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reverse bluetooth tether?

Hi.
I'm trying to use my G1 with the bluetooth pan network from my computer or from my mogul (which has an unlimited data plan) to go to the internet instead of using wifi to be more energy efficient.
So far, using wifi tether's bluetooth option, I manage to establish a pan network between my G1 and the computer running windows. However, traffic is not routed properly, I get "network unreachable" from the terminal when I try to ping something outside the local pan network.
Any ideas?

you cannot access the interwebs on your G1 from a network on your computer. you cannot reverse tether. it is not possible at this time, please people stop posting about this stuff
if you had searched you would have seen that it can't be done and you would have found a thread where theyare trying to get it working

I know it is not possible at this time, hence my post here.
I need someone with linux networking knowledge to have a look into this, the android platform is a bit peculiar to me, ifconfig is behaving differently on it then it does on a regular linux distro. I need help setting up the right dns entries, figuring out where they are stored in Android (resolv.conf? a property set using setprop?), etc...
The idea is to have Android connect to an existing bluetooth access point. Everything is there to do it, pand is working, a virtual bluetooth network adaptor can be created, I can even give it a proper ip address and I manage to ping it from the access point and I can ping the access point from android...
This is the perfect forum to post such a question.
Anyone else with a more useful comment?

stanelie said:
I know it is not possible at this time, hence my post here.
I need someone with linux networking knowledge to have a look into this, the android platform is a bit peculiar to me, ifconfig is behaving differently on it then it does on a regular linux distro. I need help setting up the right dns entries, figuring out where they are stored in Android (resolv.conf? a property set using setprop?), etc...
The idea is to have Android connect to an existing bluetooth access point. Everything is there to do it, pand is working, a virtual bluetooth network adaptor can be created, I can even give it a proper ip address and I manage to ping it from the access point and I can ping the access point from android...
This is the perfect forum to post such a question.
Anyone else with a more useful comment?
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[MORE USEFUL COMMENT] post in the threads that are already discussing this topic rather than posting a new thread[/MORE USEFUL COMMENT]

You use the term "linux distro". Now, I know I may be beating a dead horse here, but linux is just the kernel--the rest is GNU software. Many things are going to behave differently on Android.

Exactly, what works in Fedora 10 possibly will not work in android... (and thats giving some ambition there.....)

that's exactly why I am asking here instead of elsewhere.
To tubaking182 : the really usefull answer would have been to give me a link to the right thread instead. The search features of this forum sucks.
Thanks anyway.

Hi stanelie,
I too am very interested in doing this VERY same thing. I've also searched and come up empty handed. If there is anyone out there with more information that could help please feel free to post. Thanks in advance.

I'm sorry some here do not like people asking questions but I too would very much appreciate REVERSE BLUETOOTH TETHER functionality for my Android phone. Despite what tubaking182 so very helpfully writes above (thank you ever so much!) there remains no EASY solution for this.
I will happily pay for an easy to install, reliable Android Market app that does this. I think lots of others will too.
So that there is no misunderstanding I wish to connect my phone as a Bluetooth PAN client to a Bluetooth PAN server. The server functionality is NOT required.
Thanks,
Paul

Dessid - Iphone app generates WEP keys for secured networks

This may be old news
Dessid is an irish iphone app currently creating a storm in ireland as it allows users to gain unauthorised access to wireless APs by generating WEP keys from the SSID. Its based on a exploit discovered in 2007 which has been made into an ipone app.
This app is currently being sold on the app store for 1.59.
Currently working on Eircom (irish ISP) netopia routers.
But i've been led to believe that at&t supply (or at least supplied the same netopia routers with the same flaw) and i'm wondering if these are also vulnerable? if someone could confirm.. an online version of this tool is available just google "s4dd"
just input the ssid.please test on your own router
more specifically im wondering if it would be possible to port this to WM6 as many irish people would be grateful . the source code is available in c
google "dessid.c"
some searching of boards.ie will reveal more info. I am currently not permitted to post links(first post)
Im sure an experienced developer would have little problem porting this... i lack any knowledge in this area. And its easy see the catch 22 of using an online version.
Thanking you in advance
** whilst this may seem of questionable legality apple app store is currently selling this therefore i believe it to be somewhat legitimised**

