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Hi everyone,
I'm a new smartphone user, but I finally got one in the form of the Xperia Play. Upon doing research on the phones, I find that I'd definitely like to root the phone, and seeing that Verizon made a change to their version made me sad. Now, as I got the phone a few days ago, I was wondering:
Can the Verizon version of the phone be even rooted? i.e., should I keep this phone and wait for someone to root the phone, or will this more than likely not ever happen and I should go back and exchange it for a different model?
Thank you for any information.
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I'm optimistic about GingerBreak being updated soon to allow root for the R800x. As of right now, version 1.2 just says "rooting" forever. I left it for 8 hours to no avail.
I believe it will be rooted with a future update for Gingerbreak.
Anything around will eventually get root. Its a fact of life basically
I'm willing to bet money that the verizon play will be rooted very soon.
RacecarBMW said:
Anything around will eventually get root. Its a fact of life basically
I'm willing to bet money that the verizon play will be rooted very soon.
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I have to agree with you. Even though it is frustrating right now that I don't have root I am willing to wait it out
Can't you flash to generic system image, then root?
Blagus said:
Can't you flash to generic system image, then root?
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Don't we have to have the BL unlocked in order to flash a generic image? Also I was checking out some of your post on the Arc forums I don't think Verizon is sim locked just CDMA and fastboot detects our phones just the unlock code doesn't work is there anyway the brute force or trick the phone to unlock? I would be willing try anything for the sake of the Verizon play's.
yes please please can we get some dev love on the verizon version of this phone.. I've had the phone 5 days and love the controls, but would like to see root access and all other types of goodies. Verizon is a bootloader locking b*tch, but there has to be someway around it. Unfortunately i think most of the devs on this phone aren't US/verizon customers so I don't think we're gonna see it too quick. I only have 9 more days to make a decision on whether or not to keep the phone or not...
Please if there is anyone reading this thread working on helping to crack this phone on Big Red please let us know... Unrooted + 3g reception issues might make me have to abandon one of the coolest phones i've ever owned...
Just take system.sin and loader.sin, make flash bundle and flash with flashtool. But be careful, if you don't have original Verizon's system.img, and you lose CDMA...
Blagus said:
Just take system.sin and loader.sin, make flash bundle and flash with flashtool. But be careful, if you don't have original Verizon's system.img, and you lose CDMA...
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Wouldn't this require us to have unlocked bootloaders? Currently you can't get that on VZW/CDMA to my knowledge.
ryocoon said:
Wouldn't this require us to have unlocked bootloaders? Currently you can't get that on VZW/CDMA to my knowledge.
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Flashtool can be used with a locked bootloader (see link below). Just put your phone into update mode just like you would with SEUS, and load your FTF file on the phone.
The trick is getting the generic UK R800i firmware to work correctly on the Verizon R800x. Nobody has done it, so there is the possibility of the CDMA radio not working after flashing (and other things may not work either). And AFIAK there is no R800x FTF file out there you can use to go back. But the R800i generic UK 2.3.2 firmware is rootable, so it could potentially be one way to do it.
It is possible to load the generic R800i UK 2.3.2 build on a Canadian Rogers branded/locked R800a, so theoretically it could potentially be a viable alternative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108239
Yeah, cross-flashing is possible but there's possibility of loosing CDMA.
But I doubt this will happen since amss/radio is not located in /system, only some radio-related files which shouldn't affect this.
Anyways, grab /system/build.prop and if you'll need to go back, restore it, chmod 777, reboot phone, turn off, run SEUS.
I just updated my Play using SEUS/PC Companion to the recently released 4.0.2.A.0.42 update. I purchased my phone for the bargain price of £149 a few weeks back from an O2 store and was happy that its installation of Android wasn't branded and that the update prior to this (2.3.3) wasn't either.
However, I have just witnessed the O2 boot up screen and fun features like wap.o2.com being my home screen.
Is this normal?
I'm wanting to keep my phone unrooted and bootloader locked for the moment, but is there any way of getting an unbranded 4.0.2.A.0.42 ?
