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OK so from what I can gather looking at this forum and various stuff on the web the issues with this phone are (not in order of importance)
1. UI lags. However, this can be overcome via a 3rd party launcher and some 'Nand' hacks? which pardoxicallly means limited app memory again !
2. The GPS is unreliable. It can be fine one time and refuse to lock on another time?
3. The WiFi connection is also unstable for many users?
4. The battery life is not very good out of the box but improves after a few recharges? However, its still difficult to get a full day if using it heavily?
5. Samsung have a poor record when it comes to updates. There is no guarantee when / if the phone will be updated so it should be bought based solely on the features it has today?
Have I got this about right ? Anything missing or just wrong ? Are there any known fixes for issues 2 and 3 above.
Please note this not an attack on the phone I am considering buying and, as much as possible, I want to understand upfront what the issues are.
Don't forget Kies is rubbish and there's no apps for Android on the Kies marketplace, despite what the manual says.
If you are on a Mac (and presumably Linux) you have to enable USB debugging mode to be able to mount it as a USB storage device.
1 and 2 applies to my phone and I must be having a memory leak issue. My available memory drops pretty steadily throughout the day even after killing all the apps with a task manager. I need to reboot once or twice a day or the phone dips below 100mb. My guess is this is also the cause of the laggy UI.
My gps is quick to get a fix but it drops often for no good reason.
The wifi has been flawless for me, I'm on a 802.11n only network.
My battery is ok, not great but not bad either.
I still love this phone and I would buy again even with these minor annoyances.
Wifi wont reconnect when waking up from standby mode...(sometimes)
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1- pretty minor problem IMO, i don't bump into it a lot. Let's see what samsung will do.
2- From what i see, after upgrading a firmware the problem is solved, in most of the cases.
3- Seen reports, but i didn't bump into problems with it even once.
4- After comparing with a nexus one, an HTC desire and a motorola milestone, i can clearly say that currently, after 5-7 charges, the SGS has the best battery in the android market.
I manage to squeeze over 3 days of moderate use from my device, or 2 days of heavy use.
5- I can't really say anything about it, samsung does have a poor support record for it's devices.
I'm running firmware XXJF3
1.Lag) applies to me, with any launcher. it's ok most of the time, but when it happens it is very annoying.
2.GPS) No problems so far. Not using it much for navigation, thus. Just for stuff like checking into foursquare and buzz.
3.WiFi) No problems now. I had a strange problem with wlan not working at all at my first day with the device, but I did a factory reset once and since then I never had any problems with networking anymore.
4.battery life) Everything just as with the nexus one or G1: I need to charge it at least once a day, unless I do not really use it.
5.update support) It's annoying, and it's a shame. But except for the nexus one, there are not really better alternatives with better update support out there. At least here in Europe. Motorola and HTC and Sony all abandon their devices after a few month as well.
We can only hope that Samsung thinks this is something that is worth doing better than in the past, and better than the competition currently does. Or that building custom ROMs based on upcoming Android Versions on the Galaxy S is not going to be as difficult as psychoace thinks.
If Samsung fixes the blackout/lag issues soon with a new firmware, I'm going to keep the device. Most of the time it is a great mobile. I even like touchwiz 3.
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OK so from what I can gather looking at this forum and various stuff on the web the issues with this phone are (not in order of importance)
1. UI lags. However, this can be overcome via a 3rd party launcher and some 'Nand' hacks? which pardoxicallly means limited app memory again !
2. The GPS is unreliable. It can be fine one time and refuse to lock on another time?
3. The WiFi connection is also unstable for many users?
4. The battery life is not very good out of the box but improves after a few recharges? However, its still difficult to get a full day if using it heavily?
5. Samsung have a poor record when it comes to updates. There is no guarantee when / if the phone will be updated so it soils be bought based solely on the features it has today?
Have I got this about right ? Anything missing or just wrong ? Are there any known fixes for issues 2 and 3 above.
Please note this not an attack on the phone I am considering buying and, as much as possible, I want to understand upfront what the issues are.
