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As you know the Hero has a special coating on the screen, and through the first few days of use i found it awesome. Finger prints are never really much or a problem. But being afraid that the glass screen might get scratched i put on a screen protector but now sensitivity seems a little ( tiny ) bit less & the fingerprints are quite horrible. So just wondering who here uses it without the protector & does is scratch easily ? Comments welcomed
you do not need a screen protector for glass screen phones, such as the Hero or iPhone. My Hero has been getting a rough treatment for about 4 months now and not a scratch to be seen.
I got one from boxwave.com (Anti glare one)
http://www.boxwave.com/accessories/htc-hero-screen-protectors_3636.htm
It helps with smudges as well.
What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
Anyway, a screen with very minor scratches is not only more sensitive than a screen with protector, but better looking too. Bigger scratches, well, a protector won't protect from those.
imo a screen protector is pointless...ive been treating my hero rly badly and theres not even a tiny scratch...i can even fall drunk on the road with ur hero in hand and it doesnt break (tested)
pauliusba said:
What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
Anyway, a screen with very minor scratches is not only more sensitive than a screen with protector, but better looking too. Bigger scratches, well, a protector won't protect from those.
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theres an anti-fingerprint coating on the hero. Makes smudges harder to get on it and makes it very easy to clean it of. Thanks for the comment btw
heyodee said:
I got one from boxwave.com (Anti glare one)
http://www.boxwave.com/accessories/htc-hero-screen-protectors_3636.htm
It helps with smudges as well.
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i tried it before but didn't like how it detorriate the brilliance of the screen.
I was gonna get a screen protector for mine. But all they had at the time were the universal kind. And I knew better then to fall into that. But its been a week and not a scratch on it. I try not to put other objects in the same pocket and take notice when I'm doing something that may put the phone in danger. Making sure to remove it from harms way. But yeah... I don't think ill fall into the screen protector money pit with this phone. That's my opinion though. I spent a lot of cash on those things. Prolly enough that I could've just used my insurance and got a refurbished .
sdroid said:
theres an anti-fingerprint coating on the hero. Makes smudges harder to get on it and makes it very easy to clean it of. Thanks for the comment btw
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Yup...more and more touchscreens are going to it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleophobic
i have the white hero and about the screen, i thought there was a screen protector on it already when it came out of the box? doesnt it?
i tried peeling the corners a bit but not too much cuz i didnt want the corners to curl up and not stick anymore, and eventually it'll bug me and i'll have to rip the whole thing off (happened before) so i just left it alone and assumed theres a screen protector on the screen
thecodemonk said:
Yup...more and more touchscreens are going to it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleophobic
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how does everyone find this concept in practice? In the last few weeks the phobic part of it seems to be failing, or I need to wash my hands more often... just seems to be more dirty finger smudges hanging around until I give it a good wipe with a screen chamoise
streetdaddy said:
how does everyone find this concept in practice? In the last few weeks the phobic part of it seems to be failing, or I need to wash my hands more often... just seems to be more dirty finger smudges hanging around until I give it a good wipe with a screen chamoise
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Oh the fingerprints will still show up but I just wipe it off with my hand (a firm swipe up the screen) and it's as good as new.
The idea is that the oils do sit on top, but they aren't sticking so you can just wipe them off again.
Yeah i always am able to see the fingerprints but a swift wipe and theyre gone. I also always find that when i bring the phone out of my pocket the screen is perfectly cleaned every time. I like it
Mine has a very small (5mm) scratch. No idea how it happened
I too have a small scratch, about 3mm, in the middle-upper-right. No big deal, but its there if you look for it. It's a white Hero, if it matters.
Those scratches, on the screen?!
I have a tiny scratch on my screen too! It's over the black part next to the branding though so it's not a problem. I purchased a screen protector after this happened though, just to be safe.
I use a screen protector on mine (and a gel case) and I haven't noticed any problems with it being less sensitive.
When I first got the phone (G2) before I put the protector on I noticed the screen looked rubbish because it had fingerprints all over it....
