...
Speed:
I never really noticed the lag on the g3 that many people complain about...so..in this respect...they are same..for me.

Tiamath99 said:
Yeah, and you could probably get 200 if you put it airplane mode and don't get 1 km near it.
I didn't say the autonomy of the g3 is bad, it's not bad. It's just worse that other flagship.. I guess if you came from an old decide it's not bad by any standart but compared to z2, z3, note 3, s5, m8 etc... It is inferior
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I've owned almost every flagship phone i even currently own a oneplusone, m7, m8. and the note 2-4 and next to the note 3 (i thought the s5 battery was terrible) the G3 comes second on my personal list of opinion. I guess it depends on too many factors to judge, for example xposed modules like Force Deep Sleep Mode and Permission Manager you can easily double your battery life. If you dont watch and fix permission and wakelocks any phone will die pretty fast haha.

Hypercore said:
I've owned almost every flagship phone i even currently own a oneplusone, m7, m8. and the note 2-4 and next to the note 3 (i thought the s5 battery was terrible) the G3 comes second on my personal list of opinion. I guess it depends on too many factors to judge, for example xposed modules like Force Deep Sleep Mode and Permission Manager you can easily double your battery life. If you dont watch and fix permission and wakelocks any phone will die pretty fast haha.
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Yes, I agree the total autonomy depends on too many factors and sometimes it may be hard to compare.
That said I use almost the same consideration in every smartphone and that should make a pretty fair guess of the stamina of one compared to another.
... and with this the g3 got me considerably less battery than my actual note 4 and my last z2 and Note 3 before them.

On my Note 4, I have a faster experience and better battery life. Those two factors pushed me to return my G3 and purchase the N4.

[Q] S4 or OPO - which one is preferable (battery life and performance)?

Hi everyone.
Thinking of getting either the international version of the S4 or the OnePlus One.
Will save some bucks if I get the S4.
With a new battery and MM custom ROM (are there stable ones?) I was thinking this might be a good device.
Or as owners would U say I should add a few $ and opt for the OPO?
Thanks a million!

don't know the battery size of oneplus but the s4 benefits from carrying a spare or using a high capacity battery. opo has a much better CPU. always go newer for me...

3mel said:
don't know the battery size of oneplus but the s4 benefits from carrying a spare or using a high capacity battery. opo has a much better CPU. always go newer for me...
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Thanks for that input. The OPO has a 3,000 mhA battery and since I am a light user, lasts me 2 days (running stock CM 13 MM).
I guess battery wise the S4 would be a downgrade then. Carrying an extra battery is not an option for me as I will lose it within a week

it's hard to judge but if you're getting two days usage out of 3000mAh then you should be OK with 2600mAh to get back to a charger again. roms with alucard's kernel can be underclocked and or undervolted as well as being run on a power saving profile. that said I'm sure opo has similar options available...

You can also get a 3000mAh battery for the S4.
That being said, it really depends on how high the price difference is.
I personally would go for the OPO, because of the better specs. But I dislike the fact that it has no card slot. This is pretty much a deal-breaker for me.

battery degrade

Hi
I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????

Anyone

I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.

Wickidmasshole said:
I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.
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You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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mousefai0922 said:
Hi
I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?
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Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all

mousefai0922 said:
Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all
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Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Im looking at oneplus 5 or mi 6...
Don't wanna spend too much on phone nowadays

mousefai0922 said:
Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?
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Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
Are you in the US?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
Are you in the US?
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I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.

mousefai0922 said:
I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.
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Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..
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Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone

mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..

mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..
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i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?

KLit75 said:
You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.
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i dont usually sell my old smartphone as i wil put them at home as my gaming devices. Plus, i need two phone (personal and work).. so i might get a cheapass oneplus for personal, and then enxus 6p become my gamnig/secondary devices.
u know the resale value for 6p now?

mousefai0922 said:
i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?
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I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..
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if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5

mousefai0922 said:
if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5
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This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone

SMARTPHONEPC said:
This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone
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3gb on 6p is enough for now... But not sure about the future.....
2 yrs lifespan on a smartphone, I thiNk is well used