Update to Touchless Control, March 5th(and March 12th) - Moto X General

I just received an update to Touchless Control.
The version is now 4.3.10.1
What's New
- Enhanced end-of-speech detection for improved accuracy and faster responses
- New ""What's Up"" / ""Read Notifications"" voice command that reads out new notifications so you never miss a thing
- ""What's Up"" / ""Read Notifications"" fully launched for U.S. English, Spanish, and Italian and in beta for other languages / regions.
- Compatible only with Android 4.4 KitKat
- Bug fixes
I had to toggle Touchless Control off and then back on to have it work after the update.
Update - March 12th - new version 4.3.11.1 (seems to just be bug fixes)

Wow, I'm impressed!
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This update is so awesome

This is a nice update, but here is hoping it is just the beginning. Why not add all kinds of stuff to it, such as being able to ask it the status of wifi, then turn it on or off. Google technically supports the feature, it just needs to be enabled in the phone.
With enough engineering effort the possibilities of Touchless Control and Active Notifications are near endless and could be one heck of a Motorola exclusive feature.

Pretty damn cool but looks like it doesn't work well with 3rd party texting apps.
For example, I'm using Hello SMS and instead of saying the sender's name, it says, "You have received a notification from Hello" and then the message.
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It's a lot faster though. Wow!

Took advantage of the new version on the drive home today. I don't use driving assist mode so the read notifications feature really rocks. It had no problems reading out the subject of an email I received, it read both text messages and a gchat I received. All while sitting in the holster clipped to my hip.

Just downloaded the update, very cool
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After watching the movie Iron man a few days ago the potential of this is limitless! I would like my own personal Jarvis!
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What I like about the Moto X is that many of its key features (Active Display, Touchless Controls) are actually apps that can be updated independently of the ROM itself. And Google itself, with Maps, Hangouts, Chrome, Calendar, GMail, etc.... all of those are now just apps that have their own update schedule.
I know not being on the latest OS can be pain for other phones, but can we all agree that we're in a much better shape than the Android 2.3 days where apps were tied to the OS?

Any republic wireless user get the update? Still on 3.15.01.
No update available in play store.
Can the apk be side loaded?

DogzOfWar said:
What I like about the Moto X is that many of its key features (Active Display, Touchless Controls) are actually apps that can be updated independently of the ROM itself. And Google itself, with Maps, Hangouts, Chrome, Calendar, GMail, etc.... all of those are now just apps that have their own update schedule.
I know not being on the latest OS can be pain for other phones, but can we all agree that we're in a much better shape than the Android 2.3 days where apps were tied to the OS?
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i really appreciate the foresight to move those types of updates to the play store. with that said as an att customer it still bites that we have not been updated to 4.2.2.

Thanks for updated sharing.. I am going now updated...:fingers-crossed:

Anyone know whether this can be installed on the Moto X if you are running CyanogenMod (or does it require something in the Moto Rom framework?). I'm guessing no, and can test it myself later, but it's such a killer feature that I have no interest in CyanogenMod right now otherwise...
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lordloki77 said:
Anyone know whether this can be installed on the Moto X if you are running CyanogenMod (or does it require something in the Moto Rom framework?). I'm guessing no, and can test it myself later, but it's such a killer feature that I have no interest in CyanogenMod right now otherwise...
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Then flash back to stock. Moto x stock rooted with gravity box is all you need. You got all the great features of the moto x plus the perks of being rooted and being able to customize your device.
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lordloki77 said:
Anyone know whether this can be installed on the Moto X if you are running CyanogenMod (or does it require something in the Moto Rom framework?). I'm guessing no, and can test it myself later, but it's such a killer feature that I have no interest in CyanogenMod right now otherwise...
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None of these core components (touchless control, active notifications, etc.) can be installed on the CM or other 3rd party builds.

[email protected] said:
Then flash back to stock. Moto x stock rooted with gravity box is all you need. You got all the great features of the moto x plus the perks of being rooted and being able to customize your device.
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Yeah... because that's what I asked.... I'm not running cm, I'm running stock plus gravitybox. I asked a simple question - please improve your reading comprehension skills. And anyway, that is only sufficient until moto stops supporting the phone and cm is on android 5.0 and the x is stuck at 4.4.2....
binary visions said:
None of these core components (touchless control, active notifications, etc.) can be installed on the CM or other 3rd party builds.
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That's what I figured. Thanks for confirming. Here's to hoping that the work being done right now that's in proof of concept phase will work out!