Android basic WiFi tether - new project

Hello everyone,
I'm a computing student and Ive got the task to develop a basic version of the WiFi router found here: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Ive learned to program in Java during my 3 years of college and I consider that Ive got the basics covered but Im really bad at programming.. I am willing to learn a lot more to complete this project and in the process Im also planning to learn some serious programming skills considering the complexity of the application development.
Can someone please bring some light on this and help me with it? I actually dont even know where to start coding for this. All I managed to do in the last 24h is to find the below websites but I dont know how to put everything together and start coding. Ah, and I want to mention that once I finish it I will share it with the open source community, not looking for any profit. Its just a college project for me. Thanks in advance for any help that anyone can give me!
Android Developers
http://developer.android.com/
Wireless Tether for Root Users (Opensource)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486767
Tethering my laptop with android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577590
Tetherbot
http://graha.ms/androidproxy/
Tethering VIA USB - Install and troubleshooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443025&highlight=tether
tether Wifi
http://www.androidactivity.com/tetherWifi.html
iptables
http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/index.html
Dnsmasq
http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html
and of course wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethering
Well this is a functionality scenario for it. Id appreciate if one of the experienced programmers would give an opinion on it. Thanks!
#1 User starts the program by tapping the app icon.
#2 Code to check for Internet connection over GSM network (check gsm state. if off, go to 3. if on go to 7)
#3 Code to send instructions to the GSM modem to establish an internet conection.
#4 If the connection cant be established due to various technical errors like no signal, wrong APN settings etc then 5
#5 Code to show info message on the screen to inform user
#6 Once the device has a valid internet connection(check) then 7
#7 Code to show settings to user and allow customization of SSID (network name). [and security key(optional for now, we'll do it later if we have time)]
#8 The user presses the start button.
#9 Code to activate the wifi card in adhoc mode and broadcast the adhoc chosen SSID
#10 Code to accept connection from a valid device and communicate with it over wifi
#11 Code to share the established internet connection over GSM network with the device connected over wifi

Hi!
I'm one of the authors of "Wireless Tether for Root Users".
What means "a basic version of the WiFi router"?
You know that most wifi-interface-drivers of android-devices do not support master-mode which would be mandatory to implement a "wifi router/access-point" (that's the reason why we support adhoc-mode only)?
Harry

harry_m said:
Hi!
I'm one of the authors of "Wireless Tether for Root Users".
What means "a basic version of the WiFi router"?
You know that most wifi-interface-drivers of android-devices do not support master-mode which would be mandatory to implement a "wifi router/access-point" (that's the reason why we support adhoc-mode only)?
Harry
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Hi Harry, I appreciate the reply, thanks a lot!
"a basic version of the WiFi router" means a functional application that will run on an android phone (hopefully not rooted), will accept an ad-hoc connection with another wifi device over wifi and share its built in Inet conneciton with the device that connects to it. If I manage to get this running within 3 weeks I will complete the project in time.
I didnt know about the android wifi-interface-drivers..I was planning to try and develop this (hopefully successful app) into a proper wifi router (the full version) as my last year project, but now that plan is down the drain
Could you please help me start this? Where did u start when u actually started coding for this project? Any advice you can give me will be very welcome!
Cheers m8, have a good weekend!

harry_m said:
Hi!
I'm one of the authors of "Wireless Tether for Root Users".
What means "a basic version of the WiFi router"?
You know that most wifi-interface-drivers of android-devices do not support master-mode which would be mandatory to implement a "wifi router/access-point" (that's the reason why we support adhoc-mode only)?
Harry
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Hi Harry,
By ad-hoc mode do you mean that the phone has to be rooted?
My understanding is that there is no way to have GPRS/3G running at the same time as a WiFi connection on the normal Android OS on a non rooted phone?
@atl4ntys,
Nice to see another Irish developer on Android
What your trying to do in 3 weeks seems like a big task and the normal Android SDK wont be much help for the reason I have stated above unless you root the phone.

cheers draffodx, I appreciate the interest!
Abt your question, to my knowledge wifi can run at the same time with 3g on a stock non rooted phone but it will not run in adhoc/ap mode. Unless some found a workaround that.. I'd prefer to develop a very basic app that will run on any android but if it proves to be an impossible task (also given the dev time available) then I will be happy with a function one on a rooted android. Dont need security and fancy graphics I just need it to work, so Im sure between me and my project partner we'll get it done (hopefully with a bit of help from the android devs)