I'm happy to use a screen protector to protect against scratches.... I wouldn't risk without as I want this baby to stay pristine
I like naked gadgets.
To those who got scratches, what type of environment does your phone get exposed to? Keys and coins normally won't scratch hardened glass, but dirt with rocks and sand will.
Hello,
After some day of using I've noticed that some areas of the glass seemed to get dirty more than other and always with the same shapes.
If you clean the glass they almost disappear, to return back when you touch the screen.
Someone sayd that can be a problem of the oilophobic protection that doesn't work fine in all the glass, does anyone know anything about?
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Might be the anti-fingerprint coating rubbing off. I've read of that happening to people.
The oleophobic coating does wear off - some sooner than others.. Same issues as the iphone 3GS and 4
Best idea is just to clean it, get a screen protector, and be done with it
I had that problem like 3-4 days after getting my device, they where not in the same area like yours , but I went to Best Buy and got it replaced.
That happened to mines too, I was wondering what the hell it might be. I had my spots in all four corners of the display.
The general consensus, to my knowledge, is just that the oleophobic coating used to help prevent finger oils from smudging the screen is just plain ****ty and has a tendancy to wear off rather quickly.
that sucks. screen protector time.
leyvatron said:
that sucks. screen protector time.
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Maybe you're right, although it's not the way i planned to solve it. :\
Thank you all, anyway.
mines messed up to. I just try not to think about it.
One tip, don't apply any pressure when wiping your phone... it will mess up the coating easily, and then that spot will always show up when you get finger oils on it.
is this issue covered under the warranty?
if u have been using ur phone without a screen protector like i did, u will notice that the coating of the the screen got several scratches all over that can only be seen in odd angles under a bright light........ is anyone else experiencing this or is it just me ?? !!!
i have got a dozen of fine scratches all over my screen........is there anything i can do about it ??
No screen protector, no scratches here. Have you tried to vigorously clean the areas with scratches? I thought I had a fine scratch a few days ago, but it cleaned off
yeah i tried to clean them off but in vain
they are small fine scratches in the coating, and some are long ones beside the speaker
i found out that the coating is highly scratchable which defeats the purpose of a gorilla glass
and if i use a SP on this beautiful screen it defeats the purpose of the coating too
im just thinking of leaving it as it is and when it looks really bad to remove the coating !!
unless there is something else i can do !!
anyone else experiencing same problem ?
is there any solution for this problem....AKA fixing oleophobic coating scratches ?
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105979
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I havnt got a screen protector on mine, but always keep it in my pdair case. Its still unscratched, not even the fine scratches you mentioned. Im actually waiting for my screen protector to arrive (in about 2 weeks time) so hopefully it stays this way.
Anyway you should try keep it in a pouch, away from sharps like sand and stone jewellery. Eg, womens diamond earrings will scratch your screen.
It is RULE for any portable screen based devices to NOT BE TOUCHED until screen protector placed on the device.
Not trying to sound rude in anyway (don't like scratches either), even if Gorilla glass is break resistant, it can still a scratched just like ant other material.
I guess your going to have to wait until repair parts start becoming available online for you to buy a replacement glass.
For phones with oleophobic coating, yes there will be fine scratches after a while only noticeable at weird angles and in bright light like you mentioned.
My Nexus S and every other nexus S I've seen has it (except brand new ones) and I'm sure the SGS2 is similar.
You just have to ask yourself, what's the point of the oleophobic coating if you put a screen protector over it?
Mustinky said:
anyone else experiencing same problem ?
is there any solution for this problem....AKA fixing oleophobic coating scratches ?
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no screen no case nothing to hide the beauty. just got it yesterday i will report back in a week.
malignau said:
I havnt got a screen protector on mine, but always keep it in my pdair case. Its still unscratched, not even the fine scratches you mentioned. Im actually waiting for my screen protector to arrive (in about 2 weeks time) so hopefully it stays this way.
Anyway you should try keep it in a pouch, away from sharps like sand and stone jewellery. Eg, womens diamond earrings will scratch your screen.