There was another update today, version is now 4.3.11.1

Steve-x said:
There was another update today, version is now 4.3.11.1
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Yea, I just got it too. I don't see any thing new in the Play Store change-log though. Maybe just bug fixes?

The new Touchless Control is great. Has the latest update to Active Display been fixed to not break it?

The new update got me using it again. Bug fixes including something along the line of better hotword detection something of which was needed. Along with the read notifications. I'm falling in love with this phone all over again.
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Related

zoom wifi will get offical 4.1.1 soon enough

if you guys were waiting eagerly for the official rom from motorola for jb 4.1.1 ...its not far away:
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Android 4.1.1, Jelly Bean Software Update for the Motorola XOOM™ WIFI in the U.S.
Introduction - We are pleased to announce a new software update for the Motorola XOOM™ WIFI in the US. This Android 4.1.1 (JRO03H) software update includes numerous enhancements. Upgrade today for peak performance.
Who Can Use This Release - ALL Motorola XOOM U.S. WIFI users.
After downloading and installing the software release, you will notice:
Improved User Interface and Response - Android 4.1.1, Jelly Bean, is the fastest and smoothest version of Android yet. Moving between home screens and switching between apps is effortless, like turning pages in a book. Jelly Bean makes your Android device even more responsive by boosting your device’s CPU instantly when you touch the screen, and turns it down when you don’t need it to improve battery life.
Expandable, Actionable Notifications - Now you can take action directly from the notifications shade. And because the notifications are expandable, you can get an even deeper look into the things that matter most, like multiple emails or photos on Google+.
Widgets work like magic - With Jelly Bean it’s now even easier to personalize your home screen. As you place widgets on the screen, everything else automatically moves to make room. When they’re too big, widgets resize on their own. Interacting with your favorite apps and customizing your home screen has never been easier. Seamlessly view and share photos - Just swipe over from camera to filmstrip view to instantly view the photos you just took, and quickly swipe away the ones you don’t like. Now sharing--and bragging--are a breeze.
A Smarter Keyboard - Android’s dictionaries are now more accurate, more relevant. The language model in Jelly Bean adapts over time, and the keyboard even guesses what the next word will be before you’ve started typing it.
Improved Text-to-Speech Capability - With improved text-to-speech capabilities, voice typing on Android is even better; it works even when you don’t have a data connection.
Accessibility - With Jelly Bean, blind users can use 'Gesture Mode' to reliably navigate the UI using touch and swipe gestures in combination with speech output. Jelly Bean also adds support for accessibility plugins to enable external Braille input and output devices via USB and Bluetooth.
Voice Search - Android lets you search the web with your voice, and it’s convenient for getting quick answers on the fly. It speaks back to you and is powered by the Knowledge Graph, bringing you a precise answer if it knows it, and precisely ranked search results, so you can always find out more.
A new look for Search - Android has search at its core. With Jelly Bean, a redesigned experience uses the power of the Knowledge Graph to show you search results in a richer way. It’s easier to quickly get answers and explore and browse search results.
Nothing in there is unexpected really, but it sure is nice to see it all laid out. Now we'll go back to waiting for it to fully appear on some devices considering this release is just for those involved in the soak test, if you happen to see it land on your Xoom, we wouldn't mind you dropping by the forums and saying so.
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when did you get that ....are you part of the soak test group ?
I would suspect that they are in the soak test or know someone who is.
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jmgib said:
I would suspect that they are in the soak test or know someone who is.
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I was going to do the soak test but gave them the wrong serial number and they couldn't push the update. I was out of town for the weekend and by the time i got around to do it, they told me that they already pushed out the test. So hopefully we will get something (official or leak) very soon.
He probably got it from here http://www.androidcentral.com/case-you-needed-confirmation-it-jelly-bean-will-be-arriving-xoom-wifi
Is it safe to assume that the link would be something like
Code:
http://android.clients.google.com/packages/data/ota/motorola_tervigon/something.signed-tervigon-JRO03H-from-IMM76.something.zip
where the two somethings are obviously some combination of numbers and letters...
well got it from gsmarena.com
Great news
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im hoping the update does come soon. I thought it was going to be mid July but, i guess not.
dweezy108 said:
im hoping the update does come soon. I thought it was going to be mid July but, i guess not.
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Yea I hope so soon too. I could use a little BUTTER to help the Xoom slide around easier.
Lothaen said:
Is it safe to assume that the link would be something like
Code:
http://android.clients.google.com/packages/data/ota/motorola_tervigon/something.signed-tervigon-JRO03H-from-IMM76.something.zip
where the two somethings are obviously some combination of numbers and letters...
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Yep. That would be it.
Can one expect an update for the 3g version?
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US Verizon 3G? Yes. International 3G? Don't count on it.
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@jmgib... I thought my niece and I were the only 2 people who still have " Milestone X ".. LOL..
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New Hangouts V.2.1.311.