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1. Yes I get lag. Very irritating on the supposed "most powerful phone around". On original jf 3 firmware though, but will surely try the new rom from modaco as I don't think I could live with this in the long term.
2. Only time I tried to use google navigation, it let me down badly.
3. Generally been ok but for the first time today I had wifi icon but no internet connection. Had to restart phone (toggling had no effect).
I've had other issues as well, complete lock ups, mass storage randomly not working, and other weird seemingly random behaviour.
Overall, so far this has been a frustrating device to live with. Things can only get better I hope.
Latest firmware seems to have solved almost all of these "problems"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718621
Latest firmware released today solved the lag problem.
Not sure about the others. never had problems with the GPS.
Wifi connection was solved 2 firmwares ago
As a new nexus 4 owner, I am trying to get a handle on how many people are getting issues with there Nexus after the 4.3 update, therefore a quick poll might help me and others in this area. I realize that this forum is not a completely representative selection but it's better than nothing.
Before you reply please check the terms I have used:
Stock = as you got the device from the store, no root, no custom ROM, no hacks. OTA update.
Modified = root access, customer ROM used, update from 4.3 ROM
Problem = any of the issues in the problem post (signal, reboot, heating up, battery, netflix)
No Problem = no obvious issue, including things that have known work around (like Play store issue)
Hope this helps.
Yes a very few of the N4 users are having problems with 4.3.
I only find the DEADLOCK ISSUE(Phone hangs for 5-6 secs)annoying and that is a JSS issue not with JRW..
Hope PA team solves this bug(partially solved). :good:
Have battery drain until restart. Then it's fine for unknown time. Phone can't go deep sleep. Better Battery Stats says phone is awake 95.6% of the time after unplugged.
Android OS is keeping the phone awake. Just installed Wakelock Detector to see what causing it.
Title say's most of it, but I have a rooted 4.2.2 stock MF9, TWRP recovery, with kernel version 3.4.0-953334 which re-boot's if I try to manually or through other means attempt to change the IP table. Installed and ran Android Firewall by jtschohl and when I tried to apply rules device re-booted! Tried with Avast firewall and received same results. jtschohl was nice enough to respond (very quickly I might add) to the crash report I sent and pointed out that a particular Samsung build had a kernel issue that caused this problem. I would not have been smart enough to figure this out on my own - true.
I have spent a few hours reviewing at XDA posts about updating to newer 4.4.2 (or other) and it seems like a very problem laden process - too many reports of excessive battery drain, lock screen, voicemail, wi-fi, etc issue's that I simply don't have on my current build. Currently with the Samsung app's I don't need frozen via Titanium, a custom launcher, Llama, and a few other changes I have a very stable, very fast, very reliable phone with the exception of not being able to implement a firewall (which I would really like for a couple of app's who talk too much!), evidently due to a kernel issue.
Question is - can I update the kernel to one without this IP table/re-boot issue without loosing stability, root, my current app's/data? I'm happy staying with 4.2.2 MF9 - no bootloader issue's introduced in 4.3 and beyond etc. - so that is my level of satisfaction with my current set-up. It also obviously reflects my level of competence and unwillingness to potentially screw up my phone - especially a boot loop type issue - which I encountered 1 time out of 7 devices I had otherwise successfully rooted over the last 2 years. My wife's S4 is at exactly the same level and has the identical issue BTW - mentioned since in my search I didn't seem to find this IP table issue discussed?
Hello Ultratablet users,
First, thanks for your continued support. If you are an Ultratablet user that has felt disappointed in your experience in any way, and would like to help us allocate our resources to be put to work efficiently, please read on.
With all of our products, we've consistently taken the approach of getting them in the hands of the users first, and then collecting as much feedback as possible so that we can improve upon the experience quickly and early in the life of the product. We are at our core, a software company first. That's why you would have experienced a lot of updates early when we first started shipping Ultratablets in the middle of 2015.
The earliest updates fixed critical issues that affected the majority of users. Later, the updates addressed certain types of usage issues including video playback, widely used apps issues, etc. At that point in time, we also had support from the design house for the board.