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im pretty sure if u examined ur screen under bright light at some odd angles u will notice fine scratches out there, i have been really careful with my phone and still i got like 8 fine scratches in the coating, it seems that the coating is highly scratchable which defeats the purpose of the gorilla glass which is scratch resistant
You know what a good solution is? Um using a screen protector....
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Extreme184X said:
It is RULE for any portable screen based devices to NOT BE TOUCHED until screen protector placed on the device.
Not trying to sound rude in anyway (don't like scratches either), even if Gorilla glass is break resistant, it can still a scratched just like ant other material.
I guess your going to have to wait until repair parts start becoming available online for you to buy a replacement glass.
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even if i got a new screen it will get scratched, the problem is not with the glass, i have been very careful, the coating is just highly scratchable, im thinking of removing the coating with some chemical dissolvent later when it really looks bad
dinan said:
For phones with oleophobic coating, yes there will be fine scratches after a while only noticeable at weird angles and in bright light like you mentioned.
My Nexus S and every other nexus S I've seen has it (except brand new ones) and I'm sure the SGS2 is similar.
You just have to ask yourself, what's the point of the oleophobic coating if you put a screen protector over it?
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yes exactly, the coating is there to protect the screen from oil and smudges, but it is highly scratchable which deafeats the purpose of a gorilla glass which is scratch resistant, so now i should put a screen protector to protect the coating from getting scratched, which in turn defeats the purpose of the coating as it will become totally useless !!!!
i think we shud just remove the coating at some point using some chemical dissolvents, as i find no point of keeping it under a screen protector anyway :S
Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....
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Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....
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Thats your opinion.
I have it as just a screen protector and it is fine. Much better than other protectors because with a case on it, it doesn't lift the screen protector edges.
The only issue I have with it is the screen oils up bad from fingerprints, easily fixed with one or two wipes over fabric
I guess this is an opinion too?
All that shows is you suck at applying screen protectors... lol.
You're supposed to install screen protectors in a dust free environment. Try turning the hot water on in the shower and waiting ~10 minutes, then try to install it.
Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.
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Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.
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I have used Ghost Armor many times, but have quit using wet-applied protectors in favor of glass protectors. (If I use one at all)
I guess your dust is more dusty than my dust.
I installed cheap mumbi display protectors on the front and back when i got the phone. Both without a single spot of dust or air under them. I don't even want to install my screen protector made of glass, as i then have to pull of the perfect installed normal protector.
Before installation, i had to wipe the screen several times as there was always new dust on it, i did not apply them wet or in my bathroom. Absolutely no problems, so i don't understand how there can be so much dust under the protector if anyone knows what he's doing.
Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
npaladin2000 said:
Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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It's completely possible you had a bad install...
Perhaps they use a better adhesive. I've never had any problem installing Ghost Armor, or any other "brand" screen protector.
xxquicksh0txx said:
Perhaps they use a better adhesive.
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Maybe so. I think I read at one point that their protectors could optionally be installed dry, so maybe they're designed that way. But better isn't necessarily good. And I notice their instructions specify a wet install now.
Incidentally I just tried scraping off the dust and reapplying the thing. Only this time in my relatively dust free datacenter. And guess what? It managed to find some dust from somewhere. Damn, they should compete with Swiffer.
Anyway my emergency Skinomi will be here on Thursday. In the meantime this screen is driving me nuts though.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3 using Tapatalk.
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Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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Interesting, I have used it on four phones, and not a single spec of dust on any of them if you prepare your surface correctly, I normally keep the phone screen facing the ground to stop dust settling on it, then apply holding the phone sideways as to keep as smallest surface area exposed to falling dust
Is it just me or is the screen on this phone really easily scratched. I got my op6t shortly after launch before there were any screen protectors that worked on the market and have been using it without one and the screen is extremely scratched. Far worse than many older phones I've also used without a protector. Definitely seems like this "gorilla glass" isn't what it used to be.