For all who can not wait.
http://androidspin.com/2014/06/18/google-hangouts-v2-1-311-update-rolling-apk-download/
Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
Anything new?
goshjosh said:
Anything new?
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"not a big deal really"
Yes, looks like only "fixes" under the hood
Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
But better be updated than outdated ... Installed
I never used it until about a month ago and I gotta say it's great now. I won't use anything else ever again.
Nexus 5 (4.4.3) running Carbon/ElementalX
Yes, it's getting really great in the last few month, for me the first choice.
Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
coming soon (RUMORS)
Repost of my google+ post "+BenRoberts83/posts/6vn3vFEdtAK"
I've been looking at the Hangouts APK. You can almost definitely expect to see some new features announced at I/O.
From what I can tell hangouts it getting a major update. This latest apk (2.1.311) has quite a bit of new code. Just from an cursory look, I think we can expect to see...
1. Google Voice integration.
No surprise here. Google Voice's integration was only on hold because of some security issue and they had to force developers to use a new API for accessing GVoice. The last day to transition off the old system was almost a month ago. And the amount of references to "Voicemail" in the code, shot up substantially.
2. Google Wallet integration
The amount of code with wallet mentioned in it seems to have shot up. I'm hoping this may actually be a feature to pay a person through hangouts. That would be pretty neat.
3. Remote support
It looks like google may be taking a page from Amazon's playbook and adding a remote control and support feature. I'm guessing this will likely be "helpouts" being rolled in to a remote user being able to show you how to do things on your device. This is purely speculation now.
4.The rest.
I'll leave these up to you to take what you will from them. Here is a list of new folders that seem to have been added. (along side folders like plus, maps, games, etc)
analytics
cast
drive
feedback
gcm (looks to just be some networking callbacks)
identity
playlog
tagmanager
wearable

[DISCUSSION] Android M for Bacon!

So as some of you may or may not know tomorrow is Google I/O. And like last year Google will be announcing Android M. It will also most likely release an "M Preview" for the Nexus 6 and 9. Do you guys think it would be possible to port the M Preview from the Nexus 6 to OnePlus One. Also this thread is for everything related to Android M for the OnePlus One
Do you remember situation with Lollipop? I think it will be in the same way
It may be possible, though unlikely. It's just not really worth it. Too many bugs and instability. This time around I'll be looking forward to ports for the nexus 5. As I think it won't get Dev preview
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Android M Developer Preview will be available today for Nexus phones. How long until someone makes port to Bacon, or how long until we see first ROM:? :fingers-crossed:
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ages-are-live-now-for-nexus-5-6-9-and-player/
Here they go!
Guess it would be pretty sweet to get a little blend of a ROM with the cherry pickins from the Android M preview.
I think we will get the android m port when Google releases the sources of it.
Liking the new Google photos app, seems pretty slick and great that they detached it from Google+. Seems like they've refined Lollipop a bit and added some decent features. I've seen theres an option for dark theme built in now, maybe not as big a deal to us as we have total theme/customisation control, but the Nexus 6 users are going to appreciate that with their amoled display. Interested to see the app permission/privacy thing in a bit more detail as well. They sorted the volume control (mostly) with an expandable panel although is silent mode still missing?
Android M comes with App Permissions which is slick! Doze mode sounds cool but it doesn't seem to work with Google Play Services
If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).
Is it me, or is M just a slight update to lollipop?.. Why M and not 5.2?.. Most of the "features" are apps, not the OS.. The OS only got a few changes and is still virtually Lollipop.. I'm happy for the update, but, I had higher hopes for a full "version" jump..
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fmc000 said:
If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).
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I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.
ddalex said:
I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.
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Google app is working fine and Google Camera crashes on Panorama. that's all I've found atm.
So just GMS must be avoided. Also, for me apps installed just fine w/o uninstalling/rebooting
You guys should explain if these apks replace system apps or Google apps from play store
nezlobnyj said:
Google Camera crashes on Panorama.
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That's expected as you need a system lib to use the feature and installing google camera as a user app does not provide that.
It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.
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It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.
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Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.
raafaell said:
Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.
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it is NOT possible at all!
we need to wait for opensourced code from google to start working.
Calm down a bit my friends. The image had just been released, so it is a matter of time for it to be available for bacon. Be patient, the time will come and enjoy android 5.1.1 first.. Chill
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i would like an android M version of Cyangonmod or maybe direct port of android M from google with a Cyangodemod recovery

