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So after getting a lot of request for making a guide to kernels as well, I finally decided that it will be helpful who are confused on which kernel to choose
So here Goes
Now before any of you guys proceed You must realize that You need to Unlock your Boot Loader before you can use a custom kernel
So read this Tutorial First
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254225
#1. LINUXDX: This Kernel was originally made for DX's Own GingerDX. It offers better Performance than the stock kernel, Overall it offers a great Performance boost to your phone. A lot better than the stock kernel
Pros: Better Fps in games, Improves Your Rom"s Performance, Faster Boot Compared to stock kernel
Cons: Wifi Tethering Does not Work, Is not fully compatible with other Roms, Not Updated as often as other kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267747
#2:AlifDroid: A decent kernel. Like all custom kernels boosts The overall performance Boost is good. Needs a lot more though
Pros: Decent Fps in games, Better Scrolling, Some Extra Free ram
Cons: Needs to be updated, Random Reboots, You can't OC As high as other Kernels,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411557
#3:Alfs: One of the best kernel for our x8. It offers great improvement over your stock kernel and is probably one of the most stable kernel Out there.
Pros: Excellent Fps Improve in Gaming, Smooth Scrolling, More free ram, Stable
Cons:Battery Drains quickly, You need to flash another file to enable Offline Charging and Sd card mount, Some people reported swap issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340861
#4: NAA kernel: This kernel was originally created for Nobodyatalls Minicm7 Rom, Its one of the fastest and smoothest kernel out there, It offers huge improvement over the stock kernel, However it is not fully compatible with all Roms
Pros: Excellent Fps Improvement in Games, Smooth Scrolling, Extra free Ram,
Cons: Is not compatible with other Rom's, Drains battery faster than stock kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350484
CUSTOM KERNELS REQUIRES AN UNLOCKED BOOT LOADER, WHICH CAN BRICK YOU PHONE IF NOT DON'T CORRECTLY SO PLEASE BE SURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
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This should be in general and not in dev section.
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i think so
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Nice... wrong sectio though...
Hit the THANKS button if I helped!!
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I really want to do this..still im scared as ****!
ponanovn said:
This should be in general and not in dev section.
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More people ask which is the best kernel in the development section than they do in General section,, that was the reason why i put this in development section, Regardless The Thread has been moved
Medo2 said:
I really want to do this..still im scared as ****!
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Just follow the steps carefully and you should be fine
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nice tutorial ^^
keep going
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i checked the links they should all work,, try again
Thx for the tutorial
I actually have the nAa 11 but I sometimes have bugs, so I'm thinking about changing it.
Alf Kernel looks great.
Hello!
Like the topic says I wonder which kernel you guys thinks is the best! Which one got best battery life and smoothest and yeah you know! And which ROM do you use your kernel with? Personally I think matr1x is the most stable kernel out there when overclocked. But Air kernel with pixel 1.60, nothing is smoother!
Share your opinions plz! have a nice day!
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bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
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bedalus made us a nice comparison of kernels, i suggest reading his thread and checking out the comparisons http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
but personally, i think that the trinity kernels are on the very top of the food chain
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Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
Stock kernel !...
because without stock kernel there is no custom kernel..
skizzled said:
Definitely check out that link. Some great information in it relating to kernels.
As for myself, nearly every single time I try a kernel other than matr1x, I get stability issues. Then again, I've only given a few ICS kernels a go thus far. I am a fan of Air Kernel at this current time. It has been stable and fast for me.
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Same here Skizzled... big fan of Matr1x, but am driving the Air Kernel 3.5_65fps. It has performed very well and has good battery life for me.
Steviemac
I prefer the aniDroid hardened but... b4 & b5 are so unstable.
Now i'm using air.
And waiting for stable anidroid hardened.
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Using Air 3.6 with only voodoo right now.
Fast and stable for me till now :thumbup:
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My favorite ROM is AOKP and for my phone steve.garon's kernel seems to be the best option for stability, battery life, and smoothness.
Using simple kernel here.. Adds voodoo sound and BLN without compromising on stability cause everything else is stock. I find ics on the nexus smooth enough already
Using air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue now.
Fast and stable for me. rom: GummyNex 0.8.2. work perfect for me!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
In my opinion, Air Kernel is the best
Matr1x kernel is not working properly with my nexus S, because of undervolt setting.
Simply, it does not boot.
air_kernel_v3.6_65fps+blue with Pixel 1.6 Lite Touch. Best ICS based Kernel/ROM combination for Stability and battery life I have tested so far. But, I normally end up switching back to Oxygen Rom eventually. I know it is GB based but who can beat a fast ROM which can get you uptimes in excess of 1000 hours with no need to reboot.
I use matr1x-cfs 18.0 and so far, everything seems to be fast and stable. The only times my phone reboots is when I play around with the already undervolted kernel.
Other than that, it's fast and I don't see a point of switching to other kernels unless they provide a feature that's not in matr1x.
Matr1x is the best for me battery life and performance.