We're at a point now where much of the issues we see our users reporting to be related to platform or firmware issues. Solutions for these types of issues need the design house that designed and manufactured the board in the Ultratablet to be involved. However, their support have now basically slowed to almost a stop because they generally move on from old business to focus on new business. This is an unfortunate, but business driven and standardized way of operations in our industry.
Thus, what we can still do today is deal with software related issues that we can resolve. For platform or firmware related issues, we have almost reached a proverbial ceiling. I write this so to be transparent and honest.
Moving forward, here are two ways we can collect information about the current issues affecting your Ultratablet experience and how we can still provide updates and support. Knowing what the current issues are is the first step to allocating resources to fix these issues.
1. Fill out the following form and please provide us as much detail as possible:
http://support.jide.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
2. Provide details of your issue in detail here in this thread. Please include:
Remix OS version (Found in 'Settings > About tablet')
Serial number (Found in 'Settings > About tablet')
Detailed explanation of issue including affected app(s), opened apps. A screenshot or a video of the issue goes a long way. These details help us attempt to reproduce the issue in-house so we can troubleshoot them here.
After a week or so, I will collect all the issues reported in the form and here, and I'll work with the product manager to work on an update that fixes what we can.
Thanks for your continued patience and understanding.
With all due respect, I would take the lack of responses you are sure to get to be indication of how most of us feel. While I get that we were supporting a Kickstarter campaign, I didn't quite expect to be left behind so quickly, hardware or not. It didn't take very long at all for new devices to come up, with new and better updates that NEVER would come to the first launch your company made.
I do get what the lack of responses may allude to. Since the Ultratablet Kickstarter campaign, we have issued around 30 updates and migrated the Ultratablet from to Remix OS 1.0 (based on Android 4.4) to Remix OS 1.5 (based on Android 5.0) to Remix OS 2.0 (based on Android 5.1). I also acknowledge that updates have been fewer and fewer for the past few months, especially since the Tegra 4 chip doesn't support Marshmallow.
I have thus far gotten one private message with a list of detailed issues the user is facing with the Ultratablet. With that list as our only compass, I'm working with the product manager to see what we can fix. If you could also share a list of the issues you face as well, we'd have more information to work on.
As far as new and better goes, are you reffering more to upgrades to Remix OS 3.0, which Ultratablet's chip doesn't support, or are you referring to specific features? If there are features from other versions of Remix OS that you feel would fit well on Ultratablet, we'd be happy to incorporate them.
Finally, I do apologize on behalf of all of us here if the Ultratable community feels "left behind". We do know that our earliest users put us on the map in the first place. We also have to first survive as a startup or else, we wouldn't even be chatting this moment.
Please leave us as detailed notes on your issues as possible. We're still commited on fixing the issues we can. Thanks.
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With all due respect, I would take the lack of responses you are sure to get to be indication of how most of us feel. While I get that we were supporting a Kickstarter campaign, I didn't quite expect to be left behind so quickly, hardware or not. It didn't take very long at all for new devices to come up, with new and better updates that NEVER would come to the first launch your company made.
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I posted this question sometime ago in the forum,did not get any respond from Remix.
I would like to know if Remix engineers will be releasing a kernel patch to fix the CVE-2016-5195 linux bug?
I'm usually the guy manning our XDA forums and it's much easier and faster for me to respond if you @me. I'll find an engineer tomorrow to talk to about this and I'll give you some feedback. Just to be sure, is this related to the Ultratablet or to Remix OS for PC? I see Linux, and I'm thinking the latter...
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I posted this question sometime ago in the forum,did not get any respond from Remix.
I would like to know if Remix engineers will be releasing a kernel patch to fix the CVE-2016-5195 linux bug?
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RemixOS_Jason said:
I'm usually the guy manning our XDA forums and it's much easier and faster for me to respond if you @me. I'll find an engineer tomorrow to talk to about this and I'll give you some feedback. Just to be sure, is this related to the Ultratablet or to Remix OS for PC? I see Linux, and I'm thinking the latter...
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It is related to ALL OS's based on the Linux kernel, Android, Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, etc.