Android M Discussion thread

A place for all of us Nexus 6 users to talk about Android M and the Developer Preview any bugs or anything we find. Download links are at the bottom of this post
Android M features new features like:
Android Pay
Snooze
App permissions
USB-Type C support
Native fingerprint scanning
More to come later!
Not working:
waze
amazon music
uber
mlb at bat
evernote
flesky
directv
Cinemark
Download M System Image: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ44Q-preview-c1d6506a.tgz
Download Page for other devices: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
@vomer made a thread for images and flashables! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3120851
M Screenshots
How to root Android M! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3123285
Version 2 is out! Find the system image here: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
Direct Version 2 link: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ79M-preview-e1024040.tgz
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?
I assume hardware
Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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longshot21771 said:
Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?
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Hardware such as Qualcomm's Sense ID
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Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
I've never flashed a developer preview before. Is it possible to flash with a nexus toolkit or does it need to be done in adb?
stevew84 said:
Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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Yeah I thought it looked like the UI wasn't going to be a major change.
italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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"Doze"? But yes I to am asking the same question, my N6 never was plagued with all the bugs many are having except the battery, but for sure can't wait to load M up and see!
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italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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I already get 95% deep sleep with screen off...I fail to see the point of Doze. I suppose if you're always getting FB and G+ pings all day it might help sleep more.
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Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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Rumor has it the preview is coming out today. Least that is what people on reddit are reporting
stevew84 said:
Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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It is really pretty underwhelming for a version uptick. It seriously looks like you could use M and never notice you didn't have Lollipop. Seems like Google is going all Mozilla in terms of versioning.
They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why did people expect M was going to have a big graphical overhaul or update?
inkdrink said:
They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why do people expect M is going to have a graphical overhaul or update?
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Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.
I suppose that's fair, but on their yearly update schedule I'm betting just about every update in the future will be name-branded, and I doubt they'll all be UI-heavy. Either way, I still see a lot I'm excited for. Android Pay will be nice as someone who uses but has grown tired of Wallet, and contextual Google Now in apps is pretty cool as well.
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Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.
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Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.
People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same
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Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.
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The most frustrating thing is there are allegedly "1000s" of bug fixes from reports. They claim they're in the M preview, and they claim said preview will be available later today....I know this is a revolutionary thought, so hold on to your hat, but why not push those fixes to Lollipop and publish 5.1.2 next week? Rather than force users to have to wait possibly 5-12 months for an update they may never get (depending on their device OEM)?
The alleged number of fixes in M are an order of magnitude greater than the number of fixes in all the Lollipop updates for the Nexus 6, combined, thus far. And Lollipop is still pretty buggy, especially if you're not on a Nexus.
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People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same
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IIRC KK brought a bunch of notification tray improvements in ICS and JB. But that was ages ago, and I'm going off memory. Also KK ran a ton better than ICS or JB.
http://developer.android.com/preview/index.html
Live.
I find android L right now to be beautiful, and I personally don't want them to change a thing.
is it possible to flash this onto a secondary rom with multirom?