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Matr1x kernel for me is always at or near the top can't go wrong with Matr1x the only time I don't use the kernel is if I'm on Peter Alfonso Bugless Beast Rom other than that its Matrix!!
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Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
Nuhetri v3.0.1 and airkernel v3.6 with voodoo colors! working flawlessly!
I've been on many different Kernels but in the end I always go back to Matr1x. It worms the best for me
bertans said:
Take a look at Thalamus' kernel... for me it's the best balance between stock kernel and modded ones. Battery +75% (approx.) and no reboot at all!
You'll find it (current version: 3.0.23_r1) at this page.
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Thanks I just downloaded to give a spin I hope it work well on my Nexus S4G!
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buglessbeast+matrix best combo for battlife and performance
Hi,
I wanted to ask a small question...
I'm currently on the stock ROM after trying out AOKP and PA once.
I realized I wanted to keep it as stock as possible, so I'm going for a ROM with greatest performance and minimal customization....
I know we are not supposed to ask a ROM vs ROM feature comparison, I can do that myself. So here's my question...
Which ROM will give me greatest performance? It can be regardless if the features it has, just can you tell me of any ROM with greatest performance?
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Well, I have tried some ROMs and Kernels for Nexus 4 in the Google Nexus 4 -> Nexus 4 Original Android Development and can shed some light on your query.
If you want performance, it just does not depend on ROM, but looking at your profile and thanks meter, I believe you already know that. It can depend on ROM, Kernel, Over Clocking etc. etc. and we can go on that all day on what is better and what is not.
I have found Xylon quite fast which gave me good Antutu Scores of ~19000 without over-clocking or any other kernel. To be honest, I did not perform extensive tests to try the performance but I find visually and functionally no difference in using a Cyanogen Mod Nightly which gave me around ~14000 Antutu score and Xylon which gave me ~19000. I am more of a feature enthusiast rather than performance. To answer your query in one line,
Stock with Trinity Kernel => ~18000 (No overclocking)
CyanogenmMod => ~14000
Xylon => ~19000
Antutu Scores and Sorry I haven't saved the screen shots of Stock with Trinity Kernel & Xylon but here is a screenshot of my CyanogenMod. So if you have to just believe me of my Xylon scores
I have calculated performance based on Antutu benchmark and that may not be ideal for your performance needs.
Jamal Ahmed said:
Hi,
I wanted to ask a small question...
I'm currently on the stock ROM after trying out AOKP and PA once.
I realized I wanted to keep it as stock as possible, so I'm going for a ROM with greatest performance and minimal customization....
I know we are not supposed to ask a ROM vs ROM feature comparison, I can do that myself. So here's my question...
Which ROM will give me greatest performance? It can be regardless if the features it has, just can you tell me of any ROM with greatest performance?
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Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel
Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix
You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.
Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
Notorious544d said:
I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite
Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.
I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)
reaper000 said:
Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
galaxys said:
Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:
With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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Please could someone explain what all this means on the Nexus 7?
I think I understand that Grouper is the wifi version and Tilapia is the 3g version but what are Vanir and Linaro? I noticed some roms say 'vanir' and some say 'linaro', what would the differences be on these? Is one better than the other?
Thanks
Tilapia is the Nexus 7 3G Code name.
Linaro is an Architecture as far as I know. (Open-sourced) [ARMv7 based?]
Vanir I haven't got a clue !!
Well, aside from Norse mythology, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanir), Vanir appears to be the name of a ROM, that has subsequently been renamed (dropping the Vanir part)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195386
Rgrds,
Ged.
Cheers guys :good:
One more question, is the stock rom built using Linaro or is Linaro a more improved way of doing things than what google uses for its AOSP builds?
Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, just trying to understand the benefits of using it. x
eggshaped said:
Cheers guys :good:
One more question, is the stock rom built using Linaro or is Linaro a more improved way of doing things than what google uses for its AOSP builds?
Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, just trying to understand the benefits of using it. x
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You're asking perfectly good questions and that's what these forums are for! No linaro is not on stock ROMs, unless a developer rebuilds the OS with linaro optimizations. Linaro are android code modifications that speed things up and make it run more efficiently, vanir (which i am running now) is a type of rom that is very fast and is pretty good at using lower amounts of memory, its in a sense android on steroids. Hope this helped!
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Linaro - used in the context of Android dev ROMs - is at best a different compiler and related tools (assemblers, linkers, etc). See http://linaro.org
IMO there is little evidence that when it is used to compile the same sources (android kernel, applications, & libraries) that it produces anything but very minor differences in performance.
I'm willing to be corrected in my opinion based on actual data to the contrary, though.
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You're asking perfectly good questions and that's what these forums are for! No linaro is not on stock ROMs, unless a developer rebuilds the OS with linaro optimizations. Linaro are android code modifications that speed things up and make it run more efficiently, vanir (which i am running now) is a type of rom that is very fast and is pretty good at using lower amounts of memory, its in a sense android on steroids. Hope this helped!
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Thanks very much for all your help. It's starting to make sense to me now
Much appreciated.