For me the biggest problem is audio stuttering while screen is off. I have filled out a form as OP requested but I got answer that it is already fixed. Not for me, I am on the latest version and the problem is there. I did fastboot Remix OS image restoration and via OTA went to the latest. I would like to hear you loud if audio stuttering exist for you or I am the only one.
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Marcink00 said:
For me the biggest problem is audio stuttering while screen is off. I have filled out a form as OP requested but I got answer that it is already fixed. Not for me, I am on the latest version and the problem is there. I did fastboot Remix OS image restoration and via OTA went to the latest. I would like to hear you loud if audio stuttering exist for you or I am the only one.
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Yes I also get stuttering sometimes when I use Xiialive in it is in the background.
I just confirmed with the product manager that the November 1st and November 6th Android security patch issued by Google will be included in the next update for all of our Remix OS products including Ultratablet. Thanks for the assistance!
heavyt said:
It is related to ALL OS's based on the Linux kernel, Android, Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, etc.
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Thanks for sharing this along with the app that is having this issue.
@Marcink00 - Can you also help by indicating the app(s) that are creating this issue for you?
@Marcink00 @heavyt - Can I assume that you guys are all on the latest version of Remix OS on your Ultratablets?
Thanks again.
heavyt said:
Yes I also get stuttering sometimes when I use Xiialive in it is in the background.
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@RemixOS_Jason Yes I am on the lastest version. Aplications which trigger this issue are streaming apps, for me mainly Spotify and Soundcloud. My suspicion is when a screen goes off the tablet limits wifi data and because of it a stuttering appears.
@RemixOS_Jason Yes I am on the lastest version.
@RemixOS_Jason while we are having your attention here I would like to ask about one small enhancement. I am not aware if Remix OS 3.0 has it or not but a feature which I miss very much is expanding notification. In 2.0 we are not able to do so. Moreover the spotify notification does not have a playback controll at all.
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RemixOS_Jason said:
Thanks for sharing this along with the app that is having this issue.
@Marcink00 - Can you also help by indicating the app(s) that are creating this issue for you?
@Marcink00 @heavyt - Can I assume that you guys are all on the latest version of Remix OS on your Ultratablets?
Thanks again.
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@RemixOS_Jason I have discovered that I can stop the stuttering in audio when the tablet's screen is blank and an audio app is playing by connecting the tablet to a usb charger. So if the audio is suttering while the tablet's screen is sleep, plugging in a charger to the the tablet will stop the stuttering. So it seems the problem is active when the tablet is on battery power. This only works with a usb charger not the magnet charger.
Display Link Presenter & Screen Standby
Resolved since this post, however the request for widgets is still valid.
I am using these two apps along with a Targus USB docking station. This allows me to use an external monitor and it works well. The issue I have is with the Screen Standby. The only way to engage it is to open the play store and then open the app. I believe in normal Android, this app is widget based and for Remix therein lies the problem.
I have attempted to check open in full screen mode and normal mode with no improvement in either case.
Please consider adding widget support for those of us who do have requirements for widgets.
Thank you.
Hey Tom,
I just checked with the product manager and it appears that widget support was taken away from Ultratablet global users while the Chinese ROM kept it. I'm entirely sure why as the person in charge at the time is no longer on the project.
In any case, we'll add it to features that will show up in the next update. The ETA, I suspect for the next update is within a couple of weeks.
Thanks,
Jason
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Resolved since this post, however the request for widgets is still valid.
I am using these two apps along with a Targus USB docking station. This allows me to use an external monitor and it works well. The issue I have is with the Screen Standby. The only way to engage it is to open the play store and then open the app. I believe in normal Android, this app is widget based and for Remix therein lies the problem.
I have attempted to check open in full screen mode and normal mode with no improvement in either case.
Please consider adding widget support for those of us who do have requirements for widgets.
Thank you.
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I've just shared your comment with the product manager. For the past week or so, we've been trying to reproduce the issue without success. The closest our Ultratablets come to "stuttering" is that audio (for apps like spotify, soundcloud, etc) will lag for a split second after the Ultratablet goes to sleep. After that, on our Ultratablets, the audio returns and plays normally.