CopperheadOS

Has anyone else seen this yet? It's a supposed secure OS for nexus devices. https://copperhead.co/android/downloads If anyone checks it out, let us know how it goes.
Wow I never seen this.:laugh:
Looks interesting, Im gonna check it further. Probably a AOSP based with some patches, fdroid, and some anti-gapps apps?
Most definitely curious as to how this runs....they want you to relock the bootloader though...????????????
Runs really nice. But there is no open source support for my android wear watch which I need.
No thank you. I would rather trust google and NSA, instead of some no name offshore company.
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No thank you. I would rather trust google and NSA, instead of some no name offshore company.
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Toronto is off-shore?
Lol
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Locking the bootloader is good for your security.
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toronto is offshore? do you think they live in igloos still aswell?
also this is just aosp with google signatures,
i tested for fun, boot animation is crap,
some lag going n settings,
no playstore access, no gapps at all from what i saw,
secure unsure, i dont know enough to rip apart the source and see if any holes from the company,
I was intrigued by Copperhead since reading about the Unaphone, another Google free operating system. Unlike Unaphone, whom's developers were providing it only for their proprietary hardware, when I saw CopperheadOS I knew I was going to try it for sure!
Previously running Resurrection, my phone already had an unlocked bootloader. Even if it hadn't, flashing Copperhead using the developer's instructions is very easy.
First impressions were good. The phone was noticeably more responsive, lacking google services normally running, and stable since the OS itself is based on stock which was considerably more stable than other roms I've tried. All the features you would expect from 6.0.1 are present and working. What is not preset however is the Google Play store or services! I didn't appreciate the implications of not having google services before actually trying to use a phone without them. Although it is possible to sideload gapps, one would rather negate the point of this ROM.
Poking around the settings the first thing I noticed were granular security settings with detailed descriptions. There is also a nice security versus performance slider for the layman. The idea of preventing exploits using the techniques in this rom is my main reason for using it.
After an evening of use, the vast majority of closed-source-paid apps I was able to replace with open-source alternatives. There are a few exceptions I am still trying to figure out, but overall, I think if you are willing to cut the google-cloud-services cord its worth a try. If you really must, most apk's for closed apps can be found and installed but these decisions should probably be weighed carefully.
I never realized my reliance on google and closed apps until I tried to use an OS that doesn't rely on them. Trying this rom is a good exercise in living off the google grid; or at the least driving the use of google services back into the browser.
At the end of the day this rom has its place for the privacy and security minded enthusiast, but for the average user, sticking to something with google services is probably more realistic.
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Toronto is off-shore?
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toronto is offshore? do you think they live in igloos still aswell?
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The 'offshore' part was simply a figure of speech.
What I mean is that if you don't trust google with your data, you have more reason not to trust an unknown company.
At least google is transparent about my data, and gives me control of how much I want to share with them. https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity
Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
Copperhead is trusted. They will be working with Guardian Project and Fdroid to build a complete system. Read this post for more info: https://copperhead.co/blog/2016/03/29/crowdfunding-partnership-announced
mg.degroot said:
Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
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Please let us know if you're able to root, install xposed and still relock the bootloader.
mg.degroot said:
Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
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Could you please share some screenshots... Would like to try the OS... But would like to see how it is ...
Also do you see the sRGB mode in developer options... Without it the colors on the Nexus 6P are inaccurate at best...
Stop asking about features or customisation options, this rom has none. Its about security, not features
kbBT4A5e said:
I was intrigued by Copperhead since reading about ...
After an evening of use, the vast majority of closed-source-paid apps I was able to replace with open-source alternatives. There are a few exceptions I am still trying to figure out, but overall, I think if you are willing to cut the google-cloud-services cord its worth a try. If you really must, most apk's for closed apps can be found and installed but these decisions should probably be weighed carefully.
I never realized my reliance on google and closed apps until I tried to use an OS that doesn't rely on them. Trying this rom is a good exercise in living off the google grid; or at the least driving the use of google services back into the browser.
At the end of the day this rom has its place for the privacy and security minded enthusiast, but for the average user, sticking to something with google services is probably more realistic.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. So we have decide if security is really more important than our investment and dependency in the Google ecosystem. I depend on G too much. My email is like my passport or online identification. I dont sideload unknown or unverified apps, dont visit links i dont know about, etc. Yes, i can still be remotely exploited, but i am not a gov official or some sort of millionaire with top secret info on my phone, as most of us. You saved me couple of hours of my day
A little update since I've been running this for about 2 weeks. I sideloaded gapps and the phone has been running fine, but found out today while trying to install the latest OTA update from copperhead it fails to install due to inconsistencies detected in the system partition since I installed gapps; from a security standpoint this feature is great. Unfortunately I can't function without gapps. In order to get the latest security updates, which is probably more important than the security features cooked into copperhead, I must: reflash the device with the latest full image, install twrp, sideload gapps, restore the copperhead recovery, then reinstall all my apps.
This being the case to get OTA updates, unless you can really commit to opensource with no gapps its not really worth the hassle.
Using it for an extended period I did notice the device was a bit slow even on medium security settings. Originally I had it maxed right out, but it wasn't usable. On medium it was a small price to pay for security but its hard to quantify the value.
I think its time to return to an AOSP rom for me.
I'm running it currently runs great but I can't figure out how to fix the dreaded APN issues :\ Tried almost every fix on XDA haven't gotten Any dev help either :\ other than the lack of data its a great ROM. Apparently I'm not alone judging by the other post on XDA about this. Apparently this is a known issue with no real fix. Sucks since its the only reason I got this phone
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