Have you got any resources for how to run 3G and Wifi at the same time?
Its something I need to be able to do and from a few days research it seems that the OS only switchs between Wifi and 3G and never runs both at the same time.
From the SDK API's I cant find anything allowing me to turn both 3G and Wifi on.
Can you also define what you mean by adhoc/ap mode?
Thanks

draffodx said:
Have you got any resources for how to run 3G and Wifi at the same time?
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No, not yet.
draffodx said:
From the SDK API's I cant find anything allowing me to turn both 3G and Wifi on.
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I havent looked into it properly yet. Maybe Harry will answer or if not, try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474470
draffodx said:
Can you also define what you mean by adhoc/ap mode?
Thanks
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Adhoc is computer to computer connection, without an access point. Info here: http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wirelessfaqs/f/adhocwireless.htm
ap is an access point
The difference is(wiki):
Wireless Access Point vs. Ad-Hoc Network
Some people confuse Wireless Access Points with Wireless Ad-Hoc networks. An Ad-Hoc network uses a connection between two or more devices without using a wireless access point: the devices communicate directly when in range. An Ad-Hoc network is used in situations such as a quick data exchange or a multiplayer LAN game because setup is easy and does not require an access point. Due to its peer-to-peer layout, Ad-Hoc connections are similar to Bluetooth ones and are generally not recommended for a permanent installation.
Internet access via Ad-Hoc networks, using features like Windows' Internet Connection Sharing, may work well with a small number of devices that are close to each other, but Ad-Hoc networks don't scale well. Internet traffic will converge to the nodes with direct internet connection, potentially congesting these nodes. For internet-enabled nodes, Access Points have a clear advantage, being designed to handle this load.

Thanks for that atl4ntys!
If you get wifi & 3G working at the same time let me know it would be very interesting.
Good luck with the project

draffodx said:
Thanks for that atl4ntys!
If you get wifi & 3G working at the same time let me know it would be very interesting.
Good luck with the project
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hey draffodx, wifi and 3g do work in the same time but the wifi works in client mode not adhoc. the catch is to find out how to get it to work in adhoc mode while an inet connection is established over gsm
*1st post edited. Added possible functionality scenario opinions anyone? Thanks!

Hey atl4ntys,
How are you getting on with this?

draffodx said:
Hey atl4ntys,
How are you getting on with this?
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hey draffdox,
I managed to get it working in the end but I had to base my code on harry's 9.3 http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/source/browse/#svn/branches/0.9.3
If u want to see my final report, wait a few days as I will upload it online somewhere.
cheers, have a good weekend!

atl4ntys said:
hey draffdox,
I managed to get it working in the end but I had to base my code on harry's 9.3 http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/source/browse/#svn/branches/0.9.3
If u want to see my final report, wait a few days as I will upload it online somewhere.
cheers, have a good weekend!
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Thanks for that atl4ntys, excellent read, its a pity it still cant be done on a non rooted phone

Hey guys,
It's nice to meet some Irish People on this forum,
good luck with the project.
Sorry I can't add anything but I am an Android Developement newbie.(aswell as a java newbie)
I can't wait to see the app.

harry_m said:
I'm one of the authors of "Wireless Tether for Root Users".
Harry
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Hi Harry, i'm using your software, all work fine except i have to use "proxoid" to re-write the user-agent. When not using it, no web surfing for my computer is impossible.
The problem is Poxoid is written in java, and slow down the internet connection from the phone. I'm downloading at about 100kB without proxoid, and only 20-30KB with.
I'm asking you if you know another program that does same thing (user agent rewriting) , easy to install for rooted android phones, or why not include that fonctionnailty to Wifi Tether?
Thanks for Wifi Tether, nice program !

is this - (the above posts)
a form of uma or gan???

mikob2d said:
Hi Harry, i'm using your software, all work fine except i have to use "proxoid" to re-write the user-agent. When not using it, no web surfing for my computer is impossible....
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Hey mikob2d, I think its best if u send him a private msg or if u contact him here http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Don't think he's monitoring this thread anymore

Rptynan said:
Hey guys,
It's nice to meet some Irish People on this forum,
good luck with the project.
Sorry I can't add anything but I am an Android Developement newbie.(aswell as a java newbie)
I can't wait to see the app.
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hey 2u2 and welcome here but I finished this project and will not release an open source or a commercial app. The project was way harder than I expected and I had to base my app on Harry's harry's 9.3 version of the app.
I sent u2 a pm with a link to the final technical specs. Hope you'll find the info useful

Internet Connection Sharing, Please!

