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[Q] hltetmo vs hltecan. Also question about bootloaders.

What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:

jtl999 said:
What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know

jtl999 said:
Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
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I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.

radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
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Please try with Telus firmware please. Currently on MJ1

radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
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The harm in trying is a hardbrick.

Well yes there is that, however I am not overly fussed about it, as most HB's can be revived. I am aware of all the risks, so will be my fault 100% if I brick myself.

I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3

Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?

Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader

radicalisto said:
CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
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Sorry. Can't understand exactly. What exactly means what versions you can run with a new bootloader?

MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

radicalisto said:
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I know how bootloaders work. Isn't there a way to omit bootloaders from Odin tar.md5 updates? Once I/Someone figures that out I'm golden staying with my old bootloader. Currently on MJ1.

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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hi, can you elaborate?
i always thought samsung doesn't let you downgrade to an older bootloader. but if you install CM (not samsung official updates) the bootloader doesn't get updated so you can downgrade in the future.
unless you upgrade to 4.4.2 official samsung ROM and update the bootloader, then you'll never be able to downgrade again?

jtl999 said:
Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
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No, if you want to try out kitkat i recommend you to use a cyanogenmod based 4.4 like probam, it doesn't update your bootloader and you can just downgrade back to jellybean
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3

KNOX

guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
one more thing
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that

re: upgrading
freakzapster said:
guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
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You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!

Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
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buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2

freakzapster said:
buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
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Yeah you can flash Stock via ODIN or you can install CWM/TWRP and use a custom recovery. -- Make sure REACTIVATION LOCK is OFF before you do anything or it won't work.

[Q] Help! Stock ROM backup not working!

I rooted my sprint note 3 today and installed the AICP lollipop ROM. Before I installed this I backed up my stock ROM. When I tried to restore the stock ROM, it boots up to a black screen and a pop up shows up for nearly all of my apps that says they are not responding so all I get is that and a black screen. Is this because I went from a 5.0 ROM to a 4.4.4 one? Is there any way to get my stock ROM working again ? I'm using TWRP on a Sprint Note 3 SM-N900P. All help would be much appreciated.

LittleStes said:
I rooted my sprint note 3 today and installed the AICP lollipop ROM. Before I installed this I backed up my stock ROM. When I tried to restore the stock ROM, it boots up to a black screen and a pop up shows up for nearly all of my apps that says they are not responding so all I get is that and a black screen. Is this because I went from a 5.0 ROM to a 4.4.4 one? Is there any way to get my stock ROM working again ? I'm using TWRP on a Sprint Note 3 SM-N900P. All help would be much appreciated.
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You can't downgrade if you upgraded the Kitkat Bootloader to Lollipop.

amk19 said:
You can't downgrade if you upgraded the Kitkat Bootloader to Lollipop.
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Is there a lollipop touchwiz rom out anywhere for the sprint note 3 that I could use?

LittleStes said:
Is there a lollipop touchwiz rom out anywhere for the sprint note 3 that I could use?
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You can use AryaMod Custom Lollipop ROM by @kmokhtar79.
I heard that this ROM work on Sprint NOTE 3.
Thanks.

amk19 said:
You can use AryaMod Custom Lollipop ROM by @kmokhtar79.
I heard that this ROM work on Sprint NOTE 3.
Thanks.
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Does it? I haven't gotten confirmation in my searches and want to be sure before I flash the rom. Thanks

is this guide to root lolipop legit?

I noticed the lollipop update is now available for the note 3. However I still want to keep root. I searched google and found this guide, but I'm not sure if its legit or works.
http://www.android.gs/root-galaxy-note-3-n900-on-android-5-0-lollipop-using-odin/

Not sure, but did you see Hsbadr post in android dev...it's a rooted stock lollipop rom

Pay close attention...that is for the N900 International N3 that does not have a locked bootloader.

droidstyle said:
Pay close attention...that is for the N900 International N3 that does not have a locked bootloader.
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It's not the international N3, as those are modeled "N900n" where n is a number. The N900 is a SIM unlocked US variant that works on GSM only carriers. (All US variants are N900(x) where x is a letter representing the carrier. No Carrier leaves x blank.)
*EDIT*
Just to reiterate, this won't work on the N900V

The point is it does not work for Verizon or Att with locked bootloaders.

mjh68 said:
Not sure, but did you see Hsbadr post in android dev...it's a rooted stock lollipop rom
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I'm running Root stock lollipop now. Hasbdr decided to call it Jasmine Rom, but it's just rooted atock:sly:
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If I understand correctly there is currently no way to install Janine ROM of you are already on lollipop right? I just bought a used note three but haven't gotten it yet to see which firmware is on it. In coming from a g2 where there were plenty of ways to root

9646gt said:
If I understand correctly there is currently no way to install Janine ROM of you are already on lollipop right? I just bought a used note three but haven't gotten it yet to see which firmware is on it. In coming from a g2 where there were plenty of ways to root
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If you're already on lollipop than you cannot root or flash any roms. You need to be on either 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 already rooted with safe strap installed to install the rooted stock rom

Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed

robotnikman said:
Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed
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basically but its a little more than just flashing make sure to read the instructions

robotnikman said:
Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60178468
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Galaxy S4 [i337m] ROM update help

Hi guys!
My dad has been using the above mentioned device for the past 5.5 years. The device is running a stock rooted 4.2.2 MDJ build. His bank is about to stop the support for the 4.2.2 version so we need to update the OS. The minimum required OS is now KitKat but I would like a more moderate ROM. Is it possible to have for e.g. an Oreo based ROM without Knox? In other words, do some ROMs include a Knox bootloader (to enable them to run)?
Thanks for the help!

Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att

audit13 said:
Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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Thanks for the reply!
As I said I would like to evade to flash the Knox bootloader. I know Samsung made it impossible to use their OS without Knox so I'm guessing my only option is to use custom ROMs. Are there any ROMs that still utilise the old bootloader?

You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.

audit13 said:
You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.
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Root is in place just to disable OTA and by the looks of it the banking app doesn't care.
Regarding Knox, I actually think of it as a security downgrade because the NSA played a part in its development and they are known to spy on people. I feel safer when it's not installed LMAO

Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.

audit13 said:
Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.
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It's the SGH-I337M. Canadian model. CSC is TLS (Telus)

Okay, just wanted to make sure it wasn't the att model because the 4.3 or newer bootloader is locked on the non-m version.

Anybody have any suggestions for a ROM? It doesn't necessarily need to be the latest version of Android. It just needs to be compatible with the old bootloader

If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.

AoEKiller said:
If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.
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Don't worry. I won't I am just looking for an at least 4.4 ROM without Knox
AFAIK Knox is on the 4.3 build

Here are a few pics if some of you still don't believe me

Anyone?
Heard also Chrome is losing support for Android 4.2.2