Thanks
I did it using the free thingy from wotanserver and im on the latest uk generic after waiting for my o2 phone to get the update. it is free btw and didnt take too long. I then checked and repaired via pc companion just to make sure I was running the very latest and it is
Thanks! Are you in the same situation with an unroot/locked bootloader as myself? I think with Wotan I would be able to change the CDA? I'm not sure what that entails exactly, but I may give it a go. More info surrounding it would be helpful.
Just use flashtool like i did and update it to the generic uk vershion of the latest firmware no o2 splash screen i knew o2 would do this
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Thanks! Are you in the same situation with an unroot/locked bootloader as myself? I think with Wotan I would be able to change the CDA? I'm not sure what that entails exactly, but I may give it a go. More info surrounding it would be helpful.
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yeah i was previously locked and rooted and i did the wotan way thingy. I dont know about the CDA but you can have a look before you do anything
If you use the wotanserver client do you lose your root? & does it wipe all data & apps?
Bought mine unbranded from Sony Ericsson's website, and its continued to be unbranded since, Ermm just root with the Zergrush method, takes about a minute todo, and no one has had problems as fare as I know.
AwaisKhan said:
If you use the wotanserver client do you lose your root? & does it wipe all data & apps?
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While it may not do it (I'm unsure myself) it's good practice to always backup before making any major changes. And as TheCraig says, it's easy enough to root again.
dn* said:
However, I have just witnessed the O2 boot up screen and fun features like wap.o2.com being my home screen.
Is this normal?
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That's is weird. I have an O2 PLAY and I updated through the manager too, but mines not branded in any way.
The answer to your question: No its not normal
Does it wipe all your apps then?
AwaisKhan said:
Does it wipe all your apps then?
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yes i had to put it all back onto the phone
doubleluckstur said:
That's is weird. I have an O2 PLAY and I updated through the manager too, but mines not branded in any way.
The answer to your question: No its not normal
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Thanks. It's a bit naff for me because while it's O2 locked, Tesco Mobile uses the O2 network and their SIMs seem to be able to bypass the SIM lock.
BTW doubleluckstur, as you're an O2 user - have you lost your warranty on the phone? I'm still looking around to see how best to approach unlocking the bootloader/rooting and warranty preservation. Am I right in thinking that the official SE method of unlocking bootloader won't work on our O2 Plays?
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Thanks. It's a bit naff for me because while it's O2 locked, Tesco Mobile uses the O2 network and their SIMs seem to be able to bypass the SIM lock.
BTW doubleluckstur, as you're an O2 user - have you lost your warranty on the phone? I'm still looking around to see how best to approach unlocking the bootloader/rooting and warranty preservation. Am I right in thinking that the official SE method of unlocking bootloader won't work on our O2 Plays?
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All you have to do is flash a generic rom before you update to 2.3.4 The rom that comes with the o2 plays will have some kind of o2 trigger that is leading to the branded update.
Flash this rom with flashtool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097591
then update using SEUS. Bet you wont have all the o2 ****
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BTW doubleluckstur, as you're an O2 user - have you lost your warranty on the phone? I'm still looking around to see how best to approach unlocking the bootloader/rooting and warranty preservation. Am I right in thinking that the official SE method of unlocking bootloader won't work on our O2 Plays?
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I dont think you can ever lose your warranty. As long as you have a stock, unrooted phone, the guy in the o2 shop will be clueless.
As to your other question, the official way does not work. You're right, so don't put your IMEI in the bootloader unlocker because it won't work.
I wanna share my experience with my locked bootloader.
I tried once to unlock and install a "just 4 unlocked" rom (2 roms actually) but the radio system didn't work (no phone, no wifi, no gps).
I got back by flashtools, i installed a rom 4 locked rom and i tried once more to unlock the BL. I installed CM10.1 and now everything is working perfect!!!
I got just a question 4 you: why does some xperia z has the BL locked while others unlocked?
e753 said:
I wanna share my experience with my locked bootloader.
I tried once to unlock and install a "just 4 unlocked" rom (2 roms actually) but the radio system didn't work (no phone, no wifi, no gps).