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@RemixOS_Jason I have discovered that I can stop the stuttering in audio when the tablet's screen is blank and an audio app is playing by connecting the tablet to a usb charger. So if the audio is suttering while the tablet's screen is sleep, plugging in a charger to the the tablet will stop the stuttering. So it seems the problem is active when the tablet is on battery power. This only works with a usb charger not the magnet charger.
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I've just shared your comment with the product manager. For the past week or so, we've been trying to reproduce the issue without success. The closest our Ultratablets come to "stuttering" is that audio (for apps like spotify, soundcloud, etc) will lag for a split second after the Ultratablet goes to sleep. After that, on our Ultratablets, the audio returns and plays normally.
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@RemixOS_Jason, I thank you for your quick response. But I am very puzzled that the problem can not be reproduce by your team. Have you tried with the keyboard attached and tablet running on battery only?
A quick solution would be to send the tablet that you have that is working without suttering to me and I will send you my tablet, OK?
I've got lots of complains about this tablet. I upgraded my Remix Mini pledge after raising a question about the Ultratablet's relatively old SOC and potential future support. Of course I was told that there's nothing to worry about and that it's a fully capable SOC that will receive enough future support. The Ultratablet was practically abandoned a mere year after its release, and I don't see the Mini getting any more than "Security and stability" updates, so we basically can forget about new features here.
I barely use my Ultratablet mainly because it's so damn buggy! Not to mention the usual stutter and not-so-fluid interface. I think those are the reasons even you guys stopped using it. If you were using your own tablet for only a few hours a week, I'm sure you'd find enough bugs to fix that'd keep you busy for another year.
And how about backporting new features back to the Ultratablet?
But if you insist only on bugs, let me make a short list for you:
1. It's impossible to simulate a right-click on tablet-mode (without a keyboard). Let's say you want to access the right-click menu of a running application on a taskbar without a keyboard - it's impossible to do.
2. There's a 50% change that the trackpad will miss my double-click action for opening apps.
3. Suddenly closing apps - this one is weird. I opened Chrome a couple of minutes ago, looked away for a second and it was gone. Same goes for other apps. Mostly happens with the Play Store (might be easier to find).
4. Battery life is still BAD. I started writing this post with around 90% , and now I have 71%. This is NOT normal by any means. You look at less than two hours normal usage. My phone got a smaller 3000mah battery and a QHD display and with the same usage PLUS cellular connectivity and Bluetooth on all the time I'd get triple if not more usage time.
5. When minimizing fullscreen apps, you'd get like a second of black screen time before the next app/desktop shows. Seems like a small thing but can sometimes drive you mad!
6. We used to have 5GHz network support on OS 1.5. Now it's gone! Plus, it doesn't pick as many networks as my other devices sitting right next to it.
I can go on all day about my problems with this device, and there are other, more critical bugs that I just can't remember now, since the last time I used this device was like a month ago (and that also lasted no more than an hour).
I'm willing to help provide logs/screen records or whatever necessary to get a better understanding of the issues I brought above.
I'm of course on the latest 2.0.305 version.
Cheers.
I think I can work the exchange out. I'll contact you in private messages so we can initiate the exchange.
As for the usage test, I'm using Spotify to stream music. Then, I set display sleep to 30sec. After it goes to sleep, the playlist continues to play without stuttering. The closest we've come to reproducing your issue is when I'm in SoundCloud, it will pause for half a second when the display goes to sleep. But then, the music picks back up without issue and continue playing.
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@RemixOS_Jason, I thank you for your quick response. But I am very puzzled that the problem can not be reproduce by your team. Have you tried with the keyboard attached and tablet running on battery only?
A quick solution would be to send the tablet that you have that is working without suttering to me and I will send you my tablet, OK?
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Hi, first post. I asked the question on another site some months back about deleting or stopping the install notification about the downloaded, although not installed Nougat update, no answers were forthcoming. My phone on 6.0.1 works great and I have no issues that warrant an upgrade. I have hardly any apps installed on it and really only use it for light internet, photos, the phone and GPS. I don’t really want to update it to Nougat due to some of the horror stories I have read. I am not (yet) very Android proficient.