One of the glaring ommisions from the new platform (which I really like in so many other ways) is the loss of the Internet Connection Sharing application which as a business traveller I found indespensible. Someone please come up with a WM7 app version soon!
Many thanks
SM

yea i so with u.. i will keep my hd2 until some one comes up with a usb tethering app..

Tethering or wifi hotspot from phone is really needed (for security sake when travelling).

Search the thread regarding a diagnosis app in this general thread section...ill post the specific thread link when I have time

Tethering
It's possible, though not as simple as just running an app. There's a write-up at mobilitydigest.com. Search for "windows phone 7 tethers" (forum software won't let me post a direct link).

cuckooznest said:
It's possible, though not as simple as just running an app. There's a write-up at mobilitydigest.com. Search for "windows phone 7 tethers" (forum software won't let me post a direct link).
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Everybody keeps pointing the OP to the tethering feature via the diagnostic app. While that is great and very useful, it is not what the OP asked for. He cannot "share" his internet via his tethered connection.
While the tether capability uncovered will serve a lot of us in the interim, WP7 really does need a "sharing" or 'local hot spot' creating capability down the road. I am sure that att et all will have issues, but this is 2010 and there are times when in the name of the job or some other instance, you simply have to have a hotspot. Isn't this why we pay over a $100 a month for a plan. Now I am confusing two separate issues. Back to the OP's question. Internet sharing is currently not supported.

I think that is exactly what OP wants. Internet Connection Sharing App on original WM is not a hotspot feature either. It offers data connection to one PC via either USB or Bluetooth.
WP7 has thethering capability built-in IIRC. But it is up to carrier to enable it. And we know all US carriers will disable it because they charge extra for tethering.
AT&T was able to modify and lock down ICS on WM 6.x phones to use a different APN so that you have to pay extra in order to use ICS on those phones. However, such restrictions are easily removed via a few registry hacks.

Apparently Connection Sharing/USB is Available
Check the pocketnow.com website under windows phone for a detailed explanation of how to do it...
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/samsung-focus-does-tethering-after-all-on-windows-phone-7

A third party app like this is not possible at the moment I believe. The WP7 SDK currently doesn't have support for sockets (yet) so any network based app are limited to web services only.

[Q] Adding root certificates to the xoom

Hi All,
As an NYU student, I'm having a hard time connecting my Moto XOOM to the wireless network. IT wasn't helpful, but if you look at the instructions here: http://www.nyu.edu/its/wireless/configure/nyu.html#seven step 8 indicates that I use the Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority, which is missing from the xoom. Is there any way to install root certificates from approved CAs? I have been trying to find a solution for the xoom and couldn't find anything....I feel like this should be a basic part of the OS....
Thanks in advance!
--Q

I have a similar post but since you are trying to install a root ca it may be more successful for you.
If you can get the CA into a .cer or .p12 format and then save it to your xoom, under settings go to Settings> Location & Security > Install from USB storage, it should detect the file and install it . It is my understanding that multiple apps can use these secure credentials. You may want to give this a shot as is the only way I have been able to something like this although it has not solved my problem.
Best of luck

Motorola has a guide for this, but it seems to be lacking some key steps: https://motorola-enterprise.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57093

quordandis said:
Hi All,
As an NYU student, I'm having a hard time connecting my Moto XOOM to the wireless network. IT wasn't helpful, but if you look at the instructions here: step 8 indicates that I use the Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority, which is missing from the xoom. Is there any way to install root certificates from approved CAs? I have been trying to find a solution for the xoom and couldn't find anything....I feel like this should be a basic part of the OS....
Thanks in advance!
--Q
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I know they are working on cert installation on the Moto forums.
Go the site -- search for Motorola forums in Google -- and search for "Exchange ActiveSync authentication with client certificates." (I'm too new here to be allowed to post URLs. )