I got back by flashtools, i installed a rom 4 locked rom and i tried once more to unlock the BL. I installed CM10.1 and now everything is working perfect!!!
I got just a question 4 you: why does some xperia z has the BL locked while others unlocked?
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All Xperia Zs come locked from the factory. Most can be unlocked to flash custom roms. Some are permanently locked because their carriers are iffy (to put it nicely), but those are the minority.
Keep Questions in the Q/A section, not in General.
And No SONY device comes with locked Bootloader always. All are locked by default from the factory. Among which some can be unlocked and some can not because the Carrier.
auni said:
Keep Questions in the Q/A section, not in General.
And No SONY device comes with unlocked Bootloader. All are locked by default from the factory. Among which some can be unlocked and some can not because the Carrier.
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Ok, but my gadget showed "no in Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status > Bootloader unlock allowed (and in the post about unlock BL they says that if it's "no" the device cannot be unlocked).
Thank you
PS: How can i move the 3d to Q/A ?
That is what I said.
All the Devices are locked bootloader by default.
Bootloader unlock allowed= Yes -- This means you can unlock the bootloader by following regular method.
Bootloader unlock allowed= NO -- This means you can not unlock the bootloader. Because of the Carrier issue i believe.
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That is what I said.
All the Devices are locked bootloader by default.
Bootloader unlock allowed= Yes -- This means you can unlock the bootloader by following regular method.
Bootloader unlock allowed= NO -- This means you can not unlock the bootloader. Because of the Carrier issue i believe.
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thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
e753 said:
thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
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I think you will always have been able to unlock yours, you just didn't do it right the first time.
So are you saying you have a locked boatloader and can install. CM10????
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e753 said:
thx i got it.
But mine showed Bootloader unlock allowed= NO but i was able to unlock it after 2 try. I think every one following my procedure might do it.
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did you root it and put a different ROM on there? the status might change say no but you can still unlock it. Simply put if first time you boot up your phone and it say Unlock bootloader = NO, then dont try to unlock it. When you root and flash a different rom that status might change to yes but in reality it still a NO
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did you root it and put a different ROM on there? the status might change say no but you can still unlock it. Simply put if first time you boot up your phone and it say Unlock bootloader = NO, then dont try to unlock it. When you root and flash a different rom that status might change to yes but in reality it still a NO
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Eventually a right answer.
I was told the same. But i love to risk "playing" with my gadgets. So when i bought the xperia z through a carrier I saw the first time i boot up that the phone Unlock bootloader = NO (about 5 minutes after i bought it from the shop, so it was "original as the carrier made it).
I didn't care it and i tried to unlock. I installed a unlocked bootloader and rom and i had all that problems with the radio stuff . But the second time, after i recovered it by flashtool and a sw from sony (i don't remember the name) I was allowed to unlock it and install unlocked stuff. Now I am with Paranoid and I am so happy
e753 said:
Eventually a right answer.
I was told the same. But i love to risk "playing" with my gadgets. So when i bought the xperia z through a carrier I saw the first time i boot up that the phone Unlock bootloader = NO (about 5 minutes after i bought it from the shop, so it was "original as the carrier made it).
I didn't care it and i tried to unlock. I installed a unlocked bootloader and rom and i had all that problems with the radio stuff . But the second time, after i recovered it by flashtool and a sw from sony (i don't remember the name) I was allowed to unlock it and install unlocked stuff. Now I am with Paranoid and I am so happy
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so you were able to unlock it even though it says no?
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so you were able to unlock it even though it says no?
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Really interested in this cause I am in the same situation, carrier locked with bootloader locked for good.
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Really interested in this cause I am in the same situation, carrier locked with bootloader locked for good.