Would always use a screen protector on any phone,Still have factory applied one on my 6T,won't be taking it off unless it gets scratched.Dont think gorilla glass gives much protection
manus31 said:
Would always use a screen protector on any phone,Still have factory applied one on my 6T,won't be taking it off unless it gets scratched.Dont think gorilla glass gives much protection
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I've never had a screen scratch like this. I've never had a phone get anything but barely noticeable scratches. This thing is covered with deep gouges. Either gorilla glass quality has gone in the dumpster or this phone doesn't actually have it. But one this is for certain and this screen is very easily scratched like no other phone I have ever used.
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I've never had a screen scratch like this. I've never had a phone get anything but barely noticeable scratches. This thing is covered with deep gouges. Either gorilla glass quality has gone in the dumpster or this phone doesn't actually have it. But one this is for certain and this screen is very easily scratched like no other phone I have ever used.
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But you already removed the pre applied screen protector? If not than the scratches are on that protector! Just remove it and you have a new screen [emoji6]
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But you already removed the pre applied screen protector? If not than the scratches are on that protector! Just remove it and you have a new screen [emoji6]
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I got rid of that after a week. It was a sticky fingerprint magnet. Just terrible.
I share the same experience (not with the 6T though as it still has its original screen protector but) because my previous phones S8 and S9 seemed to scratch easier than my older phones. So I was afraid the same would happen to my 6T.
I did some research and this might have something to do with that more recent tempered glass generations have become 'more tempered' which may lead to scratches more easily. ''More tempering “makes the whole screen more tolerant to overall bending, as in dropping the phone,”. “But it does not necessarily improve the hardness of the glass [and] might actually make it slightly worse. It’s the hardness that enables scratch resistance.” - The Verge
This might be true or false, however, also don't forget that phones have become bigger and especially their screen to body ratio which perhaps makes scratches more prominent, as a scratch on the screen is more noticeable than one on the bezel.
You must be exposing it to some serious hard dust or setting it face down on hard surfaces. I had no screen protector on mine for almost a month and it was still flawless when I applied a glass protector about a week ago. With no changes in usage, there are several noticable deep scratches on my screen protector after just over a week using it. Something else must be at play with your situation
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You must be exposing it to some serious hard dust or setting it face down on hard surfaces. I had no screen protector on mine for almost a month and it was still flawless when I applied a glass protector about a week ago. With no changes in usage, there are several noticable deep scratches on my screen protector after just over a week using it. Something else must be at play with your situation
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It never lays face down it's always in my pocket or face up sitting somewhere. My older phones were even subjected to much harsher environments do to previous occupation. This thing should not even have minor scratches with how I treat it but instead it's covered top to bottom in scratches many of them very deep and noticable. My old phone would sit on a welding bench half the day with grinding Sparks flown at it regularly and it's in much better condition than the 6t that's been babied since opening.
Well I'm sorry to hear that I can only assume that you got a bunk unit because that's insane and I would be pissed!
using mine without screen protector since launch, not a single scratch
bladestonez said:
Is it just me or is the screen on this phone really easily scratched. I got my op6t shortly after launch before there were any screen protectors that worked on the market and have been using it without one and the screen is extremely scratched. Far worse than many older phones I've also used without a protector. Definitely seems like this "gorilla glass" isn't what it used to be.
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I'm having the same issue. I've never used a screen protector since I got my Nexus 1 way back in the day. I've never had an issue with screens scratching until now. I finally broke down and bought a tempered glass screen protector. Anyone know if OP or T-Mobile will warranty this? (bought from T-Mobile)
I also had this phone like three days ago... I took the screen protector off just the day after and the scratches the screen is recieving is really serious... Have been wondering where the scratches is coming from. I hardly put in my pocket and the screen is always up. Just can't understand. I regret taking the protector of tho. From the reviews I thought it was hard to scratch, guess I'm wrong.
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I also had this phone like three days ago... I took the screen protector off just the day after and the scratches the screen is recieving is really serious... Have been wondering where the scratches is coming from. I hardly put in my pocket and the screen is always up. Just can't understand. I regret taking the protector of tho. From the reviews I thought it was hard to scratch, guess I'm wrong.
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Typically the more resistant to cracking and breakage the glass seems to get the more it scratches.. But that could just be me