Can I just leave the downloaded Nougat updated installed, but stop the daily notification to install it?
Or
Can I easily delete the downloaded but not installed Nougat update?
In this case I subscribe to the notion, if it isn’t broke don’t touch it. Maybe I am being too overly cautious.
Current details
Hardware: XT1642.
Version: 6.0.1
Build: MPJ24.139.23.4
Security Update: 1 May 2016
Any help steering me in the right direction is appreciated.
Cheers,
@CC2005
If you remove downloaded files, still it will not stop, then you will get notification for new update available and to download it.
Better if you update to latest version,
otherwise you need to restrict notification for moto updater app or data for it. (I don't remember correctly if those feature existed on MM, as the way it is present in N)
It looks as if I will have to just go ahead and install the OTA Nougat 7.0 update that has downloaded; as there doesn't seem to be a simple way of stopping the notification to install it. As mentioned, I didn't want to install Nougat as it works perfectly now on 6.01, maybe I am just worrying about nothing, obviously Nougat 7.0 doesn't stuff up all devices.
It is still in warranty so if an OTA update causes problems I may be able to return it?
Cheers
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It looks as if I will have to just go ahead and install the OTA Nougat 7.0 update that has downloaded; as there doesn't seem to be a simple way of stopping the notification to install it. As mentioned, I didn't want to install Nougat as it works perfectly now on 6.01, maybe I am just worrying about nothing, obviously Nougat 7.0 doesn't stuff up all devices.
It is still in warranty so if an OTA update causes problems I may be able to return it?
Cheers
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If there is any problems and if it's under warranty, you can surely take it to the service center.
As far as I know, if you get a replacement device, it will be updated to the latest version out of the box. So there is no way going back to MM.
If you still want to use MM, your only hope is custom ROMs.
You can't downgrade the official updates.
Nougat is not that bad. Most of us are waiting for Oreo and I am wondering how are you still on MM
Have a nice Day :good:
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If there is any problems and if it's under warranty, you can surely take it to the service center.
I am wondering how are you still on MM
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I have disabled most of the Motorola notifications "Motorola Update Services", "Motorola Notification" and one or two others. This sometimes prevents the "Install System Update" notification as long as I do not power it off, I put it to sleep by putting if face down. Although most of the time I have to delay the install manually by rescheduling the install time-pressing later etc when the message pops up.
I am a light user, and can get up to 8 days (rarely) usage out of a single charge, I have disabled a lot of Google & other Apps that I don't want to use, and turned off many Google Play Services. Lots of photos, calls and WiFi use I get 2-3 days use, so I am trying to keep the current OS. Also the works reasonably well in very hot weather taking photos and using the GPS-off line maps, it does at times get hot and can suffer camera issues and more so, GPS stuttering and lag above 35C-40+C but shade it from the sun and minimise use and it will work ok.
Cheers & have a great day too.
Ok, I've been operating with Nougat 7.0 for two months now. There are pros and cons and some of the cons I will adapt to as they are only preferences, minor setting and appearance.
My main concerns about the OS update were battery life and heating. Normal use, the battery drains a little quicker without WIFI or Sim data on, not enough to cause concern. But with WIFI and or sim data on, it definitely uses more battery power than before, almost at an average of 10%-15% more-not a scientific analysis. I am not a big data users so again not big concern. Although when using data, downloading, surfing etc, the battery rate depletes at a much quicker rate than before, I would estimate 30%-40% faster. I also notice the battery depletes much quicker when using the camera and the associated heat when using the camera feels (going by sense not measuring it) somewhat higher. The camera and video mode are the one that bother me and I forgot to mention, using offline maps, gps enabled (no WIFI or Sim data activated) the battery use is again higher than before.
So, I would have been better off on MM, yes, but it is what it is and I can work around the battery issue when I know my usage of those features will be heavy. A cheap pocket portable USB charger may need to be purchased.
I haven’t done a factory reset and I have only cleared the cache via settings app. Maybe the next step before a portable pocket USB charger is purchased.
Cheers