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same here... unlock it. install all the unlocked stuff. Radio might don't work. . Get ur phone back by flashtool and sony sw (i don't rememmber the name). The sony software will say u after a while u r not able to recover the phone cuz you are using some some software that is not sony. Don't worry and install another time a rom unbranded by flashtool.
now unlock the phone again and install everything u might like
There is only a problem with the twrp recovery, so use only the other one
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same here... unlock it. install all the unlocked stuff. Radio might don't work. . Get ur phone back by flashtool and sony sw (i don't rememmber the name). The sony software will say u after a while u r not able to recover the phone cuz you are using some some software that is not sony. Don't worry and install another time a rom unbranded by flashtool.
now unlock the phone again and install everything u might like
There is only a problem with the twrp recovery, so use only the other one
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Can anyone else confirm this?
Thanks!
Very interesting... Im waiting the confirmation from sony to pick up my phone without cost to change the fastboot to yes, but if this is true and someone else could confirm this method il do it tonight!!!!
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I think if you want others to try what you've done, (and it is interesting if we can unlock bootloaders this way)
then you may want to highlight which steps you did in more detail.
Which roms did you try to flash that resorted in no radio functions?
which rom did you try to flash with flashtool? which version of flashtool as well?
Did you do anything else?
I somehow doubt engineers would make an oversight as big as this one.
But fingers crossed nevertheless.
+1 for a detailed description of the steps you took. This could be huge!
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I somehow doubt engineers would make an oversight as big as this one.
But fingers crossed nevertheless.
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Indeed, this move would make the XZ much more attractive for buyers which have the bootloader locked from the carrier.
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Indeed, this move would make the XZ much more attractive for buyers which have the bootloader locked from the carrier.
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this must be the first topic on xperia z´s forum hehehe.
My S4 is locked to 3 UK.
I would like to flash UK unbranded firmware.
Can I just flash the UK unbranded firmware without unlocking the phone first or must I unlock it first?
I intend to continue using the phone with 3UK. I don't want to brick the phone.
I just want to get rid of as much unwanted junk apps on the phone as I can. I have no intention (currently) of using the phone with any other network.
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My S4 is locked to 3 UK.
I would like to flash UK unbranded firmware.
Can I just flash the UK unbranded firmware without unlocking the phone first or must I unlock it first?
I intend to continue using the phone with 3UK. I don't want to brick the phone.
I just want to get rid of as much unwanted junk apps on the phone as I can. I have no intention (currently) of using the phone with any other network.
dog-man
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Nobody know the answer to this?
dog-man
dog-man said:
Nobody know the answer to this?
dog-man
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You can flash any firmware for your variant, and it will still locked to your service provider
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And it will not brick the phone?
I was told on another forum that it could not be flashed to any other firmware except 3 uk because it is sim locked.
I just want to be sure before I flash it.
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dog-man said:
And it will not brick the phone?
I was told on another forum that it could not be flashed to any other firmware except 3 uk because it is sim locked.
I just want to be sure before I flash it.
dog-man
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no, it will not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41176429&postcount=40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41209736&postcount=58
Can confirm this can be done. I own i9505 preordered from 3UK, locked to their network because of contract. And I am running 4.2.2 Google edition ROM with root.
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Hey Gang!
I was all set to get started helping to get AOSP ported (working with Untouchab1e) and it seems TMO has locked the bootloader something previously was reserved for att.
Needless to say I'm very upset, and will be returning the device.
There is no way around this right?
Not be surprised, Z, Z1s are also locked.
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nycbjr said:
Hey Gang!
I was all set to get started helping to get AOSP ported (working with Untouchab1e) and it seems TMO has locked the bootloader something previously was reserved for att.
Needless to say I'm very upset, and will be returning the device.
There is no way around this right?
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Very disappointing.
But please, note that it's not sony fault: Sony does not permanently lock the bootloader.
The problem here is the carrier. Sony will unlock your device if the device is sim unlocked, that's the only way to unlock but you need to pay the Unlock Code and have to send to Sony directly.
As you can see in Lollipop, SELinux is actually locking the root acces, so, you need to unlock the bootloader and change the kernel.
If you want to root a locked device running Lollipop, it's currently impossible, so BE AWARE!
P.S. I'm not saying that the Z3 is in Lollipop, but the update is imminent.
HTC does not charged for unlock code, only Sony does this!
All sony phones that will be shipped to a carrier to sell them comes with the "bootloader unlockable=NO", the others that are allowed to unlock bootloader comes directly from Sony, so don't be surprised with this issue, always has benn like that.
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HTC does not charged for unlock code, only Sony does this!
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Well, if you are talking about SIMLOCK code, you have to purchase it to your carrier. In my country (I don't know others), the law say that if the phone have 2 years and you don't renew contract, the carrier MUST have to unlock your device for FREE. Otherwise, purchase the SIMLOCK code. Sony will refuse to unlock the bootloader if the phone is SIMLOCKED.
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Very disappointing.
But please, note that it's not sony fault: Sony does not permanently lock the bootloader.
The problem here is the carrier. Sony will unlock your device if the device is sim unlocked, that's the only way to unlock but you need to pay the Unlock Code and have to send to Sony directly.
As you can see in Lollipop, SELinux is actually locking the root acces, so, you need to unlock the bootloader and change the kernel.
If you want to root a locked device running Lollipop, it's currently impossible, so BE AWARE!
P.S. I'm not saying that the Z3 is in Lollipop, but the update is imminent.
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Interesting, so if I was able to convince t-mobile to sim unlock I could then send that to sony? how does one do this? link possibly?
I got a suggestion to try selling it on craigslist than paying the difference to get the international version.
Anyone really want one now?
Pay off your phone if you are on EIP, then activate and use your phone at least 45 days (I guess), T-Mobile will unlock your phone free of charge.
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ehh....I'm gonna be receiving mine tomorrow in the mail but this might bug me a little. I've rooted/unlocked all my previous phones (galaxy 2-4) and I'm pretty used to being able to do that. I'm hoping that this phone is just so awesome that I won't feel the itch to flash things anymore.
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Pay off your phone if you are on EIP, then activate and use your phone at least 45 days (I guess), T-Mobile will unlock your phone free of charge.
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bootloader lock and sim lock are completely different
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bootloader lock and sim lock are completely different
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I knew it. My answer was for sim unlock.
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I don't much care about the bootloader, but not being able to root and in turn not being able to use xposed might be cause for a return....if only the nexus 6 was a more reasonable size.
nycbjr said:
Interesting, so if I was able to convince t-mobile to sim unlock I could then send that to sony? how does one do this? link possibly?
I got a suggestion to try selling it on craigslist than paying the difference to get the international version.
Anyone really want one now?
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Yeah!! I've followed this tuto: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=746342 for a client, he told me that sending from GT to UK were no problem an he paid the taxes. At the phone arrived from Sony UK, the bootloader was allowed to unlock. You may think that is better to sold the locked phone and pay the difference to get a phone, but my client don't think so and he gave me the chance to probe that SIMLOCK method is actually functional.
Hope it work for you if you wanna try.
(My client's phone was a Xperia Z2 locked by Claro)
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I don't much care about the bootloader, but not being able to root and in turn not being able to use xposed might be cause for a return....if only the nexus 6 was a more reasonable size.
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Root may still be possible, sit tight.
You can obtain an Unlock Code through Sony choosing Sony Xperia Z3, however the fastboot unlock command is restricted (that would have been TOO easy!).
Code:
fastboot -i 0x0fce oem unlock [insert code here]
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FAILED (remote: Command not allowed)
finished. total time: -0.000s
While I'm sure it won't work, has anybody tried the Towel/Quick Root exploit that worked for the Z1s and the Z2 to obtain root without unlocking the BL? These T-Mo variants sometimes surprise us ...
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While I'm sure it won't work, has anybody tried the Towel/Quick Root exploit that worked for the Z1s and the Z2 to obtain root without unlocking the BL? These T-Mo variants sometimes surprise us ...
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Towelroot says that the device isn't compatible.
wow and i was about to jump from the S5 guess ill be sticking with my S5 since that has a unlocked bootloader and root
So I sold the tmo, and ordered the D6603 international dual sim. Should be here mid next week. I can then start working on getting AOSP on the Z3
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So I sold the tmo, and ordered the D6603 international dual sim. Should be here mid next week. I can then start working on getting AOSP on the Z3
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You